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Title: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: je on November 10, 2008, 08:21:33 AM
Post by: je on November 10, 2008, 08:21:33 AM
Alright, I have no clue, if this kind of topic has been posted recently or ever posted. If it has been, I'm sincerely sorry. If this topic is offensive, delete it. Although I don't identify as an ftm, I do enjoy reading through some of the issues that ftms have to deal with. I also enjoy listening to what a few ftms have to say on this board.
Anyway, now on to the topic. If you could wake up tommorow with a male reproductive system and not just any male reproductive system, but a fully functional version with nothing to remind you of what you had down there before, would you do it?
Essentially, you would be able to configure it in every way physically to what you want. You would be able to make the penis as big and thick as you want -- for example. Not only that, but you would be able to get great erections, orgasms, and ejaculations. If you wanted to conceive a child with it, you would be able to do that as well. It would be in every way identical to a biological males'.
Here's the catch. If you took this deal, it would produce no testosterone, although it would still function perfectly. Furthermore, any foreign testosterone taken in the future, would have absolutely no effect on your body. You would be totally immune to any testosterone outside of what your body produces naturally. Essentially, you wouldn't be able to get any of the changes that ftms get with enough time on hrt, but you would still be eligible for getting surgery. Finally, any changes you had from hrt before taking this deal, would be completely erased.
Would you take this deal?
Anyway, now on to the topic. If you could wake up tommorow with a male reproductive system and not just any male reproductive system, but a fully functional version with nothing to remind you of what you had down there before, would you do it?
Essentially, you would be able to configure it in every way physically to what you want. You would be able to make the penis as big and thick as you want -- for example. Not only that, but you would be able to get great erections, orgasms, and ejaculations. If you wanted to conceive a child with it, you would be able to do that as well. It would be in every way identical to a biological males'.
Here's the catch. If you took this deal, it would produce no testosterone, although it would still function perfectly. Furthermore, any foreign testosterone taken in the future, would have absolutely no effect on your body. You would be totally immune to any testosterone outside of what your body produces naturally. Essentially, you wouldn't be able to get any of the changes that ftms get with enough time on hrt, but you would still be eligible for getting surgery. Finally, any changes you had from hrt before taking this deal, would be completely erased.
Would you take this deal?
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Yochanan on November 10, 2008, 08:47:59 AM
Post by: Yochanan on November 10, 2008, 08:47:59 AM
Hell no, not me. I've been told I'm "one of those guys that need T to pass". The least of my problems is what's downstairs. I can live with weird genitals (I don't plan on having any kind of surgery down there). I guess my desire for a beard and a deeper voice and such just outweigh my desire for a penis.
Edit: Also, I think a lot of it is that I want to be treated male by society. Being a "girl with a penis" won't help with that, but T would.
Edit: Also, I think a lot of it is that I want to be treated male by society. Being a "girl with a penis" won't help with that, but T would.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Dennis on November 10, 2008, 08:55:26 AM
Post by: Dennis on November 10, 2008, 08:55:26 AM
Good question, je. I'm with Yochanan on it. I wouldn't take it. I spend a lot more time presenting my face to the world than my genitals and the social aspects of being treated as male are important to me.
Dennis
Dennis
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Adam on November 10, 2008, 09:18:05 AM
Post by: Adam on November 10, 2008, 09:18:05 AM
Sure, I already pass anyways. Why not just get that one thing I wouldn't fully be able to get anyother way.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: sneakersjay on November 10, 2008, 09:46:31 AM
Post by: sneakersjay on November 10, 2008, 09:46:31 AM
If you'd asked me that 10 or 20 years ago I would have said yes. At the time my missing anatomy was what drove me crazy; I functioned fairly well as a woman and would have been thrilled if I just had that southern anatomy.
Now I know it's not about the anatomy at all, but being who I am and presenting myself to the world as a man. I love the deeper voice and body hair and all things masculine. At this point I'd choose a few extra inches in height and a bit more facial hair.
Now, if you offered the whole package, no question!
Jay
Now I know it's not about the anatomy at all, but being who I am and presenting myself to the world as a man. I love the deeper voice and body hair and all things masculine. At this point I'd choose a few extra inches in height and a bit more facial hair.
