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Title: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: NicholeW. on November 07, 2008, 07:49:07 AM
Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
By AlterNet Staff, AlterNet. Posted November 7, 2008.

With the campaign over, terrifying new information has started to emerge about Sarah Palin.

http://www.alternet.org/election08/106197/ (http://www.alternet.org/election08/106197/)

As Sarah Palin positions herself for what will undoubtedly be a long career in the national spotlight -- whether as the new messiah of social conservatives or a permanent fixture on Fox News -- damning new information about the former VP candidate is beginning to emerge.

Much of it comes from disgruntled former McCain staffers, who since Election Day have engaged in nonstop grousing and finger-pointing, most of it at Palin. Other shocking news about the VP candidate is being released by reporters who were embedded with the McCain campaign.


Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 07, 2008, 08:40:39 AM
that wasn't so frightening.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: tekla on November 07, 2008, 08:41:30 AM
It is if you planning on running her in 2012 or whatever.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 07, 2008, 08:46:26 AM

Yeah but most of it is common knowledge. The stuff that is new is no surprise either.

If Palin doesn't run, it will be another special ed person who does.  As long as the republicans can weed her out, it doesn't matter. She'll be like rudy or huckabee.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: tekla on November 07, 2008, 09:07:33 AM
Speaking of old Huckabee, he's due to talk in Iowa in like 14 days.  Getting ready early this time.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: NicholeW. on November 07, 2008, 09:42:36 AM
I agree with your sentiments, Rebis. I read it and didn't find the frightening parts, except her singular lack of ability & knowledge would be kinda frightening in a chief exec. We've experienced 8 years of that already and it didn't work very well.

Am I noticing a trend with Repugnant political candidates: they have less and less substance and good sense with the possible exception of Bush, Sr. as we've elected or seen run more and more of that since, Richard Nixon, of all people?

The more ignorant you are the better you connect with the electorate?

Nichole
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: tekla on November 07, 2008, 09:54:09 AM
Well, this is the US, the place that bought Pet Rocks and all.  So there is a big swath of stupid.

What's funny, at least to me and I'm cracking up about it, is that the Rthugs are doing this to themselves.  Its going to be a Battle Royal with blood up to the ankles as the moderates and extreme right factions go against each other for control.  Its going to be Country Clubs vs. Sam's Club.  I'm counting on the extreme faction to win, most of the Rs that lost were moderate.  What moderates they have left will begin to side with the Ds I think too, as they just saw their red state turn blue.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: NicholeW. on November 07, 2008, 09:58:11 AM
I'm wondering if Lieberman won't decide to wander back left a bit. Somehow I just can't see him become great friends with the Sam's Club Repugs. And the Sammers have pretty much run out the moderates.

It's sorta reminiscent of what the Southern Baptist convention did religiously in the 70s and 80s, suddenly there were no more liberal voices, they'd all been excommunicated or whatever Baptists do.

Nichole
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: tekla on November 07, 2008, 09:59:33 AM
I think Joe was told to buzz off by Reed yesterday. 
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: NicholeW. on November 07, 2008, 10:14:05 AM
Harry Reid or Ralph Reed? Or is there another i'm not thinking of at the moment?

Nikki
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: tekla on November 07, 2008, 10:55:31 AM
Harry, I'm the one telling Ralph to buzz off.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 07, 2008, 11:10:49 AM

I can't believe that I actually have gained respect for Nixon. If only he wasn't a mad bomber or overly tolerant of his law breaking employees.

Bush and Palin and cheney are just that bad.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: tekla on November 07, 2008, 11:35:53 AM
Yeah, somewhere up in heaven, or hell, Warren G. Harding, Nixon and Grant are all dancing knowing they are not going to be the 'worst president ever' anymore.  It ain't even going to be a contest.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: Cyndigurl45 on November 07, 2008, 12:04:03 PM
 ::) OH YA I see we dodged a major bullet there  ::)

I guess now all we can do now is sit back and see what kinda injuries were gonna suffer from the bullet we did take.....
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: Melissa on November 07, 2008, 12:22:09 PM
That's actually not that surprising to me.  I thought McCain was actually a decent guy, but it was Palin that scared me (an I kept saying that to people).  Being that McCain would have been the oldest first term president elect had he won, there was a fairly high chance he would have passed away in office.  Prior to him, Ronald Reagan (the 40th president) was the oldest, but before him the previous oldest was William Henry Harrison (the 9th president) who passed away only 1 month after being in office!  I'm just glad she's showing her true colors now before trying to run for office again.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: daisybelle on November 07, 2008, 12:24:37 PM
If you are going to stir the pot, stir it fairly and hold your grand D's to the same standards. 

You seem to stick your fingers in your ears when anything controversial is said about a D.

To be sure Palin stepped into the national limelight because she was asked.   That is very brave for anyone to do, let alone a mother of multiple children.  And I completely understand her "Take no ____ !!!" attitude.   Something I do not think we have seen in a president since LBJ.   Perhaps arguably something our presidency needs.

Why though after she has been snuffed out, do you want to see her done in?   And badmouthing Rudy, and Hukabee too.  Come on now, as someone stated on another thread "We won - you lost".   It is time for us all to work together, and this attitude is more divisional.  Seems you enjoy rubbing salt in the wound.   Rise above that mentality.

