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I can't leave the message body empty, but there are really no details I have to add to this question.

In short?
Not really.

Phalloplasty leaves a lot to be desired in the appearance department.  There's only so much you can do with flesh from the arm, ribcage or thigh, to make it resemble a natal penis.

Metoidioplasty often strongly resembles an uncircumcised penis, but there are significant shortcomings in size.  I suppose the best description of metoidioplasty would be that the end result is often a perfect in appearance micro-penis.

Transbucket has pictures of completed surgeries, as do many of the FTM Bottom surgery surgeons.  Look for results that are at least 6 months post-op, as they are more representative of the final appearance.

Quote from: Muddy on June 25, 2010, 01:39:22 PM
In short?
Not really.

Phalloplasty leaves a lot to be desired in the appearance department.  There's only so much you can do with flesh from the arm, ribcage or thigh, to make it resemble a natal penis.

Metoidioplasty often strongly resembles an uncircumcised penis, but there are significant shortcomings in size.  I suppose the best description of metoidioplasty would be that the end result is often a perfect in appearance micro-penis.

Transbucket has pictures of completed surgeries, as do many of the FTM Bottom surgery surgeons.  Look for results that are at least 6 months post-op, as they are more representative of the final appearance.

I don't really have much to add, but I agree with this.  It's the reason I'm not going to get bottom surgery.

I wish brother I wish but give it 10 or 15 years and hope to see some great progression  ;D

I've heard that after your junk grows on T, if you get meta it basically looks like a very small penis.

Only if you get really lucky and develop a penis on T larger than a micropenis.

Yeah, true...  Otherwise it would look like a very very, very small penis...

Quote from: LucienOctopus on July 07, 2010, 11:54:09 PM
I've heard that after your junk grows on T, if you get meta it basically looks like a very small penis.

This.

I figured I'd rather have a micropenis than no penis.  :)


Jay

Meta can produce "very small" but otherwise relatively normal looking results.

Well, actually, I recently discovered a legit and safe phalloplasty done only in Europe that does not use skin/muscle that would normally leave intense scar tissue. It's called MLD Phalloplasty which uses the musculocutaneous latissimus dorsi flap (MLD flap), a piece from your back, sort of side area. It apparently leaves little to no scar tissue as long as you follow proper pre-op instructions that involve professional massaging of the area. It also allows you to choose your "size" and makes it appear far more realistic. This also allows you to perform any "activity" that any other man could. There are requirements to get this surgery though, like other surgeries need to be done before this and (as far as I know) two letters of referral from psychologists. This is, of course, only information. I do not know anyone personally who received this specific operation.

However, I do have a link to the website for this doctor/company. I just need a Mod to approve it first, just in case. :)

Quote from: Tom Edward Quackenbush on July 14, 2010, 04:25:50 AM
Well, actually, I recently discovered a legit and safe phalloplasty done only in Europe that does not use skin/muscle that would normally leave intense scar tissue. It's called MLD Phalloplasty which uses the musculocutaneous latissimus dorsi flap (MLD flap), a piece from your back, sort of side area. It apparently leaves little to no scar tissue as long as you follow proper pre-op instructions that involve professional massaging of the area. It also allows you to choose your "size" and makes it appear far more realistic. This also allows you to perform any "activity" that any other man could. There are requirements to get this surgery though, like other surgeries need to be done before this and (as far as I know) two letters of referral from psychologists. This is, of course, only information. I do not know anyone personally who received this specific operation.

However, I do have a link to the website for this doctor/company. I just need a Mod to approve it first, just in case. :)

I have that link saved on my laptop's Favorites. I really want to get that done - unless a surgery more realistic comes out, which will probably happen since I'm still in my teens and don't imagine I'll be getting surgery done for at least five years. Mainly the reason I want to get this surgery done is because you can choose the penis size (and I don't want a super small penis) and you can have sex and it looks more realistic. However, it probably costs a lot more than I can afford money-wise.

could you send me the link of the site? im really interested.