Now, if you offered the whole package, no question!
Jay
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Nero on November 10, 2008, 09:57:21 AM
Post by: Nero on November 10, 2008, 09:57:21 AM
No, I like my current genital set.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: JonasCarminis on November 10, 2008, 12:45:14 PM
Post by: JonasCarminis on November 10, 2008, 12:45:14 PM
like someone said earlier. people see my face not my wang. or lack of. lol
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Jack Daniels on November 10, 2008, 01:02:00 PM
Post by: Jack Daniels on November 10, 2008, 01:02:00 PM
I would take it.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Godot on November 10, 2008, 01:08:47 PM
Post by: Godot on November 10, 2008, 01:08:47 PM
Yeah, I'd do it
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Mister on November 10, 2008, 04:53:40 PM
Post by: Mister on November 10, 2008, 04:53:40 PM
Why on earth would any of you pre-T non passing people take this?
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Jack Daniels on November 10, 2008, 06:30:20 PM
Post by: Jack Daniels on November 10, 2008, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: Mister on November 10, 2008, 04:53:40 PM
Why on earth would any of you pre-T non passing people take this?
Personally, im right in the middle, so I have no problem takin it, without the T
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: icontact on November 10, 2008, 07:53:16 PM
Post by: icontact on November 10, 2008, 07:53:16 PM
Well it depends on the person. For me, I'd totally do it, because my face/body is perfectly passable without T.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: J.T. on November 10, 2008, 09:10:11 PM
Post by: J.T. on November 10, 2008, 09:10:11 PM
Absolutely not... i could not deal with having those curves and that voice and the monthly crap again. A penis does not make a man. Not to mention the emotional/mental benefits of T.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: darius82501 on November 10, 2008, 09:52:16 PM
Post by: darius82501 on November 10, 2008, 09:52:16 PM
I would have to take this deal. . .having my own children is important to me, and the rest I would be able to deal with. And if you have a male reproductive system. . .there would be no periods. .nice
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Godot on November 10, 2008, 11:17:41 PM
Post by: Godot on November 10, 2008, 11:17:41 PM
Well..I would take it just because I don't plan on going on any kind of hormones to change my body. If I had a fully functional penis, passing wouldn't be that important to me anymore. I agree, a penis doesn't make a man but I think I would settle for one or the other.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: myles on November 10, 2008, 11:26:36 PM
Post by: myles on November 10, 2008, 11:26:36 PM
I wouldn't even though I would pass now (until I open my mouth!) I would rather have the T. I think it would help be pass better and make me more confident than a fully functional male organ, which no one can see.
Myles
Myles
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Jay on November 11, 2008, 03:02:03 AM
Post by: Jay on November 11, 2008, 03:02:03 AM
This is a really good question Je.
I would take it. If I could still have surgery it would be fine for me. I would have top surgery and then facial reconstruction (I know its extreme but hey!) I would also get a personal trainer to bulk my body up and to loose the fat.
If I could have children with it and perform as a normal man. Hell yeah I would!
I would take it. If I could still have surgery it would be fine for me. I would have top surgery and then facial reconstruction (I know its extreme but hey!) I would also get a personal trainer to bulk my body up and to loose the fat.
If I could have children with it and perform as a normal man. Hell yeah I would!
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: iFindMeHere on November 11, 2008, 04:47:31 PM
Post by: iFindMeHere on November 11, 2008, 04:47:31 PM
absolutely not. I need the stubble and the fat reshaping and the voice change. MUCH more important than the other stuff.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Mister on November 11, 2008, 06:23:51 PM
Post by: Mister on November 11, 2008, 06:23:51 PM
If you guys are actually passing, it's as super young dudes. What happens in ten years when you're not 19 anymore?
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Ender on November 11, 2008, 07:33:19 PM
Post by: Ender on November 11, 2008, 07:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mister on November 11, 2008, 06:23:51 PM
If you guys are actually passing, it's as super young dudes. What happens in ten years when you're not 19 anymore?
