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Global warming ,it is always raining here,because of the increased water in the atmosphere.because of the polar ice caps melting.Endless war (the war of ideals)not about territory. Economic collapse looming.The energy crisis (yeah, we are using more oil than we are finding).famine (yeah,global warming will destroy the crop yeilds) .Rising sea levels will put many under water.Europe is going to go into an "ice age" because of the  shutdown of the oceanic "conveyer belt that brings warm water from the equator to the north.When all this comes down on us i will not be trying to match a pair of pumps with my favorite dress.There will be war over water and food

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That being said, no, of course I don't trust "my" government.

Government likes to create panic among people by blowing things out of proportion.  During the ensuing panic they can do things they otherwise could not under the "normal" rules.  See: the Iraq war, bailouts, etc.

Some of those things you list may be just that.  Keep this in mind and don't worry so much.  That's not to say a contingency plan isn't a good idea, but don't take everything you listed as a given.

There are two quotes I love.

"I love my country, but fear my government".

"Don't steal!  The government hates the competition"

Sorry all,
The world ended in 2000 due to the bug. We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set.

Now how to disprove that statement? :laugh: :laugh:

Cindy

Quote from: Janet Lynn on March 13, 2010, 11:44:50 PM
There are two quotes I love.

"I love my country, but fear my government".

Janet that quote it reminded me of a song called goodbye america from W.A.S.P. it is close to one in the song.  "I love my country, but scared to death of its goverenment" 


The fact is that they have been crying about global warming and oil shortage for a while and have the technolgy to prevent most of the problems.  I think they are just scaring everyone.  crops can be grown inside greenhouse with central air as long as it rains you got water.  The war over religion has been going on since the crusades it never really stopped.  Man kind has lived through ice ages with the animals we eat and without heaters or electric.  there is other ways to make energy then by burning oil, with solar, wind ,water, and nuclear power.   sea level rising move away from the beaches but if an ice age happens the water will drop not rise.  I would be more worried about yellowstone erupting or a comet hitting the earth then of global warming at least there is something that is being worked on for that problem. 

The biggest problem is none of those things although many of them are indirectly linked to it.

The biggest problem, in my opinion, is the runaway growth of human population.

Until we master space we have here a fixed alocation of resources and at present we are using them up faster than nature can replenish them.

All these schemes for growing stuff in greenhouses and all of the other solutions simply won't work if you don't have alternative energy supplies online and ready for the day when the oil runs out, because for example, how do you run an air cooling plant with no electricity...

Trouble is no one will really start to work on them whilst there is still vast easy money to make from diminishing supplies of oil, and with the demand growing that means massive price hikes, which in turn means famines and war on a possibly species ending thermonuclear basis.

In some ways a global disaster on a previously unseen scale like a rapid and massive rise in sea level, or a pandemic just might do the job and save us from ourselves. But the trouble with relying on nature to do the cull is that she is horribly indiscriminate. So many will die in terrible and undeserved suffering.

All of which could be avoided if, as a species, we took sensible steps to limit the size of our own populations.

In electing for effective sterility maybe us postops are already doing our bit to help ;)

The book "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton, though a work of fiction, is very enlightening on the subject of global warming and the way that governments use fear as a method of controlling the masses in general. Worth reading.

The world is going to end in 2012 anyway, I saw it in a movie. I may not be trying to match pumps to my favorite dress, but I probably will be polishing my nails. There's something very zen about polishing ones nails that seems to put government crises into proper perspective.

Hi Cindy

Quote from: CindyJames on March 14, 2010, 03:14:01 AM
Sorry all,
The world ended in 2000 due to the bug. We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set.

Now how to disprove that statement? :laugh: :laugh:

Cindy

Easily done my girl

The world ended in 2000 due to the bug.  Which means everyone died.  But I am still alive therefore "The world ended in 2000 due to the bug" is FALSE

We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set, Which means everyone uses MicroSoft.  But I use a Linux Operating System (Fedora), therefore "We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set" is FALSE

Since both statements are FALSE, then your original statement "The world ended in 2000 due to the bug. We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set." IS FALSE.

QED

Kind regards as always
Sarah B

Quote from: CindyJames on March 14, 2010, 03:14:01 AM
Sorry all,
The world ended in 2000 due to the bug. We now live only as MicroSoft entities in a giant game set.

Now how to disprove that statement? :laugh: :laugh:

Cindy

Let's find out.  Computer, end program.

Quote from: Janet Lynn on March 14, 2010, 05:46:07 AM
Let's find out.  Computer, end program.

