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Title: Paunch
Post by: lolli on September 26, 2006, 03:16:59 PM
Evening all,
My weight can be as low as 13 stone rare.
However as i ride every day i have managed to lose 7lb and bring it down to 14 stone grrrr.
What do i  have to do to lose the next stone ?
I dont drink or smoke and eat pasta to keep my strength up apart from other healthy foods.
My tummy is my one bain, i so wish i could lose my paunch.
Any advice please girls ?
lolli
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Nero on September 27, 2006, 07:29:47 PM
hmm
sweetheart, i would lay off the pasta
i have the same problem
and trust me it is pasta-related
not that i care enough to stop consuming bowl after bowl of pasta
but that is the cause

Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on November 06, 2006, 11:05:27 AM
Well I have not posted a follow recently, but today I feel I need help!!!
At the moment I weigh in at 197 lbs and I am all but 6ft.
Because I ride alot I carry bulk muscle on my thighs and calfs.
But today I found out that my BMi is 26.76 !! and going on that I would need to lose 17lbs ekk.
So I went to the gym today to check out how they can help me, and hopefully I can lose my tum.
I think I will do a slim fast diet !!!
Any other things I should consider do you feel ?
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Nero on November 06, 2006, 12:24:27 PM
Sit-ups? And cardio - maybe join an aerobics class at your gym.
Find something you enjoy doing that induces sweat, listen to your favorite music while doing it.
That would be better than anything else.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Rei Ayanami on November 06, 2006, 02:56:58 PM
   Lolli I was about where you are now 3 months ago, Here's what I did and while you may not opt for a vegan lifestyle you can always keep an eye on what your eating.
First you could try a cleansing diet 1-2 days on Lemon water will shed a lot of weight associated with buildup in the colon I lost about 12 pounds on this  Myself I removed Meat and dairy from my diet since it's full of saturated and trans fats the fats that usually end up getting stored for Long term since they are hard to process you will loose muscle mass before the body will burn them good Fats are Poly and mono unsaturated fats they are found in Vegetables, fruits and grains. Try non dairy alternatives to milk such as rice and soy milk they are much healthier for you anyways since Cow milk is chalk full of hormones(that are supposed to have a calf to a full adult size weighing as much as 1200 pounds in about a year these don't include the extra hormones that are added by the farmer to speed up growth which also pass to the milk) and Lactose (most Humans past the age of 2 cannot process lactose and it builds up in out muscles and joints and is the most common cause of stiffness after working out). Things to avoid are of all things anything that says "vegetable oil" since the process of making vegetable oil creates funny fats Hydrogenated fats like what cheese whiz is made out of which is quite litterally the next thing to plastic you will find these in most shortening fryer oils as well . The Vegetable oils you should look for are Canola, Olive, safflower and sunflower. I know people say that Pasta's are bad for you but they really really aren't I've been living with large amounts of pasta in my diet and I've yet to gain weight from it the big thing to change is make sure your eating whole wheat pasta's the starches are great for you they provide quick energy stores for things like cardio and weight training. In 3 1/2 months I've gone from 196 pounds to 153 I've never felt better my metabolism is back to where it used to be when I was 12  and I eat... a lot :) here's a suggested food pyramid for a vegan lifestyle you can adapt it to suit yourself since I know being vegan isn't for everyone. Make sure you get 30-40 minutes of Cardio during the morning to speed up the rate at which your body burns calories through the day

*hugs*
Rei 
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Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on November 06, 2006, 05:02:46 PM
Thank you Rei, I used to be a vegan and though I may not become vegan your reply has made me consider cutting out dairy products and meat and replacing meat with fish.
I went out for a run today!!! not far just up the road and back, but a starting point.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Melissa on November 06, 2006, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Nero on October 24, 2006, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Brady on October 23, 2006, 09:02:54 PM

Any way I can improve muscle mass as much as possible before T? Any special diets or work outs?

I've said it time and time again - eat pasta and lots of it.
I've eaten pasta everyday of my life and I have an awesome build for a guy.
It works.
I know my advice will be disputed and discounted by the health nuts on here. ::)

Quote from: Nero on September 27, 2006, 07:29:47 PM
hmm
sweetheart, i would lay off the pasta
i have the same problem
and trust me it is pasta-related
not that i care enough to stop consuming bowl after bowl of pasta
but that is the cause
Interesting change of tune. :)

Melissa
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Nero on November 06, 2006, 05:48:58 PM
Quote from: Melissa on November 06, 2006, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Nero on October 24, 2006, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Brady on October 23, 2006, 09:02:54 PM

Any way I can improve muscle mass as much as possible before T? Any special diets or work outs?

