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Title: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: deviousxen on October 13, 2008, 01:12:10 AM
Not that I particularly enjoy reminding myself it exists, but someone on another board brought this up and I realized its happened to me too.

Why is the head always moist now? I'm pretty sure I never had this problem as a male.

I'm pretty much atrophied now, but why would moisture appear now as a result of HRT? The crap?

Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Flan Princess on October 13, 2008, 01:46:28 AM
At best I can make a glorified guess at what is happening, but I think that it is due to sweat glands getting more active for some reason. This is probably a side effect of estrogen, but don't quote me on that. I checked my copy of The Merck Manual to no avail.

Sorry for not being more helpful :(
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Renate on October 13, 2008, 06:41:25 AM
I get the impression that the sweat glands are more active.
Also, with tucking there's not the airflow that existed previously.
Add tight-fitting nylon underwear and you have a sweaty situation.
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Just Mandy on October 13, 2008, 12:01:00 PM
I've noticed the moisture as well but I'm tucking like I always have. It's got to
be related to HRT. The smell is very different now too.

I'll also add that the skin down there is SO soft now... anyone else notice that?

Amanda
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Nicky on October 13, 2008, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: deviousxen on October 13, 2008, 01:12:10 AM
Not that I particularly enjoy reminding myself it exists, but someone on another board brought this up and I realized its happened to me too.

Why is the head always moist now? I'm pretty sure I never had this problem as a male.

I'm pretty much atrophied now, but why would moisture appear now as a result of HRT? The crap?


Just sounds like the mucus membrane on the end of your guy-bit is producing more mucus. Maybe hormones have a stimulating effect on your mucus membranes, that would be my guess.

Nick
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: deviousxen on October 13, 2008, 02:50:00 PM
Quote from: Always Amanda on October 13, 2008, 12:01:00 PM
I've noticed the moisture as well but I'm tucking like I always have. It's got to
be related to HRT. The smell is very different now too.

I'll also add that the skin down there is SO soft now... anyone else notice that?

Amanda

Well its cause you're getting more fat, and less muscle, lawl.


And wow... I didn't know it even HAD mucous producers... D:

Although... That is a better sign for SRS I'd think though, right? Cause I've heard you have absolutely no lubrication there if its a vaginoplasty, but maybe if your body naturally produces a LITTLE It wouldn't be as bad?
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Hypatia on October 13, 2008, 02:55:58 PM
Babe you're just developing a pu$$¥ like the girl you are, is all. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: deviousxen on October 13, 2008, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on October 13, 2008, 02:55:58 PM
Babe you're just developing a pu$$¥ like the girl you are, is all. Congratulations.

Whut? I've obviously love that, but explain this if you're serious.


... I hope that you're at least 10 percent correct? ._.?

Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Flan Princess on October 13, 2008, 03:51:39 PM
Quote from: deviousxen on October 13, 2008, 02:50:00 PM
And wow... I didn't know it even HAD mucous producers... D:

Although... That is a better sign for SRS I'd think though, right? Cause I've heard you have absolutely no lubrication there if its a vaginoplasty, but maybe if your body naturally produces a LITTLE It wouldn't be as bad?
It doesn't, at least not on the outside. (the urethra is one however, to protect it from the acidity of urine)
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Nicky on October 13, 2008, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: Flan Princess on October 13, 2008, 03:51:39 PM
It doesn't, at least not on the outside. (the urethra is one however, to protect it from the acidity of urine)

I've read conflicting stuff on this. Some sites rekon there is a membrane on the underside of the foreskin. Some reports the head of the penis is a mucus membrane. Some say the 'glands'  are a mucus membrane. mmm mystery, I would delve further but I am at work and the pictures are not condusive of my contiunued employment.




Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Nero on October 13, 2008, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: deviousxen on October 13, 2008, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on October 13, 2008, 02:55:58 PM
Babe you're just developing a pu$$¥ like the girl you are, is all. Congratulations.

Whut? I've obviously love that, but explain this if you're serious.


... I hope that you're at least 10 percent correct? ._.?



Well, it's trying to act like one anyway. Lubricating itself and such.
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: deviousxen on October 13, 2008, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: Nero on October 13, 2008, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: deviousxen on October 13, 2008, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on October 13, 2008, 02:55:58 PM
Babe you're just developing a pu$$¥ like the girl you are, is all. Congratulations.

Whut? I've obviously love that, but explain this if you're serious.


... I hope that you're at least 10 percent correct? ._.?



Well, it's trying to act like one anyway. Lubricating itself and such.

I guess I can't trade with the FtMs anymore... D:

Sorry...
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Hypatia on October 13, 2008, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: Nero on October 13, 2008, 05:59:34 PMWell, it's trying to act like one anyway. Lubricating itself and such.
That's what I meant. The moisture characteristic of a vulva rather than a... what did you call it... "penor"
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: deviousxen on October 14, 2008, 12:54:09 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on October 13, 2008, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: Nero on October 13, 2008, 05:59:34 PMWell, it's trying to act like one anyway. Lubricating itself and such.
That's what I meant. The moisture characteristic of a vulva rather than a... what did you call it... "penor"
O_O

I'm having one of those, "Oh wow this is really happening," moments.


My face rounded out even MORE and and !!!! *blows up

... Its actually working. NOTHING works ever in my life. This is making me skeptical. D:
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Wing Walker on October 14, 2008, 01:48:18 AM
Hi, Xen,

Ahhhh, the wonders of Grandmother Estrogen!

