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Title: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Rita Irene on December 29, 2008, 02:05:11 PM
Post by: Rita Irene on December 29, 2008, 02:05:11 PM
I scored 320....whatever that means :-\
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: soldierjane on December 29, 2008, 02:16:24 PM
Post by: soldierjane on December 29, 2008, 02:16:24 PM
I took it a looooong time ago and got classification 4 or 5.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: soldierjane on December 29, 2008, 02:17:22 PM
Post by: soldierjane on December 29, 2008, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: Rita Irene on December 29, 2008, 02:05:11 PM
I scored 320....whatever that means :-\
Score: +130 to +389, COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL
QuoteWhat this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially feminine, but with some masculine or androgynous traits. It is very possible that you are a candidate for a diagnosis of transsexualism. You show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. At the very least, further investigation should be undertaken. Your COGIATI score places you among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' transsexual.
SUGGESTIONS FOR ACTION:
Your situation is potentially serious and indicative of a probable inborn gender conflict. It is definitely recommended that you pursue further action.
The suggestions for your circumstance are several.
1. It is recommended that you seek help from a sympathetic counselor or professional about your gender issues. It is very possible that over time they will become increasingly difficult to cope with. Early determination of what you really need and want is vital. You need to determine if you truly are transsexual. Keep in mind, though, that many alternatives exist other than complete sexual transformation. Partial transformation and many other way of existing are available. While you are very possibly a transsexual, COGIATI has determined that this is not absolutely certain. While time is an issue, being certain is more important. Proceed with investigation of your possible transsexuality or ->-bleeped-<-, but with caution.
2. Some actions may help you to define your needs more clearly. Experimenting with living full time as a woman, taking hormones for a short time under supervision, or taking testosterone suppressers to observe how you feel are all viable options. Keep in mind that while it is very likely that you might be a transsexual, it is not certain. Do not take severe or permanent actions without long thought and the help of counselors and professionals.
3. Your gender issues are real, and should not be ignored. Neither should you rush into acting on them, however powerful they may feel. You do not fit the full criterion for the rarest classification, classic transsexuality, and so should be cautious, and open to possibilities. You may yet end up undergoing transition, and the path of the transsexual may well be your salvation. Be very careful, but do not ignore your issues.
4. If you have not already, consider joining any of the thousands of groups devoted to gender expression of various kinds. There is literally a world of friends to discover who share your interests. There are also publications, vacations, and activities that would expand your gender expression.
http://www.truecrossing.com/cogiatiscoring.htm (http://www.truecrossing.com/cogiatiscoring.htm)
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: NightAngel on December 29, 2008, 07:15:01 PM
Post by: NightAngel on December 29, 2008, 07:15:01 PM
+370 :icon_female:
Score: +130 to +389, COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL
pretty interesting test, thank you Rita Irene & Soldierjane :icon_wave:
:icon_hug: Michelle :icon_hug:
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Northern Jane on December 29, 2008, 07:19:52 PM
Post by: Northern Jane on December 29, 2008, 07:19:52 PM
I have taken it many times over the years. Mainly I can score where ever I want to.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: iminadaze on December 29, 2008, 09:16:30 PM
Post by: iminadaze on December 29, 2008, 09:16:30 PM
I took that test about a year ago and got a 350 it is an entertaining test if anything but there is no reason to take it more than once cuz if you answered honestly each time your score should be
the same. I never took the test again as it would kinda spoil the entertainment value knowing how easy it is to manipulate a higher score....but it was fun to read thier recommendation on what I should do about my transsexualism :laugh:
Nicole
the same. I never took the test again as it would kinda spoil the entertainment value knowing how easy it is to manipulate a higher score....but it was fun to read thier recommendation on what I should do about my transsexualism :laugh:
Nicole
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Eva Marie on December 29, 2008, 10:33:26 PM
Post by: Eva Marie on December 29, 2008, 10:33:26 PM
I took it and scored as basically an androgyne.
I mentioned it here on the board and took a lot of crap about it :embarrassed:
I mentioned it here on the board and took a lot of crap about it :embarrassed:
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Robyn on December 29, 2008, 11:04:52 PM
Post by: Robyn on December 29, 2008, 11:04:52 PM
Hmmmm. I'm 8 1/2 years postop. I should take it again. I know it wouldn't work for my FTM husband,
Robyn
Robyn
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 29, 2008, 11:08:52 PM
Post by: cindybc on December 29, 2008, 11:08:52 PM
Hmmm never heard about this test until now, I'm 4 years post-op, wheres the test questions?
Cindy
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: lizbeth on December 29, 2008, 11:54:07 PM
Post by: lizbeth on December 29, 2008, 11:54:07 PM
I took it here, Cindy:
http://www.okcupid.com/quizzy/take?id=18400278520976255320 (http://www.okcupid.com/quizzy/take?id=18400278520976255320)
it doesn't give the same scores, but still has the same classes
Your result for The C.O.G.I.A.T.I. (transgender) Test...TRANSSEXUAL (http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests//results/the-c.o.g.i.a.t.i.-(transgender)-test/?fromCGI=1&var_gender=460)You scored 85% female.The C.O.G.I.A.T.I. (transgender) Test (http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-c.o.g.i.a.t.i.-(transgender)-test) at HelloQuizzy (http://www.helloquizzy.com)
shoot, I forgot. fair warning you have to create an account to get the results (doesn't need a real email though)
http://www.okcupid.com/quizzy/take?id=18400278520976255320 (http://www.okcupid.com/quizzy/take?id=18400278520976255320)
it doesn't give the same scores, but still has the same classes
Your result for The C.O.G.I.A.T.I. (transgender) Test...TRANSSEXUAL (http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests//results/the-c.o.g.i.a.t.i.-(transgender)-test/?fromCGI=1&var_gender=460)You scored 85% female.The C.O.G.I.A.T.I. (transgender) Test (http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-c.o.g.i.a.t.i.-(transgender)-test) at HelloQuizzy (http://www.helloquizzy.com)
shoot, I forgot. fair warning you have to create an account to get the results (doesn't need a real email though)
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 12:01:02 AM
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 12:01:02 AM
Thanks sweets.
