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Title: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
Well I'm talking to an online friend and I told him I told my sister I'm transgender and he said I should've told her I want to be. But I told him it's not that I want to be, I am. And he was like well what if you tell everyone and then they don't let you for some reason. They being therapist, medical experts etc. And I'm like either way I'll always be a girl in my (and my friends eyes)so I don't care what anyone allows me to do I plan on living as Kimberly with or without HRT. And then he goes hun if they decide this they made the decision for a reason. And I'm like okay but I don't care what anyone tells me. I'm a girl.
So I'm curious are there any reasons I would not be allowed to transition? Should I worry?
So I'm curious are there any reasons I would not be allowed to transition? Should I worry?
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: cynthialee on July 13, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
Post by: cynthialee on July 13, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
Do what you feel is right and true to self, all other concerns are secondary.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: cynthialee on July 13, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
Do what you feel is right and true to self, all other concerns are secondary.
That's how I feel. If for some reason I'm not allowed hormones I still plan on living as Kimberly. I don't care what people think. I'm me and I have to do this or I won't have a good happy life, I don't think I will. btw I asked him why he seemed so against it and he just wants me to think of all the possibilities. He's really supportive though. <3 :D
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: cynthialee on July 13, 2010, 01:40:18 PM
Post by: cynthialee on July 13, 2010, 01:40:18 PM
You seem sane and very persistant that you need to transition....If you can't get the first psyrink to give you an HRT letter then find a new therapist.
I doubt you will have many issues transitioning. If you do, you take your battle someplace else.
I doubt you will have many issues transitioning. If you do, you take your battle someplace else.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 01:41:33 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 01:41:33 PM
That's what I plan on doing :D I went to my first therapy session on monday and I'm going back next week. The therapist understands why I'm there and he seems great. It was so easy talking to him!
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Janet_Girl on July 13, 2010, 04:43:11 PM
Post by: Janet_Girl on July 13, 2010, 04:43:11 PM
Sounds like your friend is trying to throw roadblocks and doubt at you. But your attitude is the right one, now matter what: you are Kimberly and not just becoming her.
Stand tall and proud, dear Sister.
Hugs
Stand tall and proud, dear Sister.
Hugs
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 05:55:18 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 05:55:18 PM
Thanks Janet! *huggg*
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: alexia elliot on July 13, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
Post by: alexia elliot on July 13, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
Transition, besides its obvious physical transformation, also means to become one in all the aspects of gender. I recently have come out to my sister as you know and after her acceptance, even if I would never opted for hormones, I would feel that much more my self finally allowed to share my true self with someone else. I understand you have come out to your sis too, and as you point out to your friends as well. Hon, there is nothing that can stop you, and if you feel just what you tell to us you are going to be on your way to become who you are with prescription in hand. No one can deny you the use of hormones if you honestly are transgender which you obviously are, unless serious health risks arise.
Love, Alexia
Love, Alexia
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 06:20:36 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 06:20:36 PM
Thanks Alexia! That's what I was curious of and I don't have any health issues, none that I know of anyways. My family has a pretty good health record. So I was just curious haha. =D
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: YellowDaisy on July 13, 2010, 06:32:57 PM
Post by: YellowDaisy on July 13, 2010, 06:32:57 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 13, 2010, 01:26:37 PMnot that i know of... it sounds like he isn't the smartest on this, and even if no one let you, it's not their choice. "allowed" is not any part of it. that would be like not being "allowed" to get chemo therapy for cancer.
Well I'm talking to an online friend and I told him I told my sister I'm transgender and he said I should've told her I want to be. But I told him it's not that I want to be, I am. And he was like well what if you tell everyone and then they don't let you for some reason. They being therapist, medical experts etc. And I'm like either way I'll always be a girl in my (and my friends eyes)so I don't care what anyone allows me to do I plan on living as Kimberly with or without HRT. And then he goes hun if they decide this they made the decision for a reason. And I'm like okay but I don't care what anyone tells me. I'm a girl.
So I'm curious are there any reasons I would not be allowed to transition? Should I worry?
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 06:37:44 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 06:37:44 PM
Quote from: Maylene on July 13, 2010, 06:32:57 PM
not that i know of... it sounds like he isn't the smartest on this, and even if no one let you, it's not their choice. "allowed" is not any part of it. that would be like not being "allowed" to get chemo therapy for cancer.
I don't think he knows what he's talking about either lol. He likes to sound smart lol.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: lilacwoman on July 13, 2010, 06:42:36 PM
Post by: lilacwoman on July 13, 2010, 06:42:36 PM
your friend's 'problem' is the same as lots of other people who will try to stop you transitioning - they have always known you as a guy - and they and you can't imagine just how much you will become more female with the hormones but as your mind tells your body to be more girly.
