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Title: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Little Dragon on May 04, 2010, 04:58:47 AM
Post by: Little Dragon on May 04, 2010, 04:58:47 AM
Hey everyone! I thought I'd like to show you all this amasing character in an anime called One Piece, he is called Emperio Ivankov the Miracle Man, he has the power to create hormones and inject them into people :D This may seem like nothing special because we do that with syringes, however, he does this using his fingers! He is an engineer of the human body, he can inject girl/boy hormones into a male/female to visably transform them in a few seconds; he can also inject adrenaline to keep people fighting and stimulate a persons immune system to fight deadly illnesses.
Here's a clip of him in action, transforming a male into a female! (happens at 0:50)
!!! Contains swear words !!![/center]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5eVxpkY8h0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5eVxpkY8h0#)
A little extra information and background:
The people he is with are called "Newkama" they're people who have been transformed already to their prefered gender, and they all live together in a secret community (within this giant prison of the entire world) who regect the notion of binary gender conformities :) Emperio Ivankov himself is a revolutionary who works with a few other revolutionaries against the world government, he has been hiding in his layer for a number of years waiting for the right time to move and in the course of this anime, Luffy's (the main character) arrival sparks this uprising..
I've been searching for a long time for animes with transgenders in them, but I just keep finding hentai and pornno sites its kind of annoying.. Does anybody here have any recommendations?
Post Merge: May 04, 2010, 03:56:58 AM
Here's a clip of him in action, transforming a male into a female! (happens at 0:50)
!!! Contains swear words !!![/center]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5eVxpkY8h0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5eVxpkY8h0#)
A little extra information and background:
The people he is with are called "Newkama" they're people who have been transformed already to their prefered gender, and they all live together in a secret community (within this giant prison of the entire world) who regect the notion of binary gender conformities :) Emperio Ivankov himself is a revolutionary who works with a few other revolutionaries against the world government, he has been hiding in his layer for a number of years waiting for the right time to move and in the course of this anime, Luffy's (the main character) arrival sparks this uprising..
I've been searching for a long time for animes with transgenders in them, but I just keep finding hentai and pornno sites its kind of annoying.. Does anybody here have any recommendations?
Post Merge: May 04, 2010, 03:56:58 AM
Quote from: Little Dragon on May 04, 2010, 04:53:57 AM
Hey everyone! I thought I'd like to show you all this amasing character in an anime called One Piece, he is called Emperio Ivankov the Miracle Man, he has the power to create hormones and inject them into people :D This may seem like nothing special because we do that with syringes, however, he does this using his fingers! He is an engineer of the human body, he can inject girl/boy hormones into a male/female to visably transform them in a few seconds; he can also inject adrenaline to keep people fighting and stimulate a persons immune system to fight deadly illnesses.
Here's a clip of him in action, transforming a male into a female! (happens at 0:50)!!! Contains swear words !!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5eVxpkY8h0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5eVxpkY8h0#)
A little extra information and background:
The people he is with are called "Newkama" they're people who have been transformed already to their prefered gender, and they all live together in a secret community (within this giant prison of the entire world) who regect the notion of binary gender conformities :) Emperio Ivankov himself is a revolutionary who works with a few other revolutionaries against the world government, he has been hiding in his layer for a number of years waiting for the right time to move and in the course of this anime, Luffy's (the main character) arrival sparks this uprising..
I've been searching for a long time for animes with transgenders in them, but I just keep finding hentai and pornno sites its kind of annoying.. Does anybody here have any recommendations?
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Hikari on May 04, 2010, 12:42:07 PM
Post by: Hikari on May 04, 2010, 12:42:07 PM
Hourou Musuko ((放浪息子) my favorite Manga is has a transgender boy, a transgender girl, and a MTF transsexual all as important characters. The Manga recently got licensed so it will be coming to America, later this year. I can really identify with the main character.
In December the anime of it will be coming out in Japan, I wouldn't hold my breath on it coming out with an English dub, but personally I prefer subtitles anyway.
Takako Shimura the woman who writes it also does a Yuri manga called Aoi Hana (Sweet Blue Flowers in the US) that got it's own anime as well.
In December the anime of it will be coming out in Japan, I wouldn't hold my breath on it coming out with an English dub, but personally I prefer subtitles anyway.
Takako Shimura the woman who writes it also does a Yuri manga called Aoi Hana (Sweet Blue Flowers in the US) that got it's own anime as well.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Little Dragon on May 04, 2010, 04:43:30 PM
Post by: Little Dragon on May 04, 2010, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: Hikari on May 04, 2010, 12:42:07 PMIn December the anime of it will be coming out in Japan, I wouldn't hold my breath on it coming out with an English dub, but personally I prefer subtitles anyway.
