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Title: Decorated clothes
Post by: barbie on July 02, 2010, 10:45:45 PM
Post by: barbie on July 02, 2010, 10:45:45 PM
Yesterday I tried to purchase clothes for summer through the internet. It was difficult to find what I can like. Most of clothes for women here are too much decorated IMHO, but I prefer simplified designs.
The following is an example of what I see typically in stores or the internet here.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fdecor.jpg&hash=4460844f73e84f61f7b3cd26e476c25434e64820)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fdecor2.jpg&hash=81bcd9f0c05b4fe96495c18534ff8c84665e7520)
Various decorations, which I do not like.
My preferred style is like:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fdress.jpg&hash=03daa03a7e40efb56df49f7ca19f6fd4d4045472)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fred_one-piece.jpg&hash=07e92aec91dad2e97a72a1321256123372cc8799)(https://www.susans.org/forums/MGalleryItem.php?id=2152)
Feminine, but still simple style.
I am curious whether this difference in preference is due to my ->-bleeped-<-, and there is a pattern among m2f transgender people in choosing clothes in contrast to other GGs. Or the difference is cultural one, I mean between my country (Far East Asia) and U.S. or other western countries. It would be also possible that preference varies by person, but still I think there are some trend and pattern.
Barbie~~
The following is an example of what I see typically in stores or the internet here.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fdecor.jpg&hash=4460844f73e84f61f7b3cd26e476c25434e64820)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fdecor2.jpg&hash=81bcd9f0c05b4fe96495c18534ff8c84665e7520)
Various decorations, which I do not like.
My preferred style is like:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fdress.jpg&hash=03daa03a7e40efb56df49f7ca19f6fd4d4045472)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fred_one-piece.jpg&hash=07e92aec91dad2e97a72a1321256123372cc8799)(https://www.susans.org/forums/MGalleryItem.php?id=2152)
Feminine, but still simple style.
I am curious whether this difference in preference is due to my ->-bleeped-<-, and there is a pattern among m2f transgender people in choosing clothes in contrast to other GGs. Or the difference is cultural one, I mean between my country (Far East Asia) and U.S. or other western countries. It would be also possible that preference varies by person, but still I think there are some trend and pattern.
Barbie~~
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 02, 2010, 11:30:48 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 02, 2010, 11:30:48 PM
I'm not sure if there is a trend but I like all types of different clothes.
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Shang on July 02, 2010, 11:37:03 PM
Post by: Shang on July 02, 2010, 11:37:03 PM
It could be the culture.
In the part of the country of the US I live in, clothes are either very decorated or very very simple. At least feminine clothes are.
I prefer feminine but simple clothing myself because I don't care to draw attention to myself.
In the part of the country of the US I live in, clothes are either very decorated or very very simple. At least feminine clothes are.
I prefer feminine but simple clothing myself because I don't care to draw attention to myself.
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: barbie on July 03, 2010, 12:33:00 AM
Post by: barbie on July 03, 2010, 12:33:00 AM
Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on July 03, 2010, 12:24:11 AM
By decoration, do you mean patterns? Or accessories?
Or do you mean structured (i.e ruched/pleated/scalloped)? Or detailed (i.e. lace/weaving/beaded)?
Probably, all of them.
Barbie~~
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Cindy on July 03, 2010, 03:18:58 AM
Post by: Cindy on July 03, 2010, 03:18:58 AM
Barbie,
Your fashion picks seem to go for the clean line, well cut style. I quite like that in dresses, and in some skirts, but I do like decorated tops. I also like flare skirts and again you seem to go for the more body hugging style. I don't think this has anything to do with TGism, just personal taste.
Just on this, I'm loving boots, but I want to wear some with jeans. How do you get girl jeans to fit when your butt is too small ::). The problem for me seems to be the front bit (in women's jeans) doesn't fit properly even when I'm totally tucked. I'm as flat as a tack but they still don't fit. OK not a major world problem, but I want a bit of butt eye attention :laugh: even if I don't know about it ::)
Cindy
Your fashion picks seem to go for the clean line, well cut style. I quite like that in dresses, and in some skirts, but I do like decorated tops. I also like flare skirts and again you seem to go for the more body hugging style. I don't think this has anything to do with TGism, just personal taste.