Quote from: accord03 on August 23, 2010, 05:11:02 AM
could you send me the link of the site? im really interested.

Message me and I can send the link to you. Lol. Sorry, I'm not sure how to message people, but it shows up when somebody sends a message.

yeah im a ftm myself, and ive heard about this mld phalloplasty, and i like in the uk, can i get this surgery done?

Quote from: LucienOctopus on July 07, 2010, 11:54:09 PM
I've heard that after your junk grows on T, if you get meta it basically looks like a very small penis.

This is true.

For me, having A penis is better than NO penis.


Jay

Quote from: alexx on August 19, 2010, 07:29:15 PM
I have that link saved on my laptop's Favorites. I really want to get that done - unless a surgery more realistic comes out, which will probably happen since I'm still in my teens and don't imagine I'll be getting surgery done for at least five years. Mainly the reason I want to get this surgery done is because you can choose the penis size (and I don't want a super small penis) and you can have sex and it looks more realistic. However, it probably costs a lot more than I can afford money-wise.

I've read a lot of the surgeon's stuff, he seems excellent, the methods they use are safer than the majority of phallo operations, and he specifically says that he works out financing plans for patients who can't afford to pay up front. The only downside is the wait between surgeries when coupled with the fact it's in Europe. You'll either need to get a hotel (the hospital will set you up with one for around $2000something for the month and a half wait time) or fly back and forth. Depending on where you're coming from (aka the flights available for you to take) it may or may not be more cost effective to take the hotel option, but consider time that has to be taken off of work (you have to take it easy during that time, regardless).

But yes. It's at the top of my list, but I'm also trying to get some information on the Centurion. It's such a specialized procedure that I haven't been able to find any pictures of the results at a decent length of time after the operation.

Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 21, 2011, 07:27:18 AM
Wouldn't it be possible if they like, injected growth hormones into the clit or something?

People have thought of this before and as of right now the answer is basically no lol

Quote from: accord03 on June 26, 2010, 05:04:40 AM
I wish brother I wish but give it 10 or 15 years and hope to see some great progression  ;D

I'm with you on that.  That's the positive side of being a 20 year old who is broke lol.  Hopefully by the time I can actually get the money together something better will come along.

Quote from: .Thomas. on July 14, 2010, 04:25:50 AM
Well, actually, I recently discovered a legit and safe phalloplasty done only in Europe that does not use skin/muscle that would normally leave intense scar tissue. It's called MLD Phalloplasty which uses the musculocutaneous latissimus dorsi flap (MLD flap), a piece from your back, sort of side area. It apparently leaves little to no scar tissue as long as you follow proper pre-op instructions that involve professional massaging of the area. It also allows you to choose your "size" and makes it appear far more realistic. This also allows you to perform any "activity" that any other man could. There are requirements to get this surgery though, like other surgeries need to be done before this and (as far as I know) two letters of referral from psychologists. This is, of course, only information. I do not know anyone personally who received this specific operation.

However, I do have a link to the website for this doctor/company. I just need a Mod to approve it first, just in case. :)

I'd very much like to know which doctor/company, as I live in the UK and this sounds good. PM me please.

Whenever i've seen photographs of Phalloplasty results it's always made me very depressed about my options for bottom surgery but now this gives me a little bit of hope! The option to have a normal sized penis that looks realistic is all i could ask for :)

Advancements in medicine never cease to amaze and delight me

Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on November 30, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
I'd very much like to know which doctor/company, as I live in the UK and this sounds good. PM me please.

