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Title: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Nicky on September 28, 2009, 02:39:28 PM
Post by: Nicky on September 28, 2009, 02:39:28 PM
My hair dresser said that it is not that important what shampoo you choose as it is often not in your hair long enough to make much difference. Conditioner is where it is at and worth splurging on.
I suffer from a dry scalp and tend to use a anti-dandruff shampoo - none of them are particulalry classy. But lately I figured that I could use a better conditioner than the matching antidandruff one and it won't affect my scalp too bad.
But, I picked up some new conditioner at the supermarket on a whim (I know, goes against the advise of buysing a good one.) - and it was awsome!
I got Pantene Pro V Sheer Volume conditioner.
Worked great on my hair. After a couple washes it did what it promised - shiny hair, more volume, soft silky hair. I love it!
I suffer from a dry scalp and tend to use a anti-dandruff shampoo - none of them are particulalry classy. But lately I figured that I could use a better conditioner than the matching antidandruff one and it won't affect my scalp too bad.
But, I picked up some new conditioner at the supermarket on a whim (I know, goes against the advise of buysing a good one.) - and it was awsome!
I got Pantene Pro V Sheer Volume conditioner.
Worked great on my hair. After a couple washes it did what it promised - shiny hair, more volume, soft silky hair. I love it!
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Jamie-o on September 29, 2009, 01:31:04 AM
Post by: Jamie-o on September 29, 2009, 01:31:04 AM
I'll agree. Pantene knocks the socks off the expensive salon brands. In fact, I remember several years ago there was a segment done on Dateline with the help of Consumer Reports in which they asked a bunch of high-end hair product makers why their shampoos were so expensive. Time and again they were told, "Our shampoo has less water than the super market brands." So they did chemical analysis on a bunch of salon and super market shampoos and found 2 that had less water in them than the others - Pantene and Head and shoulder. :D The report said that shampoo is shampoo, they all use the same active ingredient. But conditioners can use a number of different ingredients to protect the hair and make it shiny, with the best (in their estimation) using silicone. But, whatever it uses, I've never found anything that holds a candle to Pantene.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: LordKAT on September 29, 2009, 01:34:08 AM
Post by: LordKAT on September 29, 2009, 01:34:08 AM
vinegar and water works well and even helps with dandruff a bit.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Miniar on September 29, 2009, 07:34:21 AM
Post by: Miniar on September 29, 2009, 07:34:21 AM
that green one is pretty good too
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: sd on September 29, 2009, 01:46:39 PM
Post by: sd on September 29, 2009, 01:46:39 PM
I had back luck with Pantene stuff lately.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: BrandiOK on September 29, 2009, 02:44:33 PM
Post by: BrandiOK on September 29, 2009, 02:44:33 PM
I loved Pantene when I first started using it but after awhile it didn't seem to work any better than other conditioners I tried. I assume that's why they recommend changing your shampoo/conditioner occasionally.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Autumn on September 29, 2009, 04:54:12 PM
Post by: Autumn on September 29, 2009, 04:54:12 PM
I used pantene for a while, and it was like oh my god for my hair. then it turned to crap.
I've had it explained by multiple stylists and random people with long hair - it leaves a lot of wax in your hair, which is why it looks so great at first. But the buildup prevents natural oils from getting to your hair, and causes other problems from use at length. Very controversial products. I'll surely never use it again.
I've been using stuff from Visible Changes for years (preview, take 1, take 2, and a few other things i've experimented with lately) with a few breaks to try other products - that again, were good to start with, but my hair needed to return to the quality products after a couple of months.
Everybody loves my hair and always tells me how soft it is, so I'm doing something right.
I've had it explained by multiple stylists and random people with long hair - it leaves a lot of wax in your hair, which is why it looks so great at first. But the buildup prevents natural oils from getting to your hair, and causes other problems from use at length. Very controversial products. I'll surely never use it again.
I've been using stuff from Visible Changes for years (preview, take 1, take 2, and a few other things i've experimented with lately) with a few breaks to try other products - that again, were good to start with, but my hair needed to return to the quality products after a couple of months.
Everybody loves my hair and always tells me how soft it is, so I'm doing something right.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Nicky on September 29, 2009, 05:07:07 PM
Post by: Nicky on September 29, 2009, 05:07:07 PM
Interesting Autumn,
I think I will consider chopping and changing to avoid that problem.
I think I will consider chopping and changing to avoid that problem.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: sd on September 30, 2009, 01:15:46 AM
Post by: sd on September 30, 2009, 01:15:46 AM
All of that wax and silicone not only builds up, but hides any real damage underneath.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: finewine on September 30, 2009, 01:23:00 AM
Post by: finewine on September 30, 2009, 01:23:00 AM
Some girls in tropical parts of Asia use coconut oil to give their long dark hair a nice conditioning and lustre. You need to know how to apply it, so you don't end up looking like you dipped your head in a deep fat fryer! :)
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Nicky on September 30, 2009, 07:10:09 PM
Post by: Nicky on September 30, 2009, 07:10:09 PM
Quote from: Leslie Ann on September 30, 2009, 01:15:46 AM
All of that wax and silicone not only builds up, but hides any real damage underneath.
