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Title: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Kara on October 14, 2009, 08:26:33 AM
Post by: Kara on October 14, 2009, 08:26:33 AM
Has anyone else noticed this? Discrimination today isn't overt and people won't come right out and be direct with it, but it's still there. It's like hanging around in the background waiting for a chance to show itself when no one's paying attention.
For instance, this morning, I left my dorm room to shower and walked through some tape that someone had placed in front of my door. I guess they were hoping that I'd trip on it, but I just broke it by not noticing.
There are other things too. I've definitely noticed a pattern that I'm getting treated differently for being who I am.
For instance, this morning, I left my dorm room to shower and walked through some tape that someone had placed in front of my door. I guess they were hoping that I'd trip on it, but I just broke it by not noticing.
There are other things too. I've definitely noticed a pattern that I'm getting treated differently for being who I am.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Alex_C on October 15, 2009, 12:58:13 AM
Post by: Alex_C on October 15, 2009, 12:58:13 AM
They really thought you'd trip on tape? Dorks.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Kara on October 15, 2009, 01:04:09 AM
Post by: Kara on October 15, 2009, 01:04:09 AM
Quote from: Alex_C on October 15, 2009, 12:58:13 AM
They really thought you'd trip on tape? Dorks.
It makes sense. If you're groggy and half-asleep in the morning, you won't be paying attention where you walk.
Anyways, I mentioned this to the president of the LBGT club on campus and the first thing she said was, "You're being harassed."
I've also been told that I might be overstating the matter, that it's just a prank. Personally, though, I don't believe it.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Alex_C on October 15, 2009, 01:40:02 AM
Post by: Alex_C on October 15, 2009, 01:40:02 AM
I had stuff written all over my door at the olympic training center.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: jesse on October 15, 2009, 04:10:17 AM
Post by: jesse on October 15, 2009, 04:10:17 AM
grrrrr people you know if you dont like us why cant they just leave us be. On your olympic door kyle really are you kidding fine way to represent the U.S. Lets go tag a fellow atheletes door with crap because he's different. oh well i guess we all have to put up with this at times. Im sorry this is happening to you hun but i wouldnt let a second incident of this pass unchallenged it will only encourage them i think.
jessica
jessica
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: chrysalis on October 15, 2009, 04:42:17 AM
Post by: chrysalis on October 15, 2009, 04:42:17 AM
Well it hurts but you can't force someone to change their opinion. They might be uncomfortable with it, and that's their right. When they start singling you out for it etc. that's when problems arise and you should look into it. Really though the tape isn't that much and could be a prank.
You don't want to acquire the reputation of a whine so at some point there is a level of low lying petty b.s. you have to tolerate. I've had similar incidents but really it wears off once you realize they have been relegated to the tiniest and most harmless of pranks.
You don't want to acquire the reputation of a whine so at some point there is a level of low lying petty b.s. you have to tolerate. I've had similar incidents but really it wears off once you realize they have been relegated to the tiniest and most harmless of pranks.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: jesse on October 15, 2009, 04:45:46 AM
Post by: jesse on October 15, 2009, 04:45:46 AM
Quote from: chrysalis on October 15, 2009, 04:42:17 AMgood point i agree
You don't want to acquire the reputation of a whine so at some point there is a level of low lying petty b.s. you have to tolerate. I've had similar incidents but really it wears off once you realize they have been relegated to the tiniest and most harmless of pranks.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Cindy on October 15, 2009, 05:31:22 AM
Post by: Cindy on October 15, 2009, 05:31:22 AM
Totally agree here,
Don't read to much into it. When I was at Uni in the UK, it was the total norm to play practical jokes on people. Even if you didn't really know them.
We had cars just jacked up so the tyres didn't quite touch the road, black shoe polish on loo seats, and one of the best someones entire room, bed, wardrobe clothes etc neatly reconstructed in the car park. Of course we all helped rebuild after. If it's nasty it's diffent but college and Uni are about laughs, try not to take it too seriously.
