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Hey guys and dolls.

Would you consider yourself stealth?

I'm in the middle of my transition so stealth isn't really an option for me at this point. I'm not sure that 'stealth' in the usual sense is even possible anymore. I agree with Matilda though my goal is just to assimilate into society as my true gender. There are always going to be people who know about my past but as time goes on hopefully the number of people who know about it that I deal with on a day to day basis will decrease to single digits. I also didn't vote because I didn't feel any of the categories applied to my situation. Interesting topic as usual though Nero.

Quote from: Matilda on July 26, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
For the sake of this thread, I am going to use the term "stealth" although I have to admit that I prefer to say that I have blended in/assimilated as my true gender, and now I have a woman's life.  Simple as that. 

Anyway, only my medical providers, family and boyfriend know my PRIVATE medical history.  My employer, friends, acquaintances, don't know, why should they?  So based on what I have just said, I consider myself to be "stealth".



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P.S.  I didn't vote because I didn't see an option that applied to my situation.

added an option.  :)

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also added a 'middle of transition' option. Does that work Wendy?  :)

don't know, don't care. I'm not a social person in 'real life' anyway, so it doesn't matter much. Yes, I am physically a girl. Yes, I think of myself as a man, but why bother trying to explain that to someone? If they're honestly interested, they can look it up online.

Those who 'mistake' me (see me as I see myself) will think I'm a man, and that's great. Those who don't, and ask, can have a very simple and blunt "I dress like this because I want to" and if that's not enough for them, they can take their interfering, nosy ass and ->-bleeped-<- off.  :)

<-- not the sort who's keen on educating other people at the expense of personal safety.

Most people haven't a clue about my past, or if they do, they're not good at solving puzzles. In either case, I don't much care what people have figured out as long as they treat me with decency.

Quote from: Nero on July 26, 2009, 05:56:35 PM
added an option.  :)

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also added a 'middle of transition' option. Does that work Wendy?  :)

In that case I just added my vote. Thanks!  :)

Middle of transition.  Work knows as do most of my coworkers, I have been there forever.  Doctors know, of course.  Close friends and ex of course know.  And my partner know too.

I am not out and proud, but I am not 'stealth' ether.  Like Matilda said I just blend in.  If they guess or have a remote idea, I really done care.  I am just another woman trying to get by.



Janet

Don't know don't care.  I'm still early in transition (3 months) and so most people I deal with day-to-day know of my history.  At the same time, most everyone I deal with day-to-day accepts me as a woman or as a neo-woman.  I think some people think I'm a fulltime crossdresser, but they don't seem to have a problem with that and may not know the difference. 

I'm just me, and people accept that.  (And I am finally very happy being me. ;D)

- Kate

Quote from: Janet Lynn on July 26, 2009, 09:03:22 PMI am not out and proud, but I am not 'stealth' ether.  Like Matilda said I just blend in.  If they guess or have a remote idea, I really done care.  I am just another woman trying to get by.

agree with this for me too. Most everyone who knows me already knows I'm transitioning anyway so no "stealth" there, just out and my friends have been awesome about it. To the general public I'm full time and not having any issues with it so don't really know or care. I find most people to be just as courteous to me as they are going to be to anyone anyway.

I voted, out and proud :icon_joy:! I'm not stealth in the least bit. I won't go around introducing myself as a transsexual, but in most situations I don't have any qualms about outing myself if the subject comes up. But sometimes it does get a little complicated... Like, for example, at work it's hard to keep track of who knows what. Some people know I'm trans, some know I'm gay, some know I'm gay and trans, and some know nothing. But people talk, so I'm sure there are people who at least suspect more than they're willing to ask. I try to answer their questions as best I can in hopes that I might then be able to project an image of (relative) normality on the subject for them, and help them to understand us better.

At this point in my life I can't see myself going stealth, but I wonder if by the time I've had surgery (and my legal gender changed) and been on T a bit longer I'll still feel the same way. The fact that I am gay  and therefore will be involved in the LGBT community stealth or not makes it a little easier. Not to say that gays don't do their share of discriminating against trans people, but in general, I'd think that a gay man would be more open to the concept than a straight one.

I chose the closest option, but reality is that besides my family (who is 3000 miles away), my doctor, my girlfriend and one friend, I am stealth.

You'd have to ask the people I interact with.

