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Title: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jeatyn on January 30, 2009, 07:49:44 PM
Post by: Jeatyn on January 30, 2009, 07:49:44 PM
In the next few days I will be registering and making an appointment with a GP
What do I say once I get there?
Just bluntly like "I'm transsexual, and wanted to ask about getting hormones" ?
I have no idea what to expect, I don't feel like I need therapy and I've been told I can bypass that stage if I sign a consent form saying I'm of sound mind and know what I'm doing etc.
I just wanted to be prepared before I waltz in there
In the UK by the way, if that makes a difference
I haven't seen a doctor for anything in years and years, I generally avoid them
What do I say once I get there?
Just bluntly like "I'm transsexual, and wanted to ask about getting hormones" ?
I have no idea what to expect, I don't feel like I need therapy and I've been told I can bypass that stage if I sign a consent form saying I'm of sound mind and know what I'm doing etc.
I just wanted to be prepared before I waltz in there
In the UK by the way, if that makes a difference
I haven't seen a doctor for anything in years and years, I generally avoid them
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: lizbeth on January 30, 2009, 08:14:42 PM
Post by: lizbeth on January 30, 2009, 08:14:42 PM
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you so I am looking forward to see the answer to your question :)
I went the therapy route though and got referred to a GP and an endo, but they are both 50 miles away and she also recomended that I try and find a GP near home, but i'm not exactly in an area where I think I will have good luck and like you I HATE going to doctors. Part of the reason I never went is because of being TG and a fear of being read. I guess that fear isn't justified for me anymore, so maybe I just need to get over it.
I went the therapy route though and got referred to a GP and an endo, but they are both 50 miles away and she also recomended that I try and find a GP near home, but i'm not exactly in an area where I think I will have good luck and like you I HATE going to doctors. Part of the reason I never went is because of being TG and a fear of being read. I guess that fear isn't justified for me anymore, so maybe I just need to get over it.
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jeatyn on January 30, 2009, 08:29:30 PM
Post by: Jeatyn on January 30, 2009, 08:29:30 PM
I'm praying the doctors close to me are educated enough in TG issues to help me, I don't have my own transport and going elsewhere would be a massive hassle
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Buffy on January 31, 2009, 01:25:28 AM
Post by: Buffy on January 31, 2009, 01:25:28 AM
Hi Jeatyn,
Seeing your GP is just the start of the process, which will eventually lead to refferals for hormones and surgery. Your GP cannot prescribe hormones without specialist approval.
First thing for you is honesty, the truth and to tell him / her about your feelings and what you wish to do. They can then get you some evaluation, normally by the PCT Physchiatrist before refferal to a GIC. Beware that many PCT's use Charring Cross for thier GID work and others such as Sheffield, Leicester have long waiting lists.
My GP when I saw him had never treated a TS patient, but I took him (and the practice partners) lots of literaure, including a document called "A GP's guide to transsexualism".
I had a great relationship with my GP and for me he gave me a refferal letter, worked with my specialist Physchiatrist from Leicester, organised speech therapy, wrote prescriptions for hormones on approval from the GIC, organised and monitored blood hormone levels, provided me with Surgery refferal letters and completed my GRP application to change my birth certificate.
They are only General Practitioners and sometimes you have to lead them by the hand to point them in the right direction, never be afraid to do that.
Rebecca
Seeing your GP is just the start of the process, which will eventually lead to refferals for hormones and surgery. Your GP cannot prescribe hormones without specialist approval.
First thing for you is honesty, the truth and to tell him / her about your feelings and what you wish to do. They can then get you some evaluation, normally by the PCT Physchiatrist before refferal to a GIC. Beware that many PCT's use Charring Cross for thier GID work and others such as Sheffield, Leicester have long waiting lists.
My GP when I saw him had never treated a TS patient, but I took him (and the practice partners) lots of literaure, including a document called "A GP's guide to transsexualism".
I had a great relationship with my GP and for me he gave me a refferal letter, worked with my specialist Physchiatrist from Leicester, organised speech therapy, wrote prescriptions for hormones on approval from the GIC, organised and monitored blood hormone levels, provided me with Surgery refferal letters and completed my GRP application to change my birth certificate.
They are only General Practitioners and sometimes you have to lead them by the hand to point them in the right direction, never be afraid to do that.