Sava Perović was the one to make that technique although he died 2 years ago. Rados P. Djinovic took up the practice in his honour.
http://www.savaperovic.com/ (http://www.savaperovic.com/)

Quote from: Jay.Lewis.P on December 19, 2012, 08:22:47 AM
Whenever i've seen photographs of Phalloplasty results it's always made me very depressed about my options for bottom surgery but now this gives me a little bit of hope! The option to have a normal sized penis that looks realistic is all i could ask for :)

Advancements in medicine never cease to amaze and delight me

I've seen a real range of results, ranging from unrealistic to authentic.  There's a guy here in Australia, I know through my networks, and he got the MDL surgery in Europe and the result looks pretty authentic.  They have resolved the 'urethra-length' problem through their urenthroplasty method.  That allows any length phallus you like as part of your surgery option.  What they do, is scarify the underside of the neophallus, upon 'installation', then roll around the scarified area into a tube.

The Foundation where this work is done seems to have a method for getting that slight flare look to the glans.  And they do this procedure to the glans that kinda crinkles the skin in the right way and they tattoo the skin to get the glans that purplish colour.  I'm told that the surgeon has 20,000 hours of sculpting work.

I also saw a British job.  He dropped his pants and pumped it up on TV (documentary, BBC) and really--the result looked quite acceptable.  I've seen some excellent German work, and some fine results (transbucket) for the Perovic Foundation.

I'm about to find out for myself.  I'm heading over in August and MDL is the option I've chosen.

cheers
stav

Phalloplasty gets a bad rap but they can look really real.
Exhibit A:
http://media.tumblr.com/2b17311ae1176f7e8d160d5eb91b647e/tumblr_inline_mp4j3yI9UE1qz4rgp.jpg (http://media.tumblr.com/2b17311ae1176f7e8d160d5eb91b647e/tumblr_inline_mp4j3yI9UE1qz4rgp.jpg)
Exhibit B:
http://media.tumblr.com/28e0d7856437a5172746760a8b49667a/tumblr_inline_mp4ixdPfnT1qz4rgp.jpg (http://media.tumblr.com/28e0d7856437a5172746760a8b49667a/tumblr_inline_mp4ixdPfnT1qz4rgp.jpg)

Guys have had their genitals pass in front of doctors after phallo. All dicks are different, and they aren't all pornstar cocks.

mangoslayer, wow I have never seen such amazing results before, very cool, thanks for sharing.

Quote from: mangoslayer on July 09, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
Phalloplasty gets a bad rap but they can look really real.
Exhibit A:
http://media.tumblr.com/2b17311ae1176f7e8d160d5eb91b647e/tumblr_inline_mp4j3yI9UE1qz4rgp.jpg (http://media.tumblr.com/2b17311ae1176f7e8d160d5eb91b647e/tumblr_inline_mp4j3yI9UE1qz4rgp.jpg)
Exhibit B:
http://media.tumblr.com/28e0d7856437a5172746760a8b49667a/tumblr_inline_mp4ixdPfnT1qz4rgp.jpg (http://media.tumblr.com/28e0d7856437a5172746760a8b49667a/tumblr_inline_mp4ixdPfnT1qz4rgp.jpg)

Guys have had their genitals pass in front of doctors after phallo. All dicks are different, and they aren't all pornstar cocks.

not too bad, hey.  Turn lights off, or dim em and who'd know difference.

Quote from: Make_It_Good on July 12, 2013, 08:54:24 AM
As far as medicine goes now, things will never be 100% perfectly like a biological looking penis, but surgeon's techniques have come very far even in the past few years for phalloplasty. Im aware that it truly isn't for everyone, but I just wanted to point out that quite a lot of the results floating around out there on the internet are out of date, in terms of what surgeons are able to do now.

I have seen results from a few different surgeons, Dr Meltzer, Mr Christopher and Mr Ralph, that I think are great, and there have been guys who have gone out and had their penis' seen and people have not guessed.
   Someone had seen mine (without going into detail) and they couldn't tell. (Few!).

yes, I'm with you.  I've seen some really good work.  I also suspect you can have sculpting work done, in waives, if you like, post op, to get closer to authentic looks.  There are prostheses that have heads on them to make the glans curve in all the right ways, as well.  You don't get that 'vein-y' look on a neophallus.  Pity.  Not all phalluses have that anyway, but the donor tissue has too thick a layer of adipose tissue for that.