OMG lets hope that it STAYS undubbed :) I'd like to watch it with glorious japanese audio <3 But who is going to fansub it? I'd like to watch this anime, is the story about romance? or is it an action/adventure? jounin? seinin?
What did you think Emperio Ivankov?
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Little Dragon on May 04, 2010, 05:24:26 PM
Post by: Little Dragon on May 04, 2010, 05:24:26 PM
Quote from: Rhalkos on May 04, 2010, 04:54:25 PM
Personally I don't agree with the fetishising and commoditisation of transgender characters in anime/manga. Then again, anime and manga push a lot of fetishisation - especially of Japanese women.
Which isn't good.
I'm not interested in fetish/porno or anything that objectifies us transgenders.. I'm simply interested in an anime or manga that has a transexual or two in it.. :( It sure is a real shame that simply the mere mention of the word automatically implies "->-bleeped-<-" and pornography.. :( I don't like being objectified..
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: no_id on May 05, 2010, 04:14:53 AM
Post by: no_id on May 05, 2010, 04:14:53 AM
Hahaha I was watching the YT clip and my SO is like: 'Jesus, you're watching Hentai this early in the morning?'...
Anywho, I've never really looked for tg themes in manga/anime. Revolutionary Girl Utena will always be one of my favourites though, and it does have some interesting gender bending aspects.
Anywho, I've never really looked for tg themes in manga/anime. Revolutionary Girl Utena will always be one of my favourites though, and it does have some interesting gender bending aspects.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Little Dragon on May 05, 2010, 05:04:28 AM
Post by: Little Dragon on May 05, 2010, 05:04:28 AM
I think I'll just keep an eye out for this Hourou Musuko that Hikari found :)
Anyone wanna talk about or ask stuff about Emperio Ivankov? XD Hes quite a funny character, tho you don't see him do funny stuff in this clip
Anyone wanna talk about or ask stuff about Emperio Ivankov? XD Hes quite a funny character, tho you don't see him do funny stuff in this clip
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Fenrir on May 05, 2010, 08:45:35 PM
Post by: Fenrir on May 05, 2010, 08:45:35 PM
I firmly believe that Haruhi from Ouran High School Host Club is genderqueer. Her dad is a crossdresser. Ouran High School Host Club in general is awesome. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzoIjadkcwg&NR=1# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzoIjadkcwg&NR=1#)
Just a clip of Haruhi's dad there. The whole series is available on YouTube, dub and sub. Not that I'm shamelessly bigging it up or anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzoIjadkcwg&NR=1# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzoIjadkcwg&NR=1#)
Just a clip of Haruhi's dad there. The whole series is available on YouTube, dub and sub. Not that I'm shamelessly bigging it up or anything.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Kay on May 05, 2010, 11:28:31 PM
Post by: Kay on May 05, 2010, 11:28:31 PM
I thought Kashi Mashi was kinda cute. And I'm sure you've probably already heard of Ranma 1/2. Umm...other than that...I can't think of anything else at the moment that relates to transgender in anime.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Hikari on May 06, 2010, 03:27:43 AM
Post by: Hikari on May 06, 2010, 03:27:43 AM
Quote from: Little Dragon on May 04, 2010, 04:43:30 PM
OMG lets hope that it STAYS undubbed :) I'd like to watch it with glorious japanese audio <3 But who is going to fansub it? I'd like to watch this anime, is the story about romance? or is it an action/adventure? jounin? seinin?
What did you think Emperio Ivankov?
Well, I don't know who will fansub it, I think that yuurisan subs did Aoi Hana which was also by Takako Shimura.
The story in Hourou Musuko is more of a slice-of-life story than anything. It takes place in modern times, no one has powers, or anything like that, they are all just normal people living their lives. There is a bit of romance from time to time, but that isn't really the focus of the plot.
The plot is mostly about Shuu a boy who wants to be a girl, the supporting characters are also very important, and you get to see how everyone's parents and teachers are. It is very comprehensive in it's coverage of Shuu's life.
To the people who are worried about the perception of transgender people in Japanese media, no one in this story is more promiscuous than people are in real life, neither transgender, transsexual, nor homosexual people are used or depicted as sex objects.
This is the only manga that I have read where trans characters are not just a plot device to be used for cheap laughs. In fact there is very little funny or sexy happening in it, making it a radical departure from most other works involving gender in japan.
Kotonoha scanlated the first 34 chapters, and houroumusume did 35-84 (it is still ongoing, I can't wait for chapter 85!). Since it will come out here soon, the scanlation groups may remove the downloads sometime soon.
