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Title: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 11, 2010, 10:29:09 AM
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 11, 2010, 10:29:09 AM
I found a pair of skinny jeans yesterday. Men's. What I like about them is that they bring out the bulge. I tried them on. Since I have no girl hips, I thought hey why not wear these? So I did. Wore them to the bar. I walked in and past some girl and she started yelling Cameron...which is my roommate. I kept walking cause I was pretty sure she wasn't talking to me. Did what I was doing looking for things in the dressing room, started to walk out. On my way out this girl said sorry..she thought I was Cam. I just shook my head and went to walk out...then I heard her telling Cam, "I thought she was you..." I whipped around so fast and yelled, "I'm not a girl, thanks." Then I left.
It might've been the fact that I was wearing a not men's hoodie, but it didn't fit like a girl's hoodie. It fit like a small guy's. And I looked gay as a fruitcake right then. But she still called me a girl. Was it the skinny jeans?
What are your experiences with wearing skinny jeans and passing? I usually pass just fine...but lately I've been told that my face gives me away. I see the endo tomorrow though...finally.
It might've been the fact that I was wearing a not men's hoodie, but it didn't fit like a girl's hoodie. It fit like a small guy's. And I looked gay as a fruitcake right then. But she still called me a girl. Was it the skinny jeans?
What are your experiences with wearing skinny jeans and passing? I usually pass just fine...but lately I've been told that my face gives me away. I see the endo tomorrow though...finally.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 10:56:51 AM
Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 10:56:51 AM
Definite no on skinny jeans.
Even skinny guys have bigger arses, thighs and hips. You may think it's not noticeable, but it most likely is.
You may not have much fat on your hips, but you will have a wider pelvis and this really shows in skinny jeans.
Even skinny guys have bigger arses, thighs and hips. You may think it's not noticeable, but it most likely is.
You may not have much fat on your hips, but you will have a wider pelvis and this really shows in skinny jeans.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 11, 2010, 10:59:23 AM
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 11, 2010, 10:59:23 AM
hm. no. not at all. If I had a pic I'd post it, but I don't. What do you mean by wider pelvis? I'd think packer...flat chest...sideburns....=male.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: PanoramaIsland on May 11, 2010, 11:04:36 AM
Post by: PanoramaIsland on May 11, 2010, 11:04:36 AM
Just wanted to drop in and point out that I think that guys in skinny jeans are mighty hot.
Of course, it does lend you a bit more of an androgynous look, which may make you less passable, but it probably depends on what people in your area are used to. I live near the San Francisco Mission District, which is hipsterland, so nobody notices a guy in skinny jeans.
I wear skinny jeans with an oversized t-shirt on most days now, which is a nice androgynous look that can be femmed or butched by what shoes you're wearing, what's on your shirt, and by what kind of jacket or hoodie, etc. you wear with it. It'll probably look good, but it probably won't help much with your passing. Then again, I don't worry much about passing nowadays - I like coming off as androgynous.
Of course, it does lend you a bit more of an androgynous look, which may make you less passable, but it probably depends on what people in your area are used to. I live near the San Francisco Mission District, which is hipsterland, so nobody notices a guy in skinny jeans.
I wear skinny jeans with an oversized t-shirt on most days now, which is a nice androgynous look that can be femmed or butched by what shoes you're wearing, what's on your shirt, and by what kind of jacket or hoodie, etc. you wear with it. It'll probably look good, but it probably won't help much with your passing. Then again, I don't worry much about passing nowadays - I like coming off as androgynous.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 11:36:10 AM
Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 11:36:10 AM
Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on May 11, 2010, 10:59:23 AMBone structure.
What do you mean by wider pelvis?
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Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 11, 2010, 11:40:17 AM
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 11, 2010, 11:40:17 AM
Hm. Idk. I don't know how many people analyze pelvic structure when they meet someone....and thinking of this just made me laugh uncontrollably xD
I'm gonna try this again tonight and tell y'all how it goes.
I'm gonna try this again tonight and tell y'all how it goes.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 12:19:33 PM
Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 12:19:33 PM
Haha, very true. Even so, I've never seen a transguy that has looked good in skinny jeans.
Compared to women, you may have smaller hips/ass/thighs, but compared to men, there's usually a noticeable difference.
Compared to women, you may have smaller hips/ass/thighs, but compared to men, there's usually a noticeable difference.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: KaleisGood4U on May 11, 2010, 12:30:15 PM
Post by: KaleisGood4U on May 11, 2010, 12:30:15 PM
Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on May 11, 2010, 11:40:17 AM
Hm. Idk. I don't know how many people analyze pelvic structure when they meet someone....and thinking of this just made me laugh uncontrollably xD
I'm gonna try this again tonight and tell y'all how it goes.