This time next year you'll be amazed and delighted by the changes but you may have lost lots of friends and relatives in the process.
This time next year you'll be amazed and delighted by the changes but you may have lost lots of friends and relatives in the process.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: glendagladwitch on July 13, 2010, 06:43:15 PM
Post by: glendagladwitch on July 13, 2010, 06:43:15 PM
There's no need to be worried about not finding medical professionals who will help you transition. Just get good referrals from local organizations, and don't get railroaded into going to physicians picked out for you by parents. "Transexuals" are basically self-diagnosed and self-treated. The medical professionals are just along for the ride. Even if you get a diagnosis for depression, bipolar, or schizophrenia or whatever, they just treat that and then go forward from there. It's a brief delay, but not a complete obstacle to transition. Only you can stop you, by deciding to detransition, and even that is just another delay if you decide to transition again. All they need to see is a persistent desire to transition and RLT over the course of a year, without untreated psychosis, suicide attempts, etc. You're good to go.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 06:44:57 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: lilacwoman on July 13, 2010, 06:42:36 PM
your friend's 'problem' is the same as lots of other people who will try to stop you transitioning - they have always known you as a guy - and they and you can't imagine just how much you will become more female with the hormones but as your mind tells your body to be more girly.
This time next year you'll be amazed and delighted by the changes but you may have lost lots of friends and relatives in the process.
I'm so excited to see myself next year! I'm turning 19 on friday and I keep telling my bestie "omg! I could have boobs when I'm 20!" haha and I understand that I may lose friends and relatives because of this, but the ones I really care about keeping know and are 110% on board with me. The ones that know anyways. I have a few relatives who are very dear to me and I know they won't mind. My aunt is amazing and i love her so much and I know she'll be there for me because she's so compassionate to kids and one of her girlfriends is a FTM! So when I tell her I don't think she'll be bothered haha.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: alexia elliot on July 13, 2010, 07:33:05 PM
Post by: alexia elliot on July 13, 2010, 07:33:05 PM
All the power to you babe. What a perfect age to transition, do it for all of us who awaited our transgender desires to go away when they only got stronger with age and brought us to old age and lots of dreams gone with the wind. If you know, and I am sure you do, Go For It Girl with Love Power!
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 07:40:03 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 07:40:03 PM
Aww Alexia! You're so sweet! Thank you <3
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Northern Jane on July 15, 2010, 03:42:45 AM
Post by: Northern Jane on July 15, 2010, 03:42:45 AM
Don't worry about it Hon - there are many paths that will lead you to your destiny.
I started this whole thing in my teens, way back when nobody knew anything (like the early 1960's!) and most figured it had to be some kind of mental illness. I just kept at it, slow, deliberate, persistent, keep trying kind of attitude. From age 15 and being threatened with being institutionalized and treated (with male hormones!) against my will, to finding a doctor who would prescribe HRT (though he had never done it before), to SRS at 24 - I made it!
Times have changed a whole lot since then. Now almost everybody knows about it and it is almost routine. The path is there, the steps have been defined, so if you are persistent and rational about it, there will be people there to help. You are of an age where your feelings and decisions have to be respected so nobody can stop you unless you let them talk you out of it.
I started this whole thing in my teens, way back when nobody knew anything (like the early 1960's!) and most figured it had to be some kind of mental illness. I just kept at it, slow, deliberate, persistent, keep trying kind of attitude. From age 15 and being threatened with being institutionalized and treated (with male hormones!) against my will, to finding a doctor who would prescribe HRT (though he had never done it before), to SRS at 24 - I made it!
Times have changed a whole lot since then. Now almost everybody knows about it and it is almost routine. The path is there, the steps have been defined, so if you are persistent and rational about it, there will be people there to help. You are of an age where your feelings and decisions have to be respected so nobody can stop you unless you let them talk you out of it.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: rejennyrated on July 15, 2010, 03:51:25 AM
Post by: rejennyrated on July 15, 2010, 03:51:25 AM
Quote from: Northern Jane on July 15, 2010, 03:42:45 AMSame story as Northern Jane, only a few years later than her, but ironically I made it at just about the same age. Back then there were doctors who would take it upon themselves to try and "not allow" you to transition and inevitably I found one of them! ::) But these days as has been said, the path is open and the only thing which could stop you is lack of determination.
Don't worry about it Hon - there are many paths that will lead you to your destiny.