BSOD

Ilegal Operation

Sorry - MSENDPRG.DLL caused a stack fault at Address 08def56678

rx=1078888 F=ffe56128 a2=ff67ef68

Press Enter to reboot!

:laugh:

Quote from: rejennyrated on March 14, 2010, 05:58:57 AM
BSOD

Ilegal Operation

Sorry - MSENDPRG.DLL caused a stack fault at Address 08def56678

rx=1078888 F=ffe56128 a2=ff67ef68

Press Enter to reboot!

:laugh:

Actually we might need to reboot Earth 'cause we all humans (=virus) needs to be reprogrammed as Earth quardians  8)

Welcome to our forums, Mr. Gore, I'm glad you finally decided to come out. Once again you've missed your target audience, when we think about the inconvenient truth, the first thing on our minds is estradiol supplies...not advancing glaciers.

Quote from: Kieri on March 13, 2010, 11:32:42 PM
Government likes to create panic among people by blowing things out of proportion.  During the ensuing panic they can do things they otherwise could not under the "normal" rules.  See: the Iraq war, bailouts, etc.

Bingo!! Give the lady a gold star!!

the government (and the news media) love to do that because it equals ratings and cash and so many people are dumb enough to fall victim to the hysteria. It's a sad, sad world that we live in.

Quote from: Laura91 on March 14, 2010, 09:32:27 AM
Bingo!! Give the lady a gold star!!

the government (and the news media) love to do that because it equals ratings and cash and so many people are dumb enough to fall victim to the hysteria. It's a sad, sad world that we live in.

I so agree with the above, I mainly just keep earplugs in and don't listen to the Gov and all their polava.

Of course I do not trust the government. To many backroom deals going on, and too many untruths being told, in spite of election year promises. No regard for the common man.

Reminds me of the who:

"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss"

On your list you gave, you left off some of the things i am most concerned about - the reckless spending of the government, the refusal to search for oil right here in the USA while foreign companies drill right off our coasts (same estimates put our own oil reserves > saudi arabia). Also, it appears to me that oil futures are poised to surge if the economy recovers - anyone remember what $4 gas did to the economy?

And the rush to offshore manufacturing and jobs - without these kind of jobs, the middle class suffers, while the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.

Wait a minute, when did "don't trust the government" turn into "never mind the fact that the entire scientific community is telling us it's a huge deal, global warming is nothing to be concerned about?"

Global warming isn't about the government pulling people's strings. It would exist, happily chomping away at the ozone layer and warming our planet, regardless of whether the government of the United States or any other country paid any attention to it.

We should be happy that our government pays what little attention it does, but make no mistake: the face of the US government on the issue of climate change is ultimately and overwhelmingly a face of inaction and foot-dragging, paying lip service to the problem but little more. The US is far behind Western European nations and many other countries in curbing resource consumption and pollution output.

I'm not saying we're the one big offender, or anything like that - everyone contributes to this problem, and it's often third-world countries and densely populated developing nations like India that spew out the most pollution per capita. China, Russia, Brazil - all the other big countries have major greenhouse gas problems as well. However, the US has the highest per capita municipal waste output of any country (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_mun_was_gen-environment-municipal-waste-generation (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_mun_was_gen-environment-municipal-waste-generation)), the highest per capita carbon dioxide output from fossil fuels of any country, (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_car_dio_fro_fos_fue_200_percap-fossil-fuels-2000-per-capita (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_car_dio_fro_fos_fue_200_percap-fossil-fuels-2000-per-capita)), and we're far and away the largest carbon dioxide emitter in the world (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_car_dio_199-environment-pollution-carbon-dioxide-1999 (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_car_dio_199-environment-pollution-carbon-dioxide-1999)).

It's not enough for us to just fiddle and faddle on the issue, or say that China should go first, or sit around denying the science. The US needs to act, we need to act in a major way, and we need to act now. I may not trust the government to do its job in that respect, but something needs to be done, and fast.

Trans people may have hormones and surgeries and jobs, children, discrimination etc. to worry about, but that does not excuse us from being responsible world citizens.

Lest you're worried about the reliability of my stats, they come from NationMaster (http://www.nationmaster.com/ (http://www.nationmaster.com/)), a site which compiles stats about countries from major institutional sources: United Nations, WTO, World Bank, WHO, CIA World Factbook, etc. It's about as reliable as you can get on these things.

there is only one hope for the humanrace. we can only educate ourselves to a degree. we are limited by the capacity of our minds.
there is only1 hope...we must develop a technology that will improve our minds and bodies.

otherwise we are doomed as a species, and fearfully a planet.

the shadow goverment only exists to control. nothing more. they control simply for control's sake. they are non-intelligient. they do not benefit, even sadistically, from making our world miserable. they do not do it for self-gratification. they are possibly an alien race originating from another planet known as the Reptilians. they are only intelligient in the sense that a computer is intelligient.

