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So I've been a huge Firefox (http://firefox.com) fan since it came out because of its availability across any platform I wish to use. Windows, Solaris, Linux, it worked great on all of them. The only web browser that even came close was Opera (http://www.opera.com/).

Last night I was watching Startgate SG-1 on HULU (http://hulu.com) using Firefox and I was getting serious lag spikes. IE7 and IE8 were much worse. Now I love my Stargate, dang it, I don't appreciate being interrupted by buffering. I've also been getting a lot more random crashes since the release of Firefox 3.5.x. I checked my router RRD graphs and was not seeing any coinciding packet loss  so I decided to give Google Chrome (http://www.google.com/chrome) a try.

I gotta tell you. I'm impressed. Usually when my virus scanner starts it's daily scan at 4:00 AM and if I happen to still be up watching a video I will start getting major lag spikes. I've also noticed that if I have my email client running (Thunderbird) I also get random lag. But while I was watching a video on HULU, running and virus scan, and had Thunderbird running video playback was flawless.

Other web pages are also loading extremely fast. For instance I checked load times for Susans.org in both browsers. In Firefox it took 0.348 seconds with 22 queries. In Chrome it took 0.179 seconds with 22 queries. So page load time was literally reduced by half. Another big plus for me was how much more page space you have with Chrome. I also really like the detachable tabs even though firefox can do that too. Chrome actually does it a little better. Now I'm not completely ready to switch yet. I like my firefox addons and I get a little nervous when a company tries to get a hand into too many different markets. Especially one whos primary objective is to collect information and sell advertising but honestly, If they get UNIX/Linux support soon I may be tempted even more to switch.     

anything renders pages better than firefox. gawd i hate that PoS browser. I dn't under stand it's hype AT ALL.

I'll go ahead and say it, i like IE better than firefox. there. i said it.

but yea, opera is my favorite!! all the others only immitate!!

Google Chrome is by far my favorite browser now.

Ah the Google-ish front end on Safari. Did not care for it much, still use FF even on Hulu.

Sorry Sis,

But I went back to Firefox, because Chrome takes up way too much memory.  And it tracks where you go.  And I did not get any better performance.


Janet

As for tracking, I've not seen solid evidence of it, though I won't say it's not possible. It does take up more hard drive space then Firefox but as far as memory usage:

Firefox: ~50,620k
Chrome ~22,184k

Quote from: Cami on September 18, 2009, 07:14:34 PM
As for tracking, I've not seen solid evidence of it, though I won't say it's not possible. It does take up more hard drive space then Firefox but as far as memory usage:

Firefox: ~50,620k
Chrome ~22,184k

Actually, Sis.  It is the CPU that it overloads.  With Chrome the CPU is at 100%.  With Firefox around 30%.


Janet

Hmm, thats odd. For me CPU usage runs at one to two percent while using chrome But between three and eight percent using Firefox. I'd be interested to hear what others are getting. I'd like to be well informed on how it performs on different hardware before I go recommending it to clients.

Most of the time if I'm using Windows my system specs are:

AMD Athlon 64bit Dual core 2.20 Ghz.
2.5 GB DDR2 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS
Segate 80 GB IDE ATA w/8 Meg buffer 

I've used Firefox for years and have no complaints. For streaming things like Netflix though, they require IE so I just use IE for things like that.

lately I've been using safari though for general use, firefox as a backup

I'd love to switch to Chrome completely, but Firefox has such a nifty add-on architecture, as well as a level of maturity and support that Chrome can't yet match.

Needs her plugins and add-ons...

I gave up on Firefox about six months ago after using it for a long time. I usually run Linux, and in Linux it was messing with my keyboard, to the point of being unusable. So in Linux I switched to Epiphany and it's solid. Firefox in Windows was still OK until a few weeks ago, when it started freezing randomly and taking up a huge amount of resources. I won't use IE at all, so I tried Chrome and it works quite well, for the very little amount of time I spend booted into Windows.