Human beings are biologically programmed to subconsciously analyze this. Ryan's right on this. You can be slim as the day is long, but bone structure and fat distribution, especially pre-testosterone, makes skinny jeans a bad idea. You said it yourself: You were mistaken for a woman. Consider the common denominators.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Nygeel on May 11, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
Post by: Nygeel on May 11, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
My butt, hips, and thighs are too big for skinny jeans.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Silver on May 11, 2010, 01:32:03 PM
Post by: Silver on May 11, 2010, 01:32:03 PM
Nay if you have a wide girly butt. Most of us seem to (myself included :()
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Greg on May 11, 2010, 01:37:08 PM
Post by: Greg on May 11, 2010, 01:37:08 PM
I'm not into skinny jeans, but then I'm not an alternative kinda guy. I've never felt the urge to even try on a pair of skinny jeans.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: alex408 on May 11, 2010, 02:24:58 PM
Post by: alex408 on May 11, 2010, 02:24:58 PM
I liked wearing skinny jeans pre-t. I thought regular boot-cut jeans made my butt look a lot bigger. I had no problem passing while wearing them. just make sure you pack
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: emil on May 11, 2010, 02:34:06 PM
Post by: emil on May 11, 2010, 02:34:06 PM
when i was really skinny (like SUPER skinny) i passed fine in skinny jeans. i was a 28 waist at 5'11'' and it looked fine - you should make sure the jeans are a little low and loose on your butt and your shirt or sweater is a) long enough to cover the top part of the jeans down to where the pockets start
b) not super-wide in comparison, but not clinging to you, since you're aiming at a slender sillouette.
generally speaking, it's probably not the best idea for most guys :-\
b) not super-wide in comparison, but not clinging to you, since you're aiming at a slender sillouette.
generally speaking, it's probably not the best idea for most guys :-\
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Zack on May 11, 2010, 03:00:27 PM
Post by: Zack on May 11, 2010, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: emil on May 11, 2010, 02:34:06 PM
you should make sure the jeans are a little low and loose on your butt and your shirt or sweater is a) long enough to cover the top part of the jeans down to where the pockets start
b) not super-wide in comparison, but not clinging to you, since you're aiming at a slender sillouette.
Yeah that's what I do and I pass fine, still as a 13 year old but yeah...
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Roro on May 11, 2010, 03:12:09 PM
Post by: Roro on May 11, 2010, 03:12:09 PM
I can't do skinny jeans. I have a huge bottom half and an hour glass figure that just can't be hidden. Skinny jeans make me look like a big femme ice cream cone.
Even on some cisguys they can be way feminizing. My husband, for example has amazing legs/bum but in skinny jeans he looks weirdly girly. He does, however look AHMAZING in combat boots and a utilikilt. >:-)
Gotta dress for your body type I'm afraid. If you get mistaken for a chick in the skinny jeans, it's time to find something else. Save them for at home if you really <3 them but don't like people's reactions. If you want something that fits a bit tighter than the usual baggy guys pants, go for a men's low rise boot cut. The slight flare below the knee makes one's legs look straighter and balances out things a bit. Just ya know, not too big a flare or it ends up making you look more curvy than you may actually be.
Were you wearing a belt at the time? If not, try again but with a belt. It's amazing how quickly someone can glance and think Oh Belt + Bulge= that simply must be a guy. VS No Belt+Bulge = That girl has funny underwear on that makes her look hung.
Even on some cisguys they can be way feminizing. My husband, for example has amazing legs/bum but in skinny jeans he looks weirdly girly. He does, however look AHMAZING in combat boots and a utilikilt. >:-)
Gotta dress for your body type I'm afraid. If you get mistaken for a chick in the skinny jeans, it's time to find something else. Save them for at home if you really <3 them but don't like people's reactions. If you want something that fits a bit tighter than the usual baggy guys pants, go for a men's low rise boot cut. The slight flare below the knee makes one's legs look straighter and balances out things a bit. Just ya know, not too big a flare or it ends up making you look more curvy than you may actually be.
Were you wearing a belt at the time? If not, try again but with a belt. It's amazing how quickly someone can glance and think Oh Belt + Bulge= that simply must be a guy. VS No Belt+Bulge = That girl has funny underwear on that makes her look hung.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Charles321 on May 11, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
Post by: Charles321 on May 11, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
I have big hips but I have still passed with skinny jeans on. A lot of my guy friends wear them. It looks a little better if you wear them lower. ANd maybe wear 2 shirts and tuck the bottom one in really good to make you look straighter.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: elvistears on May 11, 2010, 05:22:36 PM
Post by: elvistears on May 11, 2010, 05:22:36 PM
I like skinny jeans and had a bit of trouble working out if I could wear them and still pass. You might've seen my post on ftm where a million people analysed my pants. I think skinny jeans can work as long as they aren't uber-tight skinny jeans. Most people buy them a couple of sizes too small to get that really skinny effect, but I buy em a little big, so they're slim fitting but still look like skinny jeans. And they're a lot more forgiving.