I've said it time and time again - eat pasta and lots of it.
I've eaten pasta everyday of my life and I have an awesome build for a guy.
It works.
I know my advice will be disputed and discounted by the health nuts on here. ::)

Quote from: Nero on September 27, 2006, 07:29:47 PM
hmm
sweetheart, i would lay off the pasta
i have the same problem
and trust me it is pasta-related
not that i care enough to stop consuming bowl after bowl of pasta
but that is the cause
Interesting change of tune. :)

Melissa
Change of tune?
No.
Naturally my advice would be different for an MtF who would make less of herself than a FtM who would make more of himself.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Melissa on November 06, 2006, 05:54:53 PM
Quote from: Nero on November 06, 2006, 05:48:58 PM
Change of tune?
No.
Naturally my advice would be different for an MtF who would make less of herself than a FtM who would make more of himself.
Oh, ok.

Melissa
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on November 07, 2006, 11:13:20 AM
Hang on girls I'll get the handbags!!!

Melissa any particular colour for you?

And Nero would you like a handbag or perhaps a tool chest ?

;) ;D :D :)

Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Melissa on November 07, 2006, 11:43:15 AM
I'll take a beige one. :)

Melissa
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on November 16, 2006, 02:27:48 PM
I weighed myself a few days ago and I had put on three pounds ekkk !!! :'(

Then I weighed myself last night and I had lost four pounds !!

Breakfast will be a slim shake and I will have a nana at lunch and a diet bar for afternoon snack and an evening meal after I have been riding.

I have a tight pair of jeans that now fit me nicely umm.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Rei Ayanami on November 17, 2006, 09:49:40 PM
Four pound is a good start Lolli :)

Did you Try the Lemon water regime It's like a 2 day fast on only water with Lemon or another citric acid in it? Think I drank almost 7 imperial Gallons of water in 2 days(8 lemons)You would be surprised how much extra weight and waist/abdomine size change after you do it I lost almost an inch  off my waist when I did it. Every one is a bit different but if you've been eating a lot of processed foods you probably have some "build up".



.... Can I get a hand bag too? :)

*hugs*
Rei
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Refugee on November 18, 2006, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: Rei Ayanami on November 17, 2006, 09:49:40 PM

Did you Try the Lemon water regime It's like a 2 day fast on only water with Lemon or another citric acid in it? Think I drank almost 7 imperial Gallons of water in 2 days(8 lemons)You would be surprised how much extra weight and waist/abdomine size change after you do it I lost almost an inch  off my waist when I did it. Every one is a bit different but if you've been eating a lot of processed foods you probably have some "build up".


For anyone that's interested I started the lemon water diet this morning.

Weight:  205
Waist:  38
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on November 18, 2006, 11:20:43 AM
Hi'ya Rei.

I failed the citric three day thang because hunger over came this poor soul.
I ride alot ( on a mountain bike ) just thought I would clear that up before you think I am a bit easy girls.

Funny really when I think about it because when my marrige broke up I didnt eat for over two weeks and went from 14.5 to 12.6 stone !! that was stress.
But I got over that with bottles of Wolf Blas President  :P red ummmm yummy.

I have not had a drink for ages and I gave up crisps and choc's  :(

I love heeled boots with buckles but my calfs are 8cm too big now so its ankle booties for me and jeans...Hey ho.
If I lose weight that means it will go from all over me but I doubt my legs will lose any.
I saw two lovely young women in the supermarket today in boots and tight hipster jeans, size 8, ohh some women are soo luckly to have such lovely bodies.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Brianna on November 18, 2006, 01:29:32 PM
Here is the soulution.

1. Exercise 4 times a week at 80 percent max heart rate
2. Cut calories. Lots of them, about 4000 per pound you want to lose,

Come of the Brianna 20 kilometer Deathrun TM anytime. You either get in fabu shape or die.

Bri

PS- More than anything when I see people that want to lose weight I see straight up delusion and flimsy excuses. (Oh, I walk. Oh, I eat low fat stuff.) The truth is, weight loss is fighting evolution. It's very hard, and takes laserlike focus. I should know. I lost 130 pounds to transition.

PPS- 4 pounds is just normal water weight fluctuation.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Nero on November 18, 2006, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: Brianna on November 18, 2006, 01:29:32 PM
I lost 130 pounds to transition.
Wow! That's quite an accomplishment, Bri. And you look awesome. :)
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Refugee on November 18, 2006, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: Brianna on November 18, 2006, 01:29:32 PM
Here is the soulution.

1. Exercise 4 times a week at 80 percent max heart rate
2. Cut calories. Lots of them, about 4000 per pound you want to lose,

Come of the Brianna 20 kilometer Deathrun TM anytime. You either get in fabu shape or die.

Bri

PS- More than anything when I see people that want to lose weight I see straight up delusion and flimsy excuses. (Oh, I walk. Oh, I eat low fat stuff.) The truth is, weight loss is fighting evolution. It's very hard, and takes laserlike focus. I should know. I lost 130 pounds to transition.