I started this whole thing in my teens, way back when nobody knew anything (like the early 1960's!) and most figured it had to be some kind of mental illness. I just kept at it, slow, deliberate, persistent, keep trying kind of attitude. From age 15 and being threatened with being institutionalized and treated (with male hormones!) against my will, to finding a doctor who would prescribe HRT (though he had never done it before), to SRS at 24 - I made it!
Times have changed a whole lot since then. Now almost everybody knows about it and it is almost routine. The path is there, the steps have been defined, so if you are persistent and rational about it, there will be people there to help. You are of an age where your feelings and decisions have to be respected so nobody can stop you unless you let them talk you out of it.
Have fun and be happy! As the old saying goes it's a great life if you don't weaken... :)
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 04:04:45 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 04:04:45 AM
Thanks girls! I love it here at Susans! Hearing from those of you who have gone through this makes me feel better. I am so excited to go through this. I'm ready to be me. After 19 years I'm ready.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Cindy on July 15, 2010, 04:32:49 AM
Post by: Cindy on July 15, 2010, 04:32:49 AM
I really think your friend just doesn't understand. The decisions are going to be very largely yours. Oh to be 19 and so cute.
Hugs, have a great journey, and lots of Mums are here for you :laugh: :laugh:
:icon_birthday: :icon_birthday: :icon_birthday:
Cindy
Hugs, have a great journey, and lots of Mums are here for you :laugh: :laugh:
:icon_birthday: :icon_birthday: :icon_birthday:
Cindy
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 04:34:51 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 04:34:51 AM
Thanks Cindy! =D He and I are really close, as far as online friends go. I do consider him one of my best friends though. He says he's just trying to make sure I think of all possible outcomes. But I am and so far nothing has changed my mind.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 11:49:09 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 11:49:09 AM
Thanks Val! I'm so invested in this because it's the only thing that makes me feel like this. Once I started thinking about transitioning and I accepted myself as a trans woman and not gay, my whole life changed. I know it's only been like a month or so but I've never felt like this.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Iceprincess on July 17, 2010, 12:09:23 PM
Post by: Iceprincess on July 17, 2010, 12:09:23 PM
Hey, is it me or we're passing through the same?
I had a conversation with a friend yesterday, he knows about me being trans, and he said exactly the same words :o
omg is your friend named Jeff? lol
ok enough thread hijacking :P
I hope I can also start soon :/ I'm almost 18 and the more I think about it, the more I want to go through the transition. Hopefully things will go great for us!
If this is really what you want to do, go for it :)
I had a conversation with a friend yesterday, he knows about me being trans, and he said exactly the same words :o
omg is your friend named Jeff? lol
ok enough thread hijacking :P
I hope I can also start soon :/ I'm almost 18 and the more I think about it, the more I want to go through the transition. Hopefully things will go great for us!
If this is really what you want to do, go for it :)
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 01:22:44 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 01:22:44 PM
Haha no. <3 But, not only is it something I want to do, I really feel like it's the only thing that will allow me to be happy in life. Nothing will stop me. Hopefully we get to start hrt soon! I'm so anxious! =[ I want to look like a girl already!
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Rock_chick on July 17, 2010, 02:22:34 PM
Post by: Rock_chick on July 17, 2010, 02:22:34 PM
You sound like you'll be absolutely fine hun. Mostly the road blocks come from within.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 02:28:25 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 02:28:25 PM
Thanks Helena! I don't think there's anything stopping me. Before I realized I was trans, and I thought I was gay, I never had problems with my body, other than weight, but more and more each day I get frustrated that I look like a boy! I can't wait to get on HRT :)
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 02:39:17 PM
Post by: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 02:39:17 PM
I and many of my family thought I was gay but I kept complicating that view of me by constantly having sex with women.
;D
;D
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 02:42:33 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 02:42:33 PM
haha oh. The thing is I don't want to have sex with woman. I don't REALLY want to have sex with a man either. Well I do but I don't want to use the parts I have now.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 02:45:48 PM
Post by: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 17, 2010, 02:42:33 PMWell I do like men for casual sex on occasion I do not prefer to do so espescialy with the curent config. But I will relent and do it anyways if given the oportunity, I am willing to run the risk of a dysphoria attack to have sex.
haha oh. The thing is I don't want to have sex with woman. I don't REALLY want to have sex with a man either. Well I do but I don't want to use the parts I have now.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 02:47:57 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 02:47:57 PM
I wouldn't mind having sex with a man now, but I really don't want to get it in the butt! That's dirty! :(
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 03:38:31 PM
Post by: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 03:38:31 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 17, 2010, 02:47:57 PMWanna know a secret?
