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This comment, oh I knew I was a girl, I never liked sports is kind of stupid, and in that vein, I would like to say, YOU GO GIRL to Pat Summit who  won the 1,000th career coaching victory in her career at Tennessee. It also applied to virtually every aspect of the Lady Vols' play in a resounding 73-43 SEC women's basketball victory over Georgia before a joyous crowd of 16,058 at Thompson-Boling Arena.

She is the all-time winningest coach in NCAA basketball history and the first NCAA Division I basketball coach to win one thousand games.

Thanks T. It's really cool to see women excelling. If nothing else it shuts the guys up for just a bit.

And just to show girls can also kick butt with the best:  ;D

The Ladies' Jam Collective, NYC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3mzfURCUc#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3mzfURCUc#noexternalembed)

Luci Romberg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWoZsc8eF4s#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWoZsc8eF4s#noexternalembed)

Annika Kahn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dff8urMhHdQ#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dff8urMhHdQ#noexternalembed)

Chloe Bruce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksxGDKGU13U#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksxGDKGU13U#noexternalembed)

Stella Angelova
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sargmwMdUwU#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sargmwMdUwU#noexternalembed)

Girls rock.

Mina.

She also leads in female All-Americans, Olympic Medal winners, All-American Academic All-Stars, and has a graduation rate in the 90 percentile.

Wow. She sounds quite amazing.

Mina.

I'm not much of a sports fan, but when I do watch sports, I watch women's hockey and women's tennis. They bring brains and brawn to sports that men just bring brawn to. Can't get many of my guy friends to agree, but I find it more interesting watching strategy in games than just brute strength.

Dennis

I wonder are many female athletes FTM:s living in denial?

My niece's daughter Kiersey........was a champion this winter!!!!! Won Orangeville Hockey Tournament. and both mom and daughter love skiing.

Cindy

All sports, male or female require an amount of physical ability, strength and intelligence. I refuse to dis. upon anyone based upon gender or any other reason that anyone may imply on this subject

Sorry, I was joking mostly. ;D

I'm a competitive figure skater .... but I guess that isn't really a "sport"

LOL!

That is an art with a lot of skill me dear.  ;D My dad was a figure skater. I wasn't much on sport but I did like cross country skiing and liked just knocking about on skates on a home made skating rink on the lake behind the homestead during the winter. Years ago I use to like playing soccer and stick ball.

Cindy

I rather work "with" people than compete.

Quote from: Dennis on February 07, 2009, 02:41:21 AM
I'm not much of a sports fan, but when I do watch sports, I watch women's hockey and women's tennis. They bring brains and brawn to sports that men just bring brawn to. Can't get many of my guy friends to agree, but I find it more interesting watching strategy in games than just brute strength.

Dennis

ie: Football not only requires allot of strength but the Quarterback has to be a skilled strategist.... and take a beating  :icon_smile:

Pat Summit is an amazing coach. I have followed her career, when I was old enough to watch, and she really has accomplished a lot.
Myles

I'm not much of a sports fan, but when I do watch sports, I watch women's hockey and women's tennis. They bring brains and brawn to sports that men just bring brawn to. Can't get many of my guy friends to agree, but I find it more interesting watching strategy in games than just brute strength.


I'm down with that to a degree.  The NBA has become a thug league of nothing but superstars, but when I watch women's college basketball, its a different game, hell, they even pass.  Crap, the even play defense that's not predicated on seeing how hard you can foul someone.

I'm a big fan of the World Cup (skiing - though I understand there is some sort of other World Cup that I'm not too sure about) and the women look better then the men doing the courses, and the time difference has dropped to a very small fraction.  I'm guessing in another 20-50 years, there will be no difference.  By the way, no one, not even Jean Claude Killy looked better on skis then Katja Seizinger did.  And Picabo Street is still my first love, balls to the wall, flat out, awesome.

Or the incredible strength, determination and art of Katarina Witt is a legend on ice.  Not only did she win the medals when she was in her prime, late in her career, long after her ability to win the gold was over, she went back one more time, to Norway, so that her parents - forbidden to travel overseas to see her when she won (commie crap) did a skating tribute to where she won her first medal, in then war torn Sarajevo skating to Where Have All the Flowers Gone?  So, she was not at her peak as a skater, but as an artist, its the bomb.  And Olympic statement for the ages.