Presuming that you were born with a prostate gland, estrogen has begun to change the function and product of the prostate gland from producing a highly alkaline substance required for sperm to survive the acid environment of the male *genitourinary* tract.  Instead of being at-work for having sex only, the prostate gland now provides lubrication for the neovagina and neoclitoris, the medical terms I use for what is to be post-op in M to F.

The body changes from the smell of testosterone to the fragrance of estrogen.  Hypatia is, IMHO, quite right.

Also note that in the female anatomy there are separate genital and urinary tracts while in the male there is one passage for both purposes, thus the need for the alkaline substance.

Hope this helps.

Wing Walker
Lovin' the moisture

Posted on: October 13, 2008, 11:47:09 pm
Quote from: deviousxen on October 14, 2008, 12:54:09 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on October 13, 2008, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: Nero on October 13, 2008, 05:59:34 PMWell, it's trying to act like one anyway. Lubricating itself and such.
That's what I meant. The moisture characteristic of a vulva rather than a... what did you call it... "penor"
O_O

I'm having one of those, "Oh wow this is really happening," moments.


My face rounded out even MORE and and !!!! *blows up

Your face should become rounder and softer.  Good show!

Wing Walker

... Its actually working. NOTHING works ever in my life. This is making me skeptical. D:
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: cindybc on October 14, 2008, 01:51:27 AM
Hi Deviousxen, well my partner had the more technical terms to explain it so I let her post that part. But I wanted you to know that I have certainly observed some noticeable difference in your facial appearance from previous photos. And you certainly have some pretty healthy thick hair growth.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: deviousxen on October 14, 2008, 03:57:23 AM
Wow. I was wondering if my male things were just leaking or something, but that makes sense it would actually serve a purpose! :D

Thanks for telling me, cause thats cool. That makes me feel less fake.


And yeah this is how my face has changed over the months. Its read left to right in a U pattern and the last one is from tonight. :3

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi15.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa370%2Fn3rv3c4ndy%2FPicture2.png&hash=1e437ee0352adc76a50b1a0d40ac3d531d72c241)



Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: cindybc on October 14, 2008, 04:13:14 AM
I must say you are a good looking kid no mater how you dice it. The second from the from the bottom right corner is a realy good looking photo of you. It appears different then the others, maybe because it was taken in a different tone of light. I love the last one as well. For certain I can see the change. How long have you been on HRT now? I am sure that once fully developed you will be a gorgeous looking girl.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Jordan on October 14, 2008, 04:17:33 AM
Quote from: deviousxen on October 14, 2008, 03:57:23 AM
Wow. I was wondering if my male things were just leaking or something, but that makes sense it would actually serve a purpose! :D

Thanks for telling me, cause thats cool. That makes me feel less fake.


And yeah this is how my face has changed over the months. Its read left to right in a U pattern and the last one is from tonight. :3

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi15.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa370%2Fn3rv3c4ndy%2FPicture2.png&hash=1e437ee0352adc76a50b1a0d40ac3d531d72c241)

That is truly amazing the change, how long on HRT?




Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: deviousxen on October 14, 2008, 04:44:27 AM
I've been on HRT since February, but on a full dose in like April I'd say?

Would you say those are good results for that time? I hope is all :\

It really is surreal and amazing mostly even in the first person.

I dosed up slowly. I am now prescribed, which is good... Cause it costs less money to get my brains parts off of Walmart than the internet....

Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Ms Bev on October 14, 2008, 09:58:25 AM
It happens to most of us, hon.  Welcome to womanhood.  I think it's caused by the 'cowper's gland, or 'bulbourethral gland.

   "The bulbourethral glands are compound tubuloalveolar glands, each approximately the size of a pea. They are composed of several lobules held together by a fibrous covering. Each lobule consists of a number of acini, lined by columnar epithelial cells, opening into a duct which joins with the ducts of other lobules to form a single excretory duct. This duct is approximately 2.5 cm long and opens into the urethra at the base of the penis. The glands gradually diminish in size with advancing age.

During sexual arousal each gland produces a clear, viscous secretion known as pre-ejaculate. This fluid helps to lubricate the urethra for spermatozoa to pass through, it neutralizes traces of acidic urine in urethra[2], and helps flush out any residual urine or foreign matter."

                                                                    ************


   "The Bartholin's glands (also called Bartholin glands or greater vestibular glands) are two glands located slightly below and to the left and right of the opening of the vagina in women. They secrete mucus to provide vaginal lubrication.  Bartholin's glands secrete relatively minute amounts (one or two drops) of fluid just before a woman orgasms.  The minute droplets of fluid were once believed as important for lubricating the vagina, but research from Masters and Johnson demonstrated that vaginal lubrication comes from deeper within the vagina.  The fluid may slightly moisten the labial opening of the vagina, serving to make contact with this sensitive area more comfortable for the woman.

Bartholin's glands are homologous to Cowper's glands in males. However, while Bartholin's glands are located in the superficial perineal pouch, Cowper's glands are located in the deep perineal pouch."
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Elwood on October 14, 2008, 10:56:12 AM
Coming from a guy who wants glans, that sounds pretty hawt.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Why is this happening with my Penor...
Post by: Hypatia on October 14, 2008, 01:40:17 PM
There you go. Miss Bev totally nailed it. The key concept here is "homologous (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/homologous)."