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Title: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: MRH on July 07, 2010, 05:05:48 PM
Well as Im too scared to get my hair cut short I decide I'll take a picture with all my hair pushed to one side and then with photoshop edit that hair out. Well to my suprise I look like a very convincing boy with short hair. I even added a little beard which looks quite ok.
I may put the picture up here soon but i'm still a little bit uncomfortable about posting any real pictures of me (Just incase some randomer I know ends up finding me on this site)
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: mL on July 08, 2010, 11:47:45 AM
No picture... Cool story, then?
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Hikari on July 08, 2010, 12:51:37 PM
Well, if you do post something up, make sure you do it in "just for us" so only people who are registered here could see it rather than any random google searcher.

OT: I actually have stopped using my Photoshop cs3, nowadays I am 100% GIMP instead, and now that they have released a single window interface option, I am going to use it even more. I love editing photos.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: LivingInGrey on July 08, 2010, 01:16:13 PM
OT: GIMP has single window interface???


Gunna have to check that out.

I agree with the "Just for us" section also.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: spacial on July 08, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
MRH

I understand your reluctance to post pictures of youself. Announcing to people you are transgender is one thing. But having people finding out by stumbling on your picture, that is just losing control ofthe entire situation.

And what we all need is some control.

Our journey is one of self discovery, more than anything. We take each step as we feel confident. These may sound like a lot of metaphores, but I'm pretty sure you and everyone here will know what I mean.

Good luck with your photoshop.

Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Hikari on July 08, 2010, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: LivingInGrey on July 08, 2010, 01:16:13 PM
OT: GIMP has single window interface???


Gunna have to check that out.

I agree with the "Just for us" section also.

Yep, it's in the 2.7.x   dev release, but if you don't want to import it from a PPA or if you run Windows, it will be out with the 2.8 release for everyone. They've been working on the interface for about a year now, I am surprised it took this long actually.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: MRH on July 08, 2010, 02:06:54 PM
Actually i'm slowly getting the courage to put it as my profile picture. I dont want to be ashamed of myself. If people find it (and I doubt they will. I dont think anyone I know is gonna search a trans forum lol) then I will deal with it.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Hikari on July 08, 2010, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: MRH on July 08, 2010, 02:06:54 PM
Actually i'm slowly getting the courage to put it as my profile picture. I dont want to be ashamed of myself. If people find it (and I doubt they will. I dont think anyone I know is gonna search a trans forum lol) then I will deal with it.

You really have a point there MRH, No one should be searching a transgender forum unless they really already know or strongly suspect, that is unless your username is your RL nickname or legal name, in which case google could lead them here.

"I Don't want to be ashamed of myself."- That is an interesting way of putting it, and It got me thinking, there are so many things that I don't like about how I look but, that is me and I really shouldn't be ashamed.

Even though I am not really "Out" I don't think I can afford to be ashamed of myself anymore. I think I will change my profile pic as well to the 'real' me as well, but in the meantime here I am untouched by GIMP, fat face and all (I am not that fat, why does my face look like I am!? My wife says it's in my head but...):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.ggpht.com%2F_3ZYJAKY7N9w%2FTDZAu7KJwPI%2FAAAAAAAAACI%2FYJklSk33AGY%2Fs400%2F2010-07-08-161929.jpg&hash=f29556dc60a8ff44825477e31de016190acae38b)

Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Eva Marie on July 08, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
You look great, hikari!!!!
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: spacial on July 08, 2010, 06:28:47 PM
Understand your point MRH, though, if I may suggest, I don't see it as being ashamed, more being in control.

I want to tell people when I am ready to deal with it myself and deal with them.

But mostly dealing with me.

I think each of us will present what we each feel as and when we are ready. It isn't something that any of us should do before that.

That's just my opinion though.

Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Rosa on July 08, 2010, 07:25:43 PM
Very pretty hikari!  Love the blouse/dress (not sure which).
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: MRH on July 09, 2010, 06:29:39 AM
Well...
<---There I am lol.
Beard looks a little....bad but could be worse I suppose.
I showed my mum the image (without beard) just to see what she thought and she said I looked like Meatloaf. MEATLOAF! Didnt make me feel so great lol
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: confused on July 09, 2010, 06:45:46 AM
hmm nice pic . i don't see any meatloafness though lol , srsly all i can see is a good looking guy
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 09, 2010, 06:54:02 AM
Quote from: eNTROPY on July 09, 2010, 06:45:46 AM
hmm nice pic . i don't see any meatloafness though lol , srsly all i can see is a good looking guy

Same here! =D
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: spacial on July 09, 2010, 07:28:15 AM
MRH.

Really great to see you.  :D

You're a bit of a hunk really.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Hikari on July 09, 2010, 11:30:13 AM
You look fine MRH, I think we are always our own worst critics, I can think of a million things that I think make me look terrible, but most of them are in my head rather than reality. You certainly don't look like meatloaf, at least not that I can tell.

Doesn't it feel better to have a real picture up? For me it is somewhat liberating, if a bit scary.

BTW: Thank you all for your kind comments, and to Robertina it is a dress, It is one of my favorites ;)
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Janet_Girl on July 09, 2010, 11:50:03 AM
MRH You look very handsome.  ;)

Hikari You are very pretty.  ;D
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Rock_chick on July 09, 2010, 04:17:24 PM
I like both pictures.

Hikari, I think the only thing wrong with that picture is the angle and the unflattering lighting, because you do look very pretty
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: spacial on July 09, 2010, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: Helena on July 09, 2010, 04:17:24 PM
I like both pictures.

