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So as a vegetarian of 2 1/2 years, I was wondering if you guys think that vegetarianism can in any way cut down on a trans guys "manliness." After all, in my experience, most of my fellow vegetarians have been lesbians. The last thing I want is to be continually read as a butch lesbian due to my eating habits, but I'm also not willing to give up my diet anytime soon. Thoughts?

(And yes, I'm aware of the "protein craving" that often comes with T. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, though.)

Well I'm a vegetarian and I don't really think it makes me less of a man.either.

There's a general opinion that vegetarians are feminine though as far as I know. But just like what's in your pants, most people don't really know what you don't eat. Nor do they really care for the most part.

First I ever heard of "vegetarianism" having anything to do with gender?

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IMO Animal protein (in the form of red meat) is bad for humans, the human body is better adapted to plant proteins, which the body can process quicker, better and take more nurtients from with less/no toxins or unneeded dangerous animal fat.
I'd say men are generally known to care less about their bodies/weight and health and cater to their taste buds that much is true.  :P

i have several male friends who are vegetarian or vegan, mostly members of the punk/alt community. no one seems to question their masculinity. do what feels right to you.

I can only think of one vegetarian that I know and he was probably the best looking guy I went to school with. We did take the piss out of him when he ate a cucumber sandwich though. But yeah he was about 6'2", really athletic and did I mention he was hot?

I know at least 5 guys who are vegetarians. I actually know more male vegetarians than female.

nah
vegetarianism is plenty manly.

I've been a vegetarian for 1 year, 8 months now and have considered going vegan.  I've never felt like being veg is a feminine thing or having anything to do with gender really.  I will admit that I've known more female vegetarians than males, but I know more females in general anyway. 

I don't think people would judge you that much on what you do or do not eat to be honest. Out of everyone I know there are more straight female vegetarians that lesbians. However I have met a few male vegetarians.

Plus when you pass 100% no one will question what you eat.

Jay

Quote from: Jay on January 11, 2010, 03:12:19 AM
Out of everyone I know there are more straight female vegetarians that lesbians.

Vegetarians don't eat tuna.

Quote from: Jay on January 11, 2010, 03:12:19 AMPlus when you pass 100% no one will question what you eat.

Hell, they probably don't care now.

I'm 'forced vegetarian' ....my girlfriend is vegetarian and thus I have to be to avoid a huge fight over how I "like to kill animals for my own pleasure".

I do know of at least one instance where someone did switch pronouns with me once I said I was vegetarian, went from "he" to "she" as soon as that bit of info came out.

Quote from: SilverFang on January 11, 2010, 03:49:17 AM
Vegetarians don't eat tuna.

lol

Quote from: Christian >.> on January 11, 2010, 03:39:03 PM
I'm 'forced vegetarian' ....my girlfriend is vegetarian and thus I have to be to avoid a huge fight over how I "like to kill animals for my own pleasure".

Oh dear. That's a little.. Well, I don't wanna make you mad by saying anything bad about your girlfriend. But I've never pressured anyone into being vegetarian. If they're considering it, yeah I'll give them information about it -- or even if they're not really considering it but are just curious. But I don't want people to try to bully me into eating meat, so I'm not gonna bully them into not eating it.

Sorry if that came off rant-ish.

Quote from: Christian >.> on January 11, 2010, 03:39:03 PMI do know of at least one instance where someone did switch pronouns with me once I said I was vegetarian, went from "he" to "she" as soon as that bit of info came out.

Ah. That's exactly what I'm worried about. That someone's gonna find out I'm vegetarian (lol, I made it sound like I'm closeted about it or something) and be like "OH so she's just butch, not a dude..."

Quote from: Brynn on January 12, 2010, 05:26:44 PM
Oh dear. That's a little.. Well, I don't wanna make you mad by saying anything bad about your girlfriend. But I've never pressured anyone into being vegetarian. If they're considering it, yeah I'll give them information about it -- or even if they're not really considering it but are just curious. But I don't want people to try to bully me into eating meat, so I'm not gonna bully them into not eating it.