Rebecca
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Cindy on January 31, 2009, 02:21:27 AM
Post by: Cindy on January 31, 2009, 02:21:27 AM
My GP has known me for 30yrs as a male and my wife's family. He also knows be professionally as I'm in the same game. He is also religous. I'm not.
I went to a new GP and got a referal to the psych that way. I then asked the psych to correspond to my GP. I haven't been back: I'm booked in for week next weds. I really don't know it will pan out.
Know the feeling
Cindy James
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: noeleena on January 31, 2009, 02:37:02 AM
Post by: noeleena on January 31, 2009, 02:37:02 AM
hi... Jeatyn i see you are in the u k . i have dealings with some of the n h s people & not all of them are able to do much for us as they are not trans related nor are some g p,s . you dont say were you live so i would not know the nearst n h s near you so you may have a g p who can help you other wise get in contact wth ch x or may be this ph no may help . 020.7210.4850
department of health richmond 79 whitehall. london. SW1A 2NS any way just a thought your n h s is not like ours here in n z the d h b all though there are some things the same you have more Drs & psychiatirist.s who can help.. so there may be some on here who would know . so just ask . hope it all goes well .
...noeleena....
department of health richmond 79 whitehall. london. SW1A 2NS any way just a thought your n h s is not like ours here in n z the d h b all though there are some things the same you have more Drs & psychiatirist.s who can help.. so there may be some on here who would know . so just ask . hope it all goes well .
...noeleena....
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Chrissty on January 31, 2009, 02:06:51 PM
Post by: Chrissty on January 31, 2009, 02:06:51 PM
Hi Jeatyn,
There is a UK charity that has notes for GP's on GID you could print out and take with you.
I will pm you the link.
Chrissty
There is a UK charity that has notes for GP's on GID you could print out and take with you.
I will pm you the link.
Chrissty
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 02:30:32 PM
Post by: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 02:30:32 PM
I am in Leicester, boo to long waiting lists!
Thanks for the link Chrissty ;D I'll print some stuff to take with me when I go just incase I'm the first one my doctor's seen
Thanks for the link Chrissty ;D I'll print some stuff to take with me when I go just incase I'm the first one my doctor's seen
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: vanna on January 31, 2009, 05:07:24 PM
Post by: vanna on January 31, 2009, 05:07:24 PM
In the U.K your average G.P will know little if nothing on TS issues unless they have treated before.
They rarely allow hormones either for the above reasons without strong clinical backing. The most likely is your get a referral to a psychologist who will then write back to her/him and then a gender clinic appointment or a gender appointment straight away.
Its the NHS though so don't expect miracles.
They rarely allow hormones either for the above reasons without strong clinical backing. The most likely is your get a referral to a psychologist who will then write back to her/him and then a gender clinic appointment or a gender appointment straight away.
Its the NHS though so don't expect miracles.
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 06:36:46 PM
Post by: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 06:36:46 PM
I was really hoping to be able to go full time before I start college in september, my voice is a bit of a problem at the moment. I think I might have trouble even getting an appointment for therapy before then at this rate xD
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: vanna on January 31, 2009, 06:55:42 PM
Post by: vanna on January 31, 2009, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 06:36:46 PM
I was really hoping to be able to go full time before I start college in september, my voice is a bit of a problem at the moment. I think I might have trouble even getting an appointment for therapy before then at this rate xD
Shame your not working hunny, you can speed up the process quite considerably with private healthcare.
Your get there with the NHS but it can be like british rail, slower..much slower.
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 07:01:07 PM
Post by: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 07:01:07 PM
Quote from: Ms Delgado on January 31, 2009, 06:55:42 PMQuote from: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 06:36:46 PM
I was really hoping to be able to go full time before I start college in september, my voice is a bit of a problem at the moment. I think I might have trouble even getting an appointment for therapy before then at this rate xD
Shame your not working hunny, you can speed up the process quite considerably with private healthcare.
Your get there with the NHS but it can be like british rail, slower..much slower.
being out of work is driving me insane. I'm even starting to consider adding up all the costs of private care and getting a loan....a bad idea...but I'm really not looking forward to starting another chapter of my life in girl mode. Ideally I want to move to a whole new area, new college, with nobody I've ever met before, and just go about my business as a guy without having to explain my situation.
