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Title: Do any of you guys...
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 19, 2010, 09:46:11 PM
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 19, 2010, 09:46:11 PM
Like to dress in drag?(female clothing)...
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Osiris on January 19, 2010, 09:48:36 PM
Post by: Osiris on January 19, 2010, 09:48:36 PM
I would do it more if I didn't look like such a girl. lol
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 19, 2010, 09:53:09 PM
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 19, 2010, 09:53:09 PM
Quote from: Osiris on January 19, 2010, 09:48:36 PM
I would do it more if I didn't look like such a girl. lol
When I do I look like a girl too!
Lol
My friend told me, the other day that I did, that I was hot/cute/sexy/had a nice body... I was all embarassed cause I was actually showing my body! :0 Scary stories lol.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Chamillion on January 19, 2010, 09:54:04 PM
Post by: Chamillion on January 19, 2010, 09:54:04 PM
Nah. I prefer form fitting/somewhat tight clothes over the baggy look, but female clothes? Hell no haha.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Adam on January 19, 2010, 10:03:18 PM
Post by: Adam on January 19, 2010, 10:03:18 PM
No, I'm really not into women's clothing and I won't wear them for any reason. No one can force me to wear them. Besides, women's clothing is way to inconvenient if you ask me.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Elijah3291 on January 19, 2010, 10:28:45 PM
Post by: Elijah3291 on January 19, 2010, 10:28:45 PM
I think that once I am on T and actually pass, I may become a bit more feminine.. cause I'm a feminine guy, I just dont embrace that side of me cause it makes me look like a girl.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Ryuu on January 19, 2010, 11:19:13 PM
Post by: Ryuu on January 19, 2010, 11:19:13 PM
Same as Elijah. I think that if I'd been born with the right parts, I'd probably crossdress. xD Hey, I did it for most of my life on and off!
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 19, 2010, 11:46:18 PM
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 19, 2010, 11:46:18 PM
Elijah: Im pretty feminine also...
Aaron: Yeah I think most of us have lol...
Aaron: Yeah I think most of us have lol...
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Silver on January 20, 2010, 01:11:24 AM
Post by: Silver on January 20, 2010, 01:11:24 AM
Occasionally I get curious and notice I've got a dress or something hidden in the back of my closet (that place is a wreck, I don't know half the stuff in there.) So I try it on, and I usually feel rather like I'm in drag. It's a bit odd. But outside? No way. Not only does it make me incredibly uncomfortable to look feminine, but I have to second female clothes being impractical. I like lifting my arms, moving my legs well enough to run, having pockets and being able to bend over without showing cleavage or. . . plumber's cleavage. I really don't think I could seriously go back to that.
Maybe if I looked male I would dress in drag on Halloween, but that's a different story.
Maybe if I looked male I would dress in drag on Halloween, but that's a different story.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Alessandro on January 20, 2010, 04:22:24 AM
Post by: Alessandro on January 20, 2010, 04:22:24 AM
Quote from: Elijah on January 19, 2010, 10:28:45 PM
I think that once I am on T and actually pass, I may become a bit more feminine.. cause I'm a feminine guy, I just dont embrace that side of me cause it makes me look like a girl.
Agreed. Except I'd never do proper drag, like skirts and heels and bras because I never felt so good in that stuff. But I would like to be able to wear quirky emo type tight tops/jeans without having bumps in the way. I'm also slightly fond of guyliner. But until I pass 100% just no!!
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Aussie Jay on January 20, 2010, 05:12:48 AM
Post by: Aussie Jay on January 20, 2010, 05:12:48 AM
No offence to you guys who like it/can pull it off much respect to do what you like - but there is no way on God's green earth I would wear women's clothes... I can't remember ever shopping in that department by choice... Plus I look like a guy, trying to look like a girl who's trying to not look like a guy... If that makes sense? :D
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Teknoir on January 20, 2010, 05:24:22 AM
Post by: Teknoir on January 20, 2010, 05:24:22 AM
No, I just don't like womens clothing. It doesn't fit my taste.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: spacial on January 20, 2010, 05:33:17 AM
Post by: spacial on January 20, 2010, 05:33:17 AM
Even though she has quite large breasts, my wife says she is sometimes mistaken for a male. She has a very commanding face which kinda takes control, so I suppose people look at her face and stop.
