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I am attracted to a range, from androgyne to very feminine. Other guys are attracted to other ranges, maybe "low femme" to "soft butch" or to androgyne to masculine.

This site has made me do a lot of thinking, and I think I could be attracted to a transgirl, if they appealed to me and I should not judge things by a few not-too-great experiences in the past. Likewise I think I could be attracted to another transman if they were "femme-y" or "->-bleeped-<-gy" no offense meant you all probably know what I mean  :laugh:

I'd put a poll on here if I knew how.

I am attracted to women. I have tended to date the fem type but would not say that is set in stone just who I have dated before. My SO would be classified in that group.
Myles

I loooove femmes but it's weird, there are women who consider themselves butch who I'd "do" lol  >:-) way back in the past I came onto a few and the reaction was not good - they consider themselves butch and to have a butcher-butch come onto THEM, yikes!

And seriously, this board has been an eye and mind opener for me, honestly, so many of the gals here are so beautiful, and a few of the guys are cute too. Not you manly beard-growers! But there's a spectrum....

None taken. (I'm a total twink, my partner tells me so atleast, and calls me cat-boy sometimes.)

I'm attracted to intellectual depth, capacity for debate, capacity for reason and logic. I'm attracted to people who make up their own opinions based on the facts at their disposal, even when they disagree with me, if not especially when they disagree with me. I'm attracted to mentally/intellectually strong people.

Being kinky helps too.

OMG smart girls = schwing!

My partner and I can spend a whole day disagreeing on some fundamental aspect of existence. No fighting, just a controlled debate, with complex concepts thrown back and forth and logic backing up every opinion and aspect.
It usually means we end up in bed.

I don't think I have a 'type' but she has to have some smarts or I'll be bored.  And someone who isn't afraid to break a nail, who likes camping and hiking and other outdoorsy things, who would like someday to live off-grid on a remote ranch...or live in an RV....

I'll always be single, LOL.  I'm too weird.


Jay

Ideally I'm attracted to masculine men but I've learnt that I find many types of people sexy. like there are some trans and intersex people I've seen on youtube, who i find really attractive. I never thought I'd think that. Even trans and bio women I've found attractive, but could only think of myself, in a relationship with someone that feminine, as a male.

I guess I'm just a pan in the closet.
but still really, really asexual..

im one of those ->-bleeped-<-gy transguys. :P

as far as who i like, its not really based on who they are on the outside.  GENERALLY, uber hecka femmy bugs me.  i just get so annoyed with people who are the reason for every stereotype out there about women (or queens).  same with guys (or women) though... i dont like the super macho gay-bashing-to-show-off-how-straight-i-am type either.  i guess i just like people hovering somewhere in the middle.  or at least not on the extreme.

I used to go for smooth, androgynous sorts of guys, but recently I've been developing a taste for semi-bears.  Not too, too hairy, but a well trimmed beard and soft furry arms have been catching my attention lately. But it's still baby-faces that really turn my head. 

Having said that, I find that 99 times out of 100 I'm either physically attracted to a person, or feel a mental connection.  Only once have I managed to find someone who attracted me on both levels, and unfortunately I blew it.  :(

Quote from: sneakersjay on September 14, 2009, 04:28:04 PM
I don't think I have a 'type' but she has to have some smarts or I'll be bored.  And someone who isn't afraid to break a nail, who likes camping and hiking and other outdoorsy things, who would like someday to live off-grid on a remote ranch...or live in an RV....

I'll always be single, LOL.  I'm too weird.


Jay

You just described my girlfriend. Add to that that she likes to dress up to go out and is very much a girl when we're not camping or fishing.

Hands off, bro.

Dennis

My type?  Blonde hair, blue eyes, independent, funny, ignores my cane and the conditions that require it while being totally aware of them at the same time, puts up with my insane (lack of) sleep schedule and doesn't call/text 500 times/day.

In chicks, my standards are pretty well impossibly high for a guy of my stature (take that any way you want to). I dig the typical Hollywood beauties like Keira Knightley or Alicia Silverstone (though not so much in her fat phase lol), and typically go for chicks irl who fit that type.