When I'm out I just go about my things and do whatever I need to do.  Sometimes I think someone might look at me kinda funny but who knows, there may be a bird about ready to crap on my head.

Today we played golf with a couple we were paired up with there and I have no idea what they knew or didn't know.  Five hours on the course and over an hour in the clubhouse and neither of us can say if we were read or not.  Either they didn't care or they didn't know.  All I know is we had a really nice time with them and they want to play again.

So it's tough to tell sometimes.  And you'll never hear me ask, "Hey! Did you know I was trans?"  ;)

I'm definitely not stealth.  Though when my personal safety is at stake I am.  But everyone at my work, all of my family and friends--they know my gender history.  And it's fine.  It's just an interesting thing about me, like that I'm left handed.

Also since I'm pre-op/non-op-ish it allows my girlfriend and I a lot of options in the bedroom, because we are both very comfortable with ourselves and very secure in our gender and sexuality(she's lesbian,  I'm bi).

I've sometimes accidentally ended up in situations where I was stealth, and I hate them, because I'm always worried the person will find out and think I misled them, when that's not the case.  But I do try to be as upfront as possible about my gender history.  It's nothing to be ashamed of, in my opinion. 

I also feel like I'm a semi-effective advocate for trans people, because I don't embody a stereotype, I'm easy to get along with, and am just in general a cool girl.  Most of the time people who are initially upset about it, once they get to be around me, they end up loving me.

I would consider myself stealth... and I was born/live in Ohio. No one knows except the people who knew me before that I still talk to and my family.

I can't think of the last time I needed to show anyone my birth certificate other than when I had to use it for my name change and when I signed up to play ball when I was 9. It is a pain that Ohio won't even change your NAME on your BC, let alone the sex, but I think it can be worked around. They will change your ID info here, and I eventually plan on getting a passport to use in place of my BC.

(I actually haven't yet been able to change the sex legally on my ID here because I don't have the money for surgery yet, but as far as I know no one notices/cares and if someone ever does notice it's a funny typo that I never noticed before. So my answer doesn't change.)

Once in a while I'll hear something about Ohio or one of the other 2 or 3 states like it, and about how it's "impossible" here. Like I said, it is a huge pain compared to most states, I'm pretty sure I've heard of people being able to get married here after getting their IDs changed and all of that taken care of, despite the BC not being able to be changed. But I can't believe they won't let us change anything on the BC...

It's going to be quite some time before I have the option of going stealth, and I really don't know what I'll decide at that point.  I've gone back and forth on the issue.  If I stay here in this small town, I doubt I'll have a choice.  :D  People talk.  But I might move back to Chicago, at which point I'll have to make a decision.

I don't think I'll ever be "stealth"..
I mean,.. I won't be shouting it from the rooftops, but I won't avoid it, won't hide it..

I'm out on a need to know basis: family, friends, work (transitioned on the job), doctors.  I don't advertise, nor do I feel a need to tell acquaintances, store clerks, etc.

I'm out when I want but as Matilda said, I have pretty much assimilated and live my life as male.  Actually other than when I'm on trans sites online or at group I don't really think about being trans, or that I transitioned.  I'm just me and comfortable being myself.  I like how I look now, I like how I feel now.  That's all that matters.


Jay

I don't wear a sign around my neck, but I don't hide it either.

In my day to day life, most people do not know.  It was an interesting moment at work when a lunch time conversation turned to a discussion about my transition and one of the people there, who started after I came out, was amazed/flabbergasted/incredulous that I was ever male.

As Julie said, it really isn't something that you can easily slip into a conversation.  If someone asks, I give them a direct answer.  I don't dodge or weave.  I'm not about to give up living one lie to live another. 

So the most appropriate answer is "Out and Proud".  Because I am that.

-Sandy

I just am what I am. I am now meeting people for the first time and they will always have known me as male, and most are clueless about my past. I do have a 9 and 10 year old  kids and stealth is not an option there. They still call me mom on accident at times or say dad and she. I am just moving forward and starting my life as a male, will be interesting to see how I would answer this question in 10 years.
Cheers,
Myles

I'm not stealth, I can't be because I don't pass (i'm pre everything) so if I want people to treat me like the guy I am I have to out myself.

If and when I pass I don't see myself being stealth either. We will see.

