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Over dinner with my girlfriend... we had a talk that we'd had before.

Me: Seems like no one but me wears makeup any more.
She: I don't know any women who don't wear makeup. I wear it.
Me: All I ever hear from is women who insist that they hate makeup and never use it.
She: Trans women?
Me: All kinds of women.
She: At the office, all the women wear makeup.
Me: Maybe it's influenced by their politics; I bet they're Republicans.
She: No, the majority there is Democrat.
Me: I guess those who wear makeup just keep quiet about it.
Me: Maybe it's a matter of age: it's more usual for older women like me, but the young ones don't need it.
She: Lots of 'em go for the no-makeup look with it. But they wear it all right-- once I saw Amanda [a young co-worker] without makeup, and she didn't look the same at all; her skin was terrible!
She: Where do you find these women who say they don't use makeup?
Me: On the internet...

Quote from: Hypatia on December 09, 2008, 04:36:56 AM
Me: On the internet...

Ah, that magical land where everybody has flawless skin, pearly-white teeth and never need a drop of concealer.  ;D

~Simone,
       I don't wear make-up. :P

I "need" concealer badly (go go acne scaring), and a new smile for that matter (go go genetics and drinking water that killed the family fishes.) ... An you know what? While I love the eye make up I frankly cry to much to wear it, and the rest of it I found myself trying to recreate my natural pigmentation so I decided fooie on it. The result is I usually have a light pink lip gloss and that is my "makeup". Oddly it all seems to work out fine.

My grandmother believes that make-up is amoral.

i wear it quite occasionally but my wife insists i don't need it. i do like to hide my acne tho i severely hate it.

The women I work with some do some dont. My older friends do all the time!

Its personal preferrence.

My friend Claire doesn't wear it at all. She says that if some one likes her, they will like her
for her true self!

Isn't the point of makeup is to get to the point you look like you're not wearing any?

The natural look is in. Tons and tons of it.

-Shan

In answer to the original question: Yes.

Quote from: shaniam on December 09, 2008, 04:02:00 PM
Isn't the point of makeup is to get to the point you look like you're not wearing any?

I agree with this. They are wearing it, but it doesn't look like it ;)

A number of years ago, a makeup company -- Revlon, maybe -- had an ad that featured a woman saying,

Quote from: Hypatia on December 09, 2008, 04:36:56 AM
She: Where do you find these women who say they don't use makeup?
Me: On the internet...

LOL, well if you mean foundation or concealer, no, never... I HATE the "mask" feeling from it.

Just a touch of eye shadow, blush and lip stick or gloss for workdays ;)

~Kate~

Honestly, I think in the past year I've worn makeup just a few times.  I've never worn it every day.. I tried to do that once in high school, just putting on eyeliner and some foundation every day and I couldn't even keep that up. ;D

I put on makeup when I'm dressing up to go somewhere special.  That hardly ever happens. :-\  And even when I'm dressing up, I've never worn foundation, blush, eyeliner, mascara, eye shadow, and lipstick all at the same time.  I'd feel like a clown.  Usually I just stick with eyeliner, shadow, and lipstick and call it a day.  My foundation is now so old I don't use it anymore for fear it's gone bad.

Not daily, unless I am leaving home daily!  :laugh: :laugh: But not a lot either. Lip stick I seldom think about unless I am going for that "advantage" Emme wrote bout. :)

But, light make-up, yes.

Those of us who have

Quoteflawless skin, pearly-white teeth and never need a drop of concealer

never really need it, do we!!  >:-) >:-) >:-) >:-)

Nichole

Quote from: Nichole on December 12, 2008, 03:36:04 PM
Lip stick I seldom think about unless I am going for that "advantage" Emme wrote bout. :)

Awl, but a nicely-flavoured lip gloss is fun, lol... a tasty treat all afternoon! Plus you look kissable as heck ;)

~Kate~

Quote from: Kate on December 12, 2008, 03:40:52 PM

Quote from: Nichole on December 12, 2008, 03:36:04 PM
Lip stick I seldom think about unless I am going for that "advantage" Emme wrote bout. :)

Awl, but a nicely-flavoured lip gloss is fun, lol... a tasty treat all afternoon! Plus you look kissable as heck ;)

~Kate~

The only person I have any desire to kiss me right now will do that with or without the lipgloss. :)

N~

Yes. One reason for that is that guys always say they hate makeup. (What they really mean though is they hate obvious makeup.)

I wear eyeliner sometimes. And almost always mascara. (I'm blond.)

Ah ... maybe I'm just inexperienced with makeup ... and maybe I'll regret this ... but, Nero, what's the connection between your wearing mascara almost all the time and your being blonde?

Ah! That makes sense. Thank you, Emme.

As you may have gathered, I'm not blonde, and I've never had a blonde girlfriend. At least not one I could discuss makeup techniques with.  ;)

Yeah, if anyone is gonna see those eyelashes I have to wear mascara. Being blonde I like, but there are hinderances when one is "blonde all over" naturally. The eyelashes and brows tend to be two of those hinderances. :)

Nichole

Quote from: Nichole on December 13, 2008, 09:21:33 AM
Yeah, if anyone is gonna see those eyelashes I have to wear mascara. Being blonde I like, but there are hinderances when one is "blonde all over" naturally. The eyelashes and brows tend to be two of those hinderances. :)

Nichole

I agree.  If I don't wear mascara, my lashes disappear, even though they are decent length.  Same with my brows.  A little color and they seem to appear out of nowhere.  So always that, and a little lip color.  Mine are so ridiculously small.  If I'm going where it matters, I do use some foundation with some bronzer.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)

My GF tells me: Brunettes never go without lipstick, while blondes never go without mascara.