I wouldn't mind having sex with a man now, but I really don't want to get it in the butt! That's dirty! :(
Most of the men I have had 'gay' sex with (well over 200) were not interested in anal either direction, giving or recieving. The reality does not pare up with the comon belief, which is all gay men want to do it in the ass.
Most either wannna give or recieve a BJ or handjob.
However there are plenty that do like it and expect it.......
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: April Dawne on July 17, 2010, 04:41:24 PM
Post by: April Dawne on July 17, 2010, 04:41:24 PM
Kimberly, there isn't anyone that can "stop" you from transitioning except you. I don't think it's a question of not being "allowed" but more a question of will you do it. You seem very sure in the fact that it's something you really want to do, and once you are over 18 (if you aren't already) you can make your own decisions, and take the first steps toward that goal.
Some people have asked, "why not just live as a gay male?" and the answer is simple... I'm NOT a gay male. I won't even have a relationship with a man until I have had SRS so that I can have it the "right" way, as a woman. I have even heard that many post-op M2F end up living as straight women even if they leaned more toward females pre-op.
In short, don't listen to people who don't know what they are talking about, as they are most likely going on misinformation or their own misguided theories. Move at your own pace, and do what is right for you, not anyone else!
You are already a beautiful young lady in my eyes =]
Some people have asked, "why not just live as a gay male?" and the answer is simple... I'm NOT a gay male. I won't even have a relationship with a man until I have had SRS so that I can have it the "right" way, as a woman. I have even heard that many post-op M2F end up living as straight women even if they leaned more toward females pre-op.
In short, don't listen to people who don't know what they are talking about, as they are most likely going on misinformation or their own misguided theories. Move at your own pace, and do what is right for you, not anyone else!
You are already a beautiful young lady in my eyes =]
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 04:50:19 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 04:50:19 PM
Quote from: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 03:38:31 PM
Wanna know a secret?
Most of the men I have had 'gay' sex with (well over 200) were not interested in anal either direction, giving or recieving. The reality does not pare up with the comon belief, which is all gay men want to do it in the ass.
Most either wannna give or recieve a BJ or handjob.
However there are plenty that do like it and expect it.......
Really? I mean it appeals to me in a way but Idk I just don't want to do it as a male. And I don't want to get a bj or handjob either! I would love to give one though. haha
Quote from: AprilDawn on July 17, 2010, 04:41:24 PM
Kimberly, there isn't anyone that can "stop" you from transitioning except you. I don't think it's a question of not being "allowed" but more a question of will you do it. You seem very sure in the fact that it's something you really want to do, and once you are over 18 (if you aren't already) you can make your own decisions, and take the first steps toward that goal.
Some people have asked, "why not just live as a gay male?" and the answer is simple... I'm NOT a gay male. I won't even have a relationship with a man until I have had SRS so that I can have it the "right" way, as a woman. I have even heard that many post-op M2F end up living as straight women even if they leaned more toward females pre-op.
In short, don't listen to people who don't know what they are talking about, as they are most likely going on misinformation or their own misguided theories. Move at your own pace, and do what is right for you, not anyone else!
You are already a beautiful young lady in my eyes =]
Thanks April! I just turned 19 yesterday and I started therapy last monday, so I'm on my way! Just getting so restless!!
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: April Dawne on July 17, 2010, 05:07:02 PM
Post by: April Dawne on July 17, 2010, 05:07:02 PM
I know how you feel! I've been on HRT about 5 months now, and it seems to be taking forever! There ARE changes, but being stubborn and impatient, I want it all now =]
Hopefully the therapist sees you for you soon and you can take the next step!
Hopefully the therapist sees you for you soon and you can take the next step!
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 05:10:01 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 05:10:01 PM
I've only had one session but he seems great with the transgender issue. I was so scared going in, but he was so easy to talk to and hopefully I can get a letter this week. lol. I know I can't get one that soon but a girl can dream!
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 05:14:44 PM
Post by: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 17, 2010, 05:10:01 PMI walked into my therapists office the first time in near shock. By the end of the first session I was doing great. At the end of my second visit she told me she would have no issues writing me an HRT letter, however she told me I would have to wait 3 months as per SOC. When the 3rd month came by I had my letter.
I've only had one session but he seems great with the transgender issue. I was so scared going in, but he was so easy to talk to and hopefully I can get a letter this week. lol. I know I can't get one that soon but a girl can dream!