Well that goes well with everything else tonight, I thought I was going to have to sell my soul to the company store just to get an birthday card for someone tonight. Turns out I only had to sell my panties including the drawer to get the darnn card.
Cindy
Well that goes well with everything else tonight, I thought I was going to have to sell my soul to the company store just to get an birthday card for someone tonight. Turns out I only had to sell my panties including the drawer to get the darnn card.
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 01:40:16 AM
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 01:40:16 AM
Your result for The C.O.G.I.A.T.I. (transgender) Test ...
TRANSSEXUAL
You scored 83% female.
COGIATI classification FIVE, TRANSSEXUAL What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be female. According to COGIATI, your mind and gender identity is that of a woman. You essentially fit the the model of the classic transsexual,
Rate my test!
Currently quiz/5 Stars. 1 2 3 4 5
90/100 You scored 83% on gender, higher than 90% of your peers.
Cindy
TRANSSEXUAL
You scored 83% female.
COGIATI classification FIVE, TRANSSEXUAL What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be female. According to COGIATI, your mind and gender identity is that of a woman. You essentially fit the the model of the classic transsexual,
Rate my test!
Currently quiz/5 Stars. 1 2 3 4 5
90/100 You scored 83% on gender, higher than 90% of your peers.
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Hypatia on December 30, 2008, 03:57:50 AM
Post by: Hypatia on December 30, 2008, 03:57:50 AM
My result:
TRANSSEXUAL
You scored 86% female.
You scored 86% on gender, higher than 94% of your peers.
CONGRATULATIONS! You have won the "¿Quién es la más trans?" contest! First prize is an all-expenses paid trip to Bangkok...
</sarcasm>
TRANSSEXUAL
You scored 86% female.
You scored 86% on gender, higher than 94% of your peers.
CONGRATULATIONS! You have won the "¿Quién es la más trans?" contest! First prize is an all-expenses paid trip to Bangkok...
</sarcasm>
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: mickie88 on December 30, 2008, 06:09:48 AM
Post by: mickie88 on December 30, 2008, 06:09:48 AM
Your result for The C.O.G.I.A.T.I. (transgender) Test... TRANSSEXUAL (http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests//results/the-c.o.g.i.a.t.i.-(transgender)-test/?fromCGI=1&var_gender=465)You scored 86% female.The C.O.G.I.A.T.I. (transgender) Test (http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-c.o.g.i.a.t.i.-(transgender)-test) at HelloQuizzy (http://www.helloquizzy.com)
TRANSSEXUAL
You scored 86% female.
COGIATI classification FIVE, TRANSSEXUAL What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be female. According to COGIATI, your mind and gender identity is that of a woman.
Compared to other takers
94/100 You scored 86% on gender, higher than 94% of your peers.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: tekla on December 30, 2008, 06:14:25 AM
Post by: tekla on December 30, 2008, 06:14:25 AM
It's an internet piece of junk. It says nothing really. You get the results you want. Because everyone lies, even to them selves taking test like this. There is NO predictive value in the results.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Rita Irene on December 30, 2008, 06:35:30 AM
Post by: Rita Irene on December 30, 2008, 06:35:30 AM
Quote from: tekla on December 30, 2008, 06:14:25 AM
It's an internet piece of junk. It says nothing really. You get the results you want. Because everyone lies, even to them selves taking test like this. There is NO predictive value in the results.
well, I wouldnt say I lied...I thought about my answers and I knew where some, or most of the answers would lead...BUT, it was interesting to ponder my view on most of the questions and further realize I DO think like a woman.
Are you overanalyzing the test...say, as a Man would do? :o
I still love you Tekla! :)
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 09:47:11 AM
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 09:47:11 AM
I believe that after living as a woman for 9 years I am quite certain as to the answeres I was ticking off, in some places I wished they had diferent options to fit my present status.
Hypatia hon I won an all expence payd trip to Tierra Delfwago in South Amarica. Hows the weather in Bangkock? "Hee, hee, hee."
Cindy
Hypatia hon I won an all expence payd trip to Tierra Delfwago in South Amarica. Hows the weather in Bangkock? "Hee, hee, hee."
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: soldierjane on December 30, 2008, 10:10:22 AM
Post by: soldierjane on December 30, 2008, 10:10:22 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on December 30, 2008, 03:57:50 AM
My result:
TRANSSEXUAL
You scored 86% female.
You scored 86% on gender, higher than 94% of your peers.
CONGRATULATIONS! You have won the "¿Quién es la más trans?" contest! First prize is an all-expenses paid trip to Bangkok...
</sarcasm>
No sabía que también hablabas español, Hypatia ;)
The test is for pre-transitioners, btw :P
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 11:14:53 AM
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 11:14:53 AM
Yes it is geared for pretransitioners but a pretty darn accurate test if the person answers the questions honestly they can have a pretty good idea what stage of development they are at. Good questions.
Cindy
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Jeneva on December 30, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
Post by: Jeneva on December 30, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
I know it got mentioned on the other thread about this, but take this test with a large shaker of salt. It is VERY stereotypical. For example if you have "dealt" with TS issues by withdrawing from others then you won't register as TS according to this because you won't be able to instantly tell what someone is thinking from their expression and won't be happy to sit on someone else's lap while they give you hugs and cry on your shoulder about past issues. It also assumes that only men are interested in math and science and that all women will be poets.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 12:27:27 PM
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 12:27:27 PM
I said yes to all those things. I have always been a touchy feely person, well at least I have felt more comfortable being touchy feely since I transitioned, and yes I love hugs, can't get enough of them and when I get hugged I feel I deserve it.
I will also give my shoulder for anyone to cry or lean on, I don't mind a welt top. That is just me being me in real life out there and here on the board as well. I love science, astronomy, archeology, physics, metaphysics, quantum physics but not so big on math. and I also love writing poetry and prose. I said yes to all those things.
