Susan's Place Transgender Resources

Hello, everyone! This is my first post here (hopefully the first of many, you all seem really nice!), and I'd like your opinions on where I fit.
Ok, I've only really been researching in-depth about androgyny for a short while, but I think it might fit me...?
I'm biologically female, but go through phases of feeling either male, female or neither. Although I own female clothing and do wear it from time to time (usually as a response to needing to 'look nice' for a party or similar event, or purely because I was too lazy to put a wash on and have nothing else clean) I never really feel comfortable in it, preferring instead to go for androgynous or boy's clothes, and am considering getting a chest binder for days when I am feeling really 'trans'. I am fine (mostly!) with my female appearance (eg. my face and hair), I just want a flat chest and to be taller and stronger.
I'm not really sexually attracted to anyone, but still have vague hopes of maybe fancying someone someday.  ;D
I think androgyne might be more fitting than transgendered because I don't feel like I hate all my femaleness. Socially, I want to be able to blend in with groups of either girls or guys, but still be able to use my base girl-ness or guy-ness to escape from situations I'm not that comfortable with. (Heck, I do this anyway!)
The thing that casts doubt on my mind is the fact that for several years in school I was subjected to a lot of sexist bullying (and we were forced to wear skirts as well, which I hated) and all the girls in my year were basically useless, so after that I had a big reactionary period where I hated girls (having come to believe that they were stupid and weak, as the bullies said) and was pretty much quite strongly a guy for six months-ish after I left that school. It messed me up kinda, but I've more-or-less recovered now... It's mainly since that started that I've been really questioning my true gender status, because before then I always wanted to say I was 'gender-neutral' (because to my young self it sounded cool and I had fantasies of having neither set of genitalia) but never really thought about it. I was never really into girly stuff (or guy-y stuff, for that matter) and could never stand makeup!  :) :icon_blah:
Well, feel free to ask me any questions... yep! I think that's about all I can think of to say on the matter. Sorry for the long essay-ness of this post! (Secretly, I think this is pretty good going, but I'm sure some of you might be defeated by its awesome length.  ;D)

Well hello and welcome.
Looks like you passed the rigorous exam for entrance.
"go through phases of feeling either male, female or neither"
There you go, you get to go into the exclusive androgyne lounge and enjoy all the amenities like hot and cold running water.

Honestly, that's all that's needed. All other differences are just things to natter about. But seeing as you asked for questions  >:-)
Please complete the following statements...if you fancy.


When I'm angry:


When I'm sad:


When I'm lonely:


When I'm happy:


The best year of my life was:


Lying is:


My current annoyance is:


I want to buy:


If you visited the place I'm from:


If I died today:


My first job was:


I collect:

sounds like. welcome to the forest.

Welcome!  I'm similar to you in regards to gender.  It's always nice to have another unicorn to frolic about with us.  :D

...You look pretty important in that pic, Pica.  What's up with that?  :P

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! I managed to post this topic twice by accident because my internet went strange on me... I can't figure out how to delete the spare!  >:(
Fine then, Pica, I shall answer your questions!  :D
When I'm angry: I cry. It's a terrible habit because no one takes you seriously if you cry.

When I'm sad: I listen to music through headphones in the dark!

When I'm lonely: I text my insommniac friend who foolishly agreed to always reply when I text him. Mwahaha!  >:-)

When I'm happy: I daydream a lot and am quite industrious with my drawing.

The best year of my life was: When I was 6, because that was cool.  ;D

Lying is: Largely avoidable if you can think fast enough to be technically telling the truth.

My current annoyance is: Computers. Graah! Why do they torment me so!  ???

I want to buy: Lots of books. Too many to list, really...

If you visited the place I'm from: You'd be quite horrified by the amount of roadworks going on; it's becoming quite ridiculous.

If I died today: I'd be slightly puzzled, but relatively OK. Also curious to find out if my theories on life after death are really true...

My first job was: I'm young. I've intended to get a job for a while but... laziness triumphs over all!  :(

I collect: Cheesy lonely-hearts adverts and dreadful Sci-fi novels. I love the mediocre in life!  ;)


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Quote from: Fenrir on April 09, 2009, 08:01:41 PM
When I'm angry: I cry. It's a terrible habit because no one takes you seriously if you cry.

...deja vu?  I think we've had an entire conversation about this...or something similar...or I've lost my mind and have no idea what I'm talking about...

Quote from: Fenrir on April 09, 2009, 08:01:41 PM

I collect: Cheesy lonely-hearts adverts


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so do i, i have some real good 'uns.

oh, i'm reading a bit of a story at a small (very small) literary festival. Though i did et to have a chat with Jean Ure and Iain (M) Banks.

