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Title: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: notyouraverageguy on May 20, 2010, 01:53:00 PM
We were handed a mentor/new family with our transition to start a new life.
Itd be totally awesome to have a male role model there teaching me how to be a man. Erasing all the years of being raised as a female.
And having a family basically adopting you that actually sees you as male, without the femal history.
Things would be so much easier for us imo.
I mean I rly have no one to look up to, to teach me how to be a guy.
The mannerisms, to shave, how to be a gentleman, just simple things you know.

Just a thought?
Wish there were some bio males out there would be willing to help &provide us with a big brother type of program.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Ryan on May 20, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
I dunno about everyone else, but I don't really feel that I need someone to teach me to be male/masculine.
I do have a couple of really close mates (bio-guys) who I can talk to about anything though. I was recently wondering about nipple size/position and stuff so asked my mate to take his shirt off so I could check out his nipples, haha.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: tekla on May 20, 2010, 02:37:57 PM
The way to learn to be a gentleman is to associate with other gentlemen in gentle situations - at least in the older use of the word gentle.

But the time honored way to pick up every bad boy, disgusting male habit is to join a construction crew.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: notyouraverageguy on May 20, 2010, 02:56:42 PM
Haha that's pretty cool.
Well that's the thing with me, I have no guy friends what so ever.
I have a couple of guy cousins but were not as close anymore.
And the one guy I talk to most is also trans, but we've never met.
So im screwed for now.
:/
I guess I need to find more guy friends.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: KaleisGood4U on May 20, 2010, 04:07:58 PM
Though there have been times I've been so mad at my dad I wanted to tear his nuts off and shove them down his throat, he's taught me a lot about being a man.  I think the more he comes to understand me and some of my gender identity problems, the closer we've gotten.  He and I will never see eye to eye, but there's a mutual understanding of struggling in our roles.  Oddly enough, we discussed ligands (T/androgens/etc.) and why he might benefit from them.  And I think he gets it.  He's noted before he has no issues with transmen (although he's a staunch homophobe), so I'm lucky.  We'll see how it shakes out.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Lachlann on May 20, 2010, 04:34:47 PM
Quote from: Ryan on May 20, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
I dunno about everyone else, but I don't really feel that I need someone to teach me to be male/masculine.
I do have a couple of really close mates (bio-guys) who I can talk to about anything though. I was recently wondering about nipple size/position and stuff so asked my mate to take his shirt off so I could check out his nipples, haha.
I feel the same way.

Maybe that's just because all the father figures in my life have turned out to be douches, lol.

Honestly, though, if you want to learn about the anatomy stuff you might be better off looking through a book as not everyone measures up to the normal or average measurements. Nipple position is usually in line with the outer edges of the abs. Men's nipples are usually 1 inch(25 mm) in diameter.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Ryan on May 20, 2010, 04:40:35 PM
Me and my dad don't get on, but that's not really the reason. I just don't feel that I need man lessons.

As for the nipples: I've looked at tonnes of pictures, but you can't really get the 3D view. Plus it's good to know that it's just a regular person with an regular, imperfect body, rather than some faceless model in a book or whatever.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Lachlann on May 20, 2010, 05:06:05 PM
*shrug* I honestly think all bodies are imperfect and riddled with mistakes but I understand wanting a live model in front of you. In art, the reason why we go by certain dimensions is because they're the most common that come up. It's just the basic guidelines for measurement, and they don't really change with more fat or less muscles, but rather sometimes height.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2Fe8k5k5.jpg&hash=1247b3a04533dc9aa3a00b68330886080a5cbd00)
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Silver on May 20, 2010, 05:22:16 PM
Nah, I like my family. I just got lucky there. What would really be nice is if they could sort of get inside my head and understand it like I do.

As for male friends, probably useful but I don't really have any brotherly male-male style friendships (I'm not sure if they are.) No female friends though, so I don't have much in the way of "female conditioning."

I think I'd rather figure it out for myself for the most part.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Walter on May 20, 2010, 06:03:27 PM
I love my family way too much to change them (at least my mom and brother and once in a while my dad)

I would like to have a mentor though. But I don't see what learning Male mannerisms are gonna do me now since I can't pass or anything
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Devin87 on May 20, 2010, 06:10:17 PM
I'm totally ordering the heroic body when I get my surgery.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Walter on May 20, 2010, 06:23:44 PM
The heroic one looks like one of those Greek statues :laugh:
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: notyouraverageguy on May 21, 2010, 02:45:27 AM
Idk, maybe its just me then.
I feel like being raised as female, then transitioning &trying to do it all on my own makes me trans.
Because im going to have that female past, the mannerisms, the habits, the sensitivity...
I just want to be like any other guy, not that trans guy.
If someone was willing to reteach me the ways of life as a man, I think id feel more confident.
Haha I don't even know if im making sense.

And yeah I want that body too! Like something from 300.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Silver on May 21, 2010, 02:48:35 AM
Quote from: ccc on May 21, 2010, 02:45:27 AM
Idk, maybe its just me then.
I feel like being raised as female, then transitioning &trying to do it all on my own makes me trans.
Because im going to have that female past, the mannerisms, the habits, the sensitivity...
I just want to be like any other guy, not that trans guy.
If someone was willing to reteach me the ways of life as a man, I think id feel more confident.
Haha I don't even know if im making sense.

And yeah I want that body too! Like something from 300.

I used to feel I got sort of cheated out of being raised normally. But the way I was raised isn't a problem either. I think of it as I must make myself into a man. And that has its own sort of appeal.

Hmm, I'd take the idealistic/fashionable. Somehow I think I'd be uncomfortable being that huge (maybe I'm just too used to being short.)
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Carson on May 21, 2010, 08:58:21 AM
Regardless of the fact that I was raised mostly female, my dad and I were always really close, we bonded a lot when I was very young via science experiments practically every night when he came home from work and through him teaching me how to launch rockets. My having a younger sister also caused my dad to raise me a bit more male than my sister. I was always told that I had to protect her and be strong for her.

Now that really has nothing with any mannerisms I may or may not have developed that could be female but more my mentality. I don't have any female mannerisms and never did. I always had male mannerisms, that's why very few people liked me when I was still presenting as female, because I was an extremely awkward person. Now that everyone sees me how they are supposed to and my mannerisms match up, I am a much more likeable person.

I was also never a very sensitive person except for the few years after puberty hit and I was going through depression.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: Ryan on May 21, 2010, 08:05:58 PM
I don't really feel that I was raised particularly female.
Once my parents realised that forcing me into feminine activities/clothing/etc was making me miserable and angry they just let me be myself.
Spent most of my childhood with the boys, being a boy, so I guess I was pretty much raised as one.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be great if
Post by: notyouraverageguy on May 21, 2010, 11:06:34 PM
Im short too but that's why I feel I must be huge to make up for it lol.

Im close to my dad, but my parents are always trying to make me more feminine. I think I already am way to feminine, I hate being so girly. What makes it worse is im the baby of the family, so most of my life I was spoiled... no good.

I definitely need more guys in my life.