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: vanna on January 31, 2009, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: vanna on January 31, 2009, 07:14:00 PM
Quote from: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Ms Delgado on January 31, 2009, 06:55:42 PMQuote from: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 06:36:46 PM
I was really hoping to be able to go full time before I start college in september, my voice is a bit of a problem at the moment. I think I might have trouble even getting an appointment for therapy before then at this rate xD
Shame your not working hunny, you can speed up the process quite considerably with private healthcare.
Your get there with the NHS but it can be like british rail, slower..much slower.
being out of work is driving me insane. I'm even starting to consider adding up all the costs of private care and getting a loan....a bad idea...but I'm really not looking forward to starting another chapter of my life in girl mode. Ideally I want to move to a whole new area, new college, with nobody I've ever met before, and just go about my business as a guy without having to explain my situation.
Cant blame you for feeling that way, i think we all consider or even try it at sometime. It will work out im really sure..kay :)
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jenny Jackson on January 31, 2009, 08:45:14 PM
Post by: Jenny Jackson on January 31, 2009, 08:45:14 PM
I went to see my GP for the first time last week. I got the impression that she might have had some prior experience of transsexualism, however, given I've been on hormones for over two years, have had FFS, undergone a plethora of other feminising procedures and have been full time since last November, the poor woman didn't get much of a chance to advise or deny me my 'shopping list'. ;)
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Chrissty on February 01, 2009, 08:10:43 AM
Post by: Chrissty on February 01, 2009, 08:10:43 AM
Quote from: Jeatyn on January 31, 2009, 07:01:07 PM
being out of work is driving me insane. I'm even starting to consider adding up all the costs of private care and getting a loan....a bad idea...but I'm really not looking forward to starting another chapter of my life in girl mode. Ideally I want to move to a whole new area, new college, with nobody I've ever met before, and just go about my business as a guy without having to explain my situation.
I know what you mean about being out of work, I've been made redundant through takeovers and asset stripping 4 times, and it doesn't get any easier.
I'm glad you see a loan as a bad idea, I would agree in your circumstances.
I presume you are studying now and are looking for part-time, but if not, have you thought about trying to get a job in Brighton (or the general area) and moving there in advance of college? If you are studying, possibly plan now for a summer job there, as it has seasonal work?
If you cannot get what you need now, it is always good to have positive plans to keep your spirits up....
Chrissty
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jay on February 01, 2009, 08:33:39 AM
Post by: Jay on February 01, 2009, 08:33:39 AM
I'm from the Uk also, and my GP didn't know anything.. however she did look into it for me and got me an appointment with the Gender clinic here.
I just walked straight into a room and said "I want to be a man" You should have seen her face! Seriously! But I cut to the chase..Short and sweet :)
I just walked straight into a room and said "I want to be a man" You should have seen her face! Seriously! But I cut to the chase..Short and sweet :)
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jeatyn on February 01, 2009, 09:15:45 AM
Post by: Jeatyn on February 01, 2009, 09:15:45 AM
I'm not studying right now but I have been looking for work, and finding it really hard. Even places like mcdonalds and part time cleaning jobs have rejected me.
hell I even applied to a charity shop just to get some more experience on my CV and they said they didn't have any places! I couldn't believe it, I can't even give me labour away ::)
Jay - I'm gonna take the same approach, best not to dance around the issue. I'll take my printouts and just see how it goes.
hell I even applied to a charity shop just to get some more experience on my CV and they said they didn't have any places! I couldn't believe it, I can't even give me labour away ::)
Jay - I'm gonna take the same approach, best not to dance around the issue. I'll take my printouts and just see how it goes.
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jay on February 01, 2009, 12:19:22 PM
Post by: Jay on February 01, 2009, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Jeatyn on February 01, 2009, 09:15:45 AM
I'm not studying right now but I have been looking for work, and finding it really hard. Even places like mcdonalds and part time cleaning jobs have rejected me.
hell I even applied to a charity shop just to get some more experience on my CV and they said they didn't have any places! I couldn't believe it, I can't even give me labour away ::)
Damn Ressesion! It is really hard to get a job at the moment and I'm just glad I have one. You could always go to the Job Center and get some help they are generally quite good.. well to an extent ;)
QuoteJay - I'm gonna take the same approach, best not to dance around the issue. I'll take my printouts and just see how it goes.