Maybe I am old fashioned and stereotype but then who gives a crap. I adored my mom and it turns out I have more of her traits then anyone else in the family. My mom wasn't born yesterday either. She didn't say much about me, she loved me and we were close, Of course she knew and just never said much about it. Back then she wouldn't have known what to do about it anyway.
My only desire is to be able to reach out and touch people like she did, then I am that much the richer in spirit for doing so. To a greater extent I do follow in her footsteps and i have found it rewarding to the heart to be kind and supportive to others. But then that's my opinion only.
Cindy
I will also give my shoulder for anyone to cry or lean on, I don't mind a welt top. That is just me being me in real life out there and here on the board as well. I love science, astronomy, archeology, physics, metaphysics, quantum physics but not so big on math. and I also love writing poetry and prose. I said yes to all those things.
Maybe I am old fashioned and stereotype but then who gives a crap. I adored my mom and it turns out I have more of her traits then anyone else in the family. My mom wasn't born yesterday either. She didn't say much about me, she loved me and we were close, Of course she knew and just never said much about it. Back then she wouldn't have known what to do about it anyway.
My only desire is to be able to reach out and touch people like she did, then I am that much the richer in spirit for doing so. To a greater extent I do follow in her footsteps and i have found it rewarding to the heart to be kind and supportive to others. But then that's my opinion only.
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Jeneva on December 30, 2008, 01:52:46 PM
Post by: Jeneva on December 30, 2008, 01:52:46 PM
Quote from: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 12:27:27 PM
well at least I have felt more comfortable being touchy feely since I transitioned
Ah, but here is the problem, the test is geared toward pre-transition people. Does that then mean that even you would have been told you weren't if you took it before? Obviously you are thriving now as your real self so it would have been wrong.
The same ones that have likely learned to actively NOT be touchy feely regardless of how they feel because it isn't "acceptable". When you're already getting "what are you, some kind of ->-bleeped-<-got" questions some of those question answers are just a death wish (or at least severe bodily harm). Once you get good enough at that kind of hiding/shying away then it becomes habit/second nature. The fact you've learned to hide what you are doesn't mean you aren't. Its going to take time to unlearn all those protective mechanisms.
In fact I find the test harmful in that aspect. If you've opened up enough to take that sort of test (considering becoming your real self) and then it says you aren't what does that tell us? If your first reach outside yourself is smacked away how many people just won't huddle inside forever.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: coolJ on December 30, 2008, 02:27:43 PM
Post by: coolJ on December 30, 2008, 02:27:43 PM
I'v scored 430 and 470. The funny thing is alot of the questions where already in my fantasies during my entire life! I always answer honestly because I'm not afraid of any results. But I do feel great when I test more female-go figure! :laugh: BTW- I've never tested male on any test and a decent one is the BBC sex ID brain profile test. But like anything there can be variations in any of these tests so I wouldnt go writing anything in stone just yet! ;D
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 02:38:53 PM
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 02:38:53 PM
Hi Hiddenflame
You are correct about the part that you just wouldn't want to tell just anyone about this test and the results you got from them. I was only testifying to the fact that the test itself is one of the more accurate enough ones I have come across in some time. Serves as a reasonable enough tool of reference for one who is seeking to learn more about gender dysphoria or where they are at on the transsexuality scale.
To gauge oneself as to have an idea if you are early in this development or later on in the development, and yes it is geared for pre-transitioners and it is not necessary to be shared with anyone else until the individual taking the test is ready to do so. There are several different places on the document before you begin the test that they suggest you consult a gender therapist and not just take the test as the hand book to the alpha and omega of transsexuality.
That is why I said that for some of the four options or answers they give for each question I wish that they had added one or two more options. The reason I went on with the test was to *test* the accuracy of the test according to my own experience and came to my own conclusion that I believe it to be fairly accurate in its assessments.
Probably one of the better Laid out tests I have come across so far. I believe that after a time, after some years of transitioning, **not necessarily post-op** but after sufficient time to develop your own opinions, observations, developments, feelings and ideas about transitioning. What it means to you? Well any one could construct their own questionnaire from their own experiences, but then each individuals experiences will not quite likely be a carbon copy of the next person.
So this is why at best most of these tests will come out with only ball park figures, but close enough for the inquisitive to have an idea what they will be confronting. Thank you for the challenge, I like a little brain gymnastics now and again. This is about the most interesting topic of discussion there has been since the **Being a Woman** thread a few days ago.
Cindy
You are correct about the part that you just wouldn't want to tell just anyone about this test and the results you got from them. I was only testifying to the fact that the test itself is one of the more accurate enough ones I have come across in some time. Serves as a reasonable enough tool of reference for one who is seeking to learn more about gender dysphoria or where they are at on the transsexuality scale.
To gauge oneself as to have an idea if you are early in this development or later on in the development, and yes it is geared for pre-transitioners and it is not necessary to be shared with anyone else until the individual taking the test is ready to do so. There are several different places on the document before you begin the test that they suggest you consult a gender therapist and not just take the test as the hand book to the alpha and omega of transsexuality.
That is why I said that for some of the four options or answers they give for each question I wish that they had added one or two more options. The reason I went on with the test was to *test* the accuracy of the test according to my own experience and came to my own conclusion that I believe it to be fairly accurate in its assessments.
Probably one of the better Laid out tests I have come across so far. I believe that after a time, after some years of transitioning, **not necessarily post-op** but after sufficient time to develop your own opinions, observations, developments, feelings and ideas about transitioning. What it means to you? Well any one could construct their own questionnaire from their own experiences, but then each individuals experiences will not quite likely be a carbon copy of the next person.
So this is why at best most of these tests will come out with only ball park figures, but close enough for the inquisitive to have an idea what they will be confronting. Thank you for the challenge, I like a little brain gymnastics now and again. This is about the most interesting topic of discussion there has been since the **Being a Woman** thread a few days ago.
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Suzy on December 30, 2008, 02:59:57 PM
Post by: Suzy on December 30, 2008, 02:59:57 PM
I've always scored between 350 and 370. Like others said, though, these results are not guaranteed. I consider it somewhere between a self-reflection tool and a novelty.