She's generally quite pleased, though pretends to find it amusing.
She's generally quite pleased, though pretends to find it amusing.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Adio on January 20, 2010, 05:53:38 AM
Post by: Adio on January 20, 2010, 05:53:38 AM
I've been waiting for/trying to muster up the courage to post a thread about this. Yes, I do. I wondered if I were the only one. It's only rarely though and I haven't dressed fully (wig, makeup, etc). The most I've worn is a skirt and panties. So I guess drag isn't quite the name for it. I don't want to look female though or be treated like one while dressed. My partner knows and supports me so..I dunno. Haven't really told anyone else about it because I'm afraid they'll think I'm not really trans or something like that. :-\
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 20, 2010, 11:00:49 AM
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 20, 2010, 11:00:49 AM
Quote from: Adio on January 20, 2010, 05:53:38 AM
I've been waiting for/trying to muster up the courage to post a thread about this. Yes, I do. I wondered if I were the only one. It's only rarely though and I haven't dressed fully (wig, makeup, etc). The most I've worn is a skirt and panties. So I guess drag isn't quite the name for it. I don't want to look female though or be treated like one while dressed. My partner knows and supports me so..I dunno. Haven't really told anyone else about it because I'm afraid they'll think I'm not really trans or something like that. :-\
Yeah, I was wondering if I was the only one. I don't do it often, trust me its rare, but I don't mind it much.
But hey, everyone has their own thing, no one should judge you.
Its weird, I didn't feel I got treated any different except by my friend.
Its good that you have an understanding and supporting partner.
:]
Dressing in drag doesn't make you any less trans... I posted a thread a while back where I mentioned Gender Expression IS NOT Gender Identity. You don't have to be masculine to feel you should've been born male. There are very femme bioguys out there: guys that wear girl pants, or girl shirts, gay guys that like to be hairless, guys that dress in drag, guys that don't like sports, guys that don't like getting dirty... what you do or like doesn't determine if your trans, how you feel does. Ever since I was a child, I knew I was born into the wrong body, something didn't match. But that didn't mean I had to be all manly, and macho, and masculine. Yeah I have masculine habits and such, but I don't force myself to(or don't feel I have to) be the "typical guy".
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Wolf Man on January 20, 2010, 12:14:24 PM
Post by: Wolf Man on January 20, 2010, 12:14:24 PM
It may not make me less trans, but I am a man. It just looks all wrong.
I'm sure a few of us had an 8th grade graduation. Well, at mine I was forced to have my nails done, wear a dress, wear heels, wear makeup and fix up my hair. My friend Jim, a gay man I've known since then, is the most frank person you'll ever meet. He tells it how it is and doesn't hold back. Even if it makes you cry. He told me I looked like a male (he had meant like an MTF) prostitute. Yeah.
Female clothes on me are just wrong.
I'm sure a few of us had an 8th grade graduation. Well, at mine I was forced to have my nails done, wear a dress, wear heels, wear makeup and fix up my hair. My friend Jim, a gay man I've known since then, is the most frank person you'll ever meet. He tells it how it is and doesn't hold back. Even if it makes you cry. He told me I looked like a male (he had meant like an MTF) prostitute. Yeah.
Female clothes on me are just wrong.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: austin86 on January 20, 2010, 12:19:37 PM
Post by: austin86 on January 20, 2010, 12:19:37 PM
theres no way i would ever put a female article of clothing on again. even if womens socks do fit me better i will wear mens. and when i first started binding i wore a sports bra but that made me feel so girly i quickly ordered a binder and tossed the bras. when i realized i was trans one of the first things i did was throw all my girl clothes in the garbage. even pre trans when i was a girl i hated womens clothes.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Twin Hammer Tommy on January 20, 2010, 12:29:04 PM
Post by: Twin Hammer Tommy on January 20, 2010, 12:29:04 PM
No way, not willingly.
The last time I wore a dress was in the summer of 2001, long long before I even considered that I was trans. A friend of mine had bought all sorts of clothes she couldn't fit into, and since I'd had lost weight and could, she wanted me to model them. I agreed, and let her do me all up in makeup. This was something I never ever did, and so I figured, hey, why not just try it out?