I voted "in the middle of transition, not sure".  It's impossible for me to be stealth right now because all of the people I hang out with are people I've known for a while and I'm not about to give up friendships for the sake of transition.  But when I meet new people at parties and whatnot, I don't tell them I'm trans because it's unnecessary.  Also I'm going back to college in the fall and I don't plan on telling people (I go to a huge school where nobody knows anybody, so there won't be a problem of people recognizing me from last year or anything).

Quote from: Matilda on July 27, 2009, 06:38:59 PM
Tasha...ROFL ;D

Do you mean that you are not "PROUD" of what you "REALLY ARE"?  How dare you use your being a woman as a way to "HIDE THE TRUTH", huh?  ;)  >:-)


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:laugh: i know. it's hopeless.

Around the area where I live, I am mostly stealth. People that know me on line because of my business do know my of my former male persona. Since I wrote the book, total stealth is out of the question. 

When I first started to transition, I wanted to be totally stealth and lead a double life with my business clients never knowing who I really was.  I thought back then that I would never really pass in public either but when I made the plunge into full time, I did pass.  At the same time though, I began to feel less and less that being a transsexual woman was something to hide.  Now, I will tell just about anyone if it seems logical that they know.  I never live or refer to that old identity and for most of my waking hours, I don't think about stealth.  I just live the life of a typical woman.   

Maggie

Quote from: Leslie on July 16, 2009, 06:19:56 AM
there are also many transpeople that leave their countries once they've transitioned.  I'm one of them.

I never thought I was going to be able to. I wasn't stealth material ~wink~.  But my life has turned out very different from what I expected.  I moved away, I moved to a different country to get away from the trans stuff & I intend to keep it that way.

Not sure if I am or not. I don't try to talk about it with people who don't know, but I seem to have a knack for outing myself to my friends. Since i'm in such a small town it seems the majority don't know about me unless I start hanging around a guy. Then its all "OMG, did you hear this about her?"  ::) Other then that its pretty much pure miss or ma'am.

So partial stealth? Stealthy?

Only my family and some close friends know about my past, Im 52 now, started transition at 16, had srs at 28, so work it out.
Im now living as a typical woman, some men who had no idea saw me as a ''lovely lady'' which is a complement, but it comes back to haunt me again and again, I was engaged to my BF, but this is now off for the moment till he gets his mind together since I came out to him a few months ago, sometimes I regret I tolded him Im trans, well now at least he knows, bloody hell, we're still an item, but he hasnt tolded his family, thats the whole God dam thing being stealth, he was first attracted to me and saw me as a ''beautiful woman'' his words, not mine, Im still all woman, just with a pass that people ether except or don't, just my 2cents.
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i suppose it is a shallow way for me to see things, but being called "sir" really sucks.

Quote from: pretty pauline on July 29, 2009, 04:03:33 PM
Only my family and some close friends know about my past, Im 52 now, started transition at 16, had srs at 28, so work it out.
Im now living as a typical woman, some men who had no idea saw me as a ''lovely lady'' which is a complement, but it comes back to haunt me again and again, I was engaged to my BF, but this is now off for the moment till he gets his mind together since I came out to him a few months ago, sometimes I regret I tolded him Im trans, well now at least he knows, bloody hell, we're still an item, but he hasnt tolded his family, thats the whole God dam thing being stealth, he was first attracted to me and saw me as a ''beautiful woman'' his words, not mine, Im still all woman, just with a pass that people ether except or don't, just my 2cents.
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That sucks, Pauline. :(

I take your story as a lesson.  I should change my vote to "out and proud" because at this point – only three months as Kate – I don't care who knows I'm trans.  Most people I see daily know anyway.  My stance when I go out of town, where people don't know, is sort of "I am what I am and so what?"

I don't wear a big red T on my forehead, but otherwise it is no big deal.  Perhaps it boils down to being comfortable with yourself.

And then I think that it would be so nice to always be treated as the woman I am becoming.  It would be wonderful to never have to worry about having lived all those years pretending to be a man.

*sigh*
Kate

Somewhat, I'm stealth except for work, close friends, and partner.

I am just coming out to all the people in my 2 bowling leagues  and they all will know in 4 weeks if they don't already know, those i already have told are spreading the word and others have seen for themselves, the city i live in i know allot of people so stealth is not an option.

Those that see me all the time still see him, those that don't know me see Paula. If people ask I'm more than willing to talk to them as long as they aren't a jerk about it.