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Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Steph on December 30, 2008, 06:50:50 PM
Post by: Steph on December 30, 2008, 06:50:50 PM
Quote from: tekla on December 30, 2008, 06:14:25 AM
It's an internet piece of junk. It says nothing really. You get the results you want. Because everyone lies, even to them selves taking test like this. There is NO predictive value in the results.
I have to agree with tekla. It falls in the same category of the string of tests that were posted here last year covering such topics as, what color are you, what type of Fairy are you , what type of personality do you have etc. etc. Fun to take at best but one should not consider them as any type of diagnostic tools.
Sorry folks.
Steph
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 08:27:58 PM
Post by: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 08:27:58 PM
Hi Kriti hon, I quite agree with you on;
Yea I got brains, I just don't use them all the time lest I confuse the masses. ;D
Cindy
Quoteself-reflection tool and a novelty.Most any test will not reflect everyone the same, I quite agree, most tests are geared to be more as a self reflection tool than a blanket generality because such is the nature of the beast called humanity and their unique specialized individual perceptions.
Yea I got brains, I just don't use them all the time lest I confuse the masses. ;D
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: kimmie on December 30, 2008, 10:38:19 PM
Post by: kimmie on December 30, 2008, 10:38:19 PM
PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL
You scored 80% female.
COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially feminine, but with some masculine or androgynous traits. It is very possible that you are a candidate for a diagnosis of transsexualism. You show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. At the very least, further investigation should be undertaken. Your COGIATI score places you among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' transsexual. SUGGESTIONS FOR ACTION: Your situation is potentially serious and indicative of a probable inborn gender conflict. It is definitely recommended that you pursue further action. The suggestions for your circumstance are several. 1. It is recommended that you seek help from a sympathetic counselor or professional about your gender issues. It is very possible that over time they will become increasingly difficult to cope with. Early determination of what you really need and want is vital. You need to determine if you truly are transsexual. Keep in mind, though, that many alternatives exist other than complete sexual transformation. Partial transformation and many other way of existing are available. While you are very possibly a transsexual, COGIATI has determined that this is not absolutely certain. While time is an issue, being certain is more important. Proceed with investigation of your possible transsexuality or ->-bleeped-<-, but with caution. 2. Some actions may help you to define your needs more clearly. Experimenting with living full time as a woman, taking hormones for a short time under supervision, or taking testosterone suppressers to observe how you feel are all viable options. Keep in mind that while it is very likely that you might be a transsexual, it is not certain. Do not take severe or permanent actions without long thought and the help of counselors and professionals. 3. Your gender issues are real, and should not be ignored. Neither should you rush into acting on them, however powerful they may feel. You do not fit the full criterion for the rarest classification, classic transsexuality, and so should be cautious, and open to possibilities. You may yet end up undergoing transition, and the path of the transsexual may well be your salvation. Be very careful, but do not ignore your issues. 4. If you have not already, consider joining any of the thousands of groups devoted to gender expression of various kinds. There is literally a world of friends to discover who share your interests. There are also publications, vacations, and activities that would expand your gender expression.
compared to other takers
85/100 You scored 80% on gender, higher than 85% of your peers.
You scored 80% female.
COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially feminine, but with some masculine or androgynous traits. It is very possible that you are a candidate for a diagnosis of transsexualism. You show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. At the very least, further investigation should be undertaken. Your COGIATI score places you among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' transsexual. SUGGESTIONS FOR ACTION: Your situation is potentially serious and indicative of a probable inborn gender conflict. It is definitely recommended that you pursue further action. The suggestions for your circumstance are several. 1. It is recommended that you seek help from a sympathetic counselor or professional about your gender issues. It is very possible that over time they will become increasingly difficult to cope with. Early determination of what you really need and want is vital. You need to determine if you truly are transsexual. Keep in mind, though, that many alternatives exist other than complete sexual transformation. Partial transformation and many other way of existing are available. While you are very possibly a transsexual, COGIATI has determined that this is not absolutely certain. While time is an issue, being certain is more important. Proceed with investigation of your possible transsexuality or ->-bleeped-<-, but with caution. 2. Some actions may help you to define your needs more clearly. Experimenting with living full time as a woman, taking hormones for a short time under supervision, or taking testosterone suppressers to observe how you feel are all viable options. Keep in mind that while it is very likely that you might be a transsexual, it is not certain. Do not take severe or permanent actions without long thought and the help of counselors and professionals. 3. Your gender issues are real, and should not be ignored. Neither should you rush into acting on them, however powerful they may feel. You do not fit the full criterion for the rarest classification, classic transsexuality, and so should be cautious, and open to possibilities. You may yet end up undergoing transition, and the path of the transsexual may well be your salvation. Be very careful, but do not ignore your issues. 4. If you have not already, consider joining any of the thousands of groups devoted to gender expression of various kinds. There is literally a world of friends to discover who share your interests. There are also publications, vacations, and activities that would expand your gender expression.
compared to other takers
85/100 You scored 80% on gender, higher than 85% of your peers.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Hypatia on December 31, 2008, 01:00:07 AM
Post by: Hypatia on December 31, 2008, 01:00:07 AM
Quote from: soldierjane on December 30, 2008, 10:10:22 AMQuote from: Hypatia on December 30, 2008, 03:57:50 AMYou have won the "¿Quién es la más trans?" contest!
No sabía que también hablabas español, Hypatia ;)
REVA*, Jane
*riendo en voz alta
That was just a takeoff on silly phrases like "¿Quién es el más macho?" etc. which are even heard sometimes in English-speaking contexts. I've been brushing up on Spanish, thinking that if I ever leave the USA, I'd move to Spain, where trans people are accorded equal rights.
Quote from: cindybc on December 30, 2008, 02:38:53 PM
That is why I said that for some of the four options or answers they give for each question I wish that they had added one or two more options.
This version of the test actually gave 5 options per question; skipping a question was apparently considered the gender-neutral or in-between position.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Alyssa M. on December 31, 2008, 01:46:15 AM
Post by: Alyssa M. on December 31, 2008, 01:46:15 AM
I have taken it a few times over the years and scored between categories 3 and 4. I think my mad math skeelz lowered my score somewhat. That's what happens when you parents are math geeks....