Afterwards, when washing the makeup off in the bathroom mirror, I looked at myself and realized I looked like a guy in drag. It was startling, and after that I would never agree to anything of the sort. (that was also the point where I began to suspect I actually was a guy in drag, it's a shame so many years of denial followed)
The last time I wore a dress was in the summer of 2001, long long before I even considered that I was trans. A friend of mine had bought all sorts of clothes she couldn't fit into, and since I'd had lost weight and could, she wanted me to model them. I agreed, and let her do me all up in makeup. This was something I never ever did, and so I figured, hey, why not just try it out?
Afterwards, when washing the makeup off in the bathroom mirror, I looked at myself and realized I looked like a guy in drag. It was startling, and after that I would never agree to anything of the sort. (that was also the point where I began to suspect I actually was a guy in drag, it's a shame so many years of denial followed)
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Shadowlyc on January 20, 2010, 12:32:56 PM
Post by: Shadowlyc on January 20, 2010, 12:32:56 PM
I'm forced to dress in drag because I have family that doesn't understand and otherwise pick on me if I don't "dress proper". >.>; But even so, I still resist. It's just not me. :/
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Eli on January 20, 2010, 11:25:50 PM
Post by: Eli on January 20, 2010, 11:25:50 PM
Finally, others who refer to girl's clothing as dressing in drag as well! But to answer the question; I do indeed dress in drag on rare occasions.
Once in a blue moon I get the urge to wear one of my handmade costume dresses, aside from that I've dressed "girly" for a family function... like twice in 2009. :-\
I'm kind of into practical fashion - I'm fond of a full short skirt/dress line, but dressing feminine right now tends to just raise questions/confusion/false hope for some of my family members, so I try not to make life harder on them and just stick to dressing like one gender.
Once in a blue moon I get the urge to wear one of my handmade costume dresses, aside from that I've dressed "girly" for a family function... like twice in 2009. :-\
I'm kind of into practical fashion - I'm fond of a full short skirt/dress line, but dressing feminine right now tends to just raise questions/confusion/false hope for some of my family members, so I try not to make life harder on them and just stick to dressing like one gender.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: colormyworld on January 21, 2010, 12:20:18 AM
Post by: colormyworld on January 21, 2010, 12:20:18 AM
technically yes, I do dress in drag, but I don't dress in drag to feel feminine or anything, they're just my regular clothes that happen to consist of 'girl' clothes and 'guy' clothes mixed together. Nothing I wear is very girly though, I kind of give off the 'tomboy' vibe as of now... which I guess is ok for now as I'm still living as a 'chick' at the moment...
I did however attempt to wear leggings for my dance class (hey, it's an easy 3 credits) 'cause my sweats were too baggy and falling off me, heh. Seeing myself in that made me want to cry though, so that will not be happening again! That's why they put drawstrings on sweats! That made me feel like I was in drag!
The ultimate goal though, would be able to dress in drag if I wanted to for halloween or something like that and still look like a GUY. That would be amazing!!
I did however attempt to wear leggings for my dance class (hey, it's an easy 3 credits) 'cause my sweats were too baggy and falling off me, heh. Seeing myself in that made me want to cry though, so that will not be happening again! That's why they put drawstrings on sweats! That made me feel like I was in drag!
The ultimate goal though, would be able to dress in drag if I wanted to for halloween or something like that and still look like a GUY. That would be amazing!!
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Adio on January 21, 2010, 06:11:46 AM
Post by: Adio on January 21, 2010, 06:11:46 AM
Quote from: ccc on January 20, 2010, 11:00:49 AM
Yeah, I was wondering if I was the only one. I don't do it often, trust me its rare, but I don't mind it much.
But hey, everyone has their own thing, no one should judge you.
Its weird, I didn't feel I got treated any different except by my friend.
Its good that you have an understanding and supporting partner.
