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Title: SOYOUWANNA GET A SEX CHANGE?
Post by: Julie Marie on April 16, 2010, 07:06:42 AM
I ran across this yesterday.  Some of it was up to date, some not.  But I did learn a thing or two... :eusa_think:

SOYOUWANNA GET A SEX CHANGE? (http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/sexchange/sexchange.html)
Title: Re: SOYOUWANNA GET A SEX CHANGE?
Post by: Al James on April 16, 2010, 12:27:28 PM
hmmmmmmm
Title: Re: SOYOUWANNA GET A SEX CHANGE?
Post by: Janet_Girl on April 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Interesting.  Learned a couple of things myself.
Title: Re: SOYOUWANNA GET A SEX CHANGE?
Post by: MasterAsh on April 18, 2010, 11:29:54 PM
I read this several months ago and remember marveling at the story of Venus Castina.

Other than that, the piece seems rather out of date.
Title: Re: SOYOUWANNA GET A SEX CHANGE?
Post by: Chloe on April 19, 2010, 07:48:02 AM
Quote from: Julie Marie on April 16, 2010, 07:06:42 AMSome of it was up to date, some not.  But I did learn a thing or two...

Didn't see too much that was "new news" but did like the emphasis placed on "self-acceptance" as opposed to merely "passing" well (or a heightened awareness of the need to maintain some degree of "societal acceptance") as there is always going to be some things that will remain out of our control but must be dealt with none-the-less as we continue to hopefully take responsibility for the consequences of what more often than not turns out to be unilateral actions and decisions that are made "on our own".

The emphasis on the flat fact that becoming "post-op" is also irreversible I think reinforces the reality of ultimate satisfaction VS suicide rates that continue to indicate a disproportionate amount of too high/false expectations as well.
QuoteAcceptance of the need to maintain a job, provide for the emotional needs of children, honor a spousal commitment, and to not distress a family member as currently having a higher priority than the personal wish for constant cross-gender expression. (This doesn't mean that you can't do what you want; just that you should realize that your decisions affect a lot more people than merely yourself.)

Thus "target orientation" (see below) in my book IS an important consideration because given the general tendency/expectation of previous sexual "partner preferences" NOT changing one is still delving none-the-less into new uncharted territory wholly dependent upon totally outside perceptions/attitudes/forces -

QuoteAcceptance of personal homosexual or bisexual fantasies and behaviors (orientation) as being completely distinct from gender role aspirations.

I do not feel one can completely *disconnect* one from the other by relying on further "diversity" to carry one thru (two sides of same coin) and personally was recently amazed when, despite being married with kids for years, I was told that if indeed a suspected/continued "target gender heterosexual" I'd still be much happier/better off not burning bridges by remaining "pre-op" (or nominally/technically "gay male" with which I've had prior experience for many years now too )

Physical "Sex Change" is definitely not gonna be a catch-all panacea for all (as the pros & cons must be weighed against actual target partner expressed wishes & desires as opposed to some nefarious unrealistic concept of what life should or might be like)! While I may have no immediate use for my current forever existing "appendage" competing for another's (against better equipped GG's?) carries no guarantees either thus why arbitrarily limit future possibilities in advance based merely on "desired expectations" . . .

In our often overwhelming hurry to attain "satisfaction" One Step At A Time is all we can ever really expect out of life in the first place!

Quote from: Cat Stevens Father And Son
Father
It's not time to make a change,
Just sit down, take it slowly.
You're still young, that's your fault,
There's so much you have to go through.
Find a girl, settle down,
if you want you can marry.
Look at me, I am old, but I'm happy.

Son
All the times that I cried, keeping all the things I knew inside,
It's hard, but it's harder to ignore it.
If they were right, I'd agree, but it's them you know not me.
Now there's a way and I know that I have to go away.
I know I have to go.