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Title: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 02, 2009, 07:05:54 PM
Post by: icontact on January 02, 2009, 07:05:54 PM
Soooo. About a month and some weeks ago I asked my mother for a buzzcut. She...flipped out.
BUT, looking back at the conversation, it started out like this:
Me: I want a haircut.
Her: How short?
Me: Uhh. Shorter than what I have now. [I have a ponytail.]
Her: Like short for two ponytails?
Me: Shorter.
Her: Okay well I could do a little shorter, but what do you mean?
Me: Like Adam. [my brother]
Her: -flipout-
So what I'm thinking is, since I have terrifically curly hair, I could just cut it cut to the length that she was still okay with before I said like Adam, and try to pull a Corbin Bleu. Well, not that big of an afro, but about 2/3rds the length. Maybe show her a few pictures of some girls with afros to make it "acceptable." Then she'd think I'd still look like a girl with an afro, but I won't. But it's okay cause she won't figure that out until after it's gone. ;D
I've never had my hair that short, well I have, but I never wore it down, so I don't know how it would look. What do you guys think? That's me in my avatar pic, and I can scrounge up more pics if you need.
Thanks. :)
BUT, looking back at the conversation, it started out like this:
Me: I want a haircut.
Her: How short?
Me: Uhh. Shorter than what I have now. [I have a ponytail.]
Her: Like short for two ponytails?
Me: Shorter.
Her: Okay well I could do a little shorter, but what do you mean?
Me: Like Adam. [my brother]
Her: -flipout-
So what I'm thinking is, since I have terrifically curly hair, I could just cut it cut to the length that she was still okay with before I said like Adam, and try to pull a Corbin Bleu. Well, not that big of an afro, but about 2/3rds the length. Maybe show her a few pictures of some girls with afros to make it "acceptable." Then she'd think I'd still look like a girl with an afro, but I won't. But it's okay cause she won't figure that out until after it's gone. ;D
I've never had my hair that short, well I have, but I never wore it down, so I don't know how it would look. What do you guys think? That's me in my avatar pic, and I can scrounge up more pics if you need.
Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2009, 07:13:53 PM
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2009, 07:13:53 PM
go to a barber, they will do what ever you pay them to do.+
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 02, 2009, 07:18:33 PM
Post by: icontact on January 02, 2009, 07:18:33 PM
If it were just a problem of getting the haircut done, I could've just stolen my father's clippers and done it months ago. I'm still a minor, and thus getting a haircut without approval will mean lots of bad consequences.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: JonasCarminis on January 02, 2009, 07:19:54 PM
Post by: JonasCarminis on January 02, 2009, 07:19:54 PM
how long do you have till youre 18?
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2009, 07:20:57 PM
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2009, 07:20:57 PM
In my case it came from not having cut my hair for four years. But WTF could they do. I left home at 17 at any rate. Never looked back, parents came around.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 02, 2009, 07:25:35 PM
Post by: icontact on January 02, 2009, 07:25:35 PM
Chet: Long enough that I might as well try asking for a compromised haircut. >.>
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Jeatyn on January 02, 2009, 07:36:01 PM
Post by: Jeatyn on January 02, 2009, 07:36:01 PM
I love Corbin Bleu <3
now thats out of the way =P the actual reply, it sounds good to me, even moderately short is gonna look better than really long
I was never one to listen to the parents, I woulda grabbed some scissors and chopped it all off way before now without even considering asking
now thats out of the way =P the actual reply, it sounds good to me, even moderately short is gonna look better than really long
I was never one to listen to the parents, I woulda grabbed some scissors and chopped it all off way before now without even considering asking
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Mr. Fox on January 02, 2009, 08:08:17 PM
Post by: Mr. Fox on January 02, 2009, 08:08:17 PM
Personally, I would pull a tekla and just go get it cut. You don't have to have ID at the barber's. Then again, I don't really care about pleasing my parents, and they would not care. Heck, lately they've been bugging me to get a haircut. Well, anyway, it's probably best to get them used to you defying their rule now. Preparation for your eventual adulthood, transition, and hopefully your autonomy.