As a very brunette Mediterranean, I can tell you that my whole look depends on lip color. With my coloration, my lips would seem washed-out and disappear against the background of my olive skin. And none of that pink jive for me, ma'am. Got to have deep plum.

Quote from: Emme on December 14, 2008, 07:03:43 AM
And scary pale.

No such thing (=

Interestingly, I was a lighter shade of blond in my youth in comparison to your avatar image, an while I've certainly not tried many shades of lipstick I have to agree reds.. don't work. Pinks, however, at least don't make me cringe as much it seems. But in the same I um, don't have all that much surface area as far as lips go, heh.

Anyway, just thoughts in the wind...

Quote from: Hypatia on December 14, 2008, 03:05:06 AM
My GF tells me: Brunettes never go without lipstick, while blondes never go without mascara.

As a very brunette Mediterranean, I can tell you that my whole look depends on lip color. With my coloration, my lips would seem washed-out and disappear against the background of my olive skin. And none of that pink jive for me, ma'am. Got to have deep plum.

Wow. That's so true. My mom's the same way. She usually goes for red lips.

Quote from: Emme on December 14, 2008, 07:03:43 AM
I'm all mixed up.  I have rather dark brown hair, but I'm so white I'm translucent.  No, really, I make snow look tan.  But, I was a natural blond (see avatar) until my teen years, so my lashes are still blond tipped, even though my hair darkened.  I still have yet to find that perfect shade of red lipstick.  Most redds look horrible on me, and I have rather full lips.  Think Angelina Jolie, then make her poor and not famous, half as pretty, and several inches shorter.  And scary pale.

I found a Mary Kay foundation that was the perfect color for me one year, and it actually looked grey in the bottle.

That exactly the lipstick problem with me. Reds ususally make me lkook like one of the Undead. And totally unforgiving with my skin and hair. I'd love to occasionally wear a red lipcolor, but my goddess, I look like I had just arrived from TRansylvania!

Nichole

Quote from: Nichole link=topic=51193.msg318229#msg318229
That exactly the lipstick problem with me. Reds ususally make me lkook like one of the Undead. And totally unforgiving with my skin and hair.

I can't really go darker than a deep dusty rose.

Quote from: Nichole link=topic=51193.msg318229#msg318229
I'd love to occasionally wear a red lipcolor, but my goddess, I look like I had just arrived from TRansylvania!
Nichole

OMG, that's hilarious.  Which one do you resemble?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdu7xoHU9DA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdu7xoHU9DA)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi

I look, at times like Riff-Raff, the handyman 'igor' character, but since that's the guy who wrote RHPS, and made the money off of it, he's the person I want to be.

Quote from: tekla on December 14, 2008, 11:49:43 AM
I look, at times like Riff-Raff, the handyman 'igor' character, but since that's the guy who wrote RHPS, and made the money off of it, he's the person I want to be.

YOU SHOT FRANK! EVUL!

Around these parts we have a name for women that don't wear makeup:

"physicists."

(Actually, a lot of them do too -- but the mousy awkward women that spend their days aligning lasers while wearing blue jeans from Target and tee shirts fom conferences, bless their hearts, maybe not.)

Almost every woman I see wears makeup, even a majority of the nerdy ones, even the ones with no particular sense of style.

I once wrote a story about the historical Hypatia in a modern setting. I mentioned her driving to her job as chair of a university math department, late for work, and touching up her makeup at red lights, a bad habit she'd tried to quit.

A female mathematician saw that and criticized: "This isn't true to life-- there is no such thing as a math professor who wears makeup."

Quote from: Hypatia on December 15, 2008, 03:32:39 PM
I once wrote a story about the historical Hypatia in a modern setting. I mentioned her driving to her job as chair of a university math department, late for work, and touching up her makeup at red lights, a bad habit she'd tried to quit.

A female mathematician saw that and criticized: "This isn't true to life-- there is no such thing as a math professor who wears makeup."

Okay, technically, Lisa Randall isn't a  math professor. But pretty close ... professor and theoretical physicist ...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.timeinc.net%2Ftime%2Ftime100%2F2007%2Fimages%2Flisa_randall.jpg&hash=93156ea720ccae011c0ef68f35d714798811c713)

Yeah, I think she knows her way around a cosmetics counter.





Dammit. I want to be Lisa Randall.

Since it's a community college I work it, we have "faculty" rather than "professors," but an overwhelming majority of the math faculty are female, and they seem to wear as much make-up as the general population of corresponding age groups.

Lisa rocks, her work on string theory is pretty wild.

Quote from: tekla on December 17, 2008, 09:42:14 AM
Lisa rocks, her work on string theory is pretty wild.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zc_-j3uHww (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zc_-j3uHww)

funny, gave me a good laugh.
Also, yes they do. On field studies(School camping experience for 2 days)the girls still wear makeup on the trip, in the wilderness to "Get away from it all" but that defeats the purpose right?