To answer the last question, I thought it was an interesting scene, even though I have never really been a fan of One Piece, I might check it out again.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Espenoah on May 08, 2010, 09:21:29 PM
Post by: Espenoah on May 08, 2010, 09:21:29 PM
Well, it's not made into an anime yet, but has anyone heard of the manga After School Nightmare? Here's the story from Wikipedia:
Mashiro Ichijo is a girls' idol, handsome and kind, but he has been hiding a secret all his life: he's not truly male, nor entirely female. He has the upper body of a male but the lower body of a female. When a mysterious school nurse introduces him to a new class, he finds that in order to graduate he has to go to a world of dreams to find a mysterious key, competing with other classmates to find it. As he struggles with his gender identity, he tries to decide whether he wants to live as a male and go out with one of the prettiest girls in school or as a female and be with the cute male slacker, both of which are madly in love with Ichijo.
I'm so addicted to this series. Except I'm a bit concerned of where the story is going. It seems like the main character is pretty weak-willed, and it seems like his view of himself is being clouded by how his peers expect him to act...which isn't really a good message. Hopefully that changes. I haven't read the whole series yet.
Mashiro Ichijo is a girls' idol, handsome and kind, but he has been hiding a secret all his life: he's not truly male, nor entirely female. He has the upper body of a male but the lower body of a female. When a mysterious school nurse introduces him to a new class, he finds that in order to graduate he has to go to a world of dreams to find a mysterious key, competing with other classmates to find it. As he struggles with his gender identity, he tries to decide whether he wants to live as a male and go out with one of the prettiest girls in school or as a female and be with the cute male slacker, both of which are madly in love with Ichijo.
I'm so addicted to this series. Except I'm a bit concerned of where the story is going. It seems like the main character is pretty weak-willed, and it seems like his view of himself is being clouded by how his peers expect him to act...which isn't really a good message. Hopefully that changes. I haven't read the whole series yet.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: VelindaSalazar on May 09, 2010, 09:10:40 PM
Post by: VelindaSalazar on May 09, 2010, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: Kay on May 05, 2010, 11:28:31 PM
I thought Kashi Mashi was kinda cute. And I'm sure you've probably already heard of Ranma 1/2. Umm...other than that...I can't think of anything else at the moment that relates to transgender in anime.
I actually like that anime. I thought it was really done well. I am happy how the ending turned out. :)
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: no_id on May 10, 2010, 07:06:16 AM
Post by: no_id on May 10, 2010, 07:06:16 AM
Quote from: Kay on May 05, 2010, 11:28:31 PM
I thought Kashi Mashi was kinda cute. And I'm sure you've probably already heard of Ranma 1/2. Umm...other than that...I can't think of anything else at the moment that relates to transgender in anime.
Quote from: VelindaSalazar on May 09, 2010, 09:10:40 PMAbsolutely disliked that anime.. Headdesked.. Sighed.. Facepalmed.. And watched it till the end to make sure: yes.. I really didn't like it and yes I gave it a chance..
I actually like that anime. I thought it was really done well. I am happy how the ending turned out. :)
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Big Modo on May 15, 2010, 09:47:12 AM
Post by: Big Modo on May 15, 2010, 09:47:12 AM
Not essentially anime, but one of the non-player characters in Final Fight called Poison is often very gingerly referred to being as transgender. In a nutshell, there was a group of people that classed as any sort of violence towards women as wrong when the original arcade release came out in the US so the developers turned around in a half arsed manner and said well that particular character is a guy then...
Pretty sure there is also a transgender character in the game Guilty Gear but don't quote me on that.
Pretty sure there is also a transgender character in the game Guilty Gear but don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Espenoah on May 16, 2010, 05:18:36 PM
Post by: Espenoah on May 16, 2010, 05:18:36 PM
Quote from: Big Modo on May 15, 2010, 09:47:12 AMPretty sure there is also a transgender character in the game Guilty Gear but don't quote me on that.
I do believe you're talking about Bridget. Actually, from what I understand, he never wanted to be a girl, but his family raised him as one. He doesn't actually identify as transgendered...But I've never actually played the game, so I don't know for sure. This is just what I've heard from friends.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Little Dragon on May 16, 2010, 05:30:36 PM
Post by: Little Dragon on May 16, 2010, 05:30:36 PM
Quote from: Hikari on May 06, 2010, 03:27:43 AM
The story in Hourou Musuko is more of a slice-of-life story than anything. It takes place in modern times, no one has powers, or anything like that, they are all just normal people living their lives. There is a bit of romance from time to time, but that isn't really the focus of the plot.