:]
Dressing in drag doesn't make you any less trans... I posted a thread a while back where I mentioned Gender Expression IS NOT Gender Identity. You don't have to be masculine to feel you should've been born male. There are very femme bioguys out there: guys that wear girl pants, or girl shirts, gay guys that like to be hairless, guys that dress in drag, guys that don't like sports, guys that don't like getting dirty... what you do or like doesn't determine if your trans, how you feel does. Ever since I was a child, I knew I was born into the wrong body, something didn't match. But that didn't mean I had to be all manly, and macho, and masculine. Yeah I have masculine habits and such, but I don't force myself to(or don't feel I have to) be the "typical guy".
Yeah, it's rare for me too. Especially since I lost weight and the skirt I was wearing no longer fits at all. Sorry your friend treated you differently. What did they do when they found out, if you don't mind my asking?
I think that's a very interesting concept--gender identity and gender expression being separate. I never thought about it before but it certainly makes sense, for the reasons you've already stated. I'm a somewhat feminine guy, but that isn't the reason I crossdress. Without being explicit, I only do it inside the bedroom (with or without my partner). I guess that's why I feel out of place somewhat. It's not about gender expression for me; it's about having "fun."
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: natures.grace on January 21, 2010, 03:14:03 PM
Post by: natures.grace on January 21, 2010, 03:14:03 PM
I have too when i go out but other then that I have only one guy shirt. I'm attempting to get boxers. I'm just starting out so i'm stuck with female cloths. Adrianna's been pawing through my female clothes so she can have em! The joys of our Trans relationship whoo
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 21, 2010, 05:13:12 PM
Post by: notyouraverageguy on January 21, 2010, 05:13:12 PM
Quote from: Adio on January 21, 2010, 06:11:46 AM
Sorry your friend treated you differently. What did they do when they found out, if you don't mind my asking?
I think that's a very interesting concept--gender identity and gender expression being separate. I never thought about it before but it certainly makes sense, for the reasons you've already stated. I'm a somewhat feminine guy, but that isn't the reason I crossdress. Without being explicit, I only do it inside the bedroom (with or without my partner). I guess that's why I feel out of place somewhat. It's not about gender expression for me; it's about having "fun."
Well thing is she was just curious to see me dress that way, so I did it for her lol... it was fun, and she just kept complementing me and my body.
Lol I see, yeah everyone has their own thing.
;-p
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Walter on January 22, 2010, 09:17:16 AM
Post by: Walter on January 22, 2010, 09:17:16 AM
Yeah. I sometimes wear Female underclothes. Willingly
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Jamie-o on January 24, 2010, 07:25:10 AM
Post by: Jamie-o on January 24, 2010, 07:25:10 AM
I haven't worn a dress since I was 12, except in the occasional theatrical production.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Seth88 on January 24, 2010, 11:08:49 AM
Post by: Seth88 on January 24, 2010, 11:08:49 AM
I only wear female clothes when the occasion requires it. I had a PhD interview last week and my female housemates dragged me out shopping and stuffed me into a women's suite. Although I felt like I was in drag (which is the truth) I felt the occasion required it. I'm only out to a few people, not including my housemates, so I didn't say anything, just got on with it. I was uncomfortable the entire day of the interviews, but there was nothing else I felt I could other than grin and bare it for the day.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: insanitylives on January 24, 2010, 07:44:13 PM
Post by: insanitylives on January 24, 2010, 07:44:13 PM
Define 'willingly'
For any formal-ish situation, I have to wear womens clothes(read:skirt/dress). Apparently 'tomboy' isn't appropriate even if you're wearing nice pants.
There's a few I could get out of, but I WANT to go to (seriously school dances are fun, I don't mind being in girls clothes for that)
Meh, on occasion it's fun... BUT NO HEELS.
For any formal-ish situation, I have to wear womens clothes(read:skirt/dress). Apparently 'tomboy' isn't appropriate even if you're wearing nice pants.
There's a few I could get out of, but I WANT to go to (seriously school dances are fun, I don't mind being in girls clothes for that)
Meh, on occasion it's fun... BUT NO HEELS.
