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Ohio clinches it. Remember where you were tonight. You just saw history.

Yes. We. Can!

It aint over till the fat lady sings....

























where is palin anyway?

Yes we could!! :D \o/

Well, GoogleNews is saying Obama:324, McCain:124 ... the fat lady sings! And she causes a landslide!

~Simone.

Palin is with McCant while he concedes in Arizona.

He is actually being gracious.  I wish he could have ran like that.

Wow...what a landslide!

Now let's see where Prop 8 goes. Early reports have Prop 8 winning so far, but only 6% are reporting so far. Here's to another landslide of rejection for Prop 8.

333 to 156!!!!!!!

OBAMA!!!

it,s over  and OBAMA!!!  is our president !!! ;D :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_drunk: :icon_drunk:

change has finaly and trule came !!! 8)

Now let's try not to f**k this up!  Should be able to make some sweeping changes...

Lia

Well the Dems have the Senate, the House, and the White House.  And as visionary and the rest that Obama is, when our government runs right, I I'm hoping it might, the most powerful person is Nancy, the Speaker of the House who has all the money.

Quote from: mtfbuckeye on November 04, 2008, 09:33:24 PM
actually, yeah. It is over. :)

This is the joke flying over your head -->  *joke*

                                        this is you --> \o/

Quote from: lady amarant on November 04, 2008, 10:19:35 PM
Well, GoogleNews is saying Obama:324, McCain:124 ... the fat lady sings! And she causes a landslide!

~Simone.

I'm curious, how does on the average a 60/40 split a difference of only 20% consititue a landslide? It was more like strategic manuvering, Obama pretty much ignored states with minimal electoal vote and consentrated is efforts on the others, yes look at Ohio, what was the name of the nonprofit nonpartison group?? OH ya Acorn for Obama that's it.

My thing is this he got up and made all kinds of pretty speaches and promises, dangled the carrot if you will, and could somebody please tell me the last president that kept his campain promises and the last one to effect any real change.....

Electoral College "landslides" seldom are. About 6% points cannot be seen statistically as a landslide, no. But the ability of around 53% of a popular vote to support a man whose ethnic percentage is about 12% of the population certainly seems to me to speak volumes about how much change had already occurred.

The trope oft repeated and hoped for by disgruntled and dismissive people like Rush Limbaugh certainly didn't appear everywhere. People evidently didn't lie about who they would vote for to screw the pollsters and far more voted in what they perceived their best interest in spite of ethnic-difference. They did NOT walk into a booth and pull a lever or push a button to do privately what they denied they would do publically.

In that regard this is a historic landslide, if not a statistical one.

Nichole

Quote from: Nichole on November 05, 2008, 11:05:18 AM
In that regard this is a historic landslide, if not a statistical one.

Nichole

Yes I can agree with you there, I,ll give you that one.

Hey when was the last landside in the news? OH China I remember now......

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on November 05, 2008, 10:48:20 AM
could somebody please tell me the last president that kept his campain promises and the last one to effect any real change.....

Hell, there is always a first time. We live in hope that this will be it. ;)

~Simone.

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on November 05, 2008, 10:48:20 AM

Quote from: lady amarant on November 04, 2008, 10:19:35 PM
Well, GoogleNews is saying Obama:324, McCain:124 ... the fat lady sings! And she causes a landslide!

~Simone.

I'm curious, how does on the average a 60/40 split a difference of only 20% consititue a landslide? It was more like strategic manuvering, Obama pretty much ignored states with minimal electoal vote and consentrated is efforts on the others, yes look at Ohio, what was the name of the nonprofit nonpartison group?? OH ya Acorn for Obama that's it.

My thing is this he got up and made all kinds of pretty speaches and promises, dangled the carrot if you will, and could somebody please tell me the last president that kept his campain promises and the last one to effect any real change.....

It's not so much about promises, but about trust and honesty.  No one could do everything they want in that position. The important thing is to make an earnest effort and show some respect for people.

Quote from: lady amarant on November 05, 2008, 11:40:17 AM

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on November 05, 2008, 10:48:20 AM
could somebody please tell me the last president that kept his campain promises and the last one to effect any real change.....

Hell, there is always a first time. We live in hope that this will be it. ;)

~Simone.

ROFLMAO I like you, your funny

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on November 05, 2008, 10:48:20 AM

Quote from: lady amarant on November 04, 2008, 10:19:35 PM
Well, GoogleNews is saying Obama:324, McCain:124 ... the fat lady sings! And she causes a landslide!

~Simone.