Quote from: JillEclipse on March 14, 2010, 07:26:01 PM
they are possibly an alien race originating from another planet known as the Reptilians.

Please tell me you are joking.

No...I said possibly. Its a possibility but I am not completely sure. Reptilian hybrids usually have to wear contacts to hide their orange pupils. They are almost always in high ranking positions like legislators and reporters. Occasionally they can rotate their eyes completely independantly from one another.

I'm sorry but no one will ever convince me that this "reptilian" stuff is a possibility. Common sense would tell you that this is nothing more than delusional madness.

no actually its been proven. on live television a reporters eye moved independantly from one another (not just a little crosseyed, like we're talking 90 degrees here.) another time a particle magically reversed its momentum when approaching the reptilian's aura, which extends a few centimeters around its whole body. also another reporter had the classic reptilian iris. the aura is mostly likely a shield technology intended to protect against some forms of airborne illness. im not sure its effectiveness against smallarms fire.

i already know im slightly skitzophrenic this has nothing to do with it. im wasnt the one who thought of this and it isnt a hallucination. there are videos dedicated to this.

Quote from: JillEclipse on March 14, 2010, 08:09:46 PM
im wasnt the one who thought of this and it isnt a hallucination. there are videos dedicated to this.

I think it was David Icke that came up with this goofy idea. Just because someone posts a video saying that something is true doesn't make it so.

thats why i said it was just a possibilty honey.

Trust the government? Reptilians?  :laugh:

I disagree! The government is obviously run entirely by evil ring-tailed lemurs.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fanimal.discovery.com%2Ftv%2Fa-list%2Fcreature-countdowns%2Fhissy-fits%2Fimages%2Fhissy-ring-tailed-lemur.jpg&hash=d6c80a4a1de25e1356e46719b79a6651666ae010)

Look at their wicked, staring eyes! They HAVE to be in cooperation with the Freemason alien illuminati bomb-throwing Anarchist Marxist Republicans in their sinister plot to bring health care to our country by flouridating the drinking water.

:o

I mean, it just makes so much sense, right?

awww those are too cute! How can you not trust a face like that?



on the other hand, would you buy a used car from this guy??

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ichloe.com%2Fimages%2FThe%2520Lizard%2520Man%25204.jpg&hash=7de9efdf9836ed8483dad4670a6708badc90e1c5)

Actually yes, I probably would, assuming the car's documents checked out. That's Erik Sprague, AKA The Lizardman, a well-known freak show performer who does traditional American sideshow acts such as fire breathing, sword swallowing, Human Dartboard, etc. as well as more modern acts like flesh-hook suspension. He's a smart guy, and pretty highly regarded in the body modification world. Seems like a cool individual, and I can't see any reason not to trust him. I'd probably take the opportunity to compliment him on his subdermal brow ridging.  ;D

If yout trust the governement, no matter which one, your one of two things or both, either a Fool or a Coward, NEVER trust any organized force in control of ALOT of people, Cops, Soilders, Bussiness, Ect.

Quote from: PanoramaIsland on March 14, 2010, 09:29:07 PM
I disagree! The government is obviously run entirely by evil ring-tailed lemurs.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fanimal.discovery.com%2Ftv%2Fa-list%2Fcreature-countdowns%2Fhissy-fits%2Fimages%2Fhissy-ring-tailed-lemur.jpg&hash=d6c80a4a1de25e1356e46719b79a6651666ae010)

Look at their wicked, staring eyes! They HAVE to be in cooperation with the Freemason alien illuminati bomb-throwing Anarchist Marxist Republicans in their sinister plot to bring health care to our country by flouridating the drinking water.

:o

I mean, it just makes so much sense, right?

Its those lemmings they have in their armies that get to me.

Lemmings?

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fit.travisbsd.org%2Flemmings%2Fimg%2Fscreenshots%2Flemmings.png&hash=d43eafb88d796e219454c4627dafe85452934910)

Did someone say Lemmings?

Loved that game for mind numbing play with my kids.

ye those lemmings.

David Icke.

One of Britain's more positive contributions to world debate.

I love these sorts of threads where we can suspend our reality for a while and just have a silly laugh.