Adrian
Adrian
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: J.T. on January 02, 2009, 08:12:27 PM
Post by: J.T. on January 02, 2009, 08:12:27 PM
QuoteI'm still a minor, and thus getting a haircut without approval will mean lots of bad consequences.
uh... huh? it is your hair. not like you're getting a tattoo. i've never heard of needing approval to get a haircut.
go to a supercuts etc. and ask them to buzz it off. one around here will give a buzz cut for 10 bucks.
hair grows back, hopefully.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Osiris on January 02, 2009, 08:30:25 PM
Post by: Osiris on January 02, 2009, 08:30:25 PM
Yeah I didn't know about the being a minor thing. I've been able to get haircuts on my own since I started working, 16.
But you might wanna try what you're thinking anyway. Getting your hair cut too short can make you look more feminine.
But you might wanna try what you're thinking anyway. Getting your hair cut too short can make you look more feminine.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 02, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Post by: icontact on January 02, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Minor thing being that I still live with my extreme anti-gay/trans parents, and they can make life extremely difficult. They already did when I asked for the buzz, and that wasn't even getting it, just asking.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: milliontoone on January 02, 2009, 10:22:05 PM
Post by: milliontoone on January 02, 2009, 10:22:05 PM
Well in your profile picture I think you look quite masculine but then I suppose you are hiding your hair. I dunno maybe that could be the answer, not ideal but a compromise until you move out.
If you really cannot bear it my advice to you is just do it. But do try and get permission from your peeps first, I know first hand how much trouble it can cause if you don't and I'm sure that's the last thing you need right now.
If you really cannot bear it my advice to you is just do it. But do try and get permission from your peeps first, I know first hand how much trouble it can cause if you don't and I'm sure that's the last thing you need right now.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: GnomeKid on January 02, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
Post by: GnomeKid on January 02, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
get a stoner cut....
looks masculine without it being ultra short... for me this really helps to hide some of the more female facial features
The cut can be perceived as feminine enough by parents if worn a certain way but if you shake it out its quite masculine.
Your face is quite masculine in your pic with your hair out of your face so it wouldn't be an issue for you I suppose, but personally I hate it when they cut my hair to short. Makes me look like a butch lesbian as opposed to a dude.
looks masculine without it being ultra short... for me this really helps to hide some of the more female facial features
The cut can be perceived as feminine enough by parents if worn a certain way but if you shake it out its quite masculine.
Your face is quite masculine in your pic with your hair out of your face so it wouldn't be an issue for you I suppose, but personally I hate it when they cut my hair to short. Makes me look like a butch lesbian as opposed to a dude.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Reese on January 02, 2009, 11:38:54 PM
Post by: Reese on January 02, 2009, 11:38:54 PM
I understand your issue completely. I used to have hair down to my ass: my mother ruled my life, still does in some ways, and she's entirely anti-trans. Trying to get my hair cut short without having her freak out on me? It was tough, but I finally managed to get short hair that I'm comfortable with.
Saying that you want it THAT short straight off, while blunt, probably won't help you much in long run. I had to let my mother cut my hair of inch by inch, and with each inch, I had to convince her that it was the right thing to do. If you're not nearly as sissy as I am (heeey, I love my mother) then I say go with everyone else in this thread: just get it chopped off yourself and get ready for the consequences. They'll probably ride themselves out with time. After all, hair grows back. But if you want your mother to be on board with it, then be patient, because some compromises will have to be made.
Saying that you want it THAT short straight off, while blunt, probably won't help you much in long run. I had to let my mother cut my hair of inch by inch, and with each inch, I had to convince her that it was the right thing to do. If you're not nearly as sissy as I am (heeey, I love my mother) then I say go with everyone else in this thread: just get it chopped off yourself and get ready for the consequences. They'll probably ride themselves out with time. After all, hair grows back. But if you want your mother to be on board with it, then be patient, because some compromises will have to be made.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Sophie90 on January 03, 2009, 04:11:03 AM
Post by: Sophie90 on January 03, 2009, 04:11:03 AM
I cut my own hair, because I just win like that.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 03, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
Post by: icontact on January 03, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
So I afro-ed out my hair as is just now, and it looks pretty good, despite it being too long and a bit lopsided. I feel pretty bada** too. ;D Am leaving it like that for the rest of the day to see how my mother reacts. :-\
Wish me luck.
Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: noxdraconis on January 03, 2009, 05:52:11 PM
Post by: noxdraconis on January 03, 2009, 05:52:11 PM
Good luck! ;) Hope your parents see reason.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Osiris on January 03, 2009, 08:26:01 PM
Post by: Osiris on January 03, 2009, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: freespeechz on January 03, 2009, 05:41:53 PMpix dude pix!!! :P
So I afro-ed out my hair as is just now, and it looks pretty good, despite it being too long and a bit lopsided. I feel pretty bada** too. ;D Am leaving it like that for the rest of the day to see how my mother reacts. :-\
Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 03, 2009, 10:16:11 PM
Post by: icontact on January 03, 2009, 10:16:11 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi485.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr215%2Ffrom-ashes-to-asher%2Ffro099.jpg&hash=b5e326094f552dbde69eed89b18410d3449e0458)
Turns out she doesn't even care about how it looks gender wise. She's just a racist little b*tch and doesn't like it because it makes me look too black.
Oh honestly that woman could die and I wouldn't care. Probably might even be pleased.
Turns out she doesn't even care about how it looks gender wise. She's just a racist little b*tch and doesn't like it because it makes me look too black.
Oh honestly that woman could die and I wouldn't care. Probably might even be pleased.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Osiris on January 03, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
Post by: Osiris on January 03, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
Too bad your mom doesn't like it. You rock the fro... And that's not an easy thing to do. :P
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Randy on January 03, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Post by: Randy on January 03, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Osiris on January 03, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
Too bad your mom doesn't like it. You rock the fro... And that's not an easy thing to do. :P
I second that.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: noxdraconis on January 04, 2009, 12:55:47 AM
Post by: noxdraconis on January 04, 2009, 12:55:47 AM
Quote from: Osiris on January 03, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
Too bad your mom doesn't like it. You rock the fro... And that's not an easy thing to do. :P
I concur. You look totally awesome with it. Just do it anyways.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Jamie-o on January 04, 2009, 12:56:22 AM
Post by: Jamie-o on January 04, 2009, 12:56:22 AM
Quote from: Randy on January 03, 2009, 10:35:15 PMQuote from: Osiris on January 03, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
Too bad your mom doesn't like it. You rock the fro... And that's not an easy thing to do. :P
I second that.
I'll third it. The look suits you.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: cindybc on January 04, 2009, 01:02:39 AM
Post by: cindybc on January 04, 2009, 01:02:39 AM
Hi Jamie-o your avatar looks like a shrink I use to know.
Cindy
Cindy
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Jamie-o on January 04, 2009, 01:06:06 AM
Post by: Jamie-o on January 04, 2009, 01:06:06 AM
Quote from: cindybc on January 04, 2009, 01:02:39 AM
Hi Jamie-o your avatar looks like a shrink I use to know.
Cindy
And did you think he was cute? ;) lol
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: cindybc on January 04, 2009, 01:08:42 AM
Post by: cindybc on January 04, 2009, 01:08:42 AM
Yep very much so. He was my shrink when I was living in Ontario for 9 years. Getting a we bit of grey on the temples and beard now though still makes him look distinguished.
Cindy
Cindy
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Dennis on January 04, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
Post by: Dennis on January 04, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
Quote from: Jamie-o on January 04, 2009, 12:56:22 AMQuote from: Randy on January 03, 2009, 10:35:15 PMQuote from: Osiris on January 03, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
Too bad your mom doesn't like it. You rock the fro... And that's not an easy thing to do. :P
I second that.
I'll third it. The look suits you.
Vote four in for that as well. Wow, you have fantastic hair, and that look really does look great, and it's very masculine for a guy your age.
Dennis
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Reese on January 04, 2009, 11:08:19 AM
Post by: Reese on January 04, 2009, 11:08:19 AM
Ach, now, I hate to see someone wish that on their mother, no matter how deserved it is. Sorry she doesn't agree with it, but in my opinion: NICE.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Camden on January 04, 2009, 10:03:01 PM
Post by: Camden on January 04, 2009, 10:03:01 PM
Dude your hair is GREAT like that. You will get chicks all day long!
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: DRAIN on January 04, 2009, 10:28:06 PM
Post by: DRAIN on January 04, 2009, 10:28:06 PM
i fifth the awesome fro sentiment ;D
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 05, 2009, 03:44:45 AM
Post by: icontact on January 05, 2009, 03:44:45 AM
Hahaha, thanks guys. :) I'm not so upset about my mother being uncooperative now. I counted my blessings and realized that I am a lot further down the transition line than plenty of other guys and there was no point in lingering. -shrugs- I pass alright anyways, 100% with a beanie on, and without, that awkward stage where people aren't really sure but will believe you if you say you're a guy.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: J.T. on January 05, 2009, 07:24:09 PM
Post by: J.T. on January 05, 2009, 07:24:09 PM
that's a killer 'do, and great attitude about your mom. you won't have to deal with her much longer in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Dante on January 06, 2009, 08:23:41 PM
Post by: Dante on January 06, 2009, 08:23:41 PM
Awesome fro! You look like a BA!!!