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 05:17:19 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 17, 2010, 05:17:19 PM
Quote from: cynthialee on July 17, 2010, 05:14:44 PM
I walked into my therapists office the first time in near shock. By the end of the first session I was doing great. At the end of my second visit she told me she would have no issues writing me an HRT letter, however she told me I would have to wait 3 months as per SOC. When the 3rd month came by I had my letter.
So I still have to wait three months! I can deal with that! =/
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: April Dawne on July 17, 2010, 05:18:42 PM
Post by: April Dawne on July 17, 2010, 05:18:42 PM
It will happen for you Kimberly I'm sure of it =]
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 18, 2010, 01:38:31 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 18, 2010, 01:38:31 AM
Thanks April. I just HATE waiting hahaha =/
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Inphyy on July 18, 2010, 06:04:18 AM
Post by: Inphyy on July 18, 2010, 06:04:18 AM
Sister like I always say, you already have a vagina but just like 6 pack abs, it's just hiding behind the fat cause it's a little shy! :angel: :angel:
You will always be KIM and no one can change that. No amount of hormones or surgery can change that. You are you in the end and that's what people should accept. Nothing more...Nothing less.
You will always be KIM and no one can change that. No amount of hormones or surgery can change that. You are you in the end and that's what people should accept. Nothing more...Nothing less.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 18, 2010, 02:07:41 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 18, 2010, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Yubel on July 18, 2010, 06:04:18 AM
Sister like I always say, you already have a vagina but just like 6 pack abs, it's just hiding behind the fat cause it's a little shy! :angel: :angel:
You will always be KIM and no one can change that. No amount of hormones or surgery can change that. You are you in the end and that's what people should accept. Nothing more...Nothing less.
Aww thanks. That's why I love this site. Everyone here knows who I really am, and it makes me feel a lot better. Then I get offline and I'm michael again =/
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Inphyy on July 18, 2010, 06:38:27 PM
Post by: Inphyy on July 18, 2010, 06:38:27 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 18, 2010, 02:07:41 PM
Aww thanks. That's why I love this site. Everyone here knows who I really am, and it makes me feel a lot better. Then I get offline and I'm michael again =/
But that is just the reality of things; For example, Britney Spears and Rihanna don't look the way they do when they wake up! They have a ton of makeup artists, hair stylers, clothes outfitters, etc. etc.
Everything in this world is sort of a "facade" in someway, it just depends on how real you seem to make it.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 18, 2010, 06:39:38 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 18, 2010, 06:39:38 PM
I know that haha. I just want long hair and boobs. :) and some high heels. I'll be good haha Plus when I come out, it'll be easier. I just want to be able to be seen as a girl by everyone.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Inphyy on July 18, 2010, 07:14:39 PM
Post by: Inphyy on July 18, 2010, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 18, 2010, 06:39:38 PM
I know that haha. I just want long hair and boobs. :) and some high heels. I'll be good haha Plus when I come out, it'll be easier. I just want to be able to be seen as a girl by everyone.
But sadly not everyone in the world, despite having boobs, longer hair, high heels and etc. etc. will see you as an girl I've had to learn it the hard way, no matter what you do...Surgery, FFS, legally change everything. Some people just won't see you as Kim...
Like RuPaul says, "You're born naked and the rest is drag...We all play roles and there's two types of people in the world, ones who know we're all just actors playing roles in the world and the ones who truly believe they are the role they are playing."
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 12:12:28 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 12:12:28 AM
True. I shouldn't say everyone. Maybe just myself. =/
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: SamanthaElle on July 19, 2010, 12:23:20 AM
Post by: SamanthaElle on July 19, 2010, 12:23:20 AM
Oh don't say that, if not everyone, almost everyone. And the people that don't, you probably don't want their opinion anyways.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 12:25:47 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 12:25:47 AM
Quote from: SamanthaElle on July 19, 2010, 12:23:20 AM
Oh don't say that, if not everyone, almost everyone. And the people that don't, you probably don't want their opinion anyways.
True. I don't really care how anyone see's or thinks of me. I just want to be happy with myself. I'll be fine then I'll look in a mirror and be like ughhh. =/
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Inphyy on July 19, 2010, 01:14:17 AM
Post by: Inphyy on July 19, 2010, 01:14:17 AM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 19, 2010, 12:25:47 AM
True. I don't really care how anyone see's or thinks of me. I just want to be happy with myself. I'll be fine then I'll look in a mirror and be like ughhh. =/
The only acceptance is that of yourself...No one else matters in the end besides you. If you can't accept yourself -- How in the world can you trust your own self?! Be you. Trust you. Love you and accept you and everything else will fall into place at its own due time.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 01:59:32 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 01:59:32 AM
I don't want to accept how I look! :( I guess I will in time. It just stinks. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Inphyy on July 19, 2010, 02:12:35 AM
Post by: Inphyy on July 19, 2010, 02:12:35 AM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 19, 2010, 01:59:32 AM
I don't want to accept how I look! :( I guess I will in time. It just stinks. :embarrassed:
But how can you expect other people to accept you if you can't accept your own self?!