Just on this, I'm loving boots, but I want to wear some with jeans. How do you get girl jeans to fit when your butt is too small ::). The problem for me seems to be the front bit (in women's jeans) doesn't fit properly even when I'm totally tucked. I'm as flat as a tack but they still don't fit. OK not a major world problem, but I want a bit of butt eye attention :laugh: even if I don't know about it ::)
Cindy
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: lightvi on July 03, 2010, 05:09:02 AM
Post by: lightvi on July 03, 2010, 05:09:02 AM
I dunno if I have a specific style but I do like punkish cute things :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eshop-china.com%2Fbmz_cache%2Fc%2Fcd5eb820d08b1ae0028bf737da50de51.image.550x550.jpg&hash=3effc28a9c8aff3c116e04b10954d97892814e27)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffanchaos.com%2Ffanplusfriend%2Fc4%2FGothic_Punk_Sun-top_Mesh_2Pcs_K00078_01.jpg&hash=f7d1ef921a03c9c7c3b92e45b18b1a155e8ba43f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eshop-china.com%2Fbmz_cache%2Fc%2Fcd5eb820d08b1ae0028bf737da50de51.image.550x550.jpg&hash=3effc28a9c8aff3c116e04b10954d97892814e27)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffanchaos.com%2Ffanplusfriend%2Fc4%2FGothic_Punk_Sun-top_Mesh_2Pcs_K00078_01.jpg&hash=f7d1ef921a03c9c7c3b92e45b18b1a155e8ba43f)
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: barbie on July 03, 2010, 11:20:01 AM
Post by: barbie on July 03, 2010, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Shang on July 02, 2010, 11:37:03 PM
It could be the culture.
In the part of the country of the US I live in, clothes are either very decorated or very very simple. At least feminine clothes are.
Yes. I noticed it. Most clothes in the U.S. are designed to accentuate body lines whereas clothes here tend to hide body lines with flares. But many men here comment to me that my fashion lacks decoration and I have better wear tops with decorations. But I think it is too much feminine to wear at workplace or home.
Barbie~~
Post Merge: July 03, 2010, 12:08:42 PM
Quote from: CindyJames on July 03, 2010, 03:18:58 AM
Just on this, I'm loving boots, but I want to wear some with jeans. How do you get girl jeans to fit when your butt is too small ::). The problem for me seems to be the front bit (in women's jeans) doesn't fit properly even when I'm totally tucked. I'm as flat as a tack but they still don't fit. OK not a major world problem, but I want a bit of butt eye attention :laugh: even if I don't know about it ::)
Well, Cindy. Two days ago I measured my hip size. It was slightly larger than 36 inch, which is bigger than I had thought. A standard hourglass body shape is 36-24-36. My waist size is about 27 inch, and my hip needs to be bigger than 36 inch for the hourglass shape, but there are many jeans that can fit to my rather masculine hip.
Juniors' or young ladies fit well to my hip. However, those jeans or pants for ladies are actually mostly for married and fully matured women who tend to have bigger breasts and hips. This kind of jeans or pants causes some problems for me: too loose for my hips and even for my thighs. For this reason, I like to wear jeans for juniors. The following is a size 5 for juniors.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fjordache%2Fjordache_back1.jpg&hash=7eaad4baf4f96edf73ad42d1d69a6f7ddad0a6eb)
So, my answer is to try juniors' jeans. I will never purchase again pants for aged women (currently I have 4 pairs).
Barbie~~
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: tekla on July 03, 2010, 12:45:03 PM
Post by: tekla on July 03, 2010, 12:45:03 PM
I kinda like plain simple lines for the most part, but nothing wrong with cute and the first set of pics had cute by the bucketful.
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Sinnyo on July 03, 2010, 05:45:16 PM
Post by: Sinnyo on July 03, 2010, 05:45:16 PM
I hadn't really thought about it before, but I prefer a plain look too. I think it is just personal taste, however - my room, website and appearance all tend to be quite crisp and minimalistic. It makes things a little tricky when finding gothwear. Luckily most casual womenswear available to the UK these days is made with simplicity in mind. It's easy to find a good pair of trousers or a black, flared skirt, but hard to avoid frilly lacey stuff when I'm browsing tops.
They're a sore point for me - I may feel quite happy in simple designs, but I fear a bolder design. It's a matter of pulling that look off, irrespective of 'passing'. I've felt the same about both masculine and feminine clothes.
They're a sore point for me - I may feel quite happy in simple designs, but I fear a bolder design. It's a matter of pulling that look off, irrespective of 'passing'. I've felt the same about both masculine and feminine clothes.
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Lyric on July 03, 2010, 08:08:44 PM
Post by: Lyric on July 03, 2010, 08:08:44 PM
Really, I don't find most of your examples all that "decorated". I think you'd probably look great in any of those things. Of you little photos, these look the most like you to me: top row/#4, 2nd row/#1, 2nd row/#4. I love the button detailing on 3rd row/#2. It's up to you, of course, but sometimes it's good to get out of your usual mold and try something different. I think a lot of people get into ruts with "simple" looks and end up looking boring-- though it's hard to imagine calling you that. I, for instance, swore off buying anything else black after looking in the closet one day and noticing how many black things I had.
