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Title: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: KatieSteph on January 09, 2009, 02:45:14 AM
First time doing this and posting online, tell me honest opinions, can I pass, do I look too bulky etc...

If this is wrong forum to post please move this.

Thanks

Katie

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Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: lizbeth on January 09, 2009, 02:59:37 AM
hi KatieSteph, way to jump right in and stuff, lol

I think you look pretty good, there are some feminine triats there for sure. I think you can even tone down the makeup a tad too, it almost appears you are trying to hide behind a mask. practice makes perfect and don't forget to SMILE!!!

passing is relative and depends on more than pictures, but judging by appearance alone I would think female at first glance. there is nothing wrong with being "bulky" that doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: KatieSteph on January 09, 2009, 03:09:13 AM
HEy Eliza, thanks for the quick reply.  I actually have been doing this for a while...  never been out though.

WHich are feminie traits and which aren't and what could I work on?  I know I did a heavy makeup look because I enjoy that, not that I'm hiding behind a mask lol.  I can do a light makeup, just usually like the colors.  I didn't smile because I wanted a neutral picture, I guess I have lots to work on =(

Thanks for the comments =)
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: vanna on January 09, 2009, 03:26:15 AM
Hey hunny

started hrt yet?

makes a big difference especially to muscle bulk, i can see a time you pass easily i honestly can but you need to slim down in my humble opinion if you wish to dress that way.

Learn Yoga and Pilate's and feminise your muscle mass :)

p.s yes heavy make-up usually makes you look like a t-girl, I'm sure others will disagree though :)
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: je on January 09, 2009, 03:31:36 AM
QuoteLearn Yoga and Pilate's and feminise your muscle mass :)

Seconded.

It looks like you don't have a particularly heavy brow, but then again you also seem to be of Asian ethnicity -- which would make it more expected.
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: KatieSteph on January 09, 2009, 03:44:07 AM
Yeah I know the muscle mass thing... lol

No HRT, to be honest I'm not sure what I am..... I've been reading these forums and other sites for years...  One thing though, I do enjoy being like this, though do I *need* this, is another unanswered question....  but that's for another topic on another day...

So how exactly would you tone down the makeup, I am sort of purposely doing heavy makeup, because I like it... what other tips can anyone give me, other than my muscle mass lol....

How's the legs?  Waist?  Most importantly the face?  I could wear like sweaters, blouse with slacks or skirts if the muscle is too much but that is least of my concern right now...

Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Nicky on January 09, 2009, 03:45:34 AM
You look good katie. I can't tell if you would 'pass' because I have already been primed.

The last one on the couch I like the most, except it looks like you have a bit of shadow on you upperlip. I think that's the one thing I really noticed. You are fairly broad but that did not pop out to me.
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: heatherrose on January 09, 2009, 05:46:22 AM
Hey Girl,

YOU LOOK GREAT!

Something to remember by repeating to yourself,
as you're going through your preparations is,

LESS IS MORE

Trust me, I know the angst you're feeling about being able
to turn yourself into the perfect vision of femininity.
What is PERFECT femininity? And how do you attain it?
There are millions of GG's that would also like to know.
I don't know the path your on but if your looking to
go fulltime, practise to achieve your fulltime look.
I love the glam and sexy stuff just as much as the next girl.
In the everyday world it's just not practical and it draws attention.
Attention at this point on your path is not something you want.
Size, really has nothing to do with passabilty, selfconfidence is the key.
Work on preparing yourself to walk down the street
and blend in with a group of women by watching women of you size.
Their everyday clothes their everyday walk and mannerisms
and save the glam for clubing when you have more confidence.
You'll know you look fabulous and wont care to ask others how you look.
Look at me, I'm an old trucker hag of 43, 5'8", 180lb.
With guns and hands like a linebacker and I KNOW I look good
I get hit on (BLUSH) all the time and I haven't been SIRed in years.