My thoughts exactly. As tempting as having a nearly perfect set of equipment down there is... I know full well what the women in my family start to look like as they age. They start looking even more like women: very pear-shaped with big hips. Boobs also get bigger; my mom was in her mid-thirties before her boobs finally filled out (though pregnancy prolly helped with that). So while I may pass OK-ish right now... I won't in the future. T for me.
BTW, has anyone ever noticed how the facial features of men vs. women seem to age differently? Mens' noses seem to get bigger and their skin gets coarser, while womens' faces get softer, sag at the jowls, and generally form more wrinkles than men? I dunno, maybe it's the skin... the skin on women seems to get very, very thin as they age (using the 80-90 year olds I know as reference); this doesn't seem to happen so much to old men.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: darius82501 on November 11, 2008, 08:01:59 PM
Post by: darius82501 on November 11, 2008, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: Eryk on November 11, 2008, 07:33:19 PMQuote from: Mister on November 11, 2008, 06:23:51 PM
If you guys are actually passing, it's as super young dudes. What happens in ten years when you're not 19 anymore?
My thoughts exactly. As tempting as having a nearly perfect set of equipment down there is... I know full well what the women in my family start to look like as they age. They start looking even more like women: very pear-shaped with big hips. Boobs also get bigger; my mom was in her mid-thirties before her boobs finally filled out (though pregnancy prolly helped with that). So while I may pass OK-ish right now... I won't in the future. T for me.
BTW, has anyone ever noticed how the facial features of men vs. women seem to age differently? Mens' noses seem to get bigger and their skin gets coarser, while womens' faces get softer, sag at the jowls, and generally form more wrinkles than men? I dunno, maybe it's the skin... the skin on women seems to get very, very thin as they age (using the 80-90 year olds I know as reference); this doesn't seem to happen so much to old men.
Does T do that much to change the way we age? T can't interfere with genetics. . .If your mother or father age that way chances are that is going to happen to you to. It is the unfortunate short comings of the F2M transition process. Maybe i am wrong, but I would assume how well you take care of your skin and body makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Dennis on November 11, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
Post by: Dennis on November 11, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
yeah T makes a difference. I looked like a middle aged woman before. Now I look like a young guy. With estrogen, there's nothing you can do about aging like a woman. T will make you age like a man. My friends who are my age, who've been on T longer than I have look like older guys.
Dennis
Dennis
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Christo on November 12, 2008, 12:14:34 AM
Post by: Christo on November 12, 2008, 12:14:34 AM
QuoteIf you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
no way jose!
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Luc on November 12, 2008, 03:52:12 AM
Post by: Luc on November 12, 2008, 03:52:12 AM
Nope. I really don't need a penis, and I love what T does for me. Who says all guys have to have penises? There are some XY men who don't have penises for any of various causes... I'm an XX guy who looks like any other guy unless I take off my pants. Not that big a deal.
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Ender on November 12, 2008, 02:45:25 PM
Post by: Ender on November 12, 2008, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: darius82501 on November 11, 2008, 08:01:59 PM
Does T do that much to change the way we age? T can't interfere with genetics. . .If your mother or father age that way chances are that is going to happen to you to. It is the unfortunate short comings of the F2M transition process. Maybe i am wrong, but I would assume how well you take care of your skin and body makes a huge difference.
Yeah, T definitely can't interfere with genetics; I can accept that, wrinkles & all. What I'm hoping is that T will make me age like my father/grandfather instead of my mother/grandmother--that is, I'd rather look like an old man rather than an old woman (and what Dennis said makes me hopeful that this is what will happen).
Title: Re: If you could have a fully functional penis with a tiny catch, would you?
Post by: Dev on November 13, 2008, 02:28:55 PM
Post by: Dev on November 13, 2008, 02:28:55 PM
As the OP stated.....No, I would not take the deal as much as it would be tempting. There are too many other things that are as important to me and I am lucky enough to have a woman who has been with me for a long time and stuck with me through it all and is willing to have a child for me where I pick out the donar so the child has as close to the same genetics as myself and my family have.
While we would like to have done things the natural way, we have learned to adapt and as self conscious as I am about my body, I would have some serious issues if more things did not match my mental state then did.
While we would like to have done things the natural way, we have learned to adapt and as self conscious as I am about my body, I would have some serious issues if more things did not match my mental state then did.