Community Conversation => Intersex talk => Topic started by: mickie88 on March 05, 2009, 10:50:48 AM Return to Full Version
Title: intersex people and identification...
Post by: mickie88 on March 05, 2009, 10:50:48 AM
Post by: mickie88 on March 05, 2009, 10:50:48 AM
ok..i'm seriously not trying to sound mean or disrespectful, but if i do i apologize in advance.
what does an IS person do(for identification) say if they are born with both reproductive feautures but are assigned Male at birth, but know they should be Female?
what do they do if it's the opposite way around?
what if they don't want surgery to correct any physical "defects" but would prefer their documentation say they were the appropriate gender they know they are?
what does an IS person do(for identification) say if they are born with both reproductive feautures but are assigned Male at birth, but know they should be Female?
what do they do if it's the opposite way around?
what if they don't want surgery to correct any physical "defects" but would prefer their documentation say they were the appropriate gender they know they are?
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Zelane on March 05, 2009, 05:48:54 PM
Post by: Zelane on March 05, 2009, 05:48:54 PM
Are you talking about legal issues? Or personal identification?
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Mister on March 05, 2009, 05:53:53 PM
Post by: Mister on March 05, 2009, 05:53:53 PM
good question!
*lurks*
*lurks*
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Genevieve Swann on March 06, 2009, 05:05:48 AM
Post by: Genevieve Swann on March 06, 2009, 05:05:48 AM
I know one intersex person who was identified as male even got drafted by the army. Unfortunately hospitals would normally give them a gender assignment shortly after birth. That practice is wrong and has stopped to the best of my knowledge. The intersex person I mentoned is now becoming 100% female and seems very happy.
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Rachael on March 06, 2009, 08:29:47 AM
Post by: Rachael on March 06, 2009, 08:29:47 AM
I identify as female.... My ID shows female for most cases, apart from legal sex, which is still male for some reason? (beurocrats)
If someone identifies as male or female, the chances of them NOT wanting to be entirely either or is slim... Most is people are not even transgender btw.... they are generally happy with thier birth body... ast hey dont know any better that they are is till they are told... say... at firtility clinics...
If someone identifies as IS, they can keep thier birth defects all they want, as long as its clinically safe to do so... so many IS cases are NOT safe to leave... its why genetal surgery in infants still occurs... doctors have an overriding need to see the child LIVES rather than leaving them entirely as born for 'them to decide'
I grew up feeling i was TS... i started transition as a ts person, and my biological enimga was discovered after 9 months o self medicating hrt... (my doctor gave me blood tests) and this picked up anomalies... Identity is the same as for ts people... some id as Is women, Is men, Intersexed or just men and women.... Im one of those women, nuf said.
If someone identifies as male or female, the chances of them NOT wanting to be entirely either or is slim... Most is people are not even transgender btw.... they are generally happy with thier birth body... ast hey dont know any better that they are is till they are told... say... at firtility clinics...
If someone identifies as IS, they can keep thier birth defects all they want, as long as its clinically safe to do so... so many IS cases are NOT safe to leave... its why genetal surgery in infants still occurs... doctors have an overriding need to see the child LIVES rather than leaving them entirely as born for 'them to decide'
I grew up feeling i was TS... i started transition as a ts person, and my biological enimga was discovered after 9 months o self medicating hrt... (my doctor gave me blood tests) and this picked up anomalies... Identity is the same as for ts people... some id as Is women, Is men, Intersexed or just men and women.... Im one of those women, nuf said.
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: mickie88 on March 06, 2009, 01:33:15 PM
Post by: mickie88 on March 06, 2009, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: Zelane on March 05, 2009, 05:48:54 PM
Are you talking about legal issues? Or personal identification?
personal id like a drivers license, SSA, that kind of stuff :D
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Rachael on March 06, 2009, 07:36:31 PM
Post by: Rachael on March 06, 2009, 07:36:31 PM
For intersexed people, it depends... If they are happy in thier birth sex and given sex when finding out they are IS, it doesnt have to change just because say... a AIS woman finds out shes xy... that would be damn cruel...
As for say... a 'male' born child transitioning, only to find out they are IS, and say, have xx chromasomes... It can be 'corrected' and ID changed pretty easily. I know i have an F on all my legal doccuments and ive not had genetal corective surgery yet.... It was just changed when i asked...
As for say... a 'male' born child transitioning, only to find out they are IS, and say, have xx chromasomes... It can be 'corrected' and ID changed pretty easily. I know i have an F on all my legal doccuments and ive not had genetal corective surgery yet.... It was just changed when i asked...
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Nicky on March 09, 2009, 02:31:27 PM
Post by: Nicky on March 09, 2009, 02:31:27 PM
Would it be easier than a transexual getting their documentation amended?
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Rachael on March 09, 2009, 06:12:05 PM
Post by: Rachael on March 09, 2009, 06:12:05 PM
It entirely depends on how you are Intersexed....
it CAN be, but it also can make it harder. This is begining to seem like a 'intersex am easy way out!' topic again ><
it CAN be, but it also can make it harder. This is begining to seem like a 'intersex am easy way out!' topic again ><
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Nicky on March 09, 2009, 06:37:18 PM
Post by: Nicky on March 09, 2009, 06:37:18 PM
I wonder if anyone has ever had a birth cirtificate that was like a clerical error? I wonder how hard it was for them to change it back.
Title: Re: intersex people and identification...
Post by: Zelane on March 09, 2009, 06:48:45 PM
Post by: Zelane on March 09, 2009, 06:48:45 PM
Quote from: Rachael on March 09, 2009, 06:12:05 PM
It entirely depends on how you are Intersexed....
it CAN be, but it also can make it harder. This is begining to seem like a 'intersex am easy way out!' topic again ><
Hahahahaa, that made me laugh and cringe >.<
It depends on your state/country/region legislation.