In guys, it really depends. Mostly I like the pretty-boy type, fairly feminine, though not the type who is, for lack of a better term, a "flamer". Overt and over-the-top flamboyancy doesn't do it for me.

And since we seem to be distinguishing between bio- and otherwise, I'm totally into ftms and mtfs, if they pass my likely too-rigorous standards.

SD

i missed the bio-otherwise bit.

bio.  definitely wouldn't get involved with a pre-op MTF.  probably wouldn't get involved with one post-op either.

Quote from: Alex_C on September 14, 2009, 02:40:33 PM
Who are you attracted to?

My gf  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Only girls 4 me. I like femme girls. nice breasts. great skin. smart. cool attitude. very outgoin. :icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance:

I'm afraid to say more now, this topic may well get removed. I had two other threads I started get removed and I have no idea why. I wish they'd email me and tell me why.

Males, I like men that look more feminine than act it...always been a fan of younger-looking or babyfaced guys. Lean bodybuild without being bony. I don't like "flamers"...just normal, down-to-earth guys without being over-the-top manly.

Women....I like girly girls that I can take care of. Petite, small, preferably thin girls. I love redheads and asians especially. Independent enough to where they don't cling to me 24-7. but enough that I feel like I'm needed.

In both situations I come to the conclusion I prefer filling the dominant role in the relationship....anything but that usually means we fight a lot. I also tend to go toward older partners vs. my own age group...5-10 years older, though I have gone even past that.

Would I date an MTF? Before this site...no...but I've changed my tune on that. Yes, but only if I never met them before transition, out of fear of seeing them as their birth gender out of habit. Not sure about pre-op...but post-op, sure, if they passed as female to me. There's a couple MtFs here that have caught my eye.

Chrissyboy I agree completely with your last 3 paragraphs!! The first one, well, at least so far I just am not attracted to men. But yeah, the petite girls I can take care of without being totally clingy, wanting to be the dominant one etc. And yeah there are some serious cuties among the girls here, if I ever met 'em in real life I'd invite 'em for coffee anyway. (which is kind of academic, since internet people never meet in real life, just saying.)

I like a good range of people but enjoy the softer personalities usually. I like my partner to be more effeminate though not necessarily a woman. I still would prefer women over men in most circumstances. Gay men are not exactly a no. There are possibilities there. And as far as MtFs go I consider them women anyways.
I want my girl to be somewhat independent though and have a mind of their own. Someone I could care for but have them be there for me as well. My girlfriend should be one of my best friends and should be able to talk science, philosophy, and art with me and know what they are talking about. I want to be able to learn from them and grow as a person and have them learn from me as well.
Someone I could love and geek out with, and most of all have them inspire me.

I'm mainly attracted to guys. But my romantic orientation is very fluid

Hm...I seem to have a sixth sense for this, but I always fall for lesbians, even when they're not 'overtly' lesbian.  I just have a thing for independent women who couldn't care less about me, I guess.  Also, brunettes or redheads, that's the only other part of my 'type'.  Same requirement for guys (although they don't have to be lesbians :D)  I would date transmen or transwomen, pre- and post-op.

I'm attracted to men.  But there have been a few instances where I sort of had a crush on a girl.  It was more confusing than anything, and I'm not sure I could be with a woman.  But maybe I'll try it out someday after I'm done messing with these menfolk, lol.

I suppose I forgot to say whether I'd date ftm, and the answer is sure.  While I prefer boy bits, I can work with girl bits on a man.  I doubt, however, that I would ever be attracted to a transguy who hadn't been on T for several months at least.

Excuse me crashing this FtM thread but... I like girls! :)

Femme girls, and thats it.

Jay

My favorite type is the "hot librarian"  >:-) >:-) >:-)

Quote from: Alex_C on September 15, 2009, 12:15:45 PM
My favorite type is the "hot librarian"  >:-) >:-) >:-)

Ha.  My lady's a librarian. 

Chubby guys with beards and long hair! >:-) haha ok they don't have to be chubby and have long hair but facial hair is a must.

I also like 'butch' women, but some femme girls look good too. And I like androgynes :P

yay for being pansexual :D

Mister - Dang, you're smooth.