                                                                                       Always Love,
                                                                                       Heather rose

P.S. Don't worry about your legs,
           THEY'RE AWSOME!
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Sophie90 on January 09, 2009, 09:08:22 AM
I think you pass pretty well. :)


I love your dress by the way, and the shoes.
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Eva Marie on January 09, 2009, 12:49:24 PM
I think that the asian or whatever ethnicity helps a lot, gives you an exotic look that works nicely  :)

I think you look fine.
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: VeryGnawty on January 09, 2009, 01:01:44 PM
Open up more.  You have your arms crossed in every shot.  It makes you look like you're hiding something.

Someone once told me that passing is 80% attitude, and 20% looks.  Don't forget to smile and have fun.
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: KatieSteph on January 09, 2009, 06:07:55 PM
thanks, makes me happy that I look somewhat feminine...

my dress and makeup appearance was intended to look a bit for clubbing/night look, not really daily wear to office or mall shopping etc.

Last night I did try a daring thing and was a bit scared but was a good feeling...  I was like this and went down the elevator to the parking lot to my car to grab something and came back, no one saw me but there were security cameras though hehe

I wonder if someone was coming on the elevator with me or pass by me when I got off, would they question or know or care....
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: BrandiOK on January 09, 2009, 07:12:23 PM
You sound so much like me several years ago.  Don't worry about the muscle mass I happen to think muscular women are very attractive.  You have soooo much going for you!  Asian girls, in my opinion, often have a huge advantage because their natural features are more feminine than masculine.  My only advice is relax a little and enjoy yourself.  You'll be surprised how much your overall feminine appearance will improve just by relaxing and 'flowing' more.  Overall you look great :)  Have fun!
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Laura Eva B on January 09, 2009, 08:56:53 PM
Katie Steph,

Can I just agree that the pics look good, you have a really nice face, and the wig suits you and looks natural despite its length.

Just that your legs DON'T work with such a short dress ... way too muscular / masculine ...

Otherwise no reason you shouldn't pass.

But passing is all about confidence and attitude.  It takes time, guts, practice to get out there and "live" ... give it a go - take baby steps first !

I'm no beauty and feel there's so much to give me away, but passing anything other than absolutely has not been an issue with me for over three years (even had boyfriends who never knew, and I seem to pick up at least one new guy a week ...  ::) ... ), it really is all about being extrovert and believing in yourself.

Honestly ...

And yes, figure and "deportment" are as important as facial looks ... getting rid of muscle and excess body weight goes without saying.

Laura x

Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Janet_Girl on January 09, 2009, 09:18:33 PM
OK who let the GG in here.

Katie,  You are very pretty, but why is it so hard for new girls to smile.  And uncross those hands.

And like the others have said and I always say it is all about "Attitude".
I like the dress, but the shoes don't work with your muscular legs.

And if you had run into anyone, they would only see a young lady.  ;D

Janet

Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: KatieSteph on January 09, 2009, 09:40:03 PM
Thanks all, keep more suggestions coming.. I might try to go out to get fuel from gas station tonight... would be fun!
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Osiris on January 09, 2009, 09:53:01 PM
HOT!

You rock that whole look. 2 thumbs up. ;)
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: heatherrose on January 10, 2009, 01:21:28 AM
Dammit Jim...We can't all be Twiggy! We play the hand we're delt.
As do GG's. Some of us will NEVER be small, without doing harm to ourselves.
ALL of us, GG or not, use clothes to hide what we feel are our phyical faults and
accentuate what we consider our assets. Wide shoulders and thick DANCER'S legs?
Snug bodice (not tight), loose in the shoulders or a drape of some sort and a flared skirt.
It gives the appearance of an narrower waist. If you like, the skirt could be longish worn with boots.

Wah-laa! Faults hidden, Assets accentuated.

                                                                                    Always Love,
                                                                                    Heather Rose
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: whatsername on January 10, 2009, 01:50:30 AM
I think you look very pretty, and I agree with Heather about the legs.  They're fabulous!  I've known bio girls who are dancers or sprinters who have legs like that, I don't think they're necessarily a "tell". 