Ah contemporary manga :3 I like contemporary anime/manga such as Genshiken, I liked Genshiken it was so addictive for some reason - most likely because it mostly showed me japanese culture and I that always fascinates me ;D
I hope it has a happy ending.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Alyx. on May 19, 2010, 02:52:12 PM
Post by: Alyx. on May 19, 2010, 02:52:12 PM
The video no longer works. :(
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Little Dragon on May 19, 2010, 03:16:16 PM
Post by: Little Dragon on May 19, 2010, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: Heartwood on May 19, 2010, 02:52:12 PM
The video no longer works. :(
Aw what the hell?! This is really annoying because out of ALL of the Emperio Ivankov video clips there are on youtube, Toei Animation decides to DMCA the ONLY clip of him gender transforming someone..
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Alyx. on May 19, 2010, 11:42:32 PM
Post by: Alyx. on May 19, 2010, 11:42:32 PM
Yeah, well if you find a clip give me a shout! :D
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: madisonp on May 27, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
Post by: madisonp on May 27, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
Sorry to completely deviate from the topic, but Toei reminded me of Sailor Moon.
The Sailor Stars are male as their secret identity but because in their past life they were female, they transform into women :P
The Sailor Stars are male as their secret identity but because in their past life they were female, they transform into women :P
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: VIRU5 on June 06, 2010, 11:34:37 PM
Post by: VIRU5 on June 06, 2010, 11:34:37 PM
Quote from: Hikari on May 04, 2010, 12:42:07 PMThis is one of my all time favorite manga. It's cute, but deep and, unlike in other things I've read, it feels real. It's not a guy who gets magically turned into a girl, or a quirky comedy about transgenders that's corny and obviously drawn/written by someone who doesn't understand what it's like to be transgender. Such a great series. T_T I just wish it was updated more...
Hourou Musuko ((放浪息子) my favorite Manga is has a transgender boy, a transgender girl, and a MTF transsexual all as important characters.
Post Merge: June 06, 2010, 11:39:19 PM
Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 05, 2010, 01:36:06 AMHourou Musuko -flails arms- It's good.
Unfortunately I've yet to see an anime or manga that doesn't objectify or sexualise transgender people in some way.
@Little Dragon
Onemanga classifies it as seinen.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on June 22, 2010, 05:23:15 AM
Post by: Dante on June 22, 2010, 05:23:15 AM
Quote from: Fenrir on May 05, 2010, 08:45:35 PM
I firmly believe that Haruhi from Ouran High School Host Club is genderqueer. Her dad is a crossdresser. Ouran High School Host Club in general is awesome. ;D
I can't believe I didn't think of that! :eusa_doh: Haruhi is very gender-queer, and her dad's an okama. Good memory! ;D My first thought was Ranma 1/2, obviously.
@光(Hikari) - I think I'll take a look at that manga; it sounds interesting. I didn't know that such a story existed! I'm surprised there's a story with outright transgendered main characters. That's kinda cool. :)
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: without_yolk on June 28, 2010, 08:34:15 PM
Post by: without_yolk on June 28, 2010, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: The Unforgiven on June 22, 2010, 05:23:15 AM
I can't believe I didn't think of that! :eusa_doh: Haruhi is very gender-queer, and her dad's an okama. Good memory! ;D My first thought was Ranma 1/2, obviously.
@光(Hikari) - I think I'll take a look at that manga; it sounds interesting. I didn't know that such a story existed! I'm surprised there's a story with outright transgendered main characters. That's kinda cool. :)
If I recall that manga correctly... isn't it full of the writer having the characters informing the main character how she should accept being a girl or am I confusing this with another manga?
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Hikari on June 29, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
Post by: Hikari on June 29, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
Quote from: without_yolk on June 28, 2010, 08:34:15 PM
If I recall that manga correctly... isn't it full of the writer having the characters informing the main character how she should accept being a girl or am I confusing this with another manga?
If you are referring to Hourou Musuko, then you must be getting it confused with something else the main character Shuuichi Nitori is a boy that wants to be a girl, slightly less featured is Takatsuki who wants to be a boy, who doesn't really get that much flak mainly due to being pretty successful with hiding her transgender thoughts. My favorite character is Yuki the MTF, something is off with her and it is totally in a good way :)
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: muiredachau on June 29, 2010, 12:34:41 AM
Post by: muiredachau on June 29, 2010, 12:34:41 AM
Ranma changes sex with the application of water (cold water he becomes a girl, hot water returns him to male).
Konatsu is male ninja brought up as a female kunoichi. Works as a waitress at Ukyo's okonomiyaki restaurant.
Tsubasa Kurenai is a male crossdresser after Ukyo Kuonji
Konatsu is male ninja brought up as a female kunoichi. Works as a waitress at Ukyo's okonomiyaki restaurant.