I'm curious, how does on the average a 60/40 split a difference of only 20% consititue a landslide? It was more like strategic manuvering, Obama pretty much ignored states with minimal electoal vote and consentrated is efforts on the others, yes look at Ohio, what was the name of the nonprofit nonpartison group?? OH ya Acorn for Obama that's it.

Well... the Acorn deal has been explained and re-explained so many times it's not funny. It's not VOTES but REGISTRATIONS that Acorn presented without proper scrutiny. The people they were contracting to register people were getting paid by registration so they turned in a lot of invalid registrations. Indeed sloppiness on Acorn's part and lack of quality control, but hardly the hoopla tent the Republican party set up. Even if Acorn had registered a billion fake voters, it doesn't mean anything if the person doesn't come with proper ID and votes on election day.

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My thing is this he got up and made all kinds of pretty speaches and promises, dangled the carrot if you will, and could somebody please tell me the last president that kept his campain promises and the last one to effect any real change.....

That argument reminds me of this: http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/hillary_clinton_resumes (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/hillary_clinton_resumes)

Insofar I haven't seen or heard anything that would lead me to disbelieve he will forgo his intentions of changing things for the better.

The problem I have is simple, beside having been born in the wrong body LOL :) yesterday when my wife and I went to vote we walked in gave our names, they were on the list as registered, we were handed a card and we voted. No ID check, so had I a list of all the BS name that registered my wife and I could have walked into 4 other districts gave the BS name handed a card and voted under the BS name, now do the math on a state wide, nation wide scale, my little example creates an 5 to 1 ration, how close was each state 60/40. Things that make you go Hmmmmm..... Thanks Acorn

I'm not at all sure that I see the logic in the argument, nor the thanks given to ACORN. ACORN actually points out the BS-names and reports them to the election commissions.

You might well find it much harder to do what you suggest than you believe it to be. Or have I completely misunderstood what you said?

Nichole

Quoteit doesn't mean anything if the person doesn't come with proper ID and votes on election day

No ID is needed. If your name is on the voting register you get to vote. However the register is cross checked with public safety. It is not Acorn to blame, it is the lazy workers that are not ethical or moral. That is a part of the voting public. Since when is it OK to be dishonest even for a paycheck? My area  has 137% in voters over the population. They only cross reference new voters and old voters never die or move.

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on November 05, 2008, 01:19:34 PM
The problem I have is simple, beside having been born in the wrong body LOL :) yesterday when my wife and I went to vote we walked in gave our names, they were on the list as registered, we were handed a card and we voted. No ID check, so had I a list of all the BS name that registered my wife and I could have walked into 4 other districts gave the BS name handed a card and voted under the BS name, now do the math on a state wide, nation wide scale, my little example creates an 5 to 1 ration, how close was each state 60/40. Things that make you go Hmmmmm..... Thanks Acorn

Hehehe... right, because the fact that Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse and Dick Tracy had registration cards submitted really speaks of a well oiled deception machine, doesn't it?


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Quote from: lisagurl on November 05, 2008, 02:22:52 PM

Quoteit doesn't mean anything if the person doesn't come with proper ID and votes on election day

No ID is needed. If your name is on the voting register you get to vote. However the register is cross checked with public safety. It is not Acorn to blame, it is the lazy workers that are not ethical or moral. That is a part of the voting public. Since when is it OK to be dishonest even for a paycheck? My area  has 137% in voters over the population. They only cross reference new voters and old voters never die or move.

As I hear, "Federal law requires anybody who does not register to vote in person at the county office to show an ID when they go to vote the first time."

Voting problems are as American as voting.  I'm sure there was fraud.  Always is.  But the numbers are so huge, and so much across the USA, that the real outcome is pretty certain.

I'm sure there was fraud.

But not in Chicago this time around!! :)

Nikki

No need.  It ain't like '60.

Quote from: tekla on November 05, 2008, 03:06:36 PM
No need.  It ain't like '60.

nope it ant hte 60,s tekla  8)

Quote from: Nichole on November 05, 2008, 02:36:48 PM
I'm sure there was fraud.

But not in Chicago this time around!! :)

Nikki

Nor in OH like '04 and FL like in '00  ;D

Z

My current pet-peeve: I don't CARE that he's black. I voted for him because of his American spirit. I think he is a historical candidate because he changed 4 red states to blue and managed to do so honestly without and dirty campaign tactics. He is NOT historical JUST for being black... he is more than a two-dimensional man painted dark. He is a three-dimensional human being capable of leading this country...

No argument there, Dan.

Nikki