By the time i retire in 8 or so years my surgeries should be complete and i will retire somewhere warm year around and be as stealth as possible.

Paula

Quote from: Kevin on July 27, 2009, 06:01:36 AM
I would consider myself stealth... and I was born/live in Ohio. No one knows except the people who knew me before that I still talk to and my family.

I can't think of the last time I needed to show anyone my birth certificate other than when I had to use it for my name change and when I signed up to play ball when I was 9. It is a pain that Ohio won't even change your NAME on your BC, let alone the sex, but I think it can be worked around. They will change your ID info here, and I eventually plan on getting a passport to use in place of my BC.

(I actually haven't yet been able to change the sex legally on my ID here because I don't have the money for surgery yet, but as far as I know no one notices/cares and if someone ever does notice it's a funny typo that I never noticed before. So my answer doesn't change.)

Once in a while I'll hear something about Ohio or one of the other 2 or 3 states like it, and about how it's "impossible" here. Like I said, it is a huge pain compared to most states, I'm pretty sure I've heard of people being able to get married here after getting their IDs changed and all of that taken care of, despite the BC not being able to be changed. But I can't believe they won't let us change anything on the BC...

You can change name on an Ohio birth certificate, although you get an amended birth certificate that shows your old name as well, so it wouldn't help with stealth.

Cloaking Shields at full power, but there seems to be a slight fluctuation in power, failure is likely inevitable.

I have only just seen myself for what, I think, I really am. So other than (to use a southern slang) all y'alls, myself, and the therapist I going to for the first time tomorrow, no one knows. Though I think there may be some out there that have known before me.  ???

Just a couple of years ago I would have said sure I was stealth, but the truth is that I pretty much got clocked every day of my life. Everybody knew I was trans except of course me. My grandmother of all people was bitching at me the other day about losing weight. She actually had the gall to tell me to put my weight back on because I look to much like a girl. Unfortunately, I fear that when I do begin transitioning I won't be passable that way either. Kind of naturally stuck in the middle I guess. Probably will never really be "stealth".

Quote from: Mr. Fox on July 30, 2009, 12:36:06 PM
You can change name on an Ohio birth certificate, although you get an amended birth certificate that shows your old name as well, so it wouldn't help with stealth.

Yeah, as far as I know they just attach your name change papers officially to your birth certificate, or something like that... do you know what they do exactly?

I've never even bothered sending my papers to get my BC amended because I don't see the point if they're going to have my old name on it... if I really need my BC I can show them name change papers with it, I don't see the point of bothering in contacting Vital Statistics.

I'm at a tipping point.  Not really "out", not really "in" either.  Definitely transitioning ;-)  I live and work and dress feminine every day.  Haven't worn men's clothes in years. BUT most days I do not wear the three red flags when out and about during the day:  dresses, skirts, obvious/heavy makeup.  I do go out at night in my normal mode or dressed to impress... in my town etc.  I am making a slow turn for the world, so when they do see me in dresses/skirts etc, they will think "yeah, he was pretty girly for the last few months..."

I do not like this phase and all its wardrobe changes, or the worry about when I'm going to far with the other clothes.  Still, because of business ( I'm self employeed ) I need to be careful in how I present to the world in general.

At first, I thought that was the only way to be able to live this life. Then as time went on and I eventually had to let myself out to the world, amazingly, I found it unecessary to be completely "stealth". I own my own retail business and have for 15 years. So stealth is almost out of the question when it comes to existing customers. It's centered around mostly male dominated material. So, yeah, I had concerns when I wanted to go full time. Turns out though, that fear of losing business was unfounded and my customers relate to Dawn just as well (actually better) than they did to Don. I really think they like me more now than they did as a male. Go figure! So now I'm just a women living in a man's world and trying to take it over! And, loving every minute of it. If they don't ask, I don't tell. If they ask with respect I answer in kind.



Dawn

I can't be stealth because I just came out last month and Im totally pre op. But if  I decide to transition, by the time I'm done if I move far away I will never tell anyone I was born female except for a serious partner.

I'm still in the middle of things.

Family and friends know the deal.

People at my place of study do not. Small town and a class full of young nerds? We nerds aren't the most observant of people, so I get taken at face value  8). The staff have been respectful enough so far not to out me.

