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4 September 2006
The Penis Preference
by Paul Aitken

"It's better to be a boy. Admit it, it's true."

QuoteA guy is never going to get pissy because some other guy forgot to call him

That's not true!

I've been totally bitched out before by a guy I just forgot to call back. 

I tried to read it...
then I got to this:

Quotegirls are better behaved, more caring, more giving, more even tempered, more likely to be exemplars of everything we recognize as worthy and good

And my eyes rolled so hard I fell out of my chair.

It's nonsense!
'Specially the "even tempered" part.

Well, gee, you know, when I was born a boy, I thought it was pretty awesome. ::)

Quote from: Heartwood on August 15, 2009, 03:08:22 PM
Well, gee, you know, when I was born a boy, I thought it was pretty awesome. ::)

Exactly. And then you realized as a kid the separation of societies worlds. The male, the female (I mean publically and socially for the most part), working, mom, dad. Etc...

You start to not only be intimidated by the girls room you're in and how freaking neat and stylish it is, but secretly want it and then the walls seem to close in and chew you out to scold you.

Well thats what I thought at least going to other peoples houses. .___.

My own house was usually much more trashy, even though there were pretty parts... Well the old one at least. This one is trash incarnate. Whittled out of styrofoam by a sadist who sold it and put it on the market or something.

as someone who works with police and people that do sex crimes, i have to say um no to this one

I was being sarcastic Kara. :P

QuoteYou've always had a feeling, not necessarily of superiority, but perhaps of being favored in some way.

there's enough BS in that one sentence to farm 40 acres.

Maybe for a Whole Guy (for lack of a simpler term) that's true but not for me. I've never ever felt favored at any time by any circumstance connected with being male in my life.

Indeed, much more often I felt a huge weight of unfulfilled expectations - of there being a standard I was supposed to live up to and utterly failing to achieve. Most of the time if I felt anything it was pitied, not favored.

QuoteThis sense of entitlement,

the thing is - the things that men are "entitled" to were never the things I wanted.

I mean sure, if you go back far enough to the point where no one took a woman seriously as a writer (for instance) then I'd understand...or if you are talking about a culture where you have to wear a burka and not drive or whatever...yeah, I get it.

But in the last 50 years or so? I can't imagine anything I could have not done had I been born female that I would have wanted to do.

Not that I presume to speak for all women obviously.

Quote from: Heartwood on August 15, 2009, 03:42:15 PM
I was being sarcastic Kara. :P

I'm sorry ._. I didn't sleep at all last night... And didn't get to eat all day. And got a blood test...

Quote from: Nero on August 15, 2009, 02:22:04 PM
"It's better to be a boy. Admit it, it's true."

not when you're really a girl but stuck in the body of one and told there's nothing you can do about it. Then it pretty much sucks. :-\

Awwwww Not.  Why do you think it is called grrrrrrl-power?

Janet

Probably wiser for me to keep my sociology background that screams take this article apart at the seams and worse out of the picture and just say...

Not for me...  >:-)

Quote from: dyssonance on August 16, 2009, 01:55:52 AM
Probably wiser for me to keep my sociology background that screams take this article apart at the seams and worse out of the picture and just say...

Not for me...  >:-)

aww have at it. it was posted for good discussion.  :)

Quote from: Nero on August 16, 2009, 01:59:28 AM
aww have at it. it was posted for good discussion.  :)

*good* discussion.  I'm not sure i could manage that whole "good" part, lol.

In explaining this, I'll try my best to objectively split my experiences as a person treated as male in society from those concurrent experiences of my disharmony as a female being treated as a male.  My whole life I watched other males intently to see if my feelings were shared by them all and fully suppressed, and that somehow my reflectful nature had caused me to unwittingly verbalize something better left in the depths of the subconscious.  To this day I still watch guys and ponder this. 

I've come to firmly believe that guys are innately more emotional, caring, and lighthearted than they end up being as adults.  What causes this change? The continuous drilling into their heads (including mine) to purge one's self of emotional expressiveness, frivolities, showing pain, unnecessary closeness to others unless you get sex.  And while growing up, there's also your "friends" taking pride in humiliating and hurting those weaker than themselves, especially other males and even animals, with a subtle reminder of what would happen to you lest you ever fail at being a convincing badass.  It's like you have to put up one emotional wall after another to get passing marks as a boy and earn your manhood.