I'm getting MDL, and although I have average BMI, you never see protruding veins in the lat area of the body....

Quote from: stavraki on July 03, 2013, 03:45:54 AM
I've seen a real range of results, ranging from unrealistic to authentic.  There's a guy here in Australia, I know through my networks, and he got the MDL surgery in Europe and the result looks pretty authentic.  They have resolved the 'urethra-length' problem through their urenthroplasty method.  That allows any length phallus you like as part of your surgery option.  What they do, is scarify the underside of the neophallus, upon 'installation', then roll around the scarified area into a tube.

The Foundation where this work is done seems to have a method for getting that slight flare look to the glans.  And they do this procedure to the glans that kinda crinkles the skin in the right way and they tattoo the skin to get the glans that purplish colour.  I'm told that the surgeon has 20,000 hours of sculpting work.

I also saw a British job.  He dropped his pants and pumped it up on TV (documentary, BBC) and really--the result looked quite acceptable.  I've seen some excellent German work, and some fine results (transbucket) for the Perovic Foundation.

I'm about to find out for myself.  I'm heading over in August and MDL is the option I've chosen.

cheers
stav

I have to agree with you. I did see some post op pics of some and they all looked real enough to me. I mean no penis to me really looks awesome but as long as it gets the job done your good to go with the ladies :)

Quote from: Tristan on July 14, 2013, 04:36:03 PM
I have to agree with you. I did see some post op pics of some and they all looked real enough to me. I mean no penis to me really looks awesome but as long as it gets the job done your good to go with the ladies :)

now that brought a smile to my face :) Morning to you :) Thank you for the awesome message - as I get myself ready for work and enjoy a hot cup of green tea......

kind regards
stav

I've seen the best results from Perovic's office in Serbia. That's the only place I'd go.

Quote from: Jamison on July 14, 2013, 05:46:03 PM
I've seen the best results from Perovic's office in Serbia. That's the only place I'd go.

Hey that's the most awesome news I've heard for a while ..... omg, I'm getting on a place to fly outa 'stralia in *gulp* 3 weeks!  I can't believe how quickly the time's gone.....

Stav, are you leaving for surgery in 3 weeks....?

If so, I hope all goes well with everything. Good luck and happy healing :)

Stavraki, from a fellow Aussie, best of luck!

Quote from: Luke Andrew on July 16, 2013, 08:33:02 AM
Stavraki, from a fellow Aussie, best of luck!

"she'll be right mate" :) ta muchly matey - where are you based.  I'm in Melbourne....

Quote from: mangoslayer on July 09, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
Phalloplasty gets a bad rap but they can look really real.
Exhibit A:
http://media.tumblr.com/2b17311ae1176f7e8d160d5eb91b647e/tumblr_inline_mp4j3yI9UE1qz4rgp.jpg (http://media.tumblr.com/2b17311ae1176f7e8d160d5eb91b647e/tumblr_inline_mp4j3yI9UE1qz4rgp.jpg)
Exhibit B:
http://media.tumblr.com/28e0d7856437a5172746760a8b49667a/tumblr_inline_mp4ixdPfnT1qz4rgp.jpg (http://media.tumblr.com/28e0d7856437a5172746760a8b49667a/tumblr_inline_mp4ixdPfnT1qz4rgp.jpg)

Guys have had their genitals pass in front of doctors after phallo. All dicks are different, and they aren't all pornstar cocks.

Please, is there any way of getting in touch with Exhibit A guy? I really want that penis!

To be fair I've just had the 1st stage of radial arm phalloplasty done in the uk and I'm more than happy with the look of it so far. It may not look totally biological but my wife says there is not much difference between it and a bio males.