I wasn't sure if I'd feel the need to tell anyone or not. I haven't so far, and I don't think I'm going to - I'm enjoying things how they are too much to even consider it. So I suppose for now, I'm "socially stealth".

Yup I'm stealth.  GRS changes a lot of things, your mindset & outlook on life amongst them.

stealth and in the closet...I am terrified.  can i transition without telling my family?

Yep....in the main....

But its mainly that way as peeps assume nowt else....lol

Brianna, the ugly duckling transitioned in secret so yes you can.  so long as you never expect to see your family and friends again. 
I suppose it's possible t transition in secret but how would anyone know and treat you as the new person?  Kind of defeats the objective to my way of thinking.

lots of us can point to having definite crossgendered interests and traits as kids so our transitioning wasn't such a shock.

on the other hand if you are terrified of telling them then you need to give yourself some affirmation that transition is for you by getting some input from a therapist and trying living as the person you think you are.

Complete stealth is almost impossible to achieve, i think. There is always a person who knows about you be it family or doctors or friends.
A lot of people know about me, for example my parents and siblings,  some doctors, my boss and of course my man. Yet i still consider myself stealth because of they way I present myself to the world. Nobody needs to know unless i think necessary. Otherwise it will only cause awkwardness.

Quote from: pretty pauline on July 29, 2009, 04:03:33 PM
I was engaged to my BF, but this is now off for the moment till he gets his mind together since I came out to him a few months ago, sometimes I regret I tolded him Im trans, well now at least he knows,

You are still together and he considers the situation instead of acting on emotions. That is in all honesty a good thing and a sign of his love for you.
Please let us know how this develops, i am very curious and a bit of a sucker for love stories.

Kind of similar to Cruella actually.

I just don't advertise - and people simply take me at face value - so I certainly don't bother to tell them any different. It's probably a bit different for the likes of Cruella, Alison and I  though cos we have all been postop for so long that some people have even forgotten about it.

I suppose I'm not strictly in stealth in that I would tell someone if I genuinely thought it would be helpful or relevant, and indeed it is kind of admitted to tacitly on my website if you know where to look.

But all of that is very very different from advertising, campaigning and openly proclaiming. I guess I just don't see my personal history as a very important issue one way or the other, although I do try to keep my facebook and other social networking free from any mention of the issue because I do have friends who don't know and I don't want to potentially embarrass them if the don't wish to do so.

So actually I am probably partly at least but really I don't know and I don't care.

For me it depends on how you view transexualism and the word stealth. Because I view transexualism as a medical condition I feel it shouldn't define who I am... so really there is no worry of having someone feel cheated if they find out. To me it's no different to say someone who was born with a birthmark or mole on their face that later they have removed. Should they tell people when they meet someone "hey I have to be completely honest with you, i was born with a birthmark on my face and had it removed". I don't see how it should be treated any different, especially when the media hype it up. In reality it ain't no thing... and most peoples reactions only back that up.
It doesn't define me, I am female and I feel that more often than not people present either male or female as a whole.. and if they present as something else then sure it may come up in conversation. Being "stealth" is not something I actively seek to do it just comes about from me being me.
Of course saying that.... with still being just on this side of the op-fence legally I no doubt get the hairy eyeball when my records show the indescripancy.. but that s only a matter of time.

Some people are cool about it all and tell others without any problem but I guess I worry that due to peoples general misunderstanding of the word transsexualism no doubt from the media and social stigmatism I feel that peoples views can unnecessary change when you tell them. Even when you pass completely as soon as they find out they change and speak to you like you're either a horny drag queen or something worth less than an empty carton of milk. To avoid that risk I just avoid the topic.
If the world praised us and held us up like gods then I would still see it as a medical condition that doesn't really make great conversation fodder. I'm not exactly proud of being born the way I was..but that's just me :P

I am what I am.

That includes my past.
What good is a life full of fear that people will "find out"

I've nothing to hide.  I've nothing to shout off the rooftops about, but I still have nothing to hide.

Quote from: Sandy on July 27, 2009, 02:03:49 PM
I don't wear a sign around my neck, but I don't hide it either.

In my day to day life, most people do not know.  It was an interesting moment at work when a lunch time conversation turned to a discussion about my transition and one of the people there, who started after I came out, was amazed/flabbergasted/incredulous that I was ever male.