Quote from: Alex_C on September 15, 2009, 12:36:08 PM
Mister - Dang, you're smooth.

hahaha, thx dude.

Preferably someone more feminine than me. My tastes seem to be shifting towards women. As for the transsexuals, I guess it depends.

SilverFang

Yeah that says it best silverfang. Someone more feminine than me.

I like effeminate/androgynous skinny guys without a ton of body hair and... I guess really femme girls. I dunno. I'm not so much into women as I am to men.

Well Im bisexual but I love the ladies. Personality always comes first though.

I'm primarily attracted to women, but I'm a "never say never" kinda guy. I've been with guys in the past when I was living as a girl (and was married to one, had kids with him, etc), but I left that life so that I could be myself (at that time, I identified as a lesbian, but realized later that was a "baby step" towards becoming the real me - the male me) and be with people of the gender I'm most attracted to.

That being said, I've always had a teensy tiny little bit of attraction towards some men, some of the time. And now that I'm living (at least part time as far as other people are concerned - but full time in my mind) as a guy, I'm less "put off" by the idea of being with guys, although I'll probably not act upon that still.

Add to that the fact that my partner is a female-bodied, androgynous gender-queer (Self-identified as closer to the male end of the spectrum. Would rather be gender-neutral, but likes being sir'd and hates being maam'd.). I think I hit the jackpot with my sweetie, cuz I really love that sie is able to be fluid with hir gender expression, and I can also be somewhat fluid with my orientation, while still being with a female-bodied person (as this is what I'm more attracted to than male bodies, although not exclusively).

I do find many FTMs and MTFs to be attractive, and I wouldn't have a problem if they were pre- or post-op. I find some bio-guys to be attractive, but could only be with them if they truly saw me as a guy. I find bio-gals attractive (obviously) but find queer chicks to be hotter than straight chicks (to my eyes at least).

I'm kinda confusing that way I guess. lol

relationship wise or sex wise?

Quote from: Nero on September 17, 2009, 05:03:22 PM
relationship wise or sex wise?

Personally, relationship wise and sex wise mean the same thing - to me. Others may feel differently, only speaking for myself.

But for me, I can't be in a relationship with someone that I'm not sexually attracted to, and I personally don't prefer having sex with someone that I'm not at least somewhat romantically attracted to as well. So the line blurs, and is often completely non-existent.

Except when it comes to Angelina Jolie or Keira Knightly (or both together, that would be wicked  ;D ;D ;D), I wouldn't want a relationship with either of them, but *damn* would I like a chance to get in their drawers...

{ahem}

Sorry, that was my inside voice, usually I'm much more respectful than that. :angel:

I prefer guys with strong arms, a bit of baby fat and more facial hair than chest hair, who are right between egghead and jock on the continuum, and hopefully not more than 6" taller than my 5'2" (my partner is exactly 1' taller  :eusa_think:). Then there's the personal qualities: sensitive, caring, adoring, open-minded, non-sexist/racist and good at making me laugh.  Make me laugh and I'll fall for ya. Also, I don't like 'rocks' nor chattermouths, too little talking and too much both turn me off. 
:icon_help: :icon_blahblah:

I'm not really into the ladies, so MtF are out, but FtM dudes are fair game.  :icon_flower: I guess I like most guys who aren't uber jocks or more than a little femme-y. Since I'm not passing full-time, straight men are ok, but gay/bi guys who aren't too queen-y are at the top of my list. My guy isn't gay or bi but I wish he were cos it would make him feel much less weird about kissing a "wannabe-guy."  :icon_sadblinky:

Quote from: NES_junkie_James on September 17, 2009, 05:11:40 PM
Personally, relationship wise and sex wise mean the same thing - to me. Others may feel differently, only speaking for myself.

But for me, I can't be in a relationship with someone that I'm not sexually attracted to, and I personally don't prefer having sex with someone that I'm not at least somewhat romantically attracted to as well. So the line blurs, and is often completely non-existent.
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This. I wouldn't want to get into a serious relationship with anyone who I couldn't imagine getting intimate with, simply because I'd hate to be in the situation of "I like you as a boyfriend but not enough to do THAT.." A guy has to be a good friend to me before he can become a serious boyfriend. No base of friendship = little more than a temporary infatuation.