Be careful with the print outs, it could offend a doctor. So just be careful with that dude. But good luck and let us all know how it goes! :D
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Tamara on February 01, 2009, 01:17:31 PM
Post by: Tamara on February 01, 2009, 01:17:31 PM
Hi, I'm also from Leicester UK. I went to my GP and said "I want to have a sex change" and she just took it frm there, luckilly she has experience with this and knew what to do. I had an initial appointment with a psychiatrist about 1 or 2 months after seeing the GP and had my first appointment with a specialist about 8 months after the psychiatrist appointment. I know this isn't exactly light-speed but it's better than alot of areas.
I Hope it all goes ok.
I Hope it all goes ok.
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jeatyn on February 01, 2009, 01:54:56 PM
Post by: Jeatyn on February 01, 2009, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: Jay on February 01, 2009, 12:19:22 PMQuote from: Jeatyn on February 01, 2009, 09:15:45 AM
I'm not studying right now but I have been looking for work, and finding it really hard. Even places like mcdonalds and part time cleaning jobs have rejected me.
hell I even applied to a charity shop just to get some more experience on my CV and they said they didn't have any places! I couldn't believe it, I can't even give me labour away ::)
Damn Ressesion! It is really hard to get a job at the moment and I'm just glad I have one. You could always go to the Job Center and get some help they are generally quite good.. well to an extent ;)QuoteJay - I'm gonna take the same approach, best not to dance around the issue. I'll take my printouts and just see how it goes.
Be careful with the print outs, it could offend a doctor. So just be careful with that dude. But good luck and let us all know how it goes! :D
I've been signing on at the job centre since my savings ran out about 4 months ago, no joy there either, ah well, I'm sure I'll find something eventually.
I seem to have a gift for offending people no matter what I do, but I'll try not to annoy my doctor when I'm asking for help xD
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jay on February 02, 2009, 07:08:36 AM
Post by: Jay on February 02, 2009, 07:08:36 AM
Good luck dude!
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: milliontoone on February 02, 2009, 04:56:14 PM
Post by: milliontoone on February 02, 2009, 04:56:14 PM
Ok well first thing you should be prepared for, the NHS is hell on wheels and is certainly not a transexuals best friend. :laugh:
That being said the staff who work for them, doctors, psychs etc.. are generally pretty supportive once you actually get an appointment unless you come across an ignorant gp or one uneducated on the issue of transexualism.
I went to see my doctor for the first time last year and it took 7 months between that first visit and my first appointment with the GIC.
I would consider going private if you want fast results because trust me expect a wait with the NHS although you will get there eventually.
As for what to say to your doctor, I would just be as honest as you can and explain how you feel and what your end goal is, how you would like them to help you etc..most of the good ones will take that as a cue to organise a referral for a psychiatrist for you who you will need to see a couple of times at least before you will get a referral to your nearest GIC.
Sometimes I do wonder if the bloody NHS isn't trying force some of us to take alternative measures like going private etc...
That being said the staff who work for them, doctors, psychs etc.. are generally pretty supportive once you actually get an appointment unless you come across an ignorant gp or one uneducated on the issue of transexualism.
I went to see my doctor for the first time last year and it took 7 months between that first visit and my first appointment with the GIC.
I would consider going private if you want fast results because trust me expect a wait with the NHS although you will get there eventually.
As for what to say to your doctor, I would just be as honest as you can and explain how you feel and what your end goal is, how you would like them to help you etc..most of the good ones will take that as a cue to organise a referral for a psychiatrist for you who you will need to see a couple of times at least before you will get a referral to your nearest GIC.
Sometimes I do wonder if the bloody NHS isn't trying force some of us to take alternative measures like going private etc...
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Jeatyn on February 02, 2009, 05:00:15 PM
Post by: Jeatyn on February 02, 2009, 05:00:15 PM
im gonna go the NHS route and continue to try my hardest to get a job, if i get one, here i come private healthcare
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: milliontoone on February 02, 2009, 07:46:27 PM
Post by: milliontoone on February 02, 2009, 07:46:27 PM
good luck man i know it will all work out for you... ;)
Title: Re: Seeing a GP soon - What do I say exactly?
Post by: Cindy on February 03, 2009, 01:21:57 AM
Post by: Cindy on February 03, 2009, 01:21:57 AM
Goog luck Jaetyn
and yes milliontone, every public health system in the world is trying to get people on to private. The fact is the public health system in the world is going broke.
Cindy James
apologies if I mis spekt your names :D
and yes milliontone, every public health system in the world is trying to get people on to private. The fact is the public health system in the world is going broke.
Cindy James
apologies if I mis spekt your names :D