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i'm trying to change that about myself , giving up too easy , i don't actually know any other way really , so i wanted to see how other people deal with the 'giving up' thing
do you give up easy? or you used to be like that and changed it?
or have you always been persistent?
like when you see that things logically can't possibly lead to a 'win' how exactly can you proceed or have the power to?

my first major give up thought i can remember is back from my early teenage years , i thought like " if i am going to die anyway at the end why would i try to build anything if i'm gonna lose it anyway"
now i said that example so you get the picture of how far my tendency to give up goes , so.. any inputs?

I don't give up.  I had a pretty rough childhood:  I had to learn to walk again at the age of 4, I've had to overcome partial paralysis, and I've had to leave with numerous flare-ups that land me in the hospital.

I refuse to give up in anything now because I know if I can get over being paralyzed from the chin down I can get through anything else that life throws at me.  I've come too far to give up.

If I can't see if I can 'win' at whatever's thrown at me, I compromise.  If I know I can't do something, I compromise to do it to the best of my ability.

I don't give up....ever. I don't compromise easily. And I'm a pretty sore loser most of the time....

Unless it is video games. Then I just have fun and don't care whether or not I win or lose...

Quote from: eNTROPY on July 14, 2010, 10:02:38 PM
do you give up easy? or you used to be like that and changed it?
or have you always been persistent?
like when you see that things logically can't possibly lead to a 'win' how exactly can you proceed or have the power to?

Never easily, I've had my times and hated myself enough to change, persistent passed the point of annoying.
When logic dictates a loss, I'm at my best. I will change the level of logic up to another level, and proceed at that level. Persistence. And an overpowering need to win or beat the odds.
Doesn't mean that things always work out, but when it doesn't, I know that I at least took my best shot. It's not about having the 'power' to do something. It's more of realizing that losing isn't as bad as you imagine it could be.

When I throw in the towel, you better duck.

I have in the past thrown in the towel.  But this time there is no way in hell I am going to.

Stand tall and be yourself.  If you have to, leave family and friends to accomplish what you have to.

Hard to throw in the towel when they are all in the laundry.

 I wrap towels around peoples throats, then I throw them and the towel.

But seriously, make your plans and think through the strategy, test you ideas and think of plan B if there are going to be problems. Don't go in half hearted.  Most people fail at something like this because they think they are going to fail and accept failure when it looms; they expect therefore they are 'happy'. I never expect failure in a project etc, I will have plan B-Z in complicated projects because I plan for them.

Failure is not an option. It is a choice. I never choose it.

Cindy

I've always been pretty persistent, at least when it comes to ideas and such.

I figured if you're not going to do it all the way, partial efforts are a waste as they generally fail. Before I start something, I try to work out the whole thing so I don't miss something and have to quit because of a miscalculation.

For persisting, you just do. You just keep going, and it's not really more complicated than that. If you're not convinced now that your endeavor is worthy, something must have convinced you in the first place correct? Even if it was forgotten. Quitting has generally been a negative thing for me, maybe it's just reinforcement. My ego doesn't like it when I admit I was wrong by giving up.

You just need to see value in what you're going to do, for example the teenage years thought. There needs to be reason for you to live. Perhaps to enjoy yourself until you find a better reason? Then, not being completely self-centered (I think) you can build/create/whatever things to bring others joy. Or perhaps to satisfy your ego by proving to yourself that you are capable.

If things really look like they are impossible, don't pursue them. That would be stupid. But just be thorough and judge things carefully. Perhaps someday you will find something that means a lot to you, that's really the goal. Then you can go from there.

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Hmm it very much depends on the situation. In the past I easily gave up on my desires and dreams because I simply felt unworthy of them or not good enough to achieve them. That definitely changed and I go by a 'not taking the shot is always a miss' policy combined with 'if you're taking the shot you might as well make sure it's a good one'. However, I've also always been persitent in other matters; I get the job done at work no matter what and I'm not one to call in sick that easily. All with all it's a if I know I can do something I'll do it and I'll be damn stubborn about it.

Nevertheless, I also throw in the towel quite easily in other situations. Per example in arguments when the other person is unable to compromise. I just walk off then and tell them the conversation is useless. Thus, in other words; if I deem something completely useless I don't even bother with it and this usally involves social situations. Yep, I'm arrogant like that although it's more pdd-nos related.

I don't throw towels.  I roll them up and snap them at anyone in my way.

I also have many, many towels.  I am a student of Douglas Adams.

reading some posts i remembered that i actually used to be very persistent and so stubborn kid who never gave up and always had a plan. i think what changed that is i used to think that the future holds something for me , like i was sure that i will find something to live for , a goal , something i excel , and that i will have an effect on the world even as little as the light of a fading star in a very cloudy night ,this was enough reason for me to often do more that i possibly can, but i guess growing up and learning more about the facts of life ,that in fact there's nothing. or that the motivation i  had as a kid was based on wrong facts. idk something made me make sure that i'm always realistic and that i don't have false hopes , something made me not want or not interested in life as whole , hence too lazy or have no desire to nor enough patience to try again or for a long time
i'm changing that , i will , i just hope i don't lose my will to actually change it heh , which is a scenario that happens repeatedly with everything
i appreciate everyone's input , thanks

Failure is not an option. It is a choice. I never choose it.

Right on.