Lyric
Lyric
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: barbie on July 04, 2010, 12:45:12 AM
Post by: barbie on July 04, 2010, 12:45:12 AM
Quote from: Lyric on July 03, 2010, 08:08:44 PM
I, for instance, swore off buying anything else black after looking in the closet one day and noticing how many black things I had.
Me, too. Most of tees in my closet are white or black, which I wear at my workplace and home. In other occasions, I can choose bright ones with some embellishments. Strangely, most of my short pants are of bright colors. I guess m2f crossdressed tend to choose simplipied fashion items to minimizesome problems at workplace, as vexing implied. If I am entirely from such obstacles, I may choose freely clothes with various decorations.
Barbie~~
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Elijah3291 on July 04, 2010, 01:06:38 AM
Post by: Elijah3291 on July 04, 2010, 01:06:38 AM
Quote from: lightvi on July 03, 2010, 05:09:02 AM
I dunno if I have a specific style but I do like punkish cute things :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eshop-china.com%2Fbmz_cache%2Fc%2Fcd5eb820d08b1ae0028bf737da50de51.image.550x550.jpg&hash=3effc28a9c8aff3c116e04b10954d97892814e27)
that is THE CUTEST little jacket, I can really see myself in that once I am on T
-the twink lol
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Sinnyo on July 04, 2010, 07:56:49 AM
Post by: Sinnyo on July 04, 2010, 07:56:49 AM
Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on July 03, 2010, 08:12:42 PM
I think it's about breaking out of comfort zones - most male clothing lacks embellishment, so getting used to embellished clothing can be a challenge for many trans women.
... I reckon you've nailed it there, ƃuıxǝʌ. That does make me feel better about things. The most 'embellished' guy-thing I've ever worn is just a shirt with (whee fun) eyelet ties - that doesn't exactly compare with petticoats and lace. :)
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: insanitylives on July 07, 2010, 03:29:09 PM
Post by: insanitylives on July 07, 2010, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: Elijah on July 04, 2010, 01:06:38 AMHm..
that is THE CUTEST little jacket, I can really see myself in that once I am on T
-the twink lol
Make it NON A&F, and change the style slightly (buckles anyone?) and... hm, there's something that's undeniably girly about that jacket that I can't pinpoint, maybe it's just the fact that it clearly cuts off just at the belly button, rather than going down further. Make it a bit longer
Then yeah.
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Elijah3291 on July 07, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
Post by: Elijah3291 on July 07, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: insanitylives on July 07, 2010, 03:29:09 PM
Hm..
Make it NON A&F, and change the style slightly (buckles anyone?) and... hm, there's something that's undeniably girly about that jacket that I can't pinpoint, maybe it's just the fact that it clearly cuts off just at the belly button, rather than going down further. Make it a bit longer
Then yeah.
I'd punk it out by just wearing it :) hah
and I dunno.. longer jackets make my hips more noticeable.. I think id want to be on T before wearing this jacket.
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Hikari on July 08, 2010, 01:06:54 AM
Post by: Hikari on July 08, 2010, 01:06:54 AM
I prefer simpler more timeless fashions as well, however, I tend to enjoy gothic and retro clothes even if they are complicated.
Actually, I was cruising some antique stores in the "Histroric" district of a city near me and I seen many elegant patterns for sale from the 50-60s that I think that the OP would like. I used to work on clothes, but now I barely even crochet, after seeing those patterns I feel I really need to get back into it again, even though I really need a sewing machine or I am going to get carpel tunnel or something...
Actually, I was cruising some antique stores in the "Histroric" district of a city near me and I seen many elegant patterns for sale from the 50-60s that I think that the OP would like. I used to work on clothes, but now I barely even crochet, after seeing those patterns I feel I really need to get back into it again, even though I really need a sewing machine or I am going to get carpel tunnel or something...
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: Kaeren on July 10, 2010, 11:13:40 AM
Post by: Kaeren on July 10, 2010, 11:13:40 AM
My preferred style is also this one from Barbie.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fred_one-piece.jpg&hash=07e92aec91dad2e97a72a1321256123372cc8799)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi943.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad278%2Fbarbie_pictures%2Fdress.jpg&hash=03daa03a7e40efb56df49f7ca19f6fd4d4045472)
In fact, that's what I am wearing right now. The black one.
Title: Re: Decorated clothes
Post by: barbie on July 15, 2010, 09:51:50 AM
Post by: barbie on July 15, 2010, 09:51:50 AM
Quote from: Kaeren on July 10, 2010, 11:13:40 AM
In fact, that's what I am wearing right now. The black one.
I saw a young woman wearing that kind of black one-piece dress in the beach while I ran for exercise today evening. She was as tall as me, even with her flat sandals. She looked very slim and attracted my attention, because of her unusual dress (other girls usually wear tees that can hide their waist line). Nowadays young girls (and boys) here became very tall compared with 20 years ago, as they have been fed very well.
Barbie~~