Tsubasa Kurenai is a male crossdresser after Ukyo Kuonji
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on June 29, 2010, 02:30:20 AM
Post by: Dante on June 29, 2010, 02:30:20 AM
Quote from: Hikari on June 29, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
If you are referring to Hourou Musuko, then you must be getting it confused with something else the main character Shuuichi Nitori is a boy that wants to be a girl, slightly less featured is Takatsuki who wants to be a boy, who doesn't really get that much flak mainly due to being pretty successful with hiding her transgender thoughts. My favorite character is Yuki the MTF, something is off with her and it is totally in a good way :)
I've read up to the 40th chapter now (I can't put it down!). I like Takatsuki-kun, but I wish she was in it more. I really connect with her. The only thing I don't really like about it is that the story focuses a lot on issues that have nothing to do with the main story (i.e. ->-bleeped-<- and Nitori-san as a main character), like when Maho-chan becomes a model. It's kind of annoying, because I want to hear about the main characters.
I agree with you on Yuki. I like her, because she kinda dances to her own beat. She's got good advice for Nitori and Takatsuki, and she does what she feels is right regardless of what others think. :) She's one of my favorite characters.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: without_yolk on July 12, 2010, 02:17:04 AM
Post by: without_yolk on July 12, 2010, 02:17:04 AM
Quote from: Hikari on June 29, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
If you are referring to Hourou Musuko, then you must be getting it confused with something else the main character Shuuichi Nitori is a boy that wants to be a girl, slightly less featured is Takatsuki who wants to be a boy, who doesn't really get that much flak mainly due to being pretty successful with hiding her transgender thoughts. My favorite character is Yuki the MTF, something is off with her and it is totally in a good way :)
I thought someone was discussing Haruhi from Ouran High School Host Club.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Ghost on the Highway on July 19, 2010, 08:20:01 PM
Post by: Ghost on the Highway on July 19, 2010, 08:20:01 PM
Shinji and Kaworu from Evangelion (not really, but sometimes I wonder...) I think Shinji was even based off of one of Anno's female characters.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on July 20, 2010, 01:58:02 AM
Post by: Dante on July 20, 2010, 01:58:02 AM
Quote from: Ghost on the Highway on July 19, 2010, 08:20:01 PM
Shinji and Kaworu from Evangelion (not really, but sometimes I wonder...) I think Shinji was even based off of one of Anno's female characters.
I don't think they're gay (certainly not trans), I think Kaworu is just wondering about human emotions (you know the scene I'm talking about). And Kaworu is awesome, but kinda douchey. Just saying. ;D
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Ghost on the Highway on July 20, 2010, 07:31:21 AM
Post by: Ghost on the Highway on July 20, 2010, 07:31:21 AM
I agree. I don't think either of them are trans, though I think the gay side is unclear and open to interpretation. The joke on Shinji is just that he's portrayed as stereotypically "womanly" throughout the series, from the way he looks to his deferential nature and submissiveness (especially to Asuka)
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on July 21, 2010, 01:47:19 AM
Post by: Dante on July 21, 2010, 01:47:19 AM
That is true... Shinji doesn't really do that many stereotypically "manly" things. But, I don't think he's really "girly" per say, just indifferent.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Inphyy on July 21, 2010, 03:20:02 AM
Post by: Inphyy on July 21, 2010, 03:20:02 AM
Quote from: The Unforgiven on July 21, 2010, 01:47:19 AM
That is true... Shinji doesn't really do that many stereotypically "manly" things. But, I don't think he's really "girly" per say, just indifferent.
Agreed...True. But I think the word you're loving for is per sue. :angel:
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on July 21, 2010, 03:55:16 AM
Post by: Dante on July 21, 2010, 03:55:16 AM
Whoops! ::) My bad. But isn't it per se?
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Inphyy on July 21, 2010, 06:31:47 AM
Post by: Inphyy on July 21, 2010, 06:31:47 AM
Quote from: The Unforgiven on July 21, 2010, 03:55:16 AM
Whoops! ::) My bad. But isn't it per se?
Whoops! ::) My bad. Sorry for trying to help...Oh wait! It ALL depends from where you live; Just like the word practise and practice! ::) :P :D
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Lachlann on July 21, 2010, 06:46:20 AM
Post by: Lachlann on July 21, 2010, 06:46:20 AM
Quote from: Yubel on July 21, 2010, 06:31:47 AM
Whoops! ::) My bad. Sorry for trying to help...Oh wait! It ALL depends from where you live; Just like the word practise and practice! ::) :P :D
I don't think per sue is even a variation. Not one I can find anyway, as it is a latin term.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Inphyy on July 21, 2010, 07:01:36 AM
Post by: Inphyy on July 21, 2010, 07:01:36 AM
Quote from: Lachlann on July 21, 2010, 06:46:20 AM
I don't think per sue is even a variation. Not one I can find anyway, as it is a latin term.
Well I know many places that have many variations of words and almost any word can have a variation but anyways...We don't need to sidetrack this thread anymore! LOL.
But my only thing to say that's on topic is that I've seen a few trans-people in anime but not really not much! :<
Just usually androgynous or very feminine...Not actually tans-trans. :'(
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: meh on July 21, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
Post by: meh on July 21, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
I think I've read almost every "gender bender" manga on mangafox http://bit.ly/bhZbVh (http://bit.ly/bhZbVh)
Most of the actual trans ones seem to be Korean.
I'm in the middle of Global Garden right now...it's interesting.
Most of the actual trans ones seem to be Korean.
I'm in the middle of Global Garden right now...it's interesting.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on July 22, 2010, 01:34:14 AM
Post by: Dante on July 22, 2010, 01:34:14 AM
Quote from: Shade on July 21, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
I think I've read almost every "gender bender" manga on mangafox http://bit.ly/bhZbVh (http://bit.ly/bhZbVh)
No way those all have trans people in them! :o That's a lot! (BTW, I like your avatar! :laugh:)
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: meh on July 22, 2010, 04:07:55 AM
Post by: meh on July 22, 2010, 04:07:55 AM
Quote from: The Unforgiven on July 22, 2010, 01:34:14 AM
No way those all have trans people in them! :o That's a lot! (BTW, I like your avatar! :laugh:)
ha thx
Oh no, not all of them, some of them are. That's just the list of general "gender benders".
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on July 22, 2010, 04:24:20 AM
Post by: Dante on July 22, 2010, 04:24:20 AM
That makes a lot more sense! There aren't many gender bender manga/anime that have actual people who are trans. Most are just goofy "let's switch their gender and see what crap they can get themselves into" types, and while those are funny, there aren't that many truly "relatable" characters.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: meh on July 22, 2010, 04:53:12 AM
Post by: meh on July 22, 2010, 04:53:12 AM
Quote from: The Unforgiven on July 22, 2010, 04:24:20 AM
That makes a lot more sense! There aren't many gender bender manga/anime that have actual people who are trans. Most are just goofy "let's switch their gender and see what crap they can get themselves into" types, and while those are funny, there aren't that many truly "relatable" characters.
Yep, but I love manga/anime in general so they're still fun to read haha.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on July 22, 2010, 05:07:39 AM
Post by: Dante on July 22, 2010, 05:07:39 AM
Yeah, I love anime/manga! But I do wish there were more like Hourou Musuko, which focus on trans issues. I like it even more because I relate so well with Takatsuki-kun. But I just love anime/manga in general, so I'm fine with it, even though there aren't that many truely trans characters.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: meh on July 22, 2010, 05:19:05 AM
Post by: meh on July 22, 2010, 05:19:05 AM
I somehow haven't read that one yet lol. Now I will have something to do later today 8)
Actually they have a nice list of "gender bender" and trans anime/manga here http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=51484 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=51484)
Actually they have a nice list of "gender bender" and trans anime/manga here http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=51484 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=51484)
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on July 22, 2010, 05:40:18 AM
Post by: Dante on July 22, 2010, 05:40:18 AM
Hourou Musuko is great. Someone here recommended it, and I read all 87 chapters (it's ongoing, scheduled for official translating in December, and green-lighted for an anime) in about 2 weeks. It's really good, although it gets sidetracked sometimes.
And thanks for the link! I'll be sure to check out the list later.
And thanks for the link! I'll be sure to check out the list later.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on August 03, 2010, 12:47:43 AM
Post by: Dante on August 03, 2010, 12:47:43 AM
Sorry for the double-post, but I just wanted to post the link to the Hourou Musuko video I just finished. I'm glad I got to put it up today; kind of like a celebration of my first binder. Enjoy! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxl17gQ0B7M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxl17gQ0B7M#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxl17gQ0B7M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxl17gQ0B7M#)
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: michael 19 jones on August 03, 2010, 01:40:23 AM
Post by: michael 19 jones on August 03, 2010, 01:40:23 AM
I love it... Love it... love it... love it.
thank for an awesome video and congrads on getting your first binder. I wash December would hurry up and get here.
thank for an awesome video and congrads on getting your first binder. I wash December would hurry up and get here.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Dante on August 03, 2010, 11:12:05 AM
Post by: Dante on August 03, 2010, 11:12:05 AM
Thanks! ;D Glad you liked it!
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Gwenhyvar on August 03, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
Post by: Gwenhyvar on August 03, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
Wow, I can't believe I've never heard of Hourou Musuko! Much reading to do now :)
I do have a fairly large anime and manga collection (way more gender bender manga than anime), so I thought I'd share some worthwhile time-wasters! I'll try not to mention those already covered (like Ranma 1/2 - which as a total geek aside I was watching 20 years ago when you had to get friends/contacts in japan to tape it on VHS and mail it over. Finding a translation was another story!)