I wonder if Raptor Jesus would be counted as one of David Icke's "reptilians," or as part of a separate race of supernatural beings?

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_97CzYpu3yQw%2FSc_RhdyeABI%2FAAAAAAAAAAw%2FmbhA9_vt7tQ%2Fs400%2Fraptor-jesus_02.jpg&hash=1ed5952f43b670de3b785da4dc81b7f1d947df15)

Also, wasn't Icke a footballer or something originally?

...

I really should read some of that guy's works, just for a laugh...

Raptor Jesus... ROFLMAO  :laugh:

The second lemur on the left does resemble Nancy Pelosi.

The U.S. Constitution, when it's in effect and working, is pretty much a model for not trusting government.

Quote from: tekla on March 15, 2010, 03:47:45 AM
The U.S. Constitution, when it's in effect and working, is pretty much a model for not trusting government.

As it would be, given the BS that the colonists had been through.
Of course, it's also (as it was initially put into practice, at least - I don't have enough knowledge to discern beyond that point) a model for not trusting the proletariat, American Indians, women, black people, and various other groups that the Founders deemed inferior, unreliable, not trustworthy, savage, ignorant, as obstacles, or simply as property.

Then again, they also managed not to veer off into puritanical, murderous radicalism (yay, Robespierre!), or to lose the newly formed democratic republic to an emperor (yay, Napoleon!). Mixed blessings, ya know.

I've yet to find anything in life, that, if you look at it and observe it as an adult, is not a 'mixed blessing.'  Perfection is not a human trait, and doesn't seem to be very evident in the rest of the universe either.  The best jobs I've ever had, had aspects to them that sucked.  The worse job's I've ever had, had moments that were pretty good.^*  So granted the basic form of a democratic republic with checks and balances such major ass.  It's just that the other forms suck even more ass.

And, I think that's its all but impossible to even begin to ascertain some of that stuff (both the good and the bad) unless you have had some experience in dealing with, traveling through, and/or living in other places, with different systems.

Far to many people are all "YEAH" or "BOO" without any real understanding of the other options, and what the price of those are.

* - and, here is that real human thing too - there are people who have been in those positions, that would agree with me that parts of the good jobs were bad, and parts of the bad jobs were OK, but totally disagree as to what those parts were.

We are going into a state election on saturday. Bit like a state election in USA but different ;D. They run the state but don't have much influence on the feds.
Suprisingly the incumbent of 12yrs(?) have suddenly found a heap of cash to do the things they haven't done in the last 12 yrs. Odd that. The opposition have found the same amount, if not more without having access to Treasury. Either one is telling the truth, or both are lying. Mmm wonder which?

Why do people want to be politicians? I can see it in the "corrupt" countries, presidents retire, or are couped with billions in hidden accounts. But in the USA, UK or Aus. Why?

Maybe I'm just being naive again.


Cindy

This is one of those Humongously Over-Simplifying Answers, but power and ego have got to have a lot to do with it. Of course, those are elements in activism and other "outsider" political activity as well - and indeed, in any position that involves having influence and being well-known - but being a career politician would seem to be one of the most direct routes to power out there.

Quote from: PanoramaIsland on March 15, 2010, 04:42:54 AM
This is one of those Humongously Over-Simplifying Answers, but power and ego have got to have a lot to do with it. Of course, those are elements in activism and other "outsider" political activity as well - and indeed, in any position that involves having influence and being well-known - but being a career politician would seem to be one of the most direct routes to power out there.

Hi PI,
I suppose this is where I am coming from. Power to what? What is the kick? OK I can understand the corrution bit, yea I can get my kicks with any chick'guy I want, kill people, take drugs etc etc. But what do people like Obama's (your Pres?) get out of it. OK the top person gets money, power and stuff - but what is the thrill? Sorry it is just so removed from my mind set that I cannot understand it.

Thick Cindy

I think I can see the appeal of being the most powerful person on the planet - the power over other people is simply addicting - and in Obama's case, I think he actually wants positive change, although he doesn't seem to be managing to effect especially much of it. He's way too inclined towards bargaining and compromise - it was very refreshing during the campaign, but tear-inducingly frustrating when he started doing it with health reform. He's simply been giving the Republicans too much power all these months.

Quote from: PanoramaIsland on March 15, 2010, 03:14:42 AM


Also, wasn't Icke a footballer or something originally?

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I really should read some of that guy's works, just for a laugh...

Yes, he was. Then a TV sports journalist.

He seems to have gone a bit....unusual.... after that.

But we British do a rather interesting line in eccentrics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke)