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Title: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 02, 2009, 02:34:07 AM



:eusa_think: Think about it and answer honestly.
Please stand by for future comment.  :icon_ballbounce2:



Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Cindy on September 02, 2009, 04:05:12 AM
Mentally yes; Physically no.

Of course this can be reversed

Cindy
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 02, 2009, 04:35:24 PM


Great job, :eusa_dance: six members voted,
thirty-one hundred and sixty-six, to go.


Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Osiris on September 02, 2009, 04:48:30 PM
Yes. I am who I am and no matter what impression my body may give others. Transition is just the physical changes needed to reflect the inner person.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Nicky on September 02, 2009, 04:56:57 PM
I don't think I choose my gender, but I am it.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Ellieka on September 02, 2009, 07:42:45 PM
I chose "yes I am" but like others said It' really wasn't a choice per say. I was a choice in that I chose to transition. I could have chosen not to transition but the consequences would have been detrimental to my well being. I was bone mentally female but got tagged as a male... drat! 
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 02, 2009, 09:32:37 PM



Only thirty-one hundred and fifty-nine more to go. :icon_no1swatching-nerd:




Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Cindy on September 03, 2009, 04:13:31 AM
Hmm
Heather rose is counting. How many fingers does this girl have!!  :laugh: :laugh:

Or are they toes :laugh:

How are you going?

Cindy
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Nero on September 03, 2009, 04:33:42 AM
I voted 'yes, I am'. But as stated by previous posters, I don't believe one chooses a gender.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Jay on September 03, 2009, 04:40:57 AM
Not yet but I will be as soon as I...

I will be finally all male once my hysto and bottom surgery has been completed.. so a few more years yet.

Jay
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Miniar on September 03, 2009, 05:43:34 AM
Quote from: Nero on September 03, 2009, 04:33:42 AM
I voted 'yes, I am'. But as stated by previous posters, I don't believe one chooses a gender.
Me three.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 03, 2009, 06:02:16 AM



:icon_bored: Thirty-one hundred and fifty-eight left.

Our numbers increased by two today :icon_caffine:


Quote from: CindyJames on September 03, 2009, 04:13:31 AMHow many fingers does this girl have!!

I have twenty-one digits which I can use for calculation. One of which,
is pretty much useless excepting for that purpose.
What I'll do after SRS, I don't know.



Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Cindy on September 03, 2009, 06:23:01 AM
I think they extra didget :laugh: allows up to 110 using basic (decimal) counting. I suppose that raise the question of why genetic males have the the rudiment to count and record to 110 and genetic females don't? Obviously to follow gridiron.

mmm

Ha Think about it

time for bed

Cindy
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Mister on September 03, 2009, 09:59:21 AM
Wow, great poll.   I love it when transpeople flip out about being told that instead of being men/women they've decided to be women/men.  I love it even more when transpeople reinforce the bull>-bleeped-< notion that your gender is a choice.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: thestory on September 03, 2009, 10:19:04 AM
Chose "I am" despite it not being a choice and that I am pre T. I don't think gender should be confused with biological sex. So in short... Yes, I am the gender I am and am happy with. No, my body does not reflect it.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 03, 2009, 06:05:19 PM



:icon_headache: I love it when people flip out, without actually considering the question. Now, to quote Steven
the mad Irishman, "Don't change the subject, just answer the [flowery] question". :icon_chainsaw:

Thirty-one hundred and fifty-nine more to go.
:icon_geekdance: Two more people joined today.




Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Mister on September 03, 2009, 06:11:17 PM
I'd love to, but there's no option for 'Gender is not a choice.'
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Jeatyn on September 03, 2009, 06:23:36 PM
I swear this is a trick question
Title: Re: A \"Simple\" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 03, 2009, 07:00:25 PM


Quote from: Mister on September 03, 2009, 06:11:17 PM
I'd love to, but there's no option for 'Gender is not a choice.'

The reason for a poll is to gather information for the pollster and possibly make people think.
The question wasn't, "Is gender a choice?" Of course, that is another option,
you can argue over the phrasing of the question rather then actually think about what it is asking.





Post Merge: September 03, 2009, 08:38:48 PM




For those who voted: "Not yet but I will as soon as I...".
At what point do you feel that you will be able to say, "I am the gender I choose to be."?

For those who voted: "Yes, I am!".
Does your gender now match the sex which you were born in?



Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Miniar on September 04, 2009, 03:47:07 AM
No, my sex does not match my gender.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Janet_Girl on September 04, 2009, 01:07:07 PM
As close as I can get now.  Next step is ether an Orchie or SRS, whichever I can afford first.


Janet
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: LordKAT on September 04, 2009, 01:43:28 PM
Quote from: heatherrose on September 03, 2009, 07:00:25 PM


For those who voted: "Yes, I am!".
Does your gender now match the sex which you were born in?


No
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Alyssa M. on September 04, 2009, 02:22:18 PM
Seriously?

I don't recall ever being given the choice. No Morpheus ever showed up to offer me a red pill or a blue pill. And if he had, I don't know which I would have picked. I probably would have told him to go to hell.