And being MtF, this is all augmented by the feelings of dysphoria, disgust with becoming hairy, bulky, poorly proportionate from testosterone, and occasionally burning envy of those special beings that fate had seen fit to escape the hell of being born with a penis and all ensuing experiences.

I'm sure male adulthood is quite another story from adolescence with most of what described here less evident as people mature, but then again I'll never find out.  Since going full-time, I've felt freer than I could have possibly ever imagined in any pre-transition dream.

Being a guy certainly is easier than being a woman. I've had a lot more practice being a guy and I can do it with my eyes closed (literally). But that's simply not who I am. So for me, betraying my true self just for the sake of convenience really isn't "better."

Other than that, I can give you a lot of cons that I've come across in my time as an inmate in male prison.

-I never fit in with the "macho guys." These were the loud, obnoxious, juiced up guys who lifted weights, played football and drank beer. That's what their lives were like. I never felt like I could fit in...or that I should even try.
-I always felt distant from women. I think maybe I'm envious of them a little bit. But it's hard for me to feel comfortable around either sex just now.
-Umm...involuntary erections anyone? If you can be a guy without having a penis, then go for it. This is one of the very bad things that I don't like. So may guys seem to let it control their lives.
-The need to be all responsible and junk....never really clicked with me. That might be more of a personal thing with me due to my family issues, but really, I think of the traditional role a male has to fill in society. It looks like slavery and nonsense.

Mind you, I'm not transitioning for any of those reasons...I simply *want* to become a woman. But, I see very little of the male gender to recommend itself to anything. It's a domineering and ignorant form of life...at least I think so.

I don't find 'being a guy' easy at all.  In fact this is one of the things that tells me I'm not one.  I'm just not good at fitting in with guys, socializing with guys, relating to guys' viewpoints on things.  My friends are usually girls and I feel way more comfortable around girls.  I can put up an okay guy-impersonation, but eventually I think people sense that I'm just not good at it... at which point I revert to being awkward and quiet because it's safer doing that than just being myself.  There just isn't anything about (me) being a guy that I find appealing...

Quote from: Ketsy on August 16, 2009, 04:18:05 AM
I don't find 'being a guy' easy at all.  In fact this is one of the things that tells me I'm not one.  I'm just not good at fitting in with guys, socializing with guys, relating to guys' viewpoints on things.  My friends are usually girls and I feel way more comfortable around girls.  I can put up an okay guy-impersonation, but eventually I think people sense that I'm just not good at it... at which point I revert to being awkward and quiet because it's safer doing that than just being myself.  There just isn't anything about (me) being a guy that I find appealing...

This has been my experience.

And, being the male around the house comes with the responsibility of being the person assigned most of the major worry about stuff.

Sometimes it is a bit much, and I get just tired of carrying the load.

It is certainly easier being a boy.

I spent hours trying to get ready as Alice last weekend. Shaving my body, choossing clothes, makeup, wig etc. In the end it was to much hassle, spent 10 mins washing off my making, 5 min change into good old boy clothes and I was much happier.

Gee - being a girl is to much hard work.

Call me Al.

Al

I never understood the shaving your body thing.

QuoteBut now that physical prowess is no longer a leadership determinant . . . and with the increasing importance of education in the global economy, it is quite possible that women will begin out-earning their less educated brothers within a generation.

I agree with what riven_one is implying and as far as education, work and earning power is concerned I say knock yerself out, don't look to me for any help, sympathy and especially marriage. . .

QuoteSometimes it is a bit much, and I get just tired of carrying the load.

There will always be a Korea, a Vietnam, a Iraq for sure the male slaughter in the movies of which still always brings tears to my eyes, if one is going to talk about the benefits of being female in what was once the greatest economy of the world lets talk the real costs of freedom in an allegedly "civil", equitable society and the responsibilities that that often entails.

Quote from: Inanna on August 16, 2009, 03:51:11 AMI've come to firmly believe that guys are innately more emotional, caring, and lighthearted than they end up being as adults.  What causes this change? The continuous drilling into their heads (including mine) to purge one's self of emotional expressiveness, frivolities, showing pain, unnecessary closeness to others unless you get sex. 