PPS- 4 pounds is just normal water weight fluctuation.

I lost 40 lbs in the last year and I don't excercise.  I just watched what I ate, I mean really watched it.  People say they're "watching their weight", but they forget to account for all the snacks they consume outside of regular meals and they have no idea of portion control.

My weight isn't bad, but I don't want to transition at that weight.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on November 18, 2006, 04:40:02 PM
I think Bri I am doing fairly well, and if I can get down to 12.5 or less,- 30 waist then thats cool. I dont just ride for fun, I also take part in 24 hour mountain bike races xc country so I need to be fit for that.
Its the hills I love, I know its sick but I have to ride up them regardless of how roccky they might be.
And I have a routine set up for me at the gym to just work on the tum because I dont want upper body muscle.

Bri I am in love with your legs, when next I am in the states would you mind if I drop by and worship them  ;)

I need a fit girl for the team so how about it Bri you ride for the team and I will start running again?? 
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Ricki on November 18, 2006, 06:05:09 PM
Well then you girls got this thing nailed down!
I'll only add that bariatrics is not the way to go!
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on November 28, 2006, 12:36:46 PM
Ricki.
All that lovely snow around you in that pic  :)

A mate in London has asked me to join the guys skiing in southern france over the festive season.
Beats mountain biking across the moors in the snow.


Posted on: November 19, 2006, 06:00:11 AM
Well as a follow up.
Neither have I lost weight nor have I put it on  :(

Need more exercise.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Refugee on November 28, 2006, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Refugee on November 18, 2006, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: Rei Ayanami on November 17, 2006, 09:49:40 PM

Did you Try the Lemon water regime It's like a 2 day fast on only water with Lemon or another citric acid in it? Think I drank almost 7 imperial Gallons of water in 2 days(8 lemons)You would be surprised how much extra weight and waist/abdomine size change after you do it I lost almost an inch  off my waist when I did it. Every one is a bit different but if you've been eating a lot of processed foods you probably have some "build up".


For anyone that's interested I started the lemon water diet this morning.

Weight:  205
Waist:  38

Better late then never, I can tell you I lost a pound on the above regimen.  Yeah a pound.  I don't know if it was worth it for me, chances are I would have lost the pound on my own anways.  There's a couple reasons why I think it didn't work.  First off I'm already careful about the things I eat, some might call this dieting.  Its normal to drop the first 5 to 10 lbs rapidly anytime you drastically change your eating habits.  So I don't think my body had much more to give.  Second, I hadn't eaten much in the week leading up to the "water diet", and I'd lost 8 lbs already.  As an interesting aside, I gained back a couple lbs the following week when I started eating normally again.  Again, I don't think my body had much to give.

I had the means, so I made the most of the opportunity to check my blood sugar also.  It was 77 by the second night of the diet.  Had I been a patient of mine, it would have been just enough to warrant treating for low blood sugar.  As it were as the night wore on I grew incredibly hungry and gave up about 3 AM or so - I was working at the time - and ate so maybe that flawed the results.  In any case, I wouldn't reccomend this approach for anyone with any pre-existing medical problems.

I could find no legitimate basis for adding the lemon.  There is evidence it will help your complexion, but that's by putting it on your skin, not in your body.  There was no reliable evidence that it either helps or hinders weight loss.  It did seem to make the water tastier and easier to drink, but I think that's a personal preference more then anything else.

On a more positive note, the water was effecting in creating a sense of being full, without adding calories.  Always a good idea when dieting.  As it is, most people are borderline dehydrated most of the time anyways.  Based on data from the Mayo Clinic, most people should be drinking a gallon of water a day.  The easiest way to do this is fill a gallon container and drink from it throughout the day - so there's no guess work about what is and what isn't a gallon.  You'll find you actually have to make an effort to drink the entire gallon.  Especially now that I'm back to solid food, even I'm not there yet.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Rei Ayanami on November 28, 2006, 09:03:56 PM
    Thanks for your input Refugee, like I had mentioned not everyone is the same and will have different results. The lemon water isn't actually a weight loss program it is meant to clear out your bowels which is the reason for the lemon it's the acid in the lemon juice that "should" loosen anything that may have built up in your colon, and is recommended if you are making a diet change. Prior to me doing it I was living on fast food and simmilar quick meals eg T.V dinner type meals, after I changed to a vegan diet and most of the "flab" began to vanish. Many lifestyle(diet) type books recommend it as one type of a "body cleansing" prior to the flip to your new eating habits and while I didn't do this myself  -->they Recommend consulting a Physician and/or dietitian before starting any major changes in your diet especially if it is something someone on the internet offers up.