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 02:14:07 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 02:14:07 AM
I don't .
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Griffin on July 19, 2010, 02:50:36 AM
Post by: Griffin on July 19, 2010, 02:50:36 AM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 13, 2010, 01:26:37 PMSo I'm curious are there any reasons I would not be allowed to transition? Should I worry?
I know I'm probably not supposed to be in here, but....
No one can prevent your social transition, ie living as your true self. You don't need letters to change your name, work as female, go to college, etc. I started my transition at 17 with no help at all and no money. At 16, my family doc hadn't said no exactly, but wouldn't give me hormones or a referral. He didn't even note it in the chart because of the stigma.
The reality is that there are enough doctors out there who specialize in trans care, that you could get in even without a letter and begin hormones. Some hormone docs use "informed consent" which means they prescribe without a letter. Once you're full-time, you can get hormones from an even wider network of doctors because most follow WPATH standards which allows it.
Totally an aside, but I've found that with non-trans friends/family who are curious, to give the impression that I am master of my own destiny. Most of my close friends just know that I qualify for whatever it is that I'm doing, since I have a doctor and surgeon. Most people know there are certain diagnostic criteria, but are fuzzy on the specifics. Saying that you are being treated or that a doctor is open to see you (true) is probably enough to satisfy their curiosity/fears.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 02:54:34 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 02:54:34 AM
Yeah that's what I told my friend. No matter what anyone tells me, I still feel like I'm a girl. Ever since I came to this realization, I've never been happier. Plus, saying I'm transgender feels right, compared to saying I'm a gay male. That never felt okay. And thanks for the info! :)
Post Merge: July 19, 2010, 02:55:48 AM
also, it's not that I don't accept the way I look, I just know I'm not supposed to look like a boy, and it makes me sad when I'm reminded that I do.
Post Merge: July 19, 2010, 02:55:48 AM
also, it's not that I don't accept the way I look, I just know I'm not supposed to look like a boy, and it makes me sad when I'm reminded that I do.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Griffin on July 19, 2010, 03:21:00 AM
Post by: Griffin on July 19, 2010, 03:21:00 AM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 19, 2010, 02:54:34 AMUnderstandable! Transition is all about doing what feels right. If transitioning feels right, and you want to try hormones, then go for it. If transition is right for you , then hormones will only increase the feelings of peace and rightness. =)
Yeah that's what I told my friend. No matter what anyone tells me, I still feel like I'm a girl. Ever since I came to this realization, I've never been happier. Plus, saying I'm transgender feels right, compared to saying I'm a gay male. That never felt okay. And thanks for the info! :)
also, it's not that I don't accept the way I look, I just know I'm not supposed to look like a boy, and it makes me sad when I'm reminded that I do.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 03:23:06 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 03:23:06 AM
That's how I see it. :D
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Griffin on July 19, 2010, 03:23:15 AM
Post by: Griffin on July 19, 2010, 03:23:15 AM
Transition is like a train headed one direction. There are lots of stops, and you can get off on any one of them. Once you're off the train, you can get back on and keep going, but you can't go backwards. So always really think about what you are feeling and what is right for you and you only :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 03:25:30 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 03:25:30 AM
I understand! I really don't think anything else could make me happier. Being a girl makes sense of so many feelings I've had my whole life.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: rejennyrated on July 19, 2010, 03:37:14 AM
Post by: rejennyrated on July 19, 2010, 03:37:14 AM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 19, 2010, 02:54:34 AMWhen people used to ask me what it was like before I always tell them I felt like a ghost, because despite looking in mirrors I could never see myself - just some imposter standing in my place.
Yeah that's what I told my friend. No matter what anyone tells me, I still feel like I'm a girl. Ever since I came to this realization, I've never been happier. Plus, saying I'm transgender feels right, compared to saying I'm a gay male. That never felt okay. And thanks for the info! :)
Post Merge: July 19, 2010, 01:55:48 AM
also, it's not that I don't accept the way I look, I just know I'm not supposed to look like a boy, and it makes me sad when I'm reminded that I do.
I knew that every time I met someone they did not see me. They saw a phantasm, and illusion, which they mistook for me.
Eventually, having had one taste of the delays involved with therapy, I got so desperate that I just transitioned without medical help.