Hikari, I think the only thing wrong with that picture is the angle and the unflattering lighting, because you do look very pretty

Ok Helena, I can see you with an interesting camera and assume you are into photography.

I am also feeling a bit frisky after being attacked on all sides, on a completely unrelated forum because I posted an opinion which was different from everyone elses. ( But I was right dammit!!!)

But on the subject of Hakari's photos, I really like them. they are kinda goth, (is that the right word? I'm really trying to keep up with modern usage), and imply a sort of discontentment.

I also think the lighting is excellent. darker, more shadows, would have over done the effect. Lighter and the effect would be gone.

The open door, in the back ground is interesting. Incongruous to the image, yet it works. It may also indicate a temporary stay in that place. That the subject is seeking to walk away. The other open door, on the other side of the hall, leading to a darkened room suggests something has been closed off from the present reality for this figure.

the environment looks kinda well off and a bit formal. This juxtaposes with the goth figure, breaking with convention.

The eye liner suggests some borderline depression. The hair, clean yet unkempt, adds to the overall effect.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Hikari on July 09, 2010, 07:25:33 PM
Quote from: Helena on July 09, 2010, 04:17:24 PM
I like both pictures.

Hikari, I think the only thing wrong with that picture is the angle and the unflattering lighting, because you do look very pretty

Thank you very much :)

I actually just stood up at my desk and held my MSI Wind u100 up, turned Cheese on and took a photo with my webcam. The only reason why the picture isn't completely black is because of my desklamp. In fact, the whole occurrence was rather spontaneous, really I had no intent to take any pictures much less post them here, but I got to thinking what MRH said, and it occurred to me that I was a bit ashamed of the way I looked and I realized that I needed to get over that and just put myself out there.

@spacial: I'm glad you thought of it like that, I really just took a few webcam pics and decided on that one (some were terrible!!!). I have a decent older 7mp camera and some positionable lights, and I think I could do much better, I enjoy photography myself, even though I don't really have the talent for it.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: SnailPace on July 10, 2010, 12:13:52 AM
Hey MRH!

Looking pretty hansome, dude.  In fact, I'd bet most people would read you as male in that pic.  You should totally get a haircut.  :)
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: spacial on July 10, 2010, 04:40:01 AM
Quote from: Hikari on July 09, 2010, 07:25:33 PM


@spacial: I'm glad you thought of it like that, I really just took a few webcam pics and decided on that one (some were terrible!!!). I have a decent older 7mp camera and some positionable lights, and I think I could do much better, I enjoy photography myself, even though I don't really have the talent for it.

Some of the best expressions are spontainious. Psychiatrists say there are no accidents. I don't actually believe that, but it does have a very large element of truth.

The photo you chose to post says a lot. You clearly have more talent than you realise.

Anyway, I annalyse everything.  :D And I do like your photo.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Colleen Ireland on July 10, 2010, 08:32:49 AM
Love the photo, MRH - you look totally natural.  Way more so than I look as a girl, for now, anyway, lol.  I envy you.  I did have a chance to try my wife's makeup the other week, but I really had no idea what I was doing.  A bit of foundation, some lipstick, and precious little else - I did try the eyebrow pencil, but it didn't do much, and what I think was blush but I couldn't get much on, ditto with eyeliner.  Anyway, I took a picture, because much the same as you, my burning question is.. What would I look like in my preferred gender?  I have fears of looking like Mrs. Doubtfire, but I think the effect was not too bad.  I put a scarf over my head since I don't have a wig and my hair (unlike yours) is very short (wanna trade?).  I can't wait till I can post it here - it'll be my profile pic.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Rock_chick on July 11, 2010, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: spacial on July 09, 2010, 06:35:37 PM
Ok Helena, I can see you with an interesting camera and assume you are into photography.

I am also feeling a bit frisky after being attacked on all sides, on a completely unrelated forum because I posted an opinion which was different from everyone elses. ( But I was right dammit!!!)

But on the subject of Hakari's photos, I really like them. they are kinda goth, (is that the right word? I'm really trying to keep up with modern usage), and imply a sort of discontentment.

I also think the lighting is excellent. darker, more shadows, would have over done the effect. Lighter and the effect would be gone.

The open door, in the back ground is interesting. Incongruous to the image, yet it works. It may also indicate a temporary stay in that place. That the subject is seeking to walk away. The other open door, on the other side of the hall, leading to a darkened room suggests something has been closed off from the present reality for this figure.

the environment looks kinda well off and a bit formal. This juxtaposes with the goth figure, breaking with convention.

The eye liner suggests some borderline depression. The hair, clean yet unkempt, adds to the overall effect.

It's mainly the fact that the skin tones and highlights are blown, resulting in a loss of definition (for me) in the face which I think is unflattering. But as has been said it's been taken with a desk lamp and web cam, which is a world away from a DSLR with lighting rig.
Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: spacial on July 11, 2010, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: Helena on July 11, 2010, 12:34:11 PM
It's mainly the fact that the skin tones and highlights are blown, resulting in a loss of definition (for me) in the face which I think is unflattering. But as has been said it's been taken with a desk lamp and web cam, which is a world away from a DSLR with lighting rig.

You see, you've confirmed my suspicissions. You are a photo person.  :D

Title: Re: The brilliance of photoshop
Post by: Rock_chick on July 12, 2010, 06:45:59 AM
Quote from: spacial on July 11, 2010, 03:10:15 PM
You see, you've confirmed my suspicissions. You are a photo person.  :D

How did you guess?  :laugh: