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Title: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: Devin87 on March 16, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
Post by: Devin87 on March 16, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
Now let me just start off by saying I'm reform so there are really no official male and female mitzvot for us (besides circumscision of course...), but I still feel a little award doing things that are traditionally male. I would love to wear a kippah to services and there are one or two women at my synagogue who wear obviously women's kippot but for some reason I still feel awkward wearing one while not being out to the congregation (especially since mine most certainly wouldn't be a frilly pink one or a beaded one) even though I KNOW no one would really think much of it. And being the first born of my family and having nothing but sisters, I almost feel like I should participate in the fast of the first born male before Passover. But another part of me would feel weird doing that. I wonder if God took gender identity into consideration when he killed the first born male or if He went solely by plumbing... Ugg.
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: cynthialee on March 16, 2010, 08:45:34 PM
Post by: cynthialee on March 16, 2010, 08:45:34 PM
I am not a Jew of any form. Do not have any idea of the first idea.
But I do know that in some cultures the eldest daughter takes the responsibility of a son if only daughters are born.
I do believe that we have a divine entity that has expectations of us. I think that each of us are supossed to Worship in the fashion we believe in our hearts is Gods will. So Jews must be good Jews and Hindus good Hindus and so forth for all the varios faith systems.
If you are male in soul and eventualy body and you know yourself to be a man are you not a man? And as a man of the Jewish faith are you not suposed to fulfil certain obligations? What are the social and religious obligations that you should fulfil as a Jewish man?
But I do know that in some cultures the eldest daughter takes the responsibility of a son if only daughters are born.
I do believe that we have a divine entity that has expectations of us. I think that each of us are supossed to Worship in the fashion we believe in our hearts is Gods will. So Jews must be good Jews and Hindus good Hindus and so forth for all the varios faith systems.
If you are male in soul and eventualy body and you know yourself to be a man are you not a man? And as a man of the Jewish faith are you not suposed to fulfil certain obligations? What are the social and religious obligations that you should fulfil as a Jewish man?
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: cynthialee on March 17, 2010, 09:33:05 AM
Post by: cynthialee on March 17, 2010, 09:33:05 AM
Hey Devin87,
check this out.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,74179.msg506552.html#new (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,74179.msg506552.html#new)
check this out.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,74179.msg506552.html#new (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,74179.msg506552.html#new)
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: Devin87 on March 30, 2010, 07:35:59 PM
Post by: Devin87 on March 30, 2010, 07:35:59 PM
The rabbi totally made me one of the four sons at the seder tonight. ;D
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: cynthialee on March 30, 2010, 07:44:57 PM
Post by: cynthialee on March 30, 2010, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: Devin87 on March 30, 2010, 07:35:59 PMSounds like religious acceptance to me.
The rabbi totally made me one of the four sons at the seder tonight. ;D
Very cool!
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: Iolanthe on March 30, 2010, 08:16:34 PM
Post by: Iolanthe on March 30, 2010, 08:16:34 PM
Quote from: Devin87 on March 30, 2010, 07:35:59 PMThe Chacham (Wise Son), I presume?
The rabbi totally made me one of the four sons at the seder tonight. ;D
As it happens, I was raised Orthodox, studied Mishnah and Talmud, lived in Israel, speak Hebrew, the whole nine yards. While no longer observant (or even a believer, truth be told) I still find a lot to value in my heritage.
As for your situation, from what I gather, there are many accepting congregations already out there, and more all the time. I'm sure you'll do just fine.
Chag Sa'meach! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.snapstream.com%2Fvb%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fsmile.gif&hash=a83073009d91325381eb0f6e0ccfdcd76a6fd71a)
~Lannie~
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: Devin87 on March 31, 2010, 06:45:25 AM
Post by: Devin87 on March 31, 2010, 06:45:25 AM
Haha. Actually, I was the young son who didn't know how to ask a question. ::) The other three sons were older men.
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: Stephanie.Izann on November 17, 2010, 05:37:38 PM
Post by: Stephanie.Izann on November 17, 2010, 05:37:38 PM
Quote from: Devin87 on March 30, 2010, 07:35:59 PM
The rabbi totally made me one of the four sons at the seder tonight. ;D
That is such a beautiful thing.
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: spenser on March 16, 2011, 09:59:33 AM
Post by: spenser on March 16, 2011, 09:59:33 AM
I know that this hasn't been replied to in a while but I wanted to share my experience. I attend a shul in a small southern community. I attend minyan three times a week, wear a tallit, wrap tefillin, wear a kippa full time. I don't pass 90% of the time but no one bats an eye. I even go to breakfast with the rest of the guys after minyan on weekdays. I have taken an aliyah on both Shabbat and weekdays. Really no problems at all. There is a person that attends Shabbat services and while I have no idea how they identify themselves they have a male name yet wear makeup and female clothes. I haven't seen them be asked to take an honor on the bima and don't know if that is their choice or not. I haven't seen anyone bat an eye towards them. It is really no big deal.
I suspect that the rabbi knows the deal and included you as a son. I don't know the make up of your community so I couldn't say for sure but generally speaking reform communities are pretty liberal. If there is a renewal community near you, you could give that a try too.
Hope all is well for you and Chag Samech Purim!
I suspect that the rabbi knows the deal and included you as a son. I don't know the make up of your community so I couldn't say for sure but generally speaking reform communities are pretty liberal. If there is a renewal community near you, you could give that a try too.
Hope all is well for you and Chag Samech Purim!
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: Padma on March 16, 2011, 11:29:16 AM
Post by: Padma on March 16, 2011, 11:29:16 AM
As I always say: Ma nish tana ha halaila hazeh? Ma lo? :)
Title: Re: Doing Male Mitzvot?
Post by: jodi on March 30, 2011, 06:55:33 AM
Post by: jodi on March 30, 2011, 06:55:33 AM
:)