Anime:
Tenshi na Konamaiki | Cheeky Angel
One of my favs. Boy becomes girl, and tries to be boy again... sort of...
Kashimashi - Girl Meets Girl
-Fun. Accidental transgender MTF
Kampfer
-fun! 'Forced' sex change MTF
I My Me! Strawberry Eggs
-Cute and fun. Crossdressing as opposed to transgender (as is so often the case)
Otome wa Boku ni Koi->-bleeped-<-eru
-Cute. Also crossdressing.
Manga: (aiming for alphabetical order)
Ai no Shintairiku
-MTF Crossdressing - amazing because for once the main character is neither forced into things nor ashamed in any way.
Akane-chan Overdrive
-Cute. Boy dies and is given a second chance in the body of a cute girl in a coma.
Blue Drop ~Tenshi no Bokura~
-Borderline hentai... Lesbian aliens take over earth and 'experiment' with people. Gender bending and cross dressing.
Boku ni Natta Watashi
-FTM crossdressing.
Boku no Futatsu no Tsubasa | My Two Wings
-Great artwork. MTF Crossdressing. Enjoyed this one.
Click
-Korean. Main character has gene that causes sex change at puberty. MTF. Good read.
Conveni-N
-A bit slapstick and hard to follow. MTF.
Danshi Kin->-bleeped-<-su!!
-Multiple crossdressing males. Cute
Double House
-MTF falls for woman in her building. Short but sweet.
Futaba-kun Change
-Reminds me of Ranma. Similar forced change concept. MTF
Hanazakari no Kimitachi e
-FTM Crossdressing. meh.
Honey 2 Skip
-Just started this one. Not sure how to classify it yet.
Ichigo Channel
-FTM Crossdressing. Not bad.
Jinzou Shoujo - Artificial Maiden
-Fun! Only read the first volume so far. Boys brain transplanted into female body.
Kanaete Aizen
-Boy wishes to meet a beautiful Girl, but ends up becoming the beautiful girl.
Kill Me, Kiss Me
-Korean. Fun. Male and Female cousins switch places.
No Bra
Cute crossdressing one.
wow... this list is getting long. Perhaps I'll stop here, as anyone interested could likely just do a gender bender search on any number of anime/manga sites! No use reinventing the wheel, but if anyone wants me to continue just let me know!
I do have a fairly large anime and manga collection (way more gender bender manga than anime), so I thought I'd share some worthwhile time-wasters! I'll try not to mention those already covered (like Ranma 1/2 - which as a total geek aside I was watching 20 years ago when you had to get friends/contacts in japan to tape it on VHS and mail it over. Finding a translation was another story!)
Anime:
Tenshi na Konamaiki | Cheeky Angel
One of my favs. Boy becomes girl, and tries to be boy again... sort of...
Kashimashi - Girl Meets Girl
-Fun. Accidental transgender MTF
Kampfer
-fun! 'Forced' sex change MTF
I My Me! Strawberry Eggs
-Cute and fun. Crossdressing as opposed to transgender (as is so often the case)
Otome wa Boku ni Koi->-bleeped-<-eru
-Cute. Also crossdressing.
Manga: (aiming for alphabetical order)
Ai no Shintairiku
-MTF Crossdressing - amazing because for once the main character is neither forced into things nor ashamed in any way.
Akane-chan Overdrive
-Cute. Boy dies and is given a second chance in the body of a cute girl in a coma.
Blue Drop ~Tenshi no Bokura~
-Borderline hentai... Lesbian aliens take over earth and 'experiment' with people. Gender bending and cross dressing.
Boku ni Natta Watashi
-FTM crossdressing.
Boku no Futatsu no Tsubasa | My Two Wings
-Great artwork. MTF Crossdressing. Enjoyed this one.
Click
-Korean. Main character has gene that causes sex change at puberty. MTF. Good read.
Conveni-N
-A bit slapstick and hard to follow. MTF.
Danshi Kin->-bleeped-<-su!!
-Multiple crossdressing males. Cute
Double House
-MTF falls for woman in her building. Short but sweet.
Futaba-kun Change
-Reminds me of Ranma. Similar forced change concept. MTF
Hanazakari no Kimitachi e
-FTM Crossdressing. meh.
Honey 2 Skip
-Just started this one. Not sure how to classify it yet.
Ichigo Channel
-FTM Crossdressing. Not bad.
Jinzou Shoujo - Artificial Maiden
-Fun! Only read the first volume so far. Boys brain transplanted into female body.