Quotebecause to my young self it sounded cool and I had fantasies of having neither set of genitalia

That's like I want.

What would be your ideal body now?

Hi,

Androgyne falls under the trans umbrella the same way as rain seems to do.

You sound suspiciously like one of us which, of course, is good reason to suspect that you are a bad influence on others.   :)

Quote from: Pica Pica on April 09, 2009, 07:19:18 PM
Well hello and welcome.
Looks like you passed the rigorous exam for entrance.
"go through phases of feeling either male, female or neither"
There you go, you get to go into the exclusive androgyne lounge and enjoy all the amenities like hot and cold running water.

don't you mean cold and cold running water?

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When I'm angry:

I feel sad

When I'm sad:

I feel angry

When I'm lonely:

I feel sad

When I'm happy:

I brush my teeth

The best year of my life was:

was the one preceding my birth

Lying is:

the best position to sleep in


My current annoyance is:

the color red


I want to buy:

money

If you visited the place I'm from:

we'd steal your car.

If I died today:

I'd probably just wake up tomorrow

I collect:

dust

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Quote from: Fenrir on April 09, 2009, 08:01:41 PM
My first job was: I'm young. I've intended to get a job for a while but... laziness triumphs over all!  :(

Lucky!

I almost forgot to say Welcome.  Welcome!


It just occurred to me that if we could find more corn, we'd be multicorns. Why didn't any of you think of this?   :P

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Quote from: Pica Pica on April 10, 2009, 04:47:37 AM
so do i, i have some real good 'uns.

oh, i'm reading a bit of a story at a small (very small) literary festival. Though i did et to have a chat with Jean Ure and Iain (M) Banks.

If you become famous, I'm stealing your boots.

Lying is the best position to sleep in, eh, Rebs?  *eyes Rebis suspiciously*  :P

multicorns...*shakes head*  >:-)  hehe.

You're in rare form today, Rebs!  :-*

Unicorns R smarter
would you like less corns that  are smart
or lots of dumb corns

Any corns can beat me in a math exam.

There's lots of corn syrup in everything we eat these days. Hope that's not why unis are extinct.

Quote from: Saraloop on April 11, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
There's lots of corn syrup in everything we eat these days. Hope that's not why unis are extinct.

There might not be any corn syrup in your food, if you were celebrating Passover. On the other hand, we've gone through 2 dozen eggs in 3 days.

S

Ooh! questionaires!
tho it was intended for Other person, you can't stop me from posting.

When I'm angry: I get hyperactive and make jokes about everything, eventually getting so hyper that my mind explodes into itself, and I have to lay down for at least 20 hours.

When I'm sad: I rarely feel "not sad", except when I'm high on cough syrup.

When I'm lonely: I look for somebody to talk to on the interbuttz or IRL, depending what seems like less trouble (usually the intardnuts)

When I'm happy: I am hallucinating

The best year of my life was: This one, because I have bad memory and I don't remember exactly how awesome where the other ones.

Lying is: Impossible. If you say something different than what really happened, the person whom you say it to will believe that that is what happened, and then there will be a conflict of "point of views", but that doesn't mean that the lie is invalid.
I don't lie because "transfering accurate information" is important to me.

My current annoyance is: Being unable to finish a job I have, and it is so simple...

I want to buy: A dress, a laptop and a ticket to anywhere.

If you visited the place I'm from: I'd steal a wallet. And show you around, take you to dinner (pay with your money) and do fun stuff.

If I died today: I secretely wish that'd happen, but it has never happened so far.

My first job was: Making a program for some dude who gave me the worst advice ever, sending me into a journey of mediocrity.

I collect: Thoughts and dreams.

Yay :D

re: corns
A unicorn and another unicorn get married and become bicorn, then they have children and they are known as the multicorns. Then Tony the tiger comes an takes them all and that's what you eat in the morning, dead unicorns.

When I'm angry:  You don't want to ever see that.  Few people have.  It's not pretty.


When I'm sad: I walk, fifteen miles tends to end it


When I'm lonely: I go the the Russian River Brewery, or to Specs, that's what bars are for.


When I'm happy: I'm a good person to be around.


The best year of my life was:  Last year was pretty good, next year will be better.


Lying is: Not telling the truth, omitting parts of it, humm, I have to think on that.


My current annoyance is: I try not to find things annoying, otherwise the list would be endless.


I want to buy: The new Dylan CD when it comes out in a few weeks


If you visited the place I'm from:  You would not want to leave.  Many people consider it one of the most beautiful places on earth.