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Al James on January 24, 2010, 08:16:35 PM
Post by: Al James on January 24, 2010, 08:16:35 PM
Having to wear any kind of female clothes is my worst nightmare-no offence intended to anyone but i would never ever call it fun. Didn't go to my school dance cos they said i had to wear a dress and luckily been in jobs ever since where its not an issue. My one nasty thought while i was growing up was that if i died and mum chose the outfit i was buried/cremated in i could end up spending eternity in a dress
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: DRAIN on January 24, 2010, 09:10:44 PM
Post by: DRAIN on January 24, 2010, 09:10:44 PM
this topic has made me think....
i don't consider any of the clothing i have as "female" though i wear pants from the women's department. the more feminine clothing i have (from a job interview) makes me incredibly uncomfortable to wear, to the point i dread the possibility of having to wear it again. even some of my men's shirts that hug my curves make me sortof self conscious.
that said, i enjoy cute underwear, heels, nail polish, sometimes makeup. it bugs me that these things make me look more girly, but it's still fun to play around with sometimes. like hell you'd catch me out of the house with any of it these days though ::)
i don't consider any of the clothing i have as "female" though i wear pants from the women's department. the more feminine clothing i have (from a job interview) makes me incredibly uncomfortable to wear, to the point i dread the possibility of having to wear it again. even some of my men's shirts that hug my curves make me sortof self conscious.
that said, i enjoy cute underwear, heels, nail polish, sometimes makeup. it bugs me that these things make me look more girly, but it's still fun to play around with sometimes. like hell you'd catch me out of the house with any of it these days though ::)
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: colormyworld on January 25, 2010, 12:46:09 AM
Post by: colormyworld on January 25, 2010, 12:46:09 AM
I enjoy nailpolish, too. It may be more of a girly thing to do, but I don't care! heh I almost always have some funky bright color of nailpolish, so it's not exactly frilly and feminine. It's more funky and out of the box, and I feel it fits me!
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: thestory on January 25, 2010, 01:03:03 AM
Post by: thestory on January 25, 2010, 01:03:03 AM
Like some others here I only dress in drag when I'm out of clean guy clothes. I'm usually not happy about it. Since I still live with my parents and they don't quite see eye to eye on the trans issue they try to talk me into wearing something girly now and then. But I don't, so I'm not ever forced into it.
Speaking of clothes. I need to expand my wardrobe. I only have a few shirts for the winter and a couple jeans that I always forget to wash. :/
Speaking of clothes. I need to expand my wardrobe. I only have a few shirts for the winter and a couple jeans that I always forget to wash. :/
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Jamie-o on January 25, 2010, 06:48:42 AM
Post by: Jamie-o on January 25, 2010, 06:48:42 AM
Quote from: DRAIN on January 24, 2010, 09:10:44 PM
the more feminine clothing i have (from a job interview) makes me incredibly uncomfortable to wear, to the point i dread the possibility of having to wear it again.
You know, that's one of the things I love most about transitioning. In my girl days I, too, always dreaded dress-up occasions because I always had to make the choice of feeling out of place, or looking out of place. (Dress in drag, or look like a butch lesbian trying to make a point? Hmmm. Decisions decisions. ::) ) It was especially bad for occasions like weddings or funerals where you really don't want to look as if you are trying to draw attention to yourself.
But now I really enjoy dressing up. I wish I had more opportunities to do so. For the first time in my life I'm becoming something of a clothes horse! :D
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Al James on January 25, 2010, 02:05:51 PM
Post by: Al James on January 25, 2010, 02:05:51 PM
I KNOW that once I've had top surgery i am going to become a designer addict. At the minute theres no point cos the clothes don't sit right but o my god am i going on a spending spree once its been done
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: jonjon on January 25, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Post by: jonjon on January 25, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Quote from: Osiris on January 19, 2010, 09:48:36 PM
I would do it more if I didn't look like such a girl. lol
This. I dont know why... it appeals to me for some reason >_>
Title: Re: Do any of you guys...
Post by: Evan on January 25, 2010, 09:43:07 PM
Post by: Evan on January 25, 2010, 09:43:07 PM
Quote from: colormyworld on January 21, 2010, 12:20:18 AM
The ultimate goal though, would be able to dress in drag if I wanted to for halloween or something like that and still look like a GUY. That would be amazing!!
This is totally what I'm planning for Halloween this year.. Kind of way ahead of time, but I can't shake the image of dressing in a skimpy girls costume with a full beard out of my head. ;D