The best I have ever seen was for a medical student whose car was lifted to the top of the hospital and parked on the roof. The crane used was in a building program and taken away. After a laugh we all paid for another crane to bring it back down. Cost a bit but lordess it was funny. And of course the guy who was targeted "enjoyed" the attention.
Jokes are jokes. The young are young. Live it up a bit.
You never know this may be a way of people accepting you. If you can joke back, draw lipstick lips on your forehead, and say I tripped over something and missed.
Hope you are OK. Sometimes we are pretty quick to call discrimination when it wasn't meant. I hope it wasn't meant in your case.
Cindy
Don't read to much into it. When I was at Uni in the UK, it was the total norm to play practical jokes on people. Even if you didn't really know them.
We had cars just jacked up so the tyres didn't quite touch the road, black shoe polish on loo seats, and one of the best someones entire room, bed, wardrobe clothes etc neatly reconstructed in the car park. Of course we all helped rebuild after. If it's nasty it's diffent but college and Uni are about laughs, try not to take it too seriously.
The best I have ever seen was for a medical student whose car was lifted to the top of the hospital and parked on the roof. The crane used was in a building program and taken away. After a laugh we all paid for another crane to bring it back down. Cost a bit but lordess it was funny. And of course the guy who was targeted "enjoyed" the attention.
Jokes are jokes. The young are young. Live it up a bit.
You never know this may be a way of people accepting you. If you can joke back, draw lipstick lips on your forehead, and say I tripped over something and missed.
Hope you are OK. Sometimes we are pretty quick to call discrimination when it wasn't meant. I hope it wasn't meant in your case.
Cindy
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: fluffy jorgen on October 15, 2009, 07:58:30 AM
Post by: fluffy jorgen on October 15, 2009, 07:58:30 AM
I used to take it to heart as well. Suppose being kicked in the back again and again, literally, isn't worth whining about, yeah.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Julie Marie on October 15, 2009, 08:33:54 AM
Post by: Julie Marie on October 15, 2009, 08:33:54 AM
Spineless people do things behind your back. Pranks are another thing. You have to know the difference but to do that you have to know who did it. If it's a prank, you'll usually find out because they want to know if they got you.
I lived in a dorm in college where all the doors and frames were steel. If you jammed a couple of pennies between the frame and the door, right where the door strike is, it would make opening the door impossible without a wrench. It was called "pennying" someone in their room.
One time someone pennied a guy in his room. He couldn't get out. He made a lot of noise, yelling and screaming until someone let him out. Then he vowed revenge unless the perpetrator fessed up. No one did so one day the entire floor found themselves pennied in their rooms when they got up the next morning. And in the morning you have to pee! He finally let us out and the RA forbade anymore pennying after that but the guy definitely got respect. And no one was upset with him. We all understood and actually found it funny. No one ever did fess up though. :D
If you know it's harassment, see if you can find out who taped your door, approach them and let them know you know. Then see how they react. Your presence in front of them, and their reaction to the fact you know, will tell you what kind of person they are. And you not being afraid to confront them will tell them what kind of person you are.
Julie
I lived in a dorm in college where all the doors and frames were steel. If you jammed a couple of pennies between the frame and the door, right where the door strike is, it would make opening the door impossible without a wrench. It was called "pennying" someone in their room.
One time someone pennied a guy in his room. He couldn't get out. He made a lot of noise, yelling and screaming until someone let him out. Then he vowed revenge unless the perpetrator fessed up. No one did so one day the entire floor found themselves pennied in their rooms when they got up the next morning. And in the morning you have to pee! He finally let us out and the RA forbade anymore pennying after that but the guy definitely got respect. And no one was upset with him. We all understood and actually found it funny. No one ever did fess up though. :D
If you know it's harassment, see if you can find out who taped your door, approach them and let them know you know. Then see how they react. Your presence in front of them, and their reaction to the fact you know, will tell you what kind of person they are. And you not being afraid to confront them will tell them what kind of person you are.
