Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Megan on October 15, 2009, 12:27:01 AM Return to Full Version
Title: FFS without transistion
Post by: Megan on October 15, 2009, 12:27:01 AM
Post by: Megan on October 15, 2009, 12:27:01 AM
Do you think it's a workable idea to get FFS, but not becoming a woman, but just more androgynous. But not going so far that it can strictly be female... like Jessica Alba.
Well he didn't get it done, but his face is very feminine in my opinion; Bill Kaulitz
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/SARAELENA_2007/BillKaulitz8.jpg (http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/SARAELENA_2007/BillKaulitz8.jpg)
Well he didn't get it done, but his face is very feminine in my opinion; Bill Kaulitz
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/SARAELENA_2007/BillKaulitz8.jpg (http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/SARAELENA_2007/BillKaulitz8.jpg)
Title: Re: FFS without transistion
Post by: shanetastic on October 15, 2009, 12:36:25 AM
Post by: shanetastic on October 15, 2009, 12:36:25 AM
I don't see why not.
Ultimately it's your money and I don't think people are going to stop you from changing things that you don't like about yourself. It's not really regulated like SRS, so as long as you had the money to spend it wouldn't be a problem. . . at least I think.
Ultimately it's your money and I don't think people are going to stop you from changing things that you don't like about yourself. It's not really regulated like SRS, so as long as you had the money to spend it wouldn't be a problem. . . at least I think.
Title: Re: FFS without transistion
Post by: Hannah on October 15, 2009, 04:15:41 AM
Post by: Hannah on October 15, 2009, 04:15:41 AM
wait, what? Is/Was the person in that picture named bill? If so I want the name of that surgeon.
I wouldn't think there would be any reason to deny one feminising surgery on the face when they aren't transitioning. They don't make gg see a therapist first when they want to get their vaginas operated on to be more in line with society's idea of how vulvas look, and that's a heck of lot of a bigger psychological can of worms than just getting a nose job.
I wouldn't think there would be any reason to deny one feminising surgery on the face when they aren't transitioning. They don't make gg see a therapist first when they want to get their vaginas operated on to be more in line with society's idea of how vulvas look, and that's a heck of lot of a bigger psychological can of worms than just getting a nose job.
Title: Re: FFS without transistion
Post by: Megan on October 15, 2009, 01:53:21 PM
Post by: Megan on October 15, 2009, 01:53:21 PM
Quote from: Becca on October 15, 2009, 04:15:41 AM
wait, what? Is/Was the person in that picture named bill? If so I want the name of that surgeon.
I wouldn't think there would be any reason to deny one feminising surgery on the face when they aren't transitioning. They don't make gg see a therapist first when they want to get their vaginas operated on to be more in line with society's idea of how vulvas look, and that's a heck of lot of a bigger psychological can of worms than just getting a nose job.
It is his name, he doesn't have any surgeries..... he is a German lead rock singer for Tokio Hotel. He was born looking like that, but it's not because he doesn't have enough testosterone he's 6'2.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JzhQFW9uzN4/SaLkgILUGHI/AAAAAAAAADQ/ACFxSVFasm8/S660/bill-kaulitz.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JzhQFW9uzN4/SaLkgILUGHI/AAAAAAAAADQ/ACFxSVFasm8/S660/bill-kaulitz.jpg)
http://buzznet-32.vo.llnwd.net/assets/users16/littlemisskaulitz/default/Bill_Kaulitz--large-msg-118988446658.jpg (http://buzznet-32.vo.llnwd.net/assets/users16/littlemisskaulitz/default/Bill_Kaulitz--large-msg-118988446658.jpg)
Title: Re: FFS without transistion
Post by: Nicky on October 18, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
Post by: Nicky on October 18, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
What would be your reasons Megan?
I think it would be a transition of sorts. Transition is not a linear thing and does not have to have any particular end point.
If you feel you need to do it I say go for it!
I think it would be a transition of sorts. Transition is not a linear thing and does not have to have any particular end point.
If you feel you need to do it I say go for it!
Title: Re: FFS without transistion
Post by: dominik on October 24, 2009, 06:27:37 AM
Post by: dominik on October 24, 2009, 06:27:37 AM
Hi there, haven't been here for a while, so Hi...
Bill from Tokyo Hotel is still quite young, and testosterone changes your face well beyond the age where you stop to grow in height.
Remember Boy George?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_K44VqhNa9KA%2FSXpFd1ajjbI%2FAAAAAAAAAkI%2FCV96lhwmcwU%2FS660%2FBOY%2BGEORGE.jpg&hash=ab0eea2c55eb9feb90a50a1db66a553b54d5f42c)
A more adult Boy George:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcelebritynewsflash.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F06%2Fboy-george.jpg&hash=8ac8dc074db4022c380369f3902bc61b20ecf862)
If your masculine face makes you uncomfortable, FFS might make sense but it's damn expensive!
One famous guy who did this without transitioning gender is Pete Burns (though he had a small lip surgery disaster), look the before and after takes, would you believe it?:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsplinteredsunrise.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F02%2Fpete_burns_spinning_you_right_round.jpg&hash=6b2c8812a046c4a2bc90560a42d1a05c902bd55d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.clashmusic.com%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fnode_article_image%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2Fpeteburns.jpg&hash=be580e5f68e58fc4a770070b6fef2f12f1e7405c)
Last but not least, hormones are the ultimate face feminizer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAdzmTD4lIo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAdzmTD4lIo#)
Bill from Tokyo Hotel is still quite young, and testosterone changes your face well beyond the age where you stop to grow in height.
Remember Boy George?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_K44VqhNa9KA%2FSXpFd1ajjbI%2FAAAAAAAAAkI%2FCV96lhwmcwU%2FS660%2FBOY%2BGEORGE.jpg&hash=ab0eea2c55eb9feb90a50a1db66a553b54d5f42c)
A more adult Boy George:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcelebritynewsflash.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F06%2Fboy-george.jpg&hash=8ac8dc074db4022c380369f3902bc61b20ecf862)
If your masculine face makes you uncomfortable, FFS might make sense but it's damn expensive!
One famous guy who did this without transitioning gender is Pete Burns (though he had a small lip surgery disaster), look the before and after takes, would you believe it?:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsplinteredsunrise.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F02%2Fpete_burns_spinning_you_right_round.jpg&hash=6b2c8812a046c4a2bc90560a42d1a05c902bd55d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.clashmusic.com%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fnode_article_image%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2Fpeteburns.jpg&hash=be580e5f68e58fc4a770070b6fef2f12f1e7405c)
Last but not least, hormones are the ultimate face feminizer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAdzmTD4lIo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAdzmTD4lIo#)
Title: Re: FFS without transistion
Post by: Renate on October 24, 2009, 06:51:42 AM
Post by: Renate on October 24, 2009, 06:51:42 AM
I'm just concerned about anybody going through a painful and difficult surgery of whatever kind and saying that they want X amount of effect and afterwards they realize that they wanted 2X amount of effect actually.
I think that that's why breast augmentation surgeons kind of push people to have it made a little bigger.
I think that that's why breast augmentation surgeons kind of push people to have it made a little bigger.