Everybody likes to bash cogiati. Fine, it's kind of trashy. I've got to say I found it useful. It's transparently gender normative, and obviously easily manipulated. But I think that's the point. It's food for thought -- manipulate it and try on a few labels for size. See how they feel when applied to you -- rather than those people. It was the first time anyone perceived me as anything other than just a guy, and that was a big deal for me. (Granted, "anyone" meaning "Jen Reitz's cgi script" -- but still.)
Everybody likes to bash cogiati. Fine, it's kind of trashy. I've got to say I found it useful. It's transparently gender normative, and obviously easily manipulated. But I think that's the point. It's food for thought -- manipulate it and try on a few labels for size. See how they feel when applied to you -- rather than those people. It was the first time anyone perceived me as anything other than just a guy, and that was a big deal for me. (Granted, "anyone" meaning "Jen Reitz's cgi script" -- but still.)
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 31, 2008, 09:45:23 AM
Post by: cindybc on December 31, 2008, 09:45:23 AM
Hi Hypatia hon, I didn't count how many answers there were for each questions, what I meant is I was wishing they had one or more options for answers. I guess what I was looking for was a progress report on just at what point on the scale of development one is at past the transsexual diagnosis level. Maybe they don't make such a critter.
Cindy
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Steph on December 31, 2008, 01:15:24 PM
Post by: Steph on December 31, 2008, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: Rene' aka candygirl on December 31, 2008, 12:36:54 PM
....Do Not self diagnose or self medicate. Way to much bunkum and misinformation is swirling around out there...Don't be taken in by any of it.
Agreed... I took the test quite few years ago now. The problem I discovered with the test is that you can skew the answers to get the result that you want or need. Sometimes we do this consciously or unconsciously the problem is that there are many out there who are desperately looking for answers and who will take the results they receive as gospel, affirming a belief that may have tragic consequences.
For fun maybe, for anything else - no way.
Steph
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Selene on December 31, 2008, 01:26:04 PM
Post by: Selene on December 31, 2008, 01:26:04 PM
I found this and took it a few days ago and got a 183(i think) stage 4, but I'm a very distant person and don't like to be hugged/be close to any one. So those questions didn't really apply to me. Only time with the therapist will tell with me since I've just started this journey.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Shana A on December 31, 2008, 01:29:24 PM
Post by: Shana A on December 31, 2008, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on December 31, 2008, 01:00:07 AMQuote from: soldierjane on December 30, 2008, 10:10:22 AMQuote from: Hypatia on December 30, 2008, 03:57:50 AMYou have won the "¿Quién es la más trans?" contest!
No sabía que también hablabas español, Hypatia ;)
REVA*, Jane
*riendo en voz alta
That was just a takeoff on silly phrases like "¿Quién es el más macho?" etc. which are even heard sometimes in English-speaking contexts. I've been brushing up on Spanish, thinking that if I ever leave the USA, I'd move to Spain, where trans people are accorded equal rights.
Vivida in Espana por tres anos en las 1970s. Nunca para derechos trans.... es mejor ahora ;D
Z
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Rachael on December 31, 2008, 02:21:03 PM
Post by: Rachael on December 31, 2008, 02:21:03 PM
Quote from: Rene' aka candygirl on December 31, 2008, 12:36:54 PMIm afraid that is the voice of someone with the option and of treatment talking.... You got treatment... you can say that... for some of us... it was our only option... our only way of survival...
Do Not self diagnose or self medicate. Way to much bunkum and misinformation is swirling around out there...Don't be taken in by any of it.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Rita Irene on December 31, 2008, 02:28:47 PM
Post by: Rita Irene on December 31, 2008, 02:28:47 PM
Wow! I didnt realize this would stir everyone up so much...
for me, it was just a confirmation of what I already know.
I would never expect someone who got a high score to suddenly head of in trans direction, but I guess some might.
for me, it was just a confirmation of what I already know.
I would never expect someone who got a high score to suddenly head of in trans direction, but I guess some might.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on December 31, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
Post by: cindybc on December 31, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
Neither did I Rita, and it did mention in several different places not to go by their test, to seek a gender therapist or a qualified psychiatrist for affirmation. I suppose there are those here though that could take such a test as gospel.
I did lots of these tests as well in the past, for me it was affirmation enough to help me accept who I was and, ***and seek professional help*** before beginning transitioning. I never self prescribed any kind of pills or drugs for myself. Hmmmm, well, except for some years ago maybe pot and booze.
I am quite aware of some who self prescribe HRT. That is scarry, some are taking double or more the prescribed amount. Those that either can't afford a therapist or are just to scared to go to one for fear the therapist may turn them down for some reason or another. There are people out there, that use all kinds of different excuses but I am also quite sadly aware of those Starbuck mentioned as well.
I don't know what the answer, is except that there should be some type of coverage for those who can't afford to pay for the treatment.
I wish I had a bandaid for all the ills and shortcomings folks suffer but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to get a big enough supply of bandaids for that.
Cindy
I did lots of these tests as well in the past, for me it was affirmation enough to help me accept who I was and, ***and seek professional help*** before beginning transitioning. I never self prescribed any kind of pills or drugs for myself. Hmmmm, well, except for some years ago maybe pot and booze.
I am quite aware of some who self prescribe HRT. That is scarry, some are taking double or more the prescribed amount. Those that either can't afford a therapist or are just to scared to go to one for fear the therapist may turn them down for some reason or another. There are people out there, that use all kinds of different excuses but I am also quite sadly aware of those Starbuck mentioned as well.
I don't know what the answer, is except that there should be some type of coverage for those who can't afford to pay for the treatment.
I wish I had a bandaid for all the ills and shortcomings folks suffer but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to get a big enough supply of bandaids for that.
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Alyssa M. on December 31, 2008, 07:16:31 PM
Post by: Alyssa M. on December 31, 2008, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: Starbuck on December 31, 2008, 02:21:03 PMQuote from: Rene' aka candygirl on December 31, 2008, 12:36:54 PMIm afraid that is the voice of someone with the option and of treatment talking.... You got treatment... you can say that... for some of us... it was our only option... our only way of survival...