If I died today: I'd be dead tomorrow too.  On the plus side, VISA and MasterCard are going to be pretty mad


My first job was: Paper route.  Midwest, in the winter too.


I collect:  Nothing really.  I used to collect all sorts of things, but got rid of it all and never started again.  I guess the closest thing I have to a collection is the sticky passes I put on my file cabnet (its covered in them) and all the laminates I have on a string.

Quote from: Simone Louise on April 11, 2009, 12:40:02 PM
There might not be any corn syrup in your food, if you were celebrating Passover. On the other hand, we've gone through 2 dozen eggs in 3 days.

S

Mmmmm, matzo brei  ;D

Z

Quote from: Zythyra on April 11, 2009, 03:16:32 PM
Mmmmm, matzo brei  ;D

Z

Yes, some eggs went into that. And a couple in the chopped chicken liver (people who wouldn't normally go near liver, ask for mine--strange), 5 in the Italian nut cake (Torta del Rei), 1 boiled egg for each of the 10 who surrounded our seder table. It adds up.

Tonight, I have to figure what to cook with the leftover turkey. For the seder, I cooked a 13-pound turkey outside over charcoal and a little hickory. It was good, but we had lots of food. Raw veggies with two dips (one my daughter's guacamole) to eat during the service, Hillel sandwich, the eggs, matzah ball soup, chopped liver, sweet potato puree, asparagus, cranberry sauce, and fresh fruit and my daughter's caramel-chocolate-covered-matzah for dessert. We did a pretty good job of celebrating freedom for all. I've done a ton of dishes since.

My best to all who are celebrating at this season,
S

Quote from: Saraloop on April 10, 2009, 05:26:52 PM
That's like I want.

What would be your ideal body now?

Probably the same, actually... maybe more masculine? It's probably a reaction to the fact that my appearance has gone really feminine compared to when I was little. I just kind of envisaged as my ideal self this angel-like, androgynous being that people would marvel at.  :laugh: I was an ambitious child...  8)

I like that now everyone else is doing the questionnaire, too! Haha, yep, I can never resist questionnaires either  :P I don't know why, it's just that if someone puts one in front of me, I have this uncontrollable urge to fill it in... you see! THIS is why I lose so much of my time to the internet!  ;D

And for some reason, 'multicorns' just conjures up the image of some scary unicorn with LOTS of horns on its head, like a hairbrush  :o "Unicorn, from the latin 'unos', one, and 'cornu', a horn" (Quote from The Last Unicorn. I love that movie!  8))

Quote from: Fenrir on April 11, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
And for some reason, 'multicorns' just conjures up the image of some scary unicorn with LOTS of horns on its head, like a hairbrush  :o

'Multicorns' sounds like someone desperately needs to see a podiatrist.

Quote from: KYLYKaHYT on April 11, 2009, 06:38:38 PM
'Multicorns' sounds like someone desperately needs to see a podiatrist.

...heh.

One day, Simone, I'm going to show up at your doorstep hungry.


Ha!  I'm going to do it too...

When I'm angry:  It's a rare occurrence.  It makes me feel like I could lift a car.

When I'm sad: I listen to music.

When I'm lonely: I hang out in our living room as opposed to my bedroom.

When I'm happy: I'm fun!  I can have fun doing anything.

The best year of my life was:  I decided this year that every year from now on is going to be better than the last.

Lying is: A lot of work.

My current annoyance is: listening to my roommate's annoyances, lectures on pet food, and her stories that aren't funny.

I want to buy: a winning lottery ticket

If you visited the place I'm from:  You'd have some peace and quiet.  And clean air!  It's nice.

If I died today: I'd be dead.  And I'd have gotten a mostly free education.

My first job was: doing inventory at a music store...counting reeds...ugh.

I collect:  information, music, and stories.

ahh...I feel better now.  I love questionnaires, quizzes, and countdowns!

Quote from: Simone Louise on April 11, 2009, 12:40:02 PM
There might not be any corn syrup in your food, if you were celebrating Passover. On the other hand, we've gone through 2 dozen eggs in 3 days.

Wow! That's a LOT of huevos!  :icon_blink:

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Being the good and devout heathen that I am, I personally prefer to stick with spring fertility rituals that are a little less metaphorical (and fattening).  :D  >:-)  ;D

When I'm angry: I hate myself


When I'm sad: I wonder why


When I'm lonely: I think of my friends


When I'm happy: It shows


The best year of my life was: my 113th acid trip

Lying is: for cowards


My current annoyance is: narcissistic people


I want to buy: just what I need to live

If you visited the place I'm from: you would never go home


If I died today:It wouldn't matter

My first job was: bailing hay


I collect: memories

I don't know about multi-corns, but consider the Bicorn. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolo-mfg.com%2F805b.jpg&hash=17e3e0976c2e51687a31dd13bf4aeddf40821182)

Guaranteed: people will notice your bicycle when you blast them with this beauty.