Not all males are raised that way Inanna, mine is 9 and I try to show him everyday how much I love him by simply spending time with him doing things he wants, it's ok to cry, express himself freely if feeling emotionally hurt or stressed and he's very sensitive especially to girls he likes yet I'm convinved he's otherwise ALL MALE and I never try to *drum* anything into him (obviously since he is nominally aware of my MtF GID as well)

Mother's often do prefer males and the reverse corollary should also always be true, father's should nurture & protect while empowering their little angels! Bottom line, the real father role model is severely lacking by it's gradual disappearance in this divided work / home culture, if the big "B"s didn't use and keep our children so unfairly from us in divorce and worked more instead everyone would be happier!

A father's main duty to his daughters is to keep the girl off the pole.

Quote from: tekla on August 17, 2009, 05:24:27 PM
A father's main duty to his daughters is to keep the girl off the pole.

That's very sexist and male one-sided (not to mention the flat fact that neither parent these days are very successful @ it!)

I work next to one of the major strip clubs in SF, (which has no shortage of strip clubs) and I'll stand by the statement that a father who has a stripper for a daughter is pretty much a failure.

I'd like to state that I disagree with Tekla on this.
I think every woman should have dominion over her own body, this includes her choice to strip.
I don't think it's a demeaning job for women.
I do however believe, due to the fact that I know some strippers, that they are some of the most vicious people on the planet and that the only person in the strip club that's taken the slightest bit advantage of, is the customer.
In my book, strippers are strong women, who utilize their assets to preform a job they enjoy.
And any father who has a "happy and strong" daughter can be proud.
If not, he's just a prude.

Quote from: Miniar on August 18, 2009, 04:12:49 AM. . . the only person in the strip club that's taken the slightest bit advantage of, is the customer.

lol  ;D Like I said, often "Men Are Chumps (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chump)" (twitterpated (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twitterpated) and proud of it?) so who is anyone to point fingers or pass blame for "Alphalfa" just as quickly abandoning the "ranks" for Darla?

Boys carry kooties. Sorry Nero but that's a scientific fact!

Sorry Wendy but I must disagree. We only find them when the girls make us nervous or something.

Quote from: LordKAT on August 17, 2009, 01:25:38 AM
I never understood the shaving your body thing.

My body hair screams "MAN!!!" in the loudest possible voice.

the only time I actually feel CLEAN is when I'm shaved.

I concede that there's a lot of hairy places the public would never see but I know it's there and that's enough.

No love, it is not.  :(

I live in a house dominated by females. They are much better behave than males and more mature.

As for me... Damn, thing only has done four good things for me... my four children. Now, it often just get in the way...   :D

Um,

What?

Pissing off the roof is fun! I did that at like 12 or 13, it was great fun getting a tree I'd planted wet lol. I can't believe how good a roof-pisser-offer I was. I discovered the joys of getting drunk later lol.

Yes, on T my pee is more rank, but it's PEE, it's not supposed to be rose water.

Quote from: Alice on August 17, 2009, 12:11:51 AM
It is certainly easier being a boy.

I spent hours trying to get ready as Alice last weekend. Shaving my body, choossing clothes, makeup, wig etc. In the end it was to much hassle, spent 10 mins washing off my making, 5 min change into good old boy clothes and I was much happier.

Gee - being a girl is to much hard work.

Call me Al.

It IS harder to get dolled up as a woman! By skipping the leg- and armpit-shaving I have reduced my shower time to 10 mins tops, not to mention completely avoiding razor burn. I only need 5 minutes to brush my hair and trim my fingernails and then I'm good to go. Before I realized and acknowledged I was trans, I'd spend an hour taming my midback-length hair and putting on makeup. *shudder*

In some respects it's better to be a boy.. In other respects it's better to be a girl. Everyone has their preference.

Showers are SO quick for me these days! My hair's a crew cut, so that's no care other than a good scrub with shampoo. I do my shaving in front of the mirror with the good old Barbasol. I do go over armpits and .... other areas... with a clipper once in a while, so that's taken care of elsewhere. No fussing over nails, I just file them with the file on one of my Leatherman tools if truth be known.

But then if you like being a girl all the primping stuff is its own reward I think! And I have male friends who take forever to get ready to go out.