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Title: It All Depends Where You Are
Post by: Natasha on May 18, 2009, 05:17:23 PM
Post by: Natasha on May 18, 2009, 05:17:23 PM
It All Depends Where You Are
http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2009/05/it-all-depends-where-you-are.html (http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2009/05/it-all-depends-where-you-are.html)
Zoe Brain
5/18/09
So I'm not bonkers in France, though I am elsewhere. Yet it seems crazy to me that this was a political decision, rather than one arrived at by medical authorities.
Never mind. Remember I'm legally female in Australia, and legally male in the UK. Except when it comes to my UK passport. This seems equally Pythonesque in its absurdity.
We - and the psychiatric establishment - have been treading on thin ice for decades now. The patient has to be diagnosed with the "mental illness" GID (Gender Identity Disorder) in order to qualify for surgery, but anyone with a severe "mental illness" cannot possibly give informed consent. There is a basic contradiction here, one that everyone has ignored because "the system works". Well, it's only a matter of time before someone notices, and legislation is passed to prevent surgery.
http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2009/05/it-all-depends-where-you-are.html (http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2009/05/it-all-depends-where-you-are.html)
Zoe Brain
5/18/09
So I'm not bonkers in France, though I am elsewhere. Yet it seems crazy to me that this was a political decision, rather than one arrived at by medical authorities.
Never mind. Remember I'm legally female in Australia, and legally male in the UK. Except when it comes to my UK passport. This seems equally Pythonesque in its absurdity.
We - and the psychiatric establishment - have been treading on thin ice for decades now. The patient has to be diagnosed with the "mental illness" GID (Gender Identity Disorder) in order to qualify for surgery, but anyone with a severe "mental illness" cannot possibly give informed consent. There is a basic contradiction here, one that everyone has ignored because "the system works". Well, it's only a matter of time before someone notices, and legislation is passed to prevent surgery.
Title: Re: It All Depends Where You Are
Post by: tekla on May 18, 2009, 07:04:13 PM
Post by: tekla on May 18, 2009, 07:04:13 PM
The patient has to be diagnosed with the "mental illness" GID (Gender Identity Disorder) in order to qualify for surgery, but anyone with a severe "mental illness" cannot possibly give informed consent. There is a basic contradiction here, one that everyone has ignored because "the system works". Well, it's only a matter of time before someone notices, and legislation is passed to prevent surgery.
I wonder about this a lot. Really. Added to that are the people I listen to that also suffer from other conditions that may be co-present, if not codependent. It's an interesting Catch-22 to be sure. If you have, say BPD, or OCD AND GID, how do you really know which is which, and say, if we could treat the OCD, and make the GID symptoms go away, is that a better course of treatment.
The real problem here is that its all based on a medical model, and when you use that as a basic premise, you're pretty much confined to a medical intervention based solution.
I wonder about this a lot. Really. Added to that are the people I listen to that also suffer from other conditions that may be co-present, if not codependent. It's an interesting Catch-22 to be sure. If you have, say BPD, or OCD AND GID, how do you really know which is which, and say, if we could treat the OCD, and make the GID symptoms go away, is that a better course of treatment.
The real problem here is that its all based on a medical model, and when you use that as a basic premise, you're pretty much confined to a medical intervention based solution.
Title: Re: It All Depends Where You Are
Post by: lisagurl on May 18, 2009, 07:48:37 PM
Post by: lisagurl on May 18, 2009, 07:48:37 PM
It is simple, people have their own opinions and culture that are not based on anything but beliefs. Words mean different things to different people because no two perspectives are exactly alike.
Title: Re: It All Depends Where You Are
Post by: Mister on May 18, 2009, 08:35:16 PM
Post by: Mister on May 18, 2009, 08:35:16 PM
Great article. As trans people we need to be deemed 'crazy' enough to be allowed to transition, but 'sane' enough to get greenlighted for surgery. it's ridiculous.