You definitely look feminine but more so in some of these pictures than others.  I would probably suspect you were a CD or Trans, but then I live in the Bay Area, in areas of the country where trans-folk aren't as common I bet you would pass just fine.  The broader shoulders could be explained by water polo, but your arm muscles read distinctly masculine for me.  If you're worried about passing I would say a long sleeved black shirt (or dress) might help that alot.
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Cindy on January 10, 2009, 03:31:35 AM
Hi
I think you look great, but agree with the other comments. Like a lot of TGs we want to look like supermodels. DUHH. Look like a women of your age. Look at the fashions GGs are wearing and why. I went to the mall today wearing a T-shirt, 3/4 pants, flat, but in style shoes, no one made a comment. Felt great being normal.

I could not have done this a few weeks ago
Susan's people you ROCK


LoL
Cindy J
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Rita Irene on January 10, 2009, 07:37:44 AM
You dont look bad....heres a suggestion.

Try and take the exact same pictures, but crack a huge smile in each one...one of those girl smiles where your eyes squint shut a bit and your cheeks almost hurt for a second...I found that those smiles wipe out about 90 percent of the man in us...post em for us to see.

guys have that stone face look....girls almost never do.

As for the dress, Id say bare arms dont really get it at this point...but its still cute....just smile! ;D
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Jay on January 10, 2009, 08:14:06 AM
too me I would say you pass! Very attractive! ;D
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: Lauren5158 on January 10, 2009, 05:21:19 PM
Katie:

Great pics! 

The central theme, as I see it is to blend in with the other women aroung you.  Whatever they do, you should pick up on their movements and try to emulate.   

Denae Doyle / FemImage suggests that men walk and stand, taking up as much space as they can. 

Women should try to minimize their space needs.  She also suggests that keeping arms close to your body gives the appearance of taking up minimum space.  Hands should be cupped or otherwise held so as to diminish the appearance of size!  I think, for the most part, your pics show a woman.  Remember to stand straight and erect, even with your feet and knees in the correct positions.

I think your muscles (arms and legs) are toned and fit.  If you present yourself as an athletic person, you should have no problems...  Personally, I consider your build as being solid, with the right amount of curves and "meat on your bones" (a guy phrase).

As was mentioned earlier, make sure your make-up is truly hiding what needs to be hidden.

The real clincher will be your walk, on level surfaces and on stairs.

One website worth reviewing would include: www.wikihow.com/ (http://www.wikihow.com/)

If you google the phrase "walk like a lady" several sites will show up...

You may look great when you are not moving, but that walk could easily be the one thing that may give you away!

You have a great start!  Keep up the work!  Carry yourself with confidence!  Let your radiance tell everyone that you are a lady, as well as a woman!

:eusa_clap:

Lauren
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time)
Post by: KatieSteph on January 11, 2009, 02:51:23 AM
Got more pics coming =)
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: KatieSteph on January 11, 2009, 03:05:45 AM
I took some advice and here are some new pics.. some funny ones too just for fun  ;D

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Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: whatsername on January 11, 2009, 03:46:06 AM
Lookin good!!
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: Rita Irene on January 11, 2009, 09:20:25 AM
The smiles did it girl! Do you think so?



It seemed alittle strange for me at first...but I found a smile much more now, and its great
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: Janet_Girl on January 11, 2009, 10:59:02 AM
A lot better, Girl.  Now you look even more feminine.  Good Job. :icon_hug:

Janet

Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: BrandiOK on January 11, 2009, 03:37:49 PM
Wow..what a difference a smile makes...much better :)
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: Rita Irene on January 11, 2009, 04:15:51 PM
...sorry...I was so blown away by the smile that I didnt notice the sleeved arms.

You look so much better in the second set....very passable...extra very.

Now the key is keeping that smile on when you go outside :)
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: VeryGnawty on January 12, 2009, 05:12:40 PM
Like I said, only guys use the crash test dummy face.
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: KatieSteph on January 12, 2009, 11:31:22 PM
Moving pics into another hosting site, be up later this week
Title: Re: Pics of me, opinions, suggestions? (Be nice, first time) - New pics added
Post by: daisybelle on January 13, 2009, 11:26:03 AM
I can't wait