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Title: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: TamTam on April 05, 2009, 02:12:35 AM
Post by: TamTam on April 05, 2009, 02:12:35 AM
QuoteThis is an astonishing example of homophobic bigotry in a nursing college. A student was basically flunked out of a key course in the curriculum for a reason you will find hard to believe — here's a letter from a nursing faculty member to the student:...
This is absolutely outrageous. Even worse, the college is dragging out the investigation, has hurt the student's prospects, and shows no sign of actually wanting to address the issue, preferring to try and place the blame on the student. The college also outed the student to all of her fellow students in the course of 'investigating' the problem. I've got a full account from the student below the fold.
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http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/04/flagrant_anti-gay_discriminati.php (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/04/flagrant_anti-gay_discriminati.php)
>:(
I have no words.
EDIT:
As Kate Alice has pointed out, there is now speculation that this was all a hoax on the part of the student, who was actually dismissed fairly. The above link now shows info about this possible hoax, and this link is a statement from the college:
http://www.cegep-heritage.qc.ca/declaration-officielle.pdf (http://www.cegep-heritage.qc.ca/declaration-officielle.pdf)
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: Miniar on April 05, 2009, 06:25:04 AM
Post by: Miniar on April 05, 2009, 06:25:04 AM
O.O
I'm stunned. This is ridiculous!
I'm stunned. This is ridiculous!
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: mina.magpie on April 05, 2009, 06:44:58 AM
Post by: mina.magpie on April 05, 2009, 06:44:58 AM
Okaaaaay ... it's of course fine for straight girls to look after guys. O_o
Jeez, yet more of the "We can't have queers in the military/schools/hpsitals/whatever 'cause they'll corrupt the other soldiers/our children/patients/whatever!"
Straight people don't go around making every contact with another human being sexual, why on earth would gay people?! *facepalm*
Mina.
Jeez, yet more of the "We can't have queers in the military/schools/hpsitals/whatever 'cause they'll corrupt the other soldiers/our children/patients/whatever!"
Straight people don't go around making every contact with another human being sexual, why on earth would gay people?! *facepalm*
Mina.
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: Linus on April 05, 2009, 07:05:26 AM
Post by: Linus on April 05, 2009, 07:05:26 AM
Ok, there's something not right here. In Canada, every province has protections against sexual orientation discrimination. She should be going to the human rights board of her province to get this addressed. If you look at the full set of emails, there is a whole story behind this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36800888@N02/sets/72157615921627243/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36800888@N02/sets/72157615921627243/)
What is frustrating is that while the college didn't do anything, she also made things worse by publicizing the letters. Before doing that she should have gone here: http://www.cdpdj.qc.ca/en/home.asp (http://www.cdpdj.qc.ca/en/home.asp) By my count the supervisor had violated about 5-6 rights and since the school is a CEGEP (kind of like a community college that's run by the province) she'd have good reason for them to be involved.
As a final note, this college and instructor are the exception, not the rule. My aunt is a head nurse. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with nursing in her opinion. It's a person's ability and professionalism that matters.
What is frustrating is that while the college didn't do anything, she also made things worse by publicizing the letters. Before doing that she should have gone here: http://www.cdpdj.qc.ca/en/home.asp (http://www.cdpdj.qc.ca/en/home.asp) By my count the supervisor had violated about 5-6 rights and since the school is a CEGEP (kind of like a community college that's run by the province) she'd have good reason for them to be involved.
As a final note, this college and instructor are the exception, not the rule. My aunt is a head nurse. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with nursing in her opinion. It's a person's ability and professionalism that matters.
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: imaz on April 05, 2009, 08:55:31 AM
Post by: imaz on April 05, 2009, 08:55:31 AM
Isn't this illegal?
The last thing people should be worrying about is a nurse's sexual orientation, anyway there are loads of Gay nurses and doctors here in the UK.
The last thing people should be worrying about is a nurse's sexual orientation, anyway there are loads of Gay nurses and doctors here in the UK.
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: gennee on April 05, 2009, 04:53:44 PM
Post by: gennee on April 05, 2009, 04:53:44 PM
Two points to note.