Quote from: Kait on September 19, 2009, 10:38:20 AM
I'd love to switch to Chrome completely, but Firefox has such a nifty add-on architecture, as well as a level of maturity and support that Chrome can't yet match.

Needs her plugins and add-ons...

Yep. Thats the one major thing that keeps me from switching to chrome completely. I love the add ons.

The add-ons and the level of customization in Firefox is such that I see no reason to switch, though I hear raves about Chrome all the time. 

The flexibility and compatibility of firefox makes it really hard to switch completely. It's like breaking up with your boyfriend. 

boy/girl friends are much easier to break up with then a good program.  I still pine for the good old days of AmiPro, an old WP program.

I was a FireFox fan for quite awhile. Love some of the add ons. But it kept messing up on me.

Some of the other browsers may not have allot of frills, But at least they work

As an iMac girl I use Safari exclusively.  I've tried various flavours of Opera and Firefox, but always return to Safari.

-={LR}=-

Quote from: Cami on September 19, 2009, 10:54:41 AM
Yep. Thats the one major thing that keeps me from switching to chrome completely. I love the add ons.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc05.deviantart.com%2Ffs45%2Ff%2F2009%2F059%2Fd%2Fa%2FDitto_Smile_by_JedidJah.gif&hash=c19f774bdece11c61ed6982690257ee30db66344)


But the latest versions of Firefox have been way below expectations.  Less compatibility and more crashes.  Port some of these add-ons over to Chrome and I may be there. 

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi

I love Firefox, but it's starting to turn into the Mozilla Monster.  The feature that checks to see if the websites you are visiting are 'attack sites' was constantly accessing my hard drive and making my system freeze so I had to turn it off.  Not a big deal since I'm smart enough to never go to 'attack sites', but it's not a good sign.  Still, I can't give up my addons so I'm sticking with it for now :).

Also, for those websites that 'require' you to use IE, there's an addon called IE Tab that allows you to render web pages using IE, within firefox, you can switch back and forth with a little button and the bottom right corner.  So you never have to open the awful IE program ever.

I just switched from IE 7 to Firefox 3.5. Works good so far. Only been a day or so though. Already enjoying the 'read later list' add on immensely.

The addons and features of Firefox are "neat" but once you've added one, you're bound to add another, and yet another, and yet another. It's like with tattoos, you can always get "one more"... and then, before you know it, you've got an over inflated and unstable pile of addons that you don't want to uninstall because they do "neat" things.
And then Firefox starts crashing repeatedly.
And then you start thinking of changing browsers, cause Firefox just isn't working out any more. But you want to be able to customize it, and use addons...

Me, I just want a stable browser that does the simple thing, lets me bookmark sites so I can go to them later and mill about the internet. Chrome's all that I need.
Until the addons come... oh gods... and themes..

And then I'll start customizing...

>.<

LOL Miniar, I admit I'm guilty of multiple add on adding. But for the last week now I've been using Chrome exclusively. I think I may be hooked. I love the themes and being able to search right form the address bar is awesome. 

Quote from: Cami on September 20, 2009, 04:40:23 PM
being able to search right form the address bar is awesome. 

welcome to opera 1.0  :)


:eusa_whistle:

I love Firefox.

However I will agree it has become problematic instead of less problems. Not all of it is Mozilla's fault.

Flash issues drive me insane at times, and yet is a Adobe issue. Expect Adobe issues to multiply, they still have yet to embrace 64bit, which more and more are switching to.

Some of the updates have not been working very smooth either, I had to backup and reload all of my passwords and such because it messed up the file. Also slower and slower to load as it ages.


Despite all of that and more, I still prefer it. I.E. was designed by Stevie Wonder. Opera just wasn't compatible with me for some reason. I just wasn't happy with it. Google wasn't bad, but I longed for a few plugins and like the others... TOO MANY ADS! so frustrating when you can't read the page because of so much crap on them.

welcome to opera 1.0  :)


I didn't know Opera had the search from address bar... cool.

I actually started using it on my Linux machines because Firefox started having serious performance issues on site that used static background images like Myspace.