As long as you get mens jeans and keep em a little loose you should be fine. And wear em low.
As long as you get mens jeans and keep em a little loose you should be fine. And wear em low.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: aydan_boy on May 11, 2010, 11:05:37 PM
Post by: aydan_boy on May 11, 2010, 11:05:37 PM
I say If your truly a stick figure, go ahead, wear the jeans. Most people can't see the difference. Especially with short hair. But with even the slightest amount of fat, thats clearly not muscle, there is no way in hell your going to pass.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: barbie on May 11, 2010, 11:39:09 PM
Post by: barbie on May 11, 2010, 11:39:09 PM
Interesting subject, as I am an m2f who wears skinny jeans frequently.
I clearly see my meager hip, and envy plumpy ones of girls. There are some skinny women who are as much skinny as me, but their hips are still rounder and bigger than me. And, many men here have big and round hips like a little bit plumy women, and I think, they look neutral to me when judging solely based on their hip and legs, and I do not think they are sexy whether they are women or men. If you have slim legs and contrastingly big hip, then it is 99% woman, which I wish to have. Slim legs + scanty hips basically looks anydrogynous, could look sexy to my eyes whether it intends men's or women's.
Most people do not study my hip, and I usually pass as a woman if I wear lipstick and other feminizing accents.
Here some young men wear skinny jeans, but girls and I wear SUPER skinny jeans. And, bulging is no so much important, as few people study it.
Some photos of my wearing SUPER skinny jeans can be seen at: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,77012.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,77012.0.html)
Barbie~~
I clearly see my meager hip, and envy plumpy ones of girls. There are some skinny women who are as much skinny as me, but their hips are still rounder and bigger than me. And, many men here have big and round hips like a little bit plumy women, and I think, they look neutral to me when judging solely based on their hip and legs, and I do not think they are sexy whether they are women or men. If you have slim legs and contrastingly big hip, then it is 99% woman, which I wish to have. Slim legs + scanty hips basically looks anydrogynous, could look sexy to my eyes whether it intends men's or women's.
Most people do not study my hip, and I usually pass as a woman if I wear lipstick and other feminizing accents.
Here some young men wear skinny jeans, but girls and I wear SUPER skinny jeans. And, bulging is no so much important, as few people study it.
Some photos of my wearing SUPER skinny jeans can be seen at: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,77012.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,77012.0.html)
Barbie~~
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: s1ncere on May 12, 2010, 12:10:51 AM
Post by: s1ncere on May 12, 2010, 12:10:51 AM
Dude I think if you feel comfortable and look good in skinnys...y not?
I wore skinnys pre-T and I had thick thighs,hips,and booty :-\ I still managed to pass in them.
Like someone said previously...wear men's skinnys that are not super skinnys and wear them a little below the hips. I wear levis 511.
I wore skinnys pre-T and I had thick thighs,hips,and booty :-\ I still managed to pass in them.
Like someone said previously...wear men's skinnys that are not super skinnys and wear them a little below the hips. I wear levis 511.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: jimmymot on May 12, 2010, 01:28:08 AM
Post by: jimmymot on May 12, 2010, 01:28:08 AM
I wore black skinny jeans with a men's dress shirt on my way to hawaai and when i got on the plane 2 days ago the flight attendent still called me "sir". and im really short.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 12, 2010, 03:57:11 PM
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 12, 2010, 03:57:11 PM
I always wear a packer.
Yes, I was wearing a belt.
No, they're not freakishly skin tight. Loose actually, but still skinny in the legs and stuff.
I have no butt.
My waist is like a 31.
I'm pretty scrawny.
The only thing I worry about is that my thighs are getting bigger, almost hippish but I think that might just be me worrying.
But guys can have big thighs too, right?
These are Levi 510 or 511s I believe.
Buuuutttt...I start T tomorrow so hopefully what little excuse for hips I might have and fat in the wrong places will be redistributed soon enough...so I won't have to worry about all this!!!!
I didn't end up wearing those jeans last night, so I have no reports. Since I'm starting T tomrrow and happy as hell, I might try wearing them tonight or tomorrow just cause I'm so stoked nothing can bring me down.
Yes, I was wearing a belt.
No, they're not freakishly skin tight. Loose actually, but still skinny in the legs and stuff.
I have no butt.
My waist is like a 31.
I'm pretty scrawny.
The only thing I worry about is that my thighs are getting bigger, almost hippish but I think that might just be me worrying.