Quote from: NES_junkie_James on September 17, 2009, 05:11:40 PM
Personally, relationship wise and sex wise mean the same thing - to me. Others may feel differently, only speaking for myself.

But for me, I can't be in a relationship with someone that I'm not sexually attracted to, and I personally don't prefer having sex with someone that I'm not at least somewhat romantically attracted to as well. So the line blurs, and is often completely non-existent.

Except when it comes to Angelina Jolie or Keira Knightly (or both together, that would be wicked  ;D ;D ;D), I wouldn't want a relationship with either of them, but *damn* would I like a chance to get in their drawers...

{ahem}

Sorry, that was my inside voice, usually I'm much more respectful than that. :angel:

Well, for me, there's a whole lot of people I would want to be with sexually but very few that are relationship material. For instance, I'm still attracted to guys but I really don't want a relationship with another male at this point. 

Anyway, far as girls I prefer brunettes with some kind of a shape. Especially in the back department.

Guys have to be about 5'7 and under to even get a second glance, and 5'3 is preferable. Either skinny or chubby. No muscle whatsoever. And brunette as well. I'm not picky.  :laugh:

Quote from: Nero on September 17, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
Guys have to be about 5'7 and under to even get a second glance, and 5'3 is preferable. Either skinny or chubby. No muscle whatsoever. And brunette as well. I'm not picky.  :laugh:

You don't say... How about nerdy and bespectacled on top of that? Well hellooo! ;D lol

Wow... so Nero, you must be into guys from Latin America and Asia, specifically. :P

I'd be happy to have a long-term relationship with Keira Knightley, personally. The accent and gorgeous looks alone could sustain me for years.

SD

Quote from: Sebastien on September 17, 2009, 10:11:19 PM
Wow... so Nero, you must be into guys from Latin America and Asia, specifically. :P

I'd be happy to have a long-term relationship with Keira Knightley, personally. The accent and gorgeous looks alone could sustain me for years.

SD

yep lots of latinos.  :laugh: white guys tend to be tall and hairy.  :P they're hot before about age 16 or so. it's all downhill from there except the odd short, dark one.

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Quote from: NES_junkie_James on September 17, 2009, 09:20:42 PM
You don't say... How about nerdy and bespectacled on top of that? Well hellooo! ;D lol

lol  :-*

Well I love Latinos, personally, so if you find one who's cute and over 5'7", send him my way... I don't mind tall guys at all. :P

I honestly don't know. It's a question I'm still trying to figure out. I'm thinking it might get a little clearer post-T  :laugh:

I mainly find myself attracted to men and transmen (post T), but I have been known to enjoy a sleezy objectifying leer at women from time to time. Really depends what mood I'm in.

I have no intentions of getting close (either physically or emotionally) with anyone at this point but I'd say the right (sufficantly nerdy, but not effeminate) transman would have a good shot, and women don't stand a chance.

I wouldn't call it a range... there's big gaps of people I'm not attracted to (like butch women, "jock" guys).

I just hope I don't end up straight, 'cause I'm everything women say they hate in a man!  :laugh:

Tripp I'd probably be right up your alley from the description you give.

That being said, people on the Internet never meet so it's all academic.

Quote from: Nero on September 17, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
Guys have to be about 5'7 and under to even get a second glance, and 5'3 is preferable. Either skinny or chubby. No muscle whatsoever. And brunette as well. I'm not picky.  :laugh:

5'6", skinny, brown-haired and weak as hell. Also half-mexican.

Short and without muscle. Probably fits a lot of transmen.

I gotta agree with you though, mexican and asian guys are better looking than their white counterparts.

SilverFang

Quote from: SilverFang on September 18, 2009, 01:18:04 AM
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I gotta agree with you though, mexican and asian guys are better looking than their white counterparts.