So the answer to your question is, "no." But none of your options apply, so I can't vote.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Just Kate on September 05, 2009, 06:39:55 AM
Quote from: heatherrose on September 02, 2009, 02:34:07 AM



:eusa_think: Think about it and answer honestly.
Please stand by for future comment.  :icon_ballbounce2:




"ARE you your chosen gender?"

Ack!  Where is the "No" response?
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 01:37:12 AM



It is my poll, so you first Interalia. :icon_chick:
I will answer soon enough.
Thirty-one hundred and seventy-three
people still haven't answered yet.
:eusa_clap: Our ranks have swelled by twenty-seven
since Wednesday the second.



Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Nero on September 06, 2009, 02:04:36 AM
QuoteFor those who voted: "Yes, I am!".
Does your gender now match the sex which you were born in?


???

Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 02:18:28 AM



Sex: Tangible characteristics.
Gender: Self identification.




Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Nero on September 06, 2009, 03:32:37 AM
Quote from: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 02:18:28 AM



Sex: Tangible characteristics.
Gender: Self identification.





okay, then no, it doesn't. and my sex doesn't match it much anymore either.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 04:22:20 PM



It was obvious from the day you were born to everyone,
your parents, siblings, relatives, teachers, friends that you
had always been and forever would be "a woman/female"?

You didn't ever need to voice an opinion one way
or another as to how you identified yourself?

Your never made a "choice" that you were no longer going to
present as something you did not consider yourself to be?



Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Miniar on September 07, 2009, 06:46:46 AM
I never chose to be a man, all I chose was to stop pretending I was a girl.
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Walter on September 08, 2009, 05:47:25 AM
I chose "Yes, I am!" even though I haven't had any operations or T. It just seemed convenient to pick though
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Miniar on September 08, 2009, 10:37:12 AM
My gender will never match the sex I was born in.
I can never undo the fact that my body was born female.
I can never undo the fact that "I" am male.
The two will never "match".
Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 08, 2009, 08:24:26 PM



Quote from: MeFor those who voted: "Yes, I am!".
Does your gender now match the sex which you were born in?

No my sex does not match the gender I have chosen to express.


The single most important thing that we should learn from our intersexed
sisters and brothers and from stories such as "As Nature Made Him" is,  no matter
how much money we spend on clothes and make overs, no matter what magic juice
we shoot-up with or pills we pop, no matter how well we can convince our "shrink"
nor how fast you can clear the hurdles on our path to SRS, if we are not now
the gender we have decided that we can no longer repress expression,
we never will be.

None of  us were given a choice as to what gender we identify with but the
way we live our life is nothing but a long string of choices. Choices filtered through
the personality we are equipped with at birth. Choices based upon circumstance,
perspective and wisdom. If we are hoping for transition, hormones or some surgery
to make us the gender we have chosen we want to present ourselves as,
perhaps we should look elsewhere for what ever it is that
will fill the void and ease the pain we feel.




Title: Re: A "Simple" question for all.
Post by: Mister on September 10, 2009, 11:52:42 PM
Quote from: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 04:22:20 PM



It was obvious from the day you were born to everyone,
your parents, siblings, relatives, teachers, friends that you
had always been and forever would be "a woman/female"?

You didn't ever need to voice an opinion one way
or another as to how you identified yourself?

Your never made a "choice" that you were no longer going to
present as something you did not consider yourself to be?


That's like saying that since I have skeletal problems, I chose to limp. 
Title: Re: A \"Simple\" question for all.
Post by: heatherrose on September 11, 2009, 04:21:03 PM



On Jan. 27th. of 2006, I decided that I no longer was going to fight
to repress my sexual identity and I decided to start my new life with the
decision to dress my bald headed 240 lb. frame, with it's primary and secondary
male sexual characteristics, in a skirt and fluffy sweater. Don't kid yourself,
it is all about the decisions you make. You can decide to suffer in silence
or you can decide to express yourself, as you see fit. It is your decision.




Post Merge: September 16, 2009, 06:59:01 AM




Quote from: Heather's internal monologue. on September 16, 2009, 04:45:19 AM

"The foundation was laid when Mama said, "If I continued with "this"
I will "let you go" and concentrate my efforts on your brothers and sister".
Everything after, was an effort to prove yourself worthy of her love. What
the hell is that, love? It's something you say, not something you feel. What
you feel is the shame of your "secret" and fear. Fear of being discovered and
fear of abandonment. The only way to keep from collapsing into a quivering mass
is to do what is expected of you. You don't try to figure yourself out because then
you would be admitting that you were one of "those", you know, the freaks Dad
makes fun of. You start manning up with weights and you try to prove that
you can work harder than your brother, when Dad needs help on the truck."


Everything that I have done has been to prove I was a man.
Everything that I have accomplished,
everything that I have found enjoyment in,
everyone that I have hurt.
Is because of the life that I built on lies,
the expert lies I have told to hide the truth.
I know who I am but now that the vapor
that was once was my life has dissipated,
What am I?