Diversity is what makes this country great.   Better to have differences and be able to discuss on a board like this than be a drone in a hive defining what your life will be.

Daisy



Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: tekla on November 07, 2008, 01:34:40 PM
I never said anything bad about the Huck, except that he about to start his campaign in a couple of weeks.  And Rudy, yeesh, you don't need the dems to bury him, his party did that to him. 

The trouble with Palin is that entire TNS pose, is just that, a pose.  She calls Obama a socialist, when her state is the biggest socialist deal running in the U.S.  I went back and when she got the nod I wrote "She's going to be a gift that keeps on giving" and in my wildest dreams I could not believe how true that would be.  I don't think she is brave, she is a power-hungry, stagehog who took off like rouge elephant with the bit between the teeth. 

Don't 'cha dare blame me that she came off, as she was, a beauty queen on a spending spree.  I sure wasn't the person who got her to do a 'whoop whoop' dance on SNL while Tina Fey was acting out shooting a moose.  I didn't coach her to answer questions like that.

All I've said about Obama is that he is hopefully going to be less bad.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 07, 2008, 04:17:34 PM
Quote from: daisybelle on November 07, 2008, 12:24:37 PM
If you are going to stir the pot, stir it fairly and hold your grand D's to the same standards. 

You seem to stick your fingers in your ears when anything controversial is said about a D.

To be sure Palin stepped into the national limelight because she was asked.   That is very brave for anyone to do, let alone a mother of multiple children.  And I completely understand her "Take no ____ !!!" attitude.   Something I do not think we have seen in a president since LBJ.   Perhaps arguably something our presidency needs.

Why though after she has been snuffed out, do you want to see her done in?   And badmouthing Rudy, and Hukabee too.  Come on now, as someone stated on another thread "We won - you lost".   It is time for us all to work together, and this attitude is more divisional.  Seems you enjoy rubbing salt in the wound.   Rise above that mentality.

Diversity is what makes this country great.   Better to have differences and be able to discuss on a board like this than be a drone in a hive defining what your life will be.

Daisy
I'm an independent. I don't care what party is running things as long as they're not psychotic.

I agree with Tekla's take on Palin.  She did not have to say yes!  If she understood her limitations or faults (real or imagined) she would have said no thank you.

I'm badmouthing Rudy, Huck, and Sarah because they really should not be running a country.  I like Huckabee as a person, but he doesn't quite separate church and state. I don't have a problem with Sarah, however, she didn't know Africa was a continent. She thinks humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time. Rudy just doesn't have the temperament and he seems to have a lot of serious problems such as putting the command center in one of the towers which anyone would know might be a target for a terrorist.

I am going to ask you, why would you accept unqualified people to do such an important job?

Sarah and Huck are not into true education because they want children to learn genesis as a historical fact. They also might hold up some of the sciences because of their beliefs.  That is my opinion and it's a good one.  Can you explain to me why you believe they would be really good at being president?

I don't know what Leiberman is, but I didn't vote for Gore because he was on the ticket. So, you see, both parties stink, however, in my opinion, one party is providing a better quality of candidate at this time.

I really need to know why anyone would support palin/huckabee/rudy

and, what is wrong in trying to point out the failings in a couple of people who may yet again appear on the national scene?  We should be thinking of the future.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: daisybelle on November 07, 2008, 06:02:55 PM
Hey my point is that if you are going to start taking potshots.... they should be spread equally.

Daisy
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: Aurelius on November 07, 2008, 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: daisybelle on November 07, 2008, 06:02:55 PM
Hey my point is that if you are going to start taking potshots.... they should be spread equally.

Daisy

Right on Daisy!

And I didn't vote for the Gore ticket because of....Gore.

Alright, let me climb back into my gopher hole again.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 07, 2008, 06:31:48 PM
except for leiberman, I'm not familiar with any totally inept or inherently evil democrats. I'm waiting a year or two so I can spot them.  They haven't really been in the limelight.

wait, how about this - Bill Clinton is a filthy amoral jerk despite his being kind of a good administrator.  I blame him partially for the economic crisis. He should have kicked Greenspan out when his time was up.  If you leave someone in a position long enough, they lose their edge and flexibility.

Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: daisybelle on November 07, 2008, 06:52:41 PM
Quote from: Aurelius on November 07, 2008, 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: daisybelle on November 07, 2008, 06:02:55 PM
Hey my point is that if you are going to start taking potshots.... they should be spread equally.

Daisy

Right on Daisy!

And I didn't vote for the Gore ticket because of....Gore.

Alright, let me climb back into my gopher hole again.

Hey someone who agrees with me.... have any room in the gopher hole??

Daisy
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: Aurelius on November 07, 2008, 06:58:22 PM
When it comes to talking politics around here, you NEED a gopher hole. Come on in, more than enough room, no one else ever comes in here  :icon_help:
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 07, 2008, 09:38:55 PM
Hi,

I'm going to start a harmless thread concerning reasons for some opinions.

No judgments. Just curiosity

It be here https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,48228.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,48228.0.html)
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: Annwyn on November 08, 2008, 12:22:21 AM
Strong editorial.

No hard facts.
Title: Re: Frightening New Information About Sarah Palin Emerges
Post by: tekla on November 11, 2008, 06:09:24 PM
Politics in America has always been a blood sport.