Julie
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Kara on October 15, 2009, 10:22:11 AM
Post by: Kara on October 15, 2009, 10:22:11 AM
It would be nice if all this amounted to was a silly prank. I'm hoping that's the case. But I have a feeling that's not the case. I did meet with my RD last night and she said kind of the same thing. I'm just not willing to let this go in case it is what I suspect.
As yes, I do have a very low tolerance for b.s. I don't know if that makes me anal retentive or not, but I don't put up with a lot.
As yes, I do have a very low tolerance for b.s. I don't know if that makes me anal retentive or not, but I don't put up with a lot.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Alex_C on October 15, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
Post by: Alex_C on October 15, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
I WAS THE ONE WHO HAD STUFF WRITTEN ON MY DOOR AT THE OLYMPIC CENTER.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 16, 2009, 12:54:26 AM
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 16, 2009, 12:54:26 AM
Quote from: Alex_C on October 15, 2009, 02:53:23 PMYou said something in another thread that made a whole lot of girls here fall in love. It does't matter what, when, or where. I'm not the only one dreaming, but thank you for giving us girls that!
I WAS THE ONE WHO HAD STUFF WRITTEN ON MY DOOR AT THE OLYMPIC CENTER.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 01:13:23 AM
Post by: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 01:13:23 AM
And as you need to learn is usual with me, I have no idea what it is I said that has this effect, or whom may be the ones affected.
Too bad Internet people are kinda like the people in Philhip K. Dick's book Ubik suspended in "half-life", kinda real but not really.
If I can only have that effect on people in real life.
Too bad Internet people are kinda like the people in Philhip K. Dick's book Ubik suspended in "half-life", kinda real but not really.
If I can only have that effect on people in real life.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 16, 2009, 01:36:06 AM
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 16, 2009, 01:36:06 AM
I think you misunderstand, you did & said nothing wrong, ever! You said instead, all the right things, not to me, but just what a girl wants to hear. I'm sorry if I implied diff, that's not where I'm coming from at all. I'm not trying to mess with you & I am sorry if I made it look that way. You are more than just a descent guy. You will fight for your girl & I love that!
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 01:43:08 AM
Post by: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 01:43:08 AM
Oh, no problem, I think I'm probably running the risk of getting kicked off of the site for standing up to some people who've said some divisive things, we'll see. Usually the one who stands up for what they think is right, pays the price.
And I'm glad I said the right thing whatever it is, I just get a bit exasperated sometime, everyone is on the internet now and it'd darned hard to meet people in real life.
And I'm glad I said the right thing whatever it is, I just get a bit exasperated sometime, everyone is on the internet now and it'd darned hard to meet people in real life.
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 16, 2009, 01:58:13 AM
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 16, 2009, 01:58:13 AM
Quote from: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 01:43:08 AMI don't think so. If you want to go on your own that's your perogative, but if any of US has anything to say, you aren't going anywhere! We love you & you will have to get rid of US, before you go anywhere!!!
Oh, no problem, I think I'm probably running the risk of getting kicked off of the site for standing up to some people who've said some divisive things, we'll see. Usually the one who stands up for what they think is right, pays the price.
And I'm glad I said the right thing whatever it is, I just get a bit exasperated sometime, everyone is on the internet now and it'd darned hard to meet people in real life.
Post Merge: October 16, 2009, 02:08:13 AM
I'm with ALL of you & nothing can tear US apart EVER!!!
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 02:17:26 AM
Post by: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 02:17:26 AM
Anyone who considers a brick of C4 a good time .... >:-)
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 16, 2009, 02:59:50 AM
Post by: Bellaon7 on October 16, 2009, 02:59:50 AM
Quote from: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 02:17:26 AMNow THAT'S the MAN us gurls ooo...luv!