Rei
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Susan on November 29, 2006, 02:44:54 AM
I have found cutting portion sizes to be very effective for me losing weight. I am down over 30 pounds from my peak weight. roughly 30 more to go.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: bananaslug on November 29, 2006, 04:10:53 PM

I have found certain foods (eg pork) to be more conducive to weight gain (or at least no weight loss).  Regular meals rather than 'famine and feast' are very important, in my opinion, for a healthy, sustainable diet and weight.



Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on November 30, 2006, 09:02:39 AM
I have cut down my portions size on the plate.
Also by having a semi skimmed milkshake diet drink for breakfast about 7am and some water afterwards I remain full untill about 2pm.
I then eat an energy diet snack bar and a banana.
Then I eat a small meal around 7pm.

I believe its the amount of exercise one does each day that helps.

I spent Wednesday driving around the lanes in a 33 ton tanker with another driver, and I was concentrating so much that I nearly forgot to eat or drink water.

If we are dieting to lose weight then how many would consider or have had the op to remove the lower two ribs ?
A bit drastic me thinks.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Refugee on November 30, 2006, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: lolli on November 30, 2006, 09:02:39 AM

If we are dieting to lose weight then how many would consider or have had the op to remove the lower two ribs ?
A bit drastic me thinks.


Its incredibly dangerous, doesn't drastically alter your figure and any reputable doctor won't do it.  Did I mention that more often then not, the ribs grow back?  That and natal females have the same number of ribs, the difference is they're not as prominent.

Of all the things that could get me "read", my ribs are the least of my worries.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on December 01, 2006, 03:11:39 PM
I have been on the Slim fast diet, only because I could not remember the name of the one I wanted to do.
But its called the Cambridge diet.
I am seeing a counciler on sunday to discuss the diet and my weight and what she thinks would suit me.
So maybe this time I can go about it the right way.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Ricki on December 01, 2006, 08:14:45 PM
Lolli what is your weight goal or your goal to do, lose?  I am confused? 
Do you work out or exercise?  Hey fly over here and we can rock climb together... hehe...
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on December 02, 2006, 10:44:01 AM
I need to lose 17lbs but I would love to weigh between 11 or 12 stone.  :)
Exercise Riki !!!
I ride on and off road about 600 miles a month on a mountain bike and a road racing bike though this month I am increasing that to 1000 just for the hell of it  :o
I have been going to the gym working on my tummy muscles.

Oh to put on a pair of ski's again, looks silly wearing them in the house.

Never done rock climbing before, how about paragliding ?

Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Melissa on December 02, 2006, 05:26:11 PM
I weigh about 13 stone (1 stone = 14 pounds) and I've decided I'm pretty happy being around there.  I'm not a tiny girl, but I'm not huge either.

Melissa
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Ricki on December 02, 2006, 06:59:03 PM
Hahuuum thanks Melissa i was afraid to ask about the stone thing, but it inspires me to make lolli a 1 stone cheesecake that is all fat free!
I would love to paraglide no places around here really to do it!  I tried para sailing once it was cool.
Jesus woman you sound like a tri-athalon junkie! WOW!
I thought i stayed active!  You blow me away easily!
I have a whole new level of respect at least 5 or 6 stones worth!
Hah!  ::)
I'm no dietition and with all the activity it does not sound like your activity in your lifestyle is an issue with weight loss....
Back to the food thing i guess...
Ciao~
Ricki
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: lolli on December 03, 2006, 05:20:43 AM
Thanks Kiera, nothing like sites like that first thing in the morning, after some wholemeal toast and coffee.
Melissa there is nothing of you to lose weight, at least from what I can see.
Those cant be your legs Ricki !  ;) so come on whose are they ?

This new diet plan for me costs £33 pounds per week !!!
thats expensive me thinks.
Thats a large dent in money best used for something else.

Oh no I am an under taster.
And I am lonely and frustrated  ;D nothing new there
And I am jealous  ::) I blame the ex
And I could be all of the above Dr Oz  :o

My world is in tatters around me, There is no point in living ekk

My rope anyone...I must hang myself....Yeah right, and moving swiftly on.
Title: Re: Paunch
Post by: Dweia on December 03, 2006, 09:11:23 AM

Well a year ago I found myself from Yoga Ashtanga course  (http://www.ashtanga.com/html/AYarticle.html)
And for me it's seems to be a good way of doing physical training but also I feel much relaxed after training.

Not much weight lost yet, but I can still measure the difference in my waist.. Slowly it will be smaller, because most of the exercises i.e. asanas will affect to deep inner stomach muscles. My posture is better than earlier also no neck & shoulder pain is gone.

So currently I do yoga 2 times a week each about 1,5 hours and 700 kcal..
And then I run 2 times a week 1h each about 500 kcal.

And I'm using personal training assistant (http://www.polar.fi/polar/channels/eng/segments/Fitness/F11.html) to follow my training sessions for example to keep heart rate in correct level and for calculating calories.