Do Not self diagnose or self medicate. Way to much bunkum and misinformation is swirling around out there...Don't be taken in by any of it.
Agreed. I'd add that I don't really believe there's anything better out there than self-diagnosis. That is, it would be great if we could all see qualified gender therapists, but the qualifications that make a therapist qualified are rather vague. I trust my therapist -- she has a lot of experience with trans issues -- but I hear so many people who have problems with theirs. When I read the DSM standard for GID, it is hardly different than self-diagnosis anyway.
That was a big part of the reason that Reitz wrote the cogiati -- because there isn't any good diagnostic method other than self-diagnosis.
~Alyssa
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Mia Kitten on January 01, 2009, 12:20:01 PM
Post by: Mia Kitten on January 01, 2009, 12:20:01 PM
I just took the test...
I didn't like the choices on a lot of questions---I had to stretch to find the 'right' answer (closest to how I really felt). It was fun to take though.
I didn't like the choices on a lot of questions---I had to stretch to find the 'right' answer (closest to how I really felt). It was fun to take though.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: KarenLyn on January 01, 2009, 12:51:40 PM
Post by: KarenLyn on January 01, 2009, 12:51:40 PM
Quote from: Emme on December 29, 2008, 10:46:10 PMQuote from: riven_one on December 29, 2008, 10:33:26 PM
I took it and scored as basically an androgyne.
I mentioned it here on the board and took a lot of crap about it :embarrassed:
Don't feel bad. I took it and scored Androgyne too. And I'm a cis-female. LMAO
What I don't understand is why so much emphasis is placed on a test that has no value as a diagnostic tool. Jennifer, the author of the test, is an IT person with no medical/psychiatric background other than being TS herself. She stated on her site that she never intended it to be used that way.
I took the test myself and find it to be slanted to stereotypical values that may have been accurate... if you lived in the 50's.
I haven't talked to her in a long time but I'm sure she's amazed at where it's gone.
Karen
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Alyssa M. on January 01, 2009, 01:49:49 PM
Post by: Alyssa M. on January 01, 2009, 01:49:49 PM
She said as much herself -- see http://transsexual.org/wordoncogiati.html (http://transsexual.org/wordoncogiati.html)
She didn't intend it as a diagnostic tool -- but I gather she intended it to inspire the creation of a better tool -- or at the very least, to spark discussion about the process of diagnosis:
I guess in that sense she failed -- the GID diagnosis is still very subjective -- the options are self-diagnosis and the wildly varying criteria of gender psychologists.
She didn't intend it as a diagnostic tool -- but I gather she intended it to inspire the creation of a better tool -- or at the very least, to spark discussion about the process of diagnosis:
QuoteThe COGIATI is a challenge to the scientific and medical community to follow my example, and do a better job than I.
I guess in that sense she failed -- the GID diagnosis is still very subjective -- the options are self-diagnosis and the wildly varying criteria of gender psychologists.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on January 01, 2009, 02:57:22 PM
Post by: cindybc on January 01, 2009, 02:57:22 PM
Thanks Alyssa for that link http://transsexual.org/wordoncogiati.html (http://transsexual.org/wordoncogiati.html)
If nothing else maybe it teaches people to do a little more research before spouting off about just why there are stereotypes and psychological differences in how the female and male brain works and how both can compliment each other to work harmoniously. That would make for so much of a better world to live in.
Cindy
If nothing else maybe it teaches people to do a little more research before spouting off about just why there are stereotypes and psychological differences in how the female and male brain works and how both can compliment each other to work harmoniously. That would make for so much of a better world to live in.
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: soldierjane on January 02, 2009, 08:49:31 AM
Post by: soldierjane on January 02, 2009, 08:49:31 AM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on December 31, 2008, 07:16:31 PMQuote from: Starbuck on December 31, 2008, 02:21:03 PMQuote from: Rene' aka candygirl on December 31, 2008, 12:36:54 PMIm afraid that is the voice of someone with the option and of treatment talking.... You got treatment... you can say that... for some of us... it was our only option... our only way of survival...
Do Not self diagnose or self medicate. Way to much bunkum and misinformation is swirling around out there...Don't be taken in by any of it.
Agreed. I'd add that I don't really believe there's anything better out there than self-diagnosis. That is, it would be great if we could all see qualified gender therapists, but the qualifications that make a therapist qualified are rather vague. I trust my therapist -- she has a lot of experience with trans issues -- but I hear so many people who have problems with theirs. When I read the DSM standard for GID, it is hardly different than self-diagnosis anyway.
That was a big part of the reason that Reitz wrote the cogiati -- because there isn't any good diagnostic method other than self-diagnosis.
~Alyssa
I agree with this. Self-diagnosis is the best of tools in determining which path one must take. If not then you have those wackos who, after having SRS, go out and spit fire that their thereapist and the community made them do it. Puh-leeze.
I didn't agree with the stereotypical view of the COGIATI myself either, but it did add to my already strong suspicion that I was TS rather than merely TG.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Shana A on January 03, 2009, 09:36:09 AM
Post by: Shana A on January 03, 2009, 09:36:09 AM
OK, I finally got curious after reading numerous threads about it here and took the test. IMO, many of the questions are based on stereotypical views of being male or female. That said, I did my best to answer the questions honestly and accurately.
My results:
Your COGIATI result value is: 160 Which means that you fall within the following category:
COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL
What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially feminine, but with some masculine or androgynous traits. It is very possible that you are a candidate for a diagnosis of transsexualism. You show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. At the very least, further investigation should be undertaken. Your COGIATI score places you among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' tanssexual.
SUGGESTIONS FOR ACTION:
Your situation is potentially serious and indicative of a probable inborn gender conflict. It is definitely recommended that you pursue further action.
The suggestions for your circumstance are several.
1.