Th lack of 64bit flash support for Linux is annoying as hell and honestly is the soul reason that I don't use Linux 100% of the time. I run it for everything except for when I want to watch flash videos. Annoying...

Quote from: Cami on September 20, 2009, 10:16:11 PM
Th lack of 64bit flash support for Linux is annoying as hell and honestly is the soul reason that I don't use Linux 100% of the time. I run it for everything except for when I want to watch flash videos. Annoying...

There is  no 64bit flash support for any os.

True but at least it will still run on windows even if it is a 64bit version. In Linux you have to either be running a 32bit version or something like an ndiswrapper.

Flash Player on Linux is bad enough without ndiswrapper.  :D

Quote from: Cami on September 21, 2009, 10:38:00 AM
True but at least it will still run on windows even if it is a 64bit version. In Linux you have to either be running a 32bit version or something like an ndiswrapper.

Sort of.

To use it in 64bit windows you have to use the 32bit IE. Firefox is only 32 bit still anyhow, but even that has become  problem because some sites do not recognize that you have the newest version of Flash and say you need to install it.  >:(  Which means reverting to IE for many sites. Something I despise.

None of it seems acceptable to me. It's not like Firefox is a small portion of the population, and 64bit is not far behind it. Vista should never have been released in 32bit (it runs like crap on anything 32bit),  Win7 is the last 32bit for MS.


It's annoying when a company becomes a standard and then slacks off.

Quote from: Kait on September 21, 2009, 12:25:16 PM
Flash Player on Linux is bad enough without ndiswrapper.  :D

I actually had to laugh cause your so right!

Quote from: Leslie Ann on September 21, 2009, 06:52:50 PM

It's annoying when a company becomes a standard and then slacks off.

I feel ya!

AHHHHH NERD TALK......(Sorry lol)

All i know is that I have a computer it "does things" to make my life eaiser.

But now to join the chat..... Opera FTW  :laugh:

I recently added on "DownThemAll" to Firefox and now Youtube is lighting fast.  Now I can watch "V".

If you don't remember it from 1983.  Just a taste maybe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQBC1H-t9Q0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQBC1H-t9Q0#)

And it is coming back in 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEqAfTL4Hs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEqAfTL4Hs#)


Janet

Janet,
what's 'down them all'?

It is an add on for Foxfire that increases the speed of dowhloads.  You can go to "Tools", then "Add ons" then "Get Down Get Add Ons".  Then just type in "DownThemAll" as one word.

It really gets things like YouTube ripping.  Not as fast as DSL, but good for Wifi.

If you like Foxfire and add oons, you got get this one.


Janet

it is indeed an awesome addon. Been using it for quite a while myself... yet one more thing that makes it hard to switch.

Do you mean it helps watching youtube videos have better performance or when you download to keep a video?

it helps with downloading for keeps :)

If its worth downloading, its worth the quarter or whatever to download it straight to a burn file, burn it, and not put it on the hard drive, or even your remote back up.

Wow......all this talk of software is giving me hot flushes...... smiles

Actually on topic I have no idea what most of you were saying, I click on my firefox icon and up pops Susan's page, I  enjoy reading what people say and don't have to get here too fast.

Off topic, may I say that Cami you look absolutely lovely and congratulations on going fulltime.

Rebecca xx

Quote from: tekla on September 30, 2009, 03:09:02 PM
If its worth downloading, its worth the quarter or whatever to download it straight to a burn file, burn it, and not put it on the hard drive, or even your remote back up.

Why would you want to burn it to DVD or whatever?  YouTube vids are small, and hard disks are getting larger every day.  I've got 1.25 Tb, not including my external HDD.

After some hunting through Firefox add-ons, I have something here which looks very much like Chrome, but is really Firefox.  Click to view. :)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi508.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs329%2FNephieK%2Fth_Untitled-1.jpg&hash=0419fdbd79086a90f7e54acc21f805d144f58b26) (http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s329/NephieK/Untitled-1.jpg)