Aww! *pout*  :'(

Quote from: finewine on September 18, 2009, 01:24:33 AM
Aww! *pout*  :'(

well for a transguy, other guys hit their attractiveness peak at about 14 years old. then they get taller and stronger, and hairier than us. so out of high school, you turn to shorter and less hairy races of guy. that's me anyway. other guys' mileage may vary.
but shorter, smoother white guys are still hot.  :)

hehe, ah ok! :)  Thanks buddy!

yeah, never sleep with anything bigger than you are, i always say.  :laugh:

Quote from: finewine on September 18, 2009, 01:24:33 AM
Aww! *pout*  :'(

Ah, well. . . Now I feel a bit guilty. It's just a general rule.

SilverFang

Quote from: SilverFang on September 18, 2009, 02:37:28 AM
Ah, well. . . Now I feel a bit guilty. It's just a general rule.

Hehe, don't feel bad - I wasn't serious.  Hey, I freely admit I can turn milk into yoghurt just by looking at it :P

wheres the bear love?  :(

id be a twink if i could, it just seems genetics arent that fond of me.  no way im waxing my whole body. :P

Aw, we don't all hate on the crackers ;).

I'm not one for full on bears, but I do like white guys that look over 20. I don't want to feel like I'm doing something illegal  :laugh:.

Quote from: Sebastien on September 17, 2009, 10:11:19 PM
I'd be happy to have a long-term relationship with Keira Knightley, personally. The accent and gorgeous looks alone could sustain me for years.

But, but... she's so... *girly* {shudder}

Like I said, I loves me some hot chicks, but the girly ones? They're nice to look at, but I don't really want anything more to do with 'em than that.

To me, that girly, high-maintenance, makeup and purses stuff, just ain't doin' it fer me. Nor is the "I'm so macho I'm tougher than all o'yall" crap either.

Gimme a gal (or guy, or other gender) who is well-rounded and balances strong, hard, "masculine" attributes, with gentle, soft, "feminine" ones, both inside and out, and I'm smitten. Someone who can cry at movies, but rough it in a tent for a week. Who can "awww" over babies, but doesn't have to coat themselves in paint to leave the house. Someone who is a girl who looks like a boy who looks like a girl, or a boy who looks like a girl who looks like a boy. Those are the things that I look for. Especially if they be smart. Extra swoon points if they are a nerd like me. And I also really like boobs.

I know, I'm lucky I got Ash, cuz those qualities are hard to find all in the same person. lol (I ain't picky, just "discerning"...;))

Quote from: NES_junkie_James on September 18, 2009, 11:06:22 PM
But, but... she's so... *girly* {shudder}

Like I said, I loves me some hot chicks, but the girly ones? They're nice to look at, but I don't really want anything more to do with 'em than that.

To me, that girly, high-maintenance, makeup and purses stuff, just ain't doin' it fer me. Nor is the "I'm so macho I'm tougher than all o'yall" crap either.

Gimme a gal (or guy, or other gender) who is well-rounded and balances strong, hard, "masculine" attributes, with gentle, soft, "feminine" ones, both inside and out, and I'm smitten. Someone who can cry at movies, but rough it in a tent for a week. Who can "awww" over babies, but doesn't have to coat themselves in paint to leave the house. Someone who is a girl who looks like a boy who looks like a girl, or a boy who looks like a girl who looks like a boy. Those are the things that I look for. Especially if they be smart. Extra swoon points if they are a nerd like me. And I also really like boobs.

I know, I'm lucky I got Ash, cuz those qualities are hard to find all in the same person. lol (I ain't picky, just "discerning"...;))

I agree wholeheartedly with the "middleground androgynous" guys/girls. I can't handle anyone that looks or acts much manlier than myself...usually it ends in a lot of messy fighting, partially due to my insecurities in my masculinity I'm sure. Who knows if this will change on T.

As for Kiera Knightly...actually, I found her look too masculine for my tastes (her jawline and thick eyebrows put me off a lot). I'd much rather Angelina Jolie or my ultimate wet dream, Jessica Alba *drool*. Jessica can do anything she wants with me, no questions asked ;)

I've noticed some people saying "my opinions have changed since I was on T"...is this normal? With you guys on T, have you actually noticed your sex preference shift, or just your preferences within your specified "category"? Going to be starting T soon (hopefully) so still trying to discern exactly what emotional and personality changes I should expect.