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Ender on January 06, 2009, 09:18:18 PM
Post by: Ender on January 06, 2009, 09:18:18 PM
The 'fro is friggin' awesome on you. If my overly thick hair gets too long, it likes to tie itself up in a thick fro-like thing on top of my head... terrible, looks like a toupee or a squirrel sleeping on my head. But you look 100% dude (albeit young) with some really sweet hair. Does it take a long time to get it into a 'fro?
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Jay on January 07, 2009, 03:03:46 AM
Post by: Jay on January 07, 2009, 03:03:46 AM
Looks awesome dude!
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 07, 2009, 07:55:21 PM
Post by: icontact on January 07, 2009, 07:55:21 PM
Quote from: Eryk on January 06, 2009, 09:18:18 PM
The 'fro is friggin' awesome on you. If my overly thick hair gets too long, it likes to tie itself up in a thick fro-like thing on top of my head... terrible, looks like a toupee or a squirrel sleeping on my head. But you look 100% dude (albeit young) with some really sweet hair. Does it take a long time to get it into a 'fro?
No, my hair's already naturally curly, so it only takes about two/three minutes in the shower to comb it straight outwards, which will make it go pooooof.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Osiris on January 07, 2009, 08:06:53 PM
Post by: Osiris on January 07, 2009, 08:06:53 PM
If you're gonna get a great fro you gotta get yourself a hair pick. It's essential to a great fro.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 07, 2009, 09:51:26 PM
Post by: icontact on January 07, 2009, 09:51:26 PM
-shrugs- I don't like picks. They just don't cooperate with me. A standard comb works just fine. :)
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Osiris on January 07, 2009, 10:34:21 PM
Post by: Osiris on January 07, 2009, 10:34:21 PM
You are but a learner my friend. Once embrace the power of the hair pick you shall be the master.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg301.imageshack.us%2Fimg301%2F88%2Fbadlyshopped1si.gif&hash=c98441fa4195c20254de13cd913f41a677c4f4a6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg301.imageshack.us%2Fimg301%2F88%2Fbadlyshopped1si.gif&hash=c98441fa4195c20254de13cd913f41a677c4f4a6)
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: icontact on January 07, 2009, 11:21:41 PM
Post by: icontact on January 07, 2009, 11:21:41 PM
-snorts at pic- ;D
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: DannyTy on January 09, 2009, 10:23:06 AM
Post by: DannyTy on January 09, 2009, 10:23:06 AM
(Hi, I'm new here!)
You and I have the same kind of hair. Yeah, I could have combed it out and rocked that fro (and have before... It is pretty bada**, yeah.) The worst thing about having such curly hair is when I cut it down to about ear length, I looked EXTREMELY feminine. I was pissed. So, I went a little crazy with a pair of scissors, and I cut it all off. You're probably better off not cutting it ear-short, though. Lots of dudes who have our kind of hair wear it longer. Granted, they're usually Hispanic, but still. Your face is androgynous enough that I'm sure you rock it. When you finally can get it cut really short, I'd say go for about half an inch. I just cut mine about that short, and it looks (okay, it feels... it doesn't look because I cut it myself out of irritation and did a horrible job) amazing.
You and I have the same kind of hair. Yeah, I could have combed it out and rocked that fro (and have before... It is pretty bada**, yeah.) The worst thing about having such curly hair is when I cut it down to about ear length, I looked EXTREMELY feminine. I was pissed. So, I went a little crazy with a pair of scissors, and I cut it all off. You're probably better off not cutting it ear-short, though. Lots of dudes who have our kind of hair wear it longer. Granted, they're usually Hispanic, but still. Your face is androgynous enough that I'm sure you rock it. When you finally can get it cut really short, I'd say go for about half an inch. I just cut mine about that short, and it looks (okay, it feels... it doesn't look because I cut it myself out of irritation and did a horrible job) amazing.
Title: Re: Trying to bargain for a haircut.
Post by: Chamillion on January 09, 2009, 12:47:22 PM
Post by: Chamillion on January 09, 2009, 12:47:22 PM
the fro looks awesome mate!