1. The person who rejected the nursing student IS homophobic as demostrated by her actions.
2. I have never known where a patient was interested in a nurse's sexual orientation.
They are interested in competent care.
This is blantant dicrimination.
Gennee
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1. The person who rejected the nursing student IS homophobic as demostrated by her actions.
2. I have never known where a patient was interested in a nurse's sexual orientation.
They are interested in competent care.
This is blantant dicrimination.
Gennee
:(
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: imaz on April 06, 2009, 08:56:51 PM
Post by: imaz on April 06, 2009, 08:56:51 PM
Quote from: gennee on April 05, 2009, 04:53:44 PM
Two points to note.
1. The person who rejected the nursing student IS homophobic as demostrated by her actions.
2. I have never known where a patient was interested in a nurse's sexual orientation.
They are interested in competent care.
This is blantant dicrimination.
Gennee
:(
Well I've met a few hot nurses in my time and was very interested indeed! >:-)
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: Mushy Peas on April 11, 2009, 06:13:56 AM
Post by: Mushy Peas on April 11, 2009, 06:13:56 AM
This is unbelievable these days!
People in hospital need decent care.
People in hospital need decent care.
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: Kate Thomas on April 13, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
Post by: Kate Thomas on April 13, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
posted now is this message
Link (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/04/flagrant_anti-gay_discriminati.php#comment-1531501)
Official statement by Heritage College on harassment, discrimination and homophobia accusations by a student (http://www.cegep-heritage.qc.ca/declaration-officielle.pdf)
QuoteUh-oh. There is evidence that the damning email might have been faked. The "from" field of the message looks to have been crudely pasted in, and this whole story may be a product of a slighted student's imagination.
Link (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/04/flagrant_anti-gay_discriminati.php#comment-1531501)
Official statement by Heritage College on harassment, discrimination and homophobia accusations by a student (http://www.cegep-heritage.qc.ca/declaration-officielle.pdf)
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: daisybelle on April 13, 2009, 04:24:22 PM
Post by: daisybelle on April 13, 2009, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: Kate Alice on April 13, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
posted now is this message
Link (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/04/flagrant_anti-gay_discriminati.php#comment-1531501)
Official statement by Heritage College on harassment, discrimination and homophobia accusations by a student (http://www.cegep-heritage.qc.ca/declaration-officielle.pdf)
If she faked this, well do you all feel silly for raking the college and its staff across the coals. Or do they deserve it anyway?
If this is true -- then :icon_2gun: :icon_censored: :icon_userfriendly: :icon_pistoles: :icon_chainsaw:
Daisy
Daisy
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: Jay on April 13, 2009, 05:22:09 PM
Post by: Jay on April 13, 2009, 05:22:09 PM
This is disgusting.
That is all I can write.. with out it turning into a rant! GRRRRR!!!
Jay
That is all I can write.. with out it turning into a rant! GRRRRR!!!
Jay
Title: Re: Canadian nursing student flunks essential course because she's gay.
Post by: NicholeW. on April 13, 2009, 06:06:49 PM
Post by: NicholeW. on April 13, 2009, 06:06:49 PM
Having just spent a couple of hours reading and re-reading a lot of this I am starting to think that the folks at Pharyngula, both pro and con Ninoska, have pretty much leaped before they looked. The "debunkers" seem to maybe not have as much a case as they think and the protesters against the sapphobic professor seem to be about as uninterested in any real story as well.
I do love the "experts" who are "debunking" her story. Apparently the police are involved at this point as well. I doubt they'll call in as consultants any of the "debunkers" at Pharyngula.
There is a local media report as well: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Health/Nursing+student+alleges+homophobia/1479925/story.html (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Health/Nursing+student+alleges+homophobia/1479925/story.html)
I do love the "experts" who are "debunking" her story. Apparently the police are involved at this point as well. I doubt they'll call in as consultants any of the "debunkers" at Pharyngula.
There is a local media report as well: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Health/Nursing+student+alleges+homophobia/1479925/story.html (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Health/Nursing+student+alleges+homophobia/1479925/story.html)