When I'm angry: I either yell back or bite my lip and become very quiet. Sometimes slam doors.

When I'm sad: I savor the feeling.

When I'm lonely: That's too rare an occurrence to generalize. I like time alone.

When I'm happy: I skip.

The best year of my life was: Back in the 1970s, when I designed a small computer, developing Japanese (Katakana) and Hebrew keyboards for it, and spending weeks in Italy working with an international team to develop software for a version Olivetti would sell.

Lying is: something that leads to problems down the road. Instead, I learned to tell the truth in a way that nobody believed it.

My current annoyance is: Being unable to prioritize or get done all that I want and think I ought to be able to do.

I want to buy: a light, quickly assembled, safe and agile folding kayak.

If you visited the place I'm from: You could find the house, the science museum, and the lake, but so much has changed since I left.

If I died today: I'd ask that you write on my tombstone, "an unfinished symphony".

My first job was: delivering prescription for a pharmacy on my bicycle.

I collect: everything, especially paper and dust.

do we have to extend the umbrella to include Bicorns?

I've read books that say corns can be uni or multi, but not Bi. It's not natural. 

Just because I've read books, it doesn't mean I agree with them.    :laugh:

My turn  :)

When I'm angry: I punch walls and go arggh!

When I'm sad: I savour the feeling- ooo me too. I moop.

When I'm lonely: I'm usually at the edge of a large crowd or in a beutiful park on a sunny day alone. I don't like it.

When I'm happy: I sing all the time. I smile and I have a very short attention span.

The best year of my life was: 2001, i just remember drinking and playing and laughing. More like that please.

Lying is: fun, if it's a narrative lie and called fiction.

My current annoyance is: My evil computer, the district line and people who don't give me jobs

I want to buy: an ibook and a flat

If you visited the place I'm from: You'd get robbed by a six year old.

If I died today: I'd be miffed, what a waste of time.

My first job was: sitting in an air tight vault with the door open, rubbing cow fat into old leather book covers.

I collect: everything and often.

You punch walls, ginger?  :laugh:

When I'm angry: I drink.


When I'm sad: I look on the Doe Network for people who have it worse.


When I'm lonely: pet my dog.


When I'm happy: it seems unnatural and highly suspicious.


The best year of my life was: 1999. i was young, dumb, and....


Lying is: depends on the situation.


My current annoyance is: the endo taking her sweet time.


I want to buy: a new car


If you visited the place I'm from: you'd be stuck in a suburban time warp.


If I died today: i'd be pissed i didnt get anything done.


My first job was: bagging groceries. paper or plastic, anyone?


I collect: nothing.

Quote from: Rebis on April 13, 2009, 06:20:47 PM
do we have to extend the umbrella to include Bicorns?

It would be difficult to ride a bicycle with bicorns while holding an umbrella...

Mary Poppins would ride the umbrella.


I have been busy which is why I haven't been around here much.
I'm tired of not being hired. I keep telling them how great I am. Little do they know they are passing up an opportunity to make their businesses better and their work easier.

Let us know if you want us at your next interview as cheerleaders and a brass band--ala Elle Wood's friends in Legally Blonde. I can trumpet your greatness.

Best of luck,
S

Thank you.

And your trumpeting wouldn't be a lie because I am great.   :)

Quote from: Rebis on April 16, 2009, 06:46:13 PM
Thank you.

I am great.   :)

We bow to your greatness, Oh Great One.  :-*

When I'm angry: Depends how angry.  Usually write a letter/essay about it.  More angry than that, go for a walk.  Really really angry, hit and kick walls, bang head on things, chew through mouthguard, etc. 

When I'm sad:  Go for walk.  Look at flowers.  Think about friends who have it worse.  Do something nice for them.

When I'm lonely:   Don't get lonely much.  Usually only if I'm sad or angry AND by myself.  Take care of those, not lonely anymore.

When I'm happy:  Spread it around a bit.

The best year of my life was:  Pick any year since I started living with my current partner.

Lying is:  A necessary evil.

My current annoyance is:  Insomnia.

I want to buy:  A plane ticket to the US.

If you visited the place I'm from:  You'd probably be bored.

If I died today:  I was probably stabbed by an irate Daily Mail reader.

My first job was:  Unpaid: worked for Oxfam.  Paid: Library assistant.

I collect: PDFs.