And, as it turns out, as the Lady Vol's will tell you, team sports are about working with other people, one star does not a championship make.

As mentioned before, "there is no i in team". That's why I tend to like team sports. No team = no win. The thing I appreciate most about the NFL, NBA and MLB is the community service that many of the athletes give back.

I've watched some women's leagues and will have to admit they bring a pretty good game to the table  ;)

Sports are sports.  You can like them or not.  My point was just that if you think that only 'boys' do sport, and somehow 'girls' are not competitive you need to get out of your bedroom and look at the real world.  Pulling your head out of your butt would not hurt either.

Quote from: tekla on February 07, 2009, 04:59:56 PM
Sports are sports.  You can like them or not.  My point was just that if you think that only 'boys' do sport, and somehow 'girls' are not competitive you need to get out of your bedroom and look at the real world.  Pulling your head out of your butt would not hurt either.

Gee, that isn't rude or insulting in someway  :laugh:

I would hope, in every way.  If nothing else, I'm pretty good at getting across exactly what I mean.  Its really hard, I mean you have to work at, not understanding exactly what I'm saying.  Call it a gift.

I'm just saying that a whole hella (I'm doing the youth thing here) lot of people in here don't just subscribe to a notion of gender that is long dead and gone, what they believe in is an antique, and an antique that is ready for the dust bin of history.

Sure, I know lots of guys who love sports, but I know just as many females who do too.  And, lots of guys who don't do anything more physical than yank themselves, and lot of girls who do the same.

To think that "Gee, I don't like sports, so I must be a girl" is stupid. \

Ask Dennis who I'm sure was fishing and skiing before the change, or Steph who rides a Harley.

Stereotypes are for ->-bleeped-<-s.

I am not aiming this post at anyone in particular but it just irritates me when someone says that being stereotypical is a bunch of hooey, that we are all the same? Gee show me two women that think and perceive the same thing in total agreement? or two men? or a woman and a man? What follows is my opinion only.

Well I'm afraid that being stereotyped is a greater part of traits or genetic markers. As subtle as the distinctions are, the differences still remain nevertheless.

Some things women are better suited at doing than men and vice- versa. I am certainly not about to walk with a swagger, spit on the sidewalk, swear in public, sit with my legs spread apart, and scratch my crotch in public..

The differences are also apparent in sports, played gracefully, with speed, agility and style. Good eye-to-hand coordination will get that ball in the basket just as efficiently and effectively as strategy and brawn will.

The differences are also in the conceptual, with women envisioning and assembling all the pieces in the mental processes simultaneously while the male assembles the pieces one at a time in the male compartmental mind. Conceptually the difference is subtle but true.

The discernible difference on how one carries out the same command or does the delivery may achieve the same result but the mechanics of the delivery is as different as day and night.

So whether some like it or not, stereotypical behaviors are certainly part of the characteristics of genetic differences. 

My point, just in case you missed it, is that there are many great athletes among all genders. And I don't care for stereotyping either 

I also don't resort to potty mouthing off at others. Thank You  :icon_smile:

Competition brings out the best in people  ;) get used to it if you deal with people.

Quote from: lisagurl on February 07, 2009, 07:29:06 PM
Competition brings out the best in people  ;) get used to it if you deal with people.

No doubt  :icon_yes:

Quote from: lisagurl on February 07, 2009, 02:58:38 PM
I rather work "with" people than compete.

Same, which is why non-competitive disciplines like the martial arts or parkour appeal to me. Yeah, it can be made competitive, but ultimately it's just you against yourself.

Quote from: lisagurl on February 07, 2009, 07:29:06 PM
Competition brings out the best in people  ;) get used to it if you deal with people.

I don't necessarily agree with that. On a small scale between individuals yes, but translated onto a bigger arena you get UK football fans and nasty business practices. The model within open source development, where people work collectively on a project, but gather "merit" based on how much they contribute to the project, and to the open source community, that model works really well, harnessing the best competition and cooperation have to offer, without the nasty side-effects of either.

Mina.