Quote from: chrissyboy on September 19, 2009, 05:07:23 AM
I've noticed some people saying "my opinions have changed since I was on T"...is this normal? With you guys on T, have you actually noticed your sex preference shift, or just your preferences within your specified "category"? Going to be starting T soon (hopefully) so still trying to discern exactly what emotional and personality changes I should expect.

For me, personally, I've found my tastes shifting more strongly toward the masculine.  Where at one time I could see myself with a woman, even if I wasn't particularly attracted to them, now I can't imagine being with a woman at all.  And my taste in men seems to be shifting toward a more masculine type as well.  But is that to do with the T, or is it just a coincidental mood?  I don't know.  I think it has partially to do with an increased interest in sex, as opposed to an idealized romantic interest.  But that's just a theory.

There are a number of people who have completely switched teams after starting hormones, and again, there is much argument over whether it has to do with the hormones themselves, or if it's just a matter of finding a new freedom to explore.  Personally, I think there is probably some of both involved, to different degrees with different people.

Completely OT, but NES_junkie_James, has your tattoo in your avatar been in a tattoo magazine before? It looks really familiar.

I don't find my tastes changing. I still am attracted to femininity.

Quote from: chrissyboy on September 19, 2009, 05:07:23 AM
I'd much rather Angelina Jolie or my ultimate wet dream, Jessica Alba *drool*. Jessica can do anything she wants with me, no questions asked ;)

With you on Jessica Alba but I never really liked Angelina. Looks like she got punched in the mouth to me.

SilverFang

Quote from: Radar on September 19, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
Completely OT, but NES_junkie_James, has your tattoo in your avatar been in a tattoo magazine before? It looks really familiar.

Nope, never. But there are probably others with similar tats I'm sure. :)

Quote from: NES_junkie_James on September 19, 2009, 02:11:31 PM
Nope, never. But there are probably others with similar tats I'm sure. :)

I could have sworn that you used your tat as your avatar before.  Maybe that is why it looks familiar.

Quote from: myles on September 14, 2009, 02:43:02 PM
I am attracted to women. I have tended to date the fem type but would not say that is set in stone just who I have dated before. My SO would be classified in that group.
Myles

yup, this describes who I'm attracted to 100%. Mostly fem but I've been attracted to more androgynous and tomboyish women before too

Quote from: noxdraconis on September 19, 2009, 04:33:19 PMI could have sworn that you used your tat as your avatar before.  Maybe that is why it looks familiar.

No, I've seen that tattoo (or one alot like it) in a tattoo magazine before.

/thread jack

Some REAL cuties in Santa Cruz! Yes I was there today, had a decent day and ended up sitting and talking and having a beer with a gal, no it was not a date or anything, she was having a VERY hard day and I went from trying to sell her one of my ribbons to deciding to sit and talk and listen and be a friend - this is what we'll all have to do in these coming times. Funny, she's very decent looking but no attraction to her, just wanting to help her out with a figurative shoulder to cry on.

But wow some of the gals down there, so many "ride-able" butts vroom! vroom!

Right now precisely who I shouldn't be... (my ex :( )
*emo moment over*
I consider myself pansexual and/or fluid. I go through phases of liking masculine/feminine people more, but I'd say I average at 60/40 m/f.

Quote from: noxdraconis on September 19, 2009, 04:33:19 PM
I could have sworn that you used your tat as your avatar before.  Maybe that is why it looks familiar.

Yeah, I've used it as my avatar before. :)

Quote from: Radar on September 19, 2009, 07:18:00 PM
No, I've seen that tattoo (or one alot like it) in a tattoo magazine before.

Hmm, well it's only been complete for a couple of months and I'm pretty sure my artist hasn't submitted it any tattoo magazines (nor have I). But like I said, it's very possible that similar ones have been done on others. :)

Quote from: Alex_C on September 18, 2009, 12:52:09 AM
Tripp I'd probably be right up your alley from the description you give.

That being said, people on the Internet never meet so it's all academic.

All academic? Aww.  :(
Well, the next time I'm in Sunny Cal maybe I'll drop by  ;)

Feminine women who take care of themselves.

I think most of our ladies are hot.