But guys can have big thighs too, right?
These are Levi 510 or 511s I believe.
Buuuutttt...I start T tomorrow so hopefully what little excuse for hips I might have and fat in the wrong places will be redistributed soon enough...so I won't have to worry about all this!!!!
I didn't end up wearing those jeans last night, so I have no reports. Since I'm starting T tomrrow and happy as hell, I might try wearing them tonight or tomorrow just cause I'm so stoked nothing can bring me down.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: notyouraverageguy on May 12, 2010, 04:38:09 PM
Post by: notyouraverageguy on May 12, 2010, 04:38:09 PM
I wear womens skinnys &I still pass. But I sag them cause I have a big butt. They form my thighs which makes them look rly feminine, but ppl still see me as male. AND im short, I just like the way they look.
I just recently bought my first pair of mens jeans, one is boot cut, the other is a skinny. They're wayy looser and less form fitting, but I like them too.
Just go for what's u, what u like. Maybe its the way u wear them, don't worry about it unless its a high prcentage of ppl.
A lot of guys wear skinnys, and some even wear womens jeans which makes their lower half look feminine but its what they like.
Just do you.
I just recently bought my first pair of mens jeans, one is boot cut, the other is a skinny. They're wayy looser and less form fitting, but I like them too.
Just go for what's u, what u like. Maybe its the way u wear them, don't worry about it unless its a high prcentage of ppl.
A lot of guys wear skinnys, and some even wear womens jeans which makes their lower half look feminine but its what they like.
Just do you.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: xTwoOfHeartsx on May 13, 2010, 04:08:11 AM
Post by: xTwoOfHeartsx on May 13, 2010, 04:08:11 AM
Skinny jeans look great if you can pull them off.
I most certainly can't. Not yet, anyway. I still have thighs like oil drums.. and serious handles and hips and a huge gut.. hah..
I tried on a pair once, and the lady at the store was like "I know it's not my business, but.. those look terrible.." XD
I most certainly can't. Not yet, anyway. I still have thighs like oil drums.. and serious handles and hips and a huge gut.. hah..
I tried on a pair once, and the lady at the store was like "I know it's not my business, but.. those look terrible.." XD
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 14, 2010, 11:49:28 AM
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 14, 2010, 11:49:28 AM
^^ for a minute, I did a double take and thought the person in your avatar was Justin Bieber.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Ryan on May 14, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
Post by: Ryan on May 14, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
Time to invest in one of these: http://lesbianswholooklikejustin.spreadshirt.com (http://lesbianswholooklikejustin.spreadshirt.com)
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: xTwoOfHeartsx on May 14, 2010, 07:28:42 PM
Post by: xTwoOfHeartsx on May 14, 2010, 07:28:42 PM
Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on May 14, 2010, 11:49:28 AM
^^ for a minute, I did a double take and thought the person in your avatar was Justin Bieber.
LMAO.. ME?! You thought I looked like Justin Bieber?! .. Oh dear God.. *dies laughing*
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: elvistears on May 14, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
Post by: elvistears on May 14, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
I had the Bieber cut earlier in the year. I kinda want to brush the hair outta his face. I'm so gross.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Jamie-o on May 15, 2010, 12:51:00 AM
Post by: Jamie-o on May 15, 2010, 12:51:00 AM
I remember skinny jeans from the 80's. Never, never again.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: emoboi on May 15, 2010, 10:19:40 PM
Post by: emoboi on May 15, 2010, 10:19:40 PM
I like skinny jeans and thats all i wear but I am not out nor do I pass but I always hear is that a guy or a girl? which i want to respond with ->-bleeped-<- off.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Between Names on May 15, 2010, 10:45:26 PM
Post by: Between Names on May 15, 2010, 10:45:26 PM
I think it's okay to wear skinny jeans as long as you don't wear them like a girl. Today I looked in a full-length mirror and thought, "something is totally wrong here." Then I pulled down my pants a little and realized, "OH! I was wearing my pants like a girl!"
So yeah, sag 'em just a bit. Just so it looks like you're leaving room for your junk, at least.
So yeah, sag 'em just a bit. Just so it looks like you're leaving room for your junk, at least.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 17, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on May 17, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
Lol. I can't stand pants at waist level anyhow. Do you guys think that a nice belt distracts from any possible fat pattern or body structure that would give us away, or does it just make it more obvious? Cause I got some sweet belts today...and I was wondering. IMO, they call attention away from anything that might not scream male.
Title: Re: Skinny jeans...yay or nay?
Post by: Ryan on May 17, 2010, 01:04:13 PM
Post by: Ryan on May 17, 2010, 01:04:13 PM
Yeah, I think they probably distract from the general shape of your hips by drawing attention to the detail.