As Julie said, it really isn't something that you can easily slip into a conversation.  If someone asks, I give them a direct answer.  I don't dodge or weave.  I'm not about to give up living one lie to live another. 

So the most appropriate answer is "Out and Proud".  Because I am that.

-Sandy

Thanks, Sandy. 

As I'm about to go full-time in about a week, I plan to be just like Sandy here.  When matters of good sense and personal safety dictate it, I'm inclined to be stealth.  Otherwise, I'm out there.  Our gay sisters and brothers of the 1960s and 1970s blazed the "out and proud" path ultimately with good results, I believe. 

Only by being out will people get accustomed to having us around, familiar with and eventually informed about us.  That's not to say that getting to that point won't be a challenge.  It darned sure will ... a huge one.  All of you on here know very well that lots of folks (sadly) really are just plain bigoted and stupid.  Sorry, but they really are.  That's life.  It won't change.  What to do?  Avoid these types whenever we can. 

Otherwise, get out, get known, get real.   Just my opinion.   

Quote from: Lacey Lynne on October 21, 2010, 11:57:32 PM
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Only by being out will people get accustomed to having us around, familiar with and eventually informed about us.  That's not to say that getting to that point won't be a challenge.  It darned sure will ... a huge one.  All of you on here know very well that lots of folks (sadly) really are just plain bigoted and stupid.  Sorry, but they really are.  That's life.  It won't change.  What to do?  Avoid these types whenever we can. 

Otherwise, get out, get known, get real.   Just my opinion.

This made think of something.... why do people, the general public kick up fuss in the first place?
Is it because they can tell? Do they attack the ones that pass ajnd are stealth or the ones that stand out as something like say a man in a dress?
I've thought before how the general publics view of transsexuals are not of those that are stealth but of those that don't pass. If we all passed would there be as much violence and hate crimes?
When I see those that go "full time" it is a case of wake up one morning and put on guy clothes and then wake up the next morning and put on womans clothes... and go about their life.
I can totally understand how that can be confusing for some people especially compared to those that hold off and like megan stated in her thread, still presenting as a guy yet having everyone think of you as female and actually see the change to womans clothes as a relief more than say a shock!

Muffin, I think that by and large people get upset with us for two reasons: 1) They don't understand and perhaps think this is a sexual fetish or a rebellion against the social order, and 2) because we don't fit into their view of how the world 'should' be.

- Kate

two.... reasons... *writes it down in my journal of important facts and stuff*...thanks! ^_____^

Partially? Back home I'm not. Down here at school though I've had everything changed over in the Uni system - so aside from a few friends, and a few counsellors and some faculty members that I had to deal with... stealth at school. Not even out with most of my Queer commmunity friends down here, just with the other trans and a very select few gay/lesbians.. I think 1 in total? Lolz. So for 8 months of my year when I'm living here at Uni I'm basically stealth.

i want to be like 99% stealh.

only my parent know.

i want to live in society that think i was a hot women. =)))))))))

Yes, except for close friends and partner.

I picked this option because it is nearly dead on. Given my SO and close friends from my female life, I am stealth. People don't really know at work, given managers and what not who have access to such info, and I've been stealth at college for nearly a year. I've cut it close a few times at work because of little things with the offsite systems, onsite is all in my name Sebastien with a few exceptions. I do my best to keep any possible give away to my birth sex from others. I am even out to my two sisters, so that helps as well. I am just not out to my sisters' children :P , my parents and my grandma who lives with us.

Maybe someday soon I'll have the balls to let them know.

i reserve my definition of "stealth" for people who live their lives passing themselves off as something they are not.  if they feel they're something other than woman, in other words deceptive, lying, malevolent, not really female, then they're "stealth".

so no i'm not "stealth".  i'm female.

I'm in the first step of my transition (just look at my signature, lol) and I'm definitely "stealth" in that no one knows I'm male except for the members of the MS Rainbow Alliance. 

Once I transition more or can pass as male, I still won't be "stealth"...I'm never going to be "stealth", but I'm also never going to go around shouting that I'm FtM.

I would have to say some what stealth. To make a long story really short I have been told by my best friend that I could be my own sister. So when people inquire as to who I am because I look like some one they new, the old person that I impersonated. I told them that I'm his sister and so far every one believes that, it also helps when my best friend backs me up.

Have a peachy day,

Jalene