Anyone who considers a brick of C4 a good time .... >:-)
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Quote from: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 02:17:26 AM
Anyone who considers a brick of C4 a good time .... >:-)
Post Merge: October 16, 2009, 03:00:38 AM
Quote from: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 02:17:26 AM
Anyone who considers a brick of C4 a good time .... >:-)
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: jesse on October 16, 2009, 03:27:02 AM
Post by: jesse on October 16, 2009, 03:27:02 AM
i agree with bellaon 7 smoking hott alex hehe
Post Merge: October 16, 2009, 03:32:04 AM
it only took two wrds olympic athelete = lust combined with "Oh, no problem, I think I'm probably running the risk of getting kicked off of the site for standing up to some people who've said some divisive things, we'll see. Usually the one who stands up for what they think is right, pays the price. " the willingness to defend us = love at first written words :eusa_clap:
jessica
Post Merge: October 16, 2009, 03:32:04 AM
it only took two wrds olympic athelete = lust combined with "Oh, no problem, I think I'm probably running the risk of getting kicked off of the site for standing up to some people who've said some divisive things, we'll see. Usually the one who stands up for what they think is right, pays the price. " the willingness to defend us = love at first written words :eusa_clap:
jessica
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: fluffy jorgen on October 16, 2009, 09:50:11 AM
Post by: fluffy jorgen on October 16, 2009, 09:50:11 AM
Fall inlove in the cyberworld? Don't think so. ;D
Title: Re: Quiet Discrimination
Post by: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 01:23:46 PM
Post by: Alex_C on October 16, 2009, 01:23:46 PM
Haha OK well then that's it no more mystery for me, that's how I am though.
And I was not an Olympic athlete, I was training for the olympics and won nationals a couple of times, got into the world cup finals (top 10 in the world each year) but it takes a lot more money and political clout backing a person than I had to go to the Olympics. It was saddening to learn things work this way, but wow they sure do. Some athletes as good as me and better also didn't get to go, in the smaller sports like pistol shooting that's the way it's run. Now in something like swimming, if you have a talent like Michael Phelps, AND said kid has a powerful father (politically and financially) OR the kid finds a coach with said powers, he's gonna go. And the US does a decent job of producing medals in the larger sports like swimming and running and boxing. If the kid's good but his Dad is poor, some coach/boxing afictionado will pick the kid up, then a richer one will will take on the kid, then one of the major powers in olympic boxing will ..... it's kinda like playing football or basketball. If you're on a team that treats you like dirt, but a good player, some other team will offer to take you. And you go. But in something like olympic pistol, there's ONE team, and unless I wanted to defect to another country, that's it. And those with money and clout go. And then they get 15th or 23rd or 42nd ...... and the US continues to not win Olympic medals in pistol.
And I was not an Olympic athlete, I was training for the olympics and won nationals a couple of times, got into the world cup finals (top 10 in the world each year) but it takes a lot more money and political clout backing a person than I had to go to the Olympics. It was saddening to learn things work this way, but wow they sure do. Some athletes as good as me and better also didn't get to go, in the smaller sports like pistol shooting that's the way it's run. Now in something like swimming, if you have a talent like Michael Phelps, AND said kid has a powerful father (politically and financially) OR the kid finds a coach with said powers, he's gonna go. And the US does a decent job of producing medals in the larger sports like swimming and running and boxing. If the kid's good but his Dad is poor, some coach/boxing afictionado will pick the kid up, then a richer one will will take on the kid, then one of the major powers in olympic boxing will ..... it's kinda like playing football or basketball. If you're on a team that treats you like dirt, but a good player, some other team will offer to take you. And you go. But in something like olympic pistol, there's ONE team, and unless I wanted to defect to another country, that's it. And those with money and clout go. And then they get 15th or 23rd or 42nd ...... and the US continues to not win Olympic medals in pistol.