As a result I made sure that the next time I went back to therapy I was presenting as 100% transitoned (past tense) female, in the hope that he had nowhere else to go with me but to write my surgical letter. I was lucky. I got sent to the surgeon on my first visit. He accepted that as I had done all the hard work without any help, there was only one thing he could do and that to make me wait for a year so that he could monitor a "formal" RLE was ridiculous.
Because I had changed all my docs over year before he could see that I had "done my time" even though it had been completely unsupervised. I admit I did take a huge risk in the way I handled my HRT without supervision, and I don't know that I would exactly recommend doing that, but as far as the transition to full time living is concerned yes I would do it again excatly the same.
You don't need a doctors permission to live as yourself, and whilst having the HRT makes it easier, it IS possible to do without. Back in the days before the internet it took me some while to find my ahem unofficial hormone supplies and during all that time I was cross living without them.
So if you want to transition I would say do it. At very least it will show your therapist that you mean business, and if you find someone who is sensible, it should lead to a swift issue of HRT at least, and hopefully SRS.
Oh and at 19 you are plenty old enough to do it.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 03:51:19 AM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 03:51:19 AM
Aww Jenny i love your posts! I plan to start transitioning as soon as my hair is long enough to style like a girl. HRT or not. I hope my instincts about my therapist are right. He seems really informed with trans issues and he spoke about working with some in support groups. He also said I'm not the most butch guy he's ever seen, which was nice haha.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: April Dawne on July 19, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
Post by: April Dawne on July 19, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
I think you make a great girl already, and HRT will only make things even better! Like many here, I can speak from experience. I was so angry and depressed and hateful and moody and often felt just dead and empty inside. Like I was sleepwalking through life or something. Nothing mattered. I didn't care about myself, didn't care if I lived or died. Once I started HRT all that changed. I felt alive. I was so GD happy and full of joy and love and .... well, inner peace I guess. All the bad negative emotions just melted away, and I felt a balance and serenity I had never experienced before. I had known for a long time that this feeling was there, under the surface, but I didn't know how to get to it or bring it up. Hormones took care of it for me. I just can't fully express how much I feel like a completely different, new, beautiful person full of love and compassion and light and joy. It's amazing sometimes how finding the right path can set you free. I finally love being me. You will too.
~April
~April
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 06:44:05 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: AprilDawn on July 19, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
I think you make a great girl already, and HRT will only make things even better! Like many here, I can speak from experience. I was so angry and depressed and hateful and moody and often felt just dead and empty inside. Like I was sleepwalking through life or something. Nothing mattered. I didn't care about myself, didn't care if I lived or died. Once I started HRT all that changed. I felt alive. I was so GD happy and full of joy and love and .... well, inner peace I guess. All the bad negative emotions just melted away, and I felt a balance and serenity I had never experienced before. I had known for a long time that this feeling was there, under the surface, but I didn't know how to get to it or bring it up. Hormones took care of it for me. I just can't fully express how much I feel like a completely different, new, beautiful person full of love and compassion and light and joy. It's amazing sometimes how finding the right path can set you free. I finally love being me. You will too.
~April
Aww wow. I feel the same way but I already feel a lot better just calling myself trans, rather than gay. :) I went to therapy today and I'm so excited to get through it! =D
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: April Dawne on July 19, 2010, 08:14:37 PM
Post by: April Dawne on July 19, 2010, 08:14:37 PM
I like being in a community of brothers and sisters =] it makes me feel all warm and bubbly inside =]
Of course, generally the goal of being trans is to fully transition, and then at some point drop the word "trans" and live the rest of your life as a woman or man.
I can't wait to get to the point of having SRS and finally being a complete girl I know I should have always been! I only regret not learning all this about myself many years ago.
If you ever have any questions, or need to talk, I'm willing to listen Kimberly =]
Of course, generally the goal of being trans is to fully transition, and then at some point drop the word "trans" and live the rest of your life as a woman or man.
I can't wait to get to the point of having SRS and finally being a complete girl I know I should have always been! I only regret not learning all this about myself many years ago.