It is recommended that you seek help from a sympathetic counselor or professional about your gender issues. It is very possible that over time they will become increasingly difficult to cope with. Early determination of what you really need and want is vital. You need to determine if you truly are transsexual. Keep in mind, thought, that many alternatives exist other than complete sexual transformation. Partial transformation and many other way of existing are available. While you are very possibly a transsexual, COGIATI has determined that this is not absolutely certain. While time is an issue, being certain is more important. Proceed with investigation of your possible transsexuality or ->-bleeped-<-, but with caution.
2.
Some actions may help you to define your needs more clearly. Experimenting with living full time as a woman, taking hormones for a short time under supervision, or taking testosterone suppressers to observe how you feel are all viable options. Keep in mind that while it is very likely that you might be a transsexual, it is not certain. Do not take severe or permanent actions without long thought and the help of counselors and professionals.
3.
Your gender issues are real, and should not be ignored. Neither should you rush into acting on them, however powerful they may feel. You do not fit the full criterion for the rarest classification, classic transsexuality, and so should be cautious, and open to possibilities. You may yet end up undergoing transition, and the path of the transsexual may well be your salvation. Be very careful, but do not ignore your issues.
4.
If you have not already, consider joining any of the thousands of groups devoted to gender expression of various kinds. There is literally a world of friends to discover who share your interests. There are also publications, vacations, and activities that would expand your gender expression.
My results:
Your COGIATI result value is: 160 Which means that you fall within the following category:
COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL
What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially feminine, but with some masculine or androgynous traits. It is very possible that you are a candidate for a diagnosis of transsexualism. You show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. At the very least, further investigation should be undertaken. Your COGIATI score places you among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' tanssexual.
SUGGESTIONS FOR ACTION:
Your situation is potentially serious and indicative of a probable inborn gender conflict. It is definitely recommended that you pursue further action.
The suggestions for your circumstance are several.
1.
It is recommended that you seek help from a sympathetic counselor or professional about your gender issues. It is very possible that over time they will become increasingly difficult to cope with. Early determination of what you really need and want is vital. You need to determine if you truly are transsexual. Keep in mind, thought, that many alternatives exist other than complete sexual transformation. Partial transformation and many other way of existing are available. While you are very possibly a transsexual, COGIATI has determined that this is not absolutely certain. While time is an issue, being certain is more important. Proceed with investigation of your possible transsexuality or ->-bleeped-<-, but with caution.
2.
Some actions may help you to define your needs more clearly. Experimenting with living full time as a woman, taking hormones for a short time under supervision, or taking testosterone suppressers to observe how you feel are all viable options. Keep in mind that while it is very likely that you might be a transsexual, it is not certain. Do not take severe or permanent actions without long thought and the help of counselors and professionals.
3.
Your gender issues are real, and should not be ignored. Neither should you rush into acting on them, however powerful they may feel. You do not fit the full criterion for the rarest classification, classic transsexuality, and so should be cautious, and open to possibilities. You may yet end up undergoing transition, and the path of the transsexual may well be your salvation. Be very careful, but do not ignore your issues.
4.
If you have not already, consider joining any of the thousands of groups devoted to gender expression of various kinds. There is literally a world of friends to discover who share your interests. There are also publications, vacations, and activities that would expand your gender expression.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Julie Marie on January 03, 2009, 10:30:34 AM
Post by: Julie Marie on January 03, 2009, 10:30:34 AM
I took the COGIATI years ago and I scored pretty high, in the "transsexual" range. I knew it was just an online test and not anything you hang your hat on but still, when I saw the score, I cried. I already knew I was TS but didn't want to even think about it because of all I'd lose. Once I saw the results I knew I was eventually going to have to face it and that I'd lose a lot if I decided I had to transition.
As I sat there crying my daughter came up to me and said, "What's wrong Daddy?" I almost lost it because I knew I would soon disrupt her world and the world of my sons and nothing would ever be the same.
Today all three of my kids have chosen a life without me. When I look back at that day I wonder what I would have done had I known what the final outcome would have been.
Julie
As I sat there crying my daughter came up to me and said, "What's wrong Daddy?" I almost lost it because I knew I would soon disrupt her world and the world of my sons and nothing would ever be the same.
Today all three of my kids have chosen a life without me. When I look back at that day I wonder what I would have done had I known what the final outcome would have been.
Julie
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on January 03, 2009, 03:03:59 PM
Post by: cindybc on January 03, 2009, 03:03:59 PM
Hi Julie Marie, Do I know you? Wow you certainly a good looker. I quite agree with what you have said, I lost three kids but that was even before, several years before I started transitioning. I count myself fortunate that I did have the opportunity to touch base with my three kids before they left home to make their own lives.
Me it was all those years before I even knew what transsexuality was and even thought about transitioning was where my hell hole of a life took place. Transitioning was my salvation. The past 9 years have been my happiest, I wouldn't want to change anything, all was as it was supposed to be. Well the only thing I would change, is to be born with the right body to start with.
Cindy
Me it was all those years before I even knew what transsexuality was and even thought about transitioning was where my hell hole of a life took place. Transitioning was my salvation. The past 9 years have been my happiest, I wouldn't want to change anything, all was as it was supposed to be. Well the only thing I would change, is to be born with the right body to start with.
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Wendy C on January 04, 2009, 09:40:02 PM
Post by: Wendy C on January 04, 2009, 09:40:02 PM
I took it about a year ago and ended up scoring high in TS range, but then again it was only out of curiositys sake as I already knew I was transsexual having been diagnosed 30 years ago and still turned away. I am a early childhood TS so these tests are just for fun for me. I do believe that one first looking into their transsexuality might be guided into seeking professional help and if for that, it has a useful purpose. Hugs
Wendy
Wendy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Kim6 on January 04, 2009, 10:13:32 PM
Post by: Kim6 on January 04, 2009, 10:13:32 PM
I took it a long time ago knowing that I could modify my answers to get a higher score so with that in mind I tried to be as accurate as possible. The score I got was just inside of the transsexual range. After I had been on hormones for several years I re-took the test while being as accurate as possible however I scored significantly higher.