That sounds like a good thing.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: sd on October 01, 2009, 01:22:28 AM
Post by: sd on October 01, 2009, 01:22:28 AM
Quote from: Nicky on September 30, 2009, 07:10:09 PMIt is if you want it to look good, but it also doesn't mean anything is being done to fix it or prevent it.
That sounds like a good thing.
Putting wax on a rusty car doesn't stop the rust, it just makes it shiny.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 07, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 07, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
Everyone's hair& scalps are different, so my theory is if it works, it's good. My dandaref went away after hrt. But I have dark brunette hair that I dye bananna peel blonde. This damages my hair if I don't take steps beyond regular conditioning to prevent it. My 2 best secrets are 1) 100% pure jojoba oil after wash & cond. dark is best for dark hair/skin, light is best for light hair/skin. 2) & Wild Oats is cheapsest I've found & once a week & before/after dyeing hair I cond. w/egg whites covered by saran wrap(to keep wet as possible) for 1hr. You can buy egg whites in a carton, but that would just be silly cuz you'd have no yokes leftover to make choc. frosting with(I don't need no stinking cake)!
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Walter on October 08, 2009, 04:06:23 AM
Post by: Walter on October 08, 2009, 04:06:23 AM
Since I dye my hair, I use the expensive stuff that still doesn't work for me. I have super oily hair and the conditioner just makes that happen faster. I rarely use conditioner, but my hair seems to be falling out. Maybe I should stop dying it....
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: heatherrose on October 08, 2009, 08:34:13 AM
Post by: heatherrose on October 08, 2009, 08:34:13 AM
My hair is curly, fine and tends to be dry. As it began getting longer
(after years shaved bald) I started using Pantene because I believed
the T.V. (not a pun) propaganda. It worked great until I noticed my hair
breaking off, seemingly by the handfuls. When I started asking around,
I got responses like, "Oh yea, Pantene does that because of the wax build up"
AAAAAARRRGG I wish I had known that before
I spent my money to damage my hair.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: sd on October 08, 2009, 02:24:13 PM
Post by: sd on October 08, 2009, 02:24:13 PM
Quote from: Bellaon7 on October 07, 2009, 06:40:14 PMQuite true.
Everyone's hair& scalps are different, so my theory is if it works, it's good.
The another factor is water quality.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: finewine on October 08, 2009, 04:36:13 PM
Post by: finewine on October 08, 2009, 04:36:13 PM
It's said by some that if you can bear the unpleasantness, a sufficiently long period without washing at all allows the natural scalp oils to do the trick (ever wondered why the wild furries have nice shiny coats?)
In my yoof I did an experiment to see if this was true (as I had fairly long hair). It was NOT pleasant, especially as I've always been rather fastidious about personal hygiene. Anyway, it took a full (and foul) 6 months but I did indeed find that my hair ended up naturally conditioned and, as it happened, remarkably "clean" simply by combing through.
However, getting it wet immediately turned it into matted straw - which was fine as I was literally aching to give it a thorough wash.
So in conclusion - yes, you can go through the greebo stage and end up with a nature's own conditioning but unless you want to be Tarzan/Jane, you're better off with the bottled products :)
In my yoof I did an experiment to see if this was true (as I had fairly long hair). It was NOT pleasant, especially as I've always been rather fastidious about personal hygiene. Anyway, it took a full (and foul) 6 months but I did indeed find that my hair ended up naturally conditioned and, as it happened, remarkably "clean" simply by combing through.
However, getting it wet immediately turned it into matted straw - which was fine as I was literally aching to give it a thorough wash.
So in conclusion - yes, you can go through the greebo stage and end up with a nature's own conditioning but unless you want to be Tarzan/Jane, you're better off with the bottled products :)
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 10, 2009, 08:29:15 PM
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 10, 2009, 08:29:15 PM
This is why I use 100% jo joba oil, it's nearly bio identical to the oills your hait & scalp produce, has no smell, & is naturaly hypoallergenic, & you can control the exact amount/colour to yout hair type. It also helps w/dander.
Title: Re: Cheap conditioner that is the awsomesauce
Post by: Eva Marie on October 11, 2009, 10:28:16 PM
Post by: Eva Marie on October 11, 2009, 10:28:16 PM
I recently switched to garnier fructis shampoo and conditioner. I noticed a real difference over the generic suave stuff that I had been using. My hair was a lot fluffier and nicer. I'm happy at the moment.