If you ever have any questions, or need to talk, I'm willing to listen Kimberly =]
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 08:16:56 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 08:16:56 PM
I know I love it here! It's so nice to talk to other people who are in the same situation. And I can't wait to get SRS either!!!! =/ But idk I think I will always think of myself as a transwoman. Maybe I won't though. lol And thanks bb I'm here to listen if you need someone too <3
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: April Dawne on July 19, 2010, 08:21:23 PM
Post by: April Dawne on July 19, 2010, 08:21:23 PM
So do you identify as a straight woman? I think I might end up that way after SRS. My sexuality seems to be shifting as my transition continues to progress. I was only somewhat interested in men before, but that interest keeps growing and growing and I find myself not quite so attracted to women now as I used to be. I have heard that this happens sometimes, but I didn't think it would happen to me, so it's odd but interesting.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 09:24:58 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 19, 2010, 09:24:58 PM
yes, a straight woman. I've never been sexually attracted to girls at all. I love girls but I don't want to be with one. haha. I've heard of people's sexuality changing during HRT but I don't think that will be the case with me.
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Izumi on July 20, 2010, 12:34:24 PM
Post by: Izumi on July 20, 2010, 12:34:24 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 13, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
So I'm curious are there any reasons I would not be allowed to transition? Should I worry?
With all transition comes risks, i got denied by 2 doctors for HRT even with a letter from my therapist, because the reason to give HRT is based on the doctor's opinion. One doctor didnt want to give it to me because my health was bad (at the time, now i can run 6 miles in less then 1 hour easy). One doctor said she wouldnt give it to me because i wasnt coming to her office as a woman, to which i stated, HUH? I pass the minimum requirements for the standards of care so i qualify, she said i was wrong and i needed to live full time as a woman for 6 months. I said no and showed her, it was 6 mo RLE OR 6 mo therapy. She said well, i am going with 6 mo RLE. That pissed me off. Sure thats smart, give someone with depression, low self esteem and thoughts of suicide, and force them to dress up like a girl when he looks like a guy, so other people can point and possibly laugh at her, if that isnt a recipe for killing yourself i dont know what is.....
Finally got a doctor that said you qualify, and did some blood work and gave me a test shot jan 2nd 2009. From that i got a pretty good dosage, my body tolerates it well, and i dont suffer any negative effects.
So yeah you might get similar issues, also different HRT therapies might be rejected by your body, i know some people cant take pills because of liver issues, but shots are fine, or even the patch. You have to see what your body can handle.
I dont think you can be rejected for SRS unless its a health risk, like your already in bad shape and the surgery would have a high risk of killing you.
Post Merge: July 20, 2010, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 19, 2010, 09:24:58 PM
yes, a straight woman. I've never been sexually attracted to girls at all. I love girls but I don't want to be with one. haha. I've heard of people's sexuality changing during HRT but I don't think that will be the case with me.
Sexuality changed with me! I liked girls before HRT, slowly i liked them less and less then poof, guys. Yep being with a guy is normal for me as dating girls before, isnt the brain an interesting thing?
Title: Re: Not allowed to transition?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 20, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 20, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: Izumi on July 20, 2010, 12:34:24 PM
With all transition comes risks, i got denied by 2 doctors for HRT even with a letter from my therapist, because the reason to give HRT is based on the doctor's opinion. One doctor didnt want to give it to me because my health was bad (at the time, now i can run 6 miles in less then 1 hour easy). One doctor said she wouldnt give it to me because i wasnt coming to her office as a woman, to which i stated, HUH? I pass the minimum requirements for the standards of care so i qualify, she said i was wrong and i needed to live full time as a woman for 6 months. I said no and showed her, it was 6 mo RLE OR 6 mo therapy. She said well, i am going with 6 mo RLE. That pissed me off. Sure thats smart, give someone with depression, low self esteem and thoughts of suicide, and force them to dress up like a girl when he looks like a guy, so other people can point and possibly laugh at her, if that isnt a recipe for killing yourself i dont know what is.....
Finally got a doctor that said you qualify, and did some blood work and gave me a test shot jan 2nd 2009. From that i got a pretty good dosage, my body tolerates it well, and i dont suffer any negative effects.
So yeah you might get similar issues, also different HRT therapies might be rejected by your body, i know some people cant take pills because of liver issues, but shots are fine, or even the patch. You have to see what your body can handle.
I dont think you can be rejected for SRS unless its a health risk, like your already in bad shape and the surgery would have a high risk of killing you.
Post Merge: July 20, 2010, 12:37:40 PM
Sexuality changed with me! I liked girls before HRT, slowly i liked them less and less then poof, guys. Yep being with a guy is normal for me as dating girls before, isnt the brain an interesting thing?
Hopefully I won't have the same problems! I lost 50 lbs last year then since summer, I gained about ten and I'm working on losing that extra ten in addition to maybe 20 more, so hopefully I will be at my goal weight when I start HRT. I'm glad you got on hrt finally though, your transformation is amazing. You look gorgeous now! :) and I hope my sexuality doesn't change haha. I love boys too much :(