I feel that on some level I may have been shamed out of being as feminine as I might have been otherwise, certainly my mother did try to shame me into being more masculine along with dad wanting to make a man out of me. But I also feel that as a biological organism, having estrogen in my body and cutting out the testosterone affected how I thought, felt and experienced life and myself. I remember thinking how transition changed my sexual orientation to liking males and then later on I remembered how I had liked males when I was younger but being raised the way I was I had gone into denial. Funny what life does to us.
I feel that on some level I may have been shamed out of being as feminine as I might have been otherwise, certainly my mother did try to shame me into being more masculine along with dad wanting to make a man out of me. But I also feel that as a biological organism, having estrogen in my body and cutting out the testosterone affected how I thought, felt and experienced life and myself. I remember thinking how transition changed my sexual orientation to liking males and then later on I remembered how I had liked males when I was younger but being raised the way I was I had gone into denial. Funny what life does to us.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Vexing on January 04, 2009, 10:48:00 PM
Post by: Vexing on January 04, 2009, 10:48:00 PM
My bf took the test for lulz; apparently he's androgynous.
Like hell he is!
Just shows that the test is ridiculously biased towards MtFs and makes no allowance for anyone else.
Like hell he is!
Just shows that the test is ridiculously biased towards MtFs and makes no allowance for anyone else.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: tekla on January 04, 2009, 11:26:17 PM
Post by: tekla on January 04, 2009, 11:26:17 PM
Like hell he is!
Ya never know. Even plants have secret lives, so says Stevie Wonder. People, often amaze me even more than plants do.
Ya never know. Even plants have secret lives, so says Stevie Wonder. People, often amaze me even more than plants do.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Rachael on January 05, 2009, 12:38:22 AM
Post by: Rachael on January 05, 2009, 12:38:22 AM
Its kinda amusing... i rated 'probable transsexual' Most likely late transitioner XD its not bias to m2f... its bias to Male crossdressers...
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: tekla on January 05, 2009, 12:55:38 AM
Post by: tekla on January 05, 2009, 12:55:38 AM
Funny how everyone seems to think its biased (as all such assessments are) but can't agree on what the bias is.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Rachael on January 05, 2009, 01:01:07 AM
Post by: Rachael on January 05, 2009, 01:01:07 AM
Well as 99% of the questions deal with dressing up 'as' a woman, sexual feeling, male feeling, and treat the testee as a crossdresser... isnt it safe to assume its bias towards CDs?
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: cindybc on January 05, 2009, 01:02:41 AM
Post by: cindybc on January 05, 2009, 01:02:41 AM
If one looks at each question a pattern will emerge. Each answer can then be chosen to express an actual or desired profile thereby determining the test results. It's like playing "Jeopardy." Many answers are within the questions.
This test could easily be geared or converted to suit a F-M just by altering the gender of the question, and yes it was not set up for cross dressers, what so ever.
Cindy
This test could easily be geared or converted to suit a F-M just by altering the gender of the question, and yes it was not set up for cross dressers, what so ever.
Cindy
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: jaymie on January 05, 2009, 02:40:16 PM
Post by: jaymie on January 05, 2009, 02:40:16 PM
Just took the test and scored 315 classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL...just one more indication that i should maybe talk to a therapist about my gender issues :-\. It's not perfect but it is fun and maybe it can be built on and improved and become a useful tool in diagnosis.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Dark on January 11, 2009, 06:53:34 AM
Post by: Dark on January 11, 2009, 06:53:34 AM
Quote from: tekla on December 30, 2008, 06:14:25 AM
It's an internet piece of junk. It says nothing really. You get the results you want. Because everyone lies, even to them selves taking test like this. There is NO predictive value in the results.
THANK YOU! ..I took this crappy test over a year and a half ago when I was still pretty new to researching all this transgender stuff and trying to really figure out who I was exactly.. and I knew then how bad it was. It basically just asks how much like a crappy stereotype of a woman are you? ..not that anyone who is like this stereotype is automatically crappy lol :P ..I just mean that the stereotype is crap.
And yes, it's pretty obvious what answers will get you closer to the "female" score. That's not to say that everyone lies to get the score they want.. but I'm sure there's a lot of that going on.
My score was something like.. Androgyn.. and it said that I probably shouldn't transition.. err something pretty much like that. I can't remember exactly what it said. Anyway, while I wasn't sure of my gender at the time, I answered truthfully, and I'm sure I'd probably still get the same result even though I now know my gender is female.
The answer the test gave me kind of made figuring myself out harder because even though I knew it was bogus.. it put a little more doubt in my mind about who I really was. So I think this test can actually be harmful to some people.
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Rachael on January 11, 2009, 10:55:28 AM
Post by: Rachael on January 11, 2009, 10:55:28 AM
The only thing it can predict with any accuracy is how much of a crossdresser are you?
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: francoise on January 12, 2009, 02:01:36 AM
Post by: francoise on January 12, 2009, 02:01:36 AM
I got 185 (probable ts)
Although I knew it is just a test for fun, I enjoyed being confirmed as a ts ...
It fitted pretty well where I am now (pre-op under androcur) but, if I wasn't so found of maths, I believe I would have scored higher as classis ts >:-)
Francoise
Although I knew it is just a test for fun, I enjoyed being confirmed as a ts ...
It fitted pretty well where I am now (pre-op under androcur) but, if I wasn't so found of maths, I believe I would have scored higher as classis ts >:-)
Francoise
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Rachael on January 12, 2009, 08:25:01 AM
Post by: Rachael on January 12, 2009, 08:25:01 AM
Looks like my housemate is a closset F2M!
Shes doing her masters degree in math.... oh noes, Trend bucker!
Shes doing her masters degree in math.... oh noes, Trend bucker!
Title: Re: So, who has taken the COGIATI Test?
Post by: Janet_Girl on January 12, 2009, 11:23:47 AM
Post by: Janet_Girl on January 12, 2009, 11:23:47 AM
Very interesting. I took it for a lark. And after taking it, I scored a 'Probable Transsexual 80% Female". But I realized that there is a fix. By reviewing the questions, one can easily choose the answer to lead to the desired result.
Test like these only lead people into trouble.
Janet
Test like these only lead people into trouble.
Janet