Kanaete Aizen
-Boy wishes to meet a beautiful Girl, but ends up becoming the beautiful girl.
Kill Me, Kiss Me
-Korean. Fun. Male and Female cousins switch places.
No Bra
Cute crossdressing one.
wow... this list is getting long. Perhaps I'll stop here, as anyone interested could likely just do a gender bender search on any number of anime/manga sites! No use reinventing the wheel, but if anyone wants me to continue just let me know!
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Izumi on August 03, 2010, 03:46:28 PM
Post by: Izumi on August 03, 2010, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: Gwenhyvar on August 03, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
Wow, I can't believe I've never heard of Hourou Musuko! Much reading to do now :)
I do have a fairly large anime and manga collection (way more gender bender manga than anime), so I thought I'd share some worthwhile time-wasters! I'll try not to mention those already covered (like Ranma 1/2 - which as a total geek aside I was watching 20 years ago when you had to get friends/contacts in japan to tape it on VHS and mail it over. Finding a translation was another story!)
Anime:
Tenshi na Konamaiki | Cheeky Angel
One of my favs. Boy becomes girl, and tries to be boy again... sort of...
Kashimashi - Girl Meets Girl
-Fun. Accidental transgender MTF
Kampfer
-fun! 'Forced' sex change MTF
I My Me! Strawberry Eggs
-Cute and fun. Crossdressing as opposed to transgender (as is so often the case)
Otome wa Boku ni Koi->-bleeped-<-eru
-Cute. Also crossdressing.
Manga: (aiming for alphabetical order)
Ai no Shintairiku
-MTF Crossdressing - amazing because for once the main character is neither forced into things nor ashamed in any way.
Akane-chan Overdrive
-Cute. Boy dies and is given a second chance in the body of a cute girl in a coma.
Blue Drop ~Tenshi no Bokura~
-Borderline hentai... Lesbian aliens take over earth and 'experiment' with people. Gender bending and cross dressing.
Boku ni Natta Watashi
-FTM crossdressing.
Boku no Futatsu no Tsubasa | My Two Wings
-Great artwork. MTF Crossdressing. Enjoyed this one.
Click
-Korean. Main character has gene that causes sex change at puberty. MTF. Good read.
Conveni-N
-A bit slapstick and hard to follow. MTF.
Danshi Kin->-bleeped-<-su!!
-Multiple crossdressing males. Cute
Double House
-MTF falls for woman in her building. Short but sweet.
Futaba-kun Change
-Reminds me of Ranma. Similar forced change concept. MTF
Hanazakari no Kimitachi e
-FTM Crossdressing. meh.
Honey 2 Skip
-Just started this one. Not sure how to classify it yet.
Ichigo Channel
-FTM Crossdressing. Not bad.
Jinzou Shoujo - Artificial Maiden
-Fun! Only read the first volume so far. Boys brain transplanted into female body.
Kanaete Aizen
-Boy wishes to meet a beautiful Girl, but ends up becoming the beautiful girl.
Kill Me, Kiss Me
-Korean. Fun. Male and Female cousins switch places.
No Bra
Cute crossdressing one.
wow... this list is getting long. Perhaps I'll stop here, as anyone interested could likely just do a gender bender search on any number of anime/manga sites! No use reinventing the wheel, but if anyone wants me to continue just let me know!
You forgot Family Compo thats a really good one.
Mixes everything MTF FTM and crossdress. Very well i might add as not to degrade.
My barbaric Girlfriend
typical body swap gender bender, they made a live action JP show out of it, might be an anime too.. not sure.
Title: Re: Transgenders in anime!
Post by: Kairi on August 17, 2010, 04:54:12 PM
Post by: Kairi on August 17, 2010, 04:54:12 PM
I'll add my two cents to this thread as I don't see these titles being mentioned yet...
Tsukiyo no fromage is about a boy who got changed into a girl when he was kissed by a girl in a dream. When he woke up, he was in a mysterious world and a female! The girls in this manga are really cute, its definately worth checking out especially if you are into cute images.
Happiness is an anime about students who practiced magic in school. One of the characters is gay and crossdresses as a female to to be close to someone s(he) likes. In an OVA this character gets turned into a proper female due to a mix up in magic spell. The end result of this mix up is rather hilarious! A great laugh...
Tsukiyo no fromage is about a boy who got changed into a girl when he was kissed by a girl in a dream. When he woke up, he was in a mysterious world and a female! The girls in this manga are really cute, its definately worth checking out especially if you are into cute images.
Happiness is an anime about students who practiced magic in school. One of the characters is gay and crossdresses as a female to to be close to someone s(he) likes. In an OVA this character gets turned into a proper female due to a mix up in magic spell. The end result of this mix up is rather hilarious! A great laugh...