In her (slight) defense...she's never told me I had to not eat meat. In fact she says up and down I shouldn't eat vegetarian just to do it for her...but actually talking about eating it makes her queasy. She had a...bad experience as a child at a farm that kinda traumatized her. So choosing to be vegetarian is a preventative measure and saves me a lot of comforting and meals alone.

Quote from: Greg on January 10, 2010, 06:14:47 PM
I can only think of one vegetarian that I know and he was probably the best looking guy I went to school with. We did take the piss out of him when he ate a cucumber sandwich though. But yeah he was about 6'2", really athletic and did I mention he was hot?

Hey! Cucumber sandwiches are delicious. I'm not even a vegetarian and I like them.

Quote from: Lachlann on January 12, 2010, 11:01:54 PM
Hey! Cucumber sandwiches are delicious. I'm not even a vegetarian and I like them.

Eh. Can't say I've ever had one, but I'm not much of a fan of salad-on-a-bun-type vegetarian food. I want my food to taste like REAL food, and I find that's much easier when the food's actually warm.

Quote from: Brynn on January 13, 2010, 01:25:49 AM
Eh. Can't say I've ever had one, but I'm not much of a fan of salad-on-a-bun-type vegetarian food. I want my food to taste like REAL food, and I find that's much easier when the food's actually warm.

How is it not real food? ;)

Cucumber sandwiches aren't exactly vegetarian food, they're just a sandwich that a vegetarian might eat.

Quote from: Lachlann on January 13, 2010, 10:50:18 AM
How is it not real food? ;)

Cucumber sandwiches aren't exactly vegetarian food, they're just a sandwich that a vegetarian might eat.

So what's a "vegetarian" food then?  I ate faux meats before turning veg.  Is there any food that only vegs eat?  I honestly don't know the answer to this question.  Would tofu count?

I prefer hot meals over cold too, but I tend to eat more "salad-on-a-bun" food.  But that's just because I'm lazy and don't like cooking lol.

Quote from: Adio on January 13, 2010, 03:00:33 PM
So what's a "vegetarian" food then?  I ate faux meats before turning veg.  Is there any food that only vegs eat?  I honestly don't know the answer to this question.  Would tofu count?

I prefer hot meals over cold too, but I tend to eat more "salad-on-a-bun" food.  But that's just because I'm lazy and don't like cooking lol.

I don't think there's anything you can narrow down to 'vegetarian' food, aside from maybe the faux meat like you said. Food is food. A cucumber is just as much as a food as steak is.

Main Entry: 2vegetarian
Function: adjective
Date: 1847
1 : of or relating to vegetarians
2 : consisting wholly of vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, and sometimes eggs or dairy products <a vegetarian diet>

Taken from the Merriam-Webster website. ;) So any food that those standards apply to would be considered "vegetarian."

Quote from: Brynn on January 13, 2010, 04:24:08 PM
Taken from the Merriam-Webster website. ;) So any food that those standards apply to would be considered "vegetarian."

Not exclusively.

Quote from: SilverFang on January 13, 2010, 04:25:47 PM
Not exclusively.

I'm guessing you don't have anything else to add on the subject of vegetarianism + FtM then.

Vegetarian really means: I can eat whatever I want, but no matter what I eat, I'm better than you are.  Cockpunch city.

Quote from: Brynn on January 13, 2010, 04:32:24 PM
I'm guessing you don't have anything else to add on the subject of vegetarianism + FtM then.

Nope, and I doubt anyone else does either.

Well not me, because I've only had my diet regulated by such jerkwads.  You can eat whatever you want.  So can I.  End of discussion.

Tofu doesn't count. I ate and liked tofu long before I started eating quasi-meat even.

I have a male friend who is a veggie. And he's not gay, or punk or anything. He's your average studious, destined to become a great part of international relations and politics, kid. And I figure, hey, if one guy can get away with it, why can't others?