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Title: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: emil on July 26, 2010, 03:44:09 PM
Post by: emil on July 26, 2010, 03:44:09 PM
http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/images/binders/JUYA007W.jpg (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/images/binders/JUYA007W.jpg)
the material is super-soft and the binder does not feel tight at all anywhere. i can move! finally. when i first saw it and felt the material i was like "how is that supposed to bind?" i put it on, and it didn't feel like it was compressing. i looked at my chest in the mirror....and it's flat. probably not tri-top flat but double-front flat with the comfort of wearing....something like a silk top.
it came with no adjustable velcro though (even though on their page it says it has velcro), which i don't mind because the size is fine and i was warned that the velcro ones wear out faster.
yeah so this is binding that doesn't hurt at all, doesn't press your back into a weird position, and still works :) i will take some before and after pictures, also comparing it with my other binders, if requested
the material is super-soft and the binder does not feel tight at all anywhere. i can move! finally. when i first saw it and felt the material i was like "how is that supposed to bind?" i put it on, and it didn't feel like it was compressing. i looked at my chest in the mirror....and it's flat. probably not tri-top flat but double-front flat with the comfort of wearing....something like a silk top.
it came with no adjustable velcro though (even though on their page it says it has velcro), which i don't mind because the size is fine and i was warned that the velcro ones wear out faster.
yeah so this is binding that doesn't hurt at all, doesn't press your back into a weird position, and still works :) i will take some before and after pictures, also comparing it with my other binders, if requested
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Konnor on July 26, 2010, 04:14:03 PM
Post by: Konnor on July 26, 2010, 04:14:03 PM
Let's see pics!! :D
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on July 26, 2010, 04:30:52 PM
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on July 26, 2010, 04:30:52 PM
pics plz.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: insanitylives on July 26, 2010, 06:23:19 PM
Post by: insanitylives on July 26, 2010, 06:23:19 PM
"Tight multilayer spandex design allows for greater performance. Easy to put on and comfortable to wear. Great for athletes, can be worn as swimsuit."
haha what?
Pics, yes. And do you think this could work on someone of a larger chest size?
haha what?
Pics, yes. And do you think this could work on someone of a larger chest size?
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: emil on July 26, 2010, 07:53:01 PM
Post by: emil on July 26, 2010, 07:53:01 PM
honestly, the binder i wear under my swimshirt is the tightest i have (even though i read somewhere here that a wet binder binds just as well as a dry binder,,,but i wanted to make sure)
so i wouldn't recommend the binder i linked as a binder for swimming.
actually, i don't know about large breasts. mine are small but rather firm+perky. on the other hand the binder is on the large side for me and still binds surprisingly well.
pictures to follow.
so i wouldn't recommend the binder i linked as a binder for swimming.
actually, i don't know about large breasts. mine are small but rather firm+perky. on the other hand the binder is on the large side for me and still binds surprisingly well.
pictures to follow.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: notyouraverageguy on July 26, 2010, 09:26:30 PM
Post by: notyouraverageguy on July 26, 2010, 09:26:30 PM
Hmmm id like to see comparison pictures as well, &wondering also about it binding for non-small chested guys.
Might work better, since its designed for our bodies.
Might work better, since its designed for our bodies.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: no_id on July 27, 2010, 04:55:02 AM
Post by: no_id on July 27, 2010, 04:55:02 AM
It looks like the 801 model from T-kingdom without the zipper. Same material, same look... Interesting. ;)
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: emil on July 27, 2010, 08:31:43 AM
Post by: emil on July 27, 2010, 08:31:43 AM
nope, it's a different cut than the 801 from t-kingdom. the cut is sort of very low under my arms and the binder itsself really short. just mentioning because i think it might be an issue for larger-breasted folks.
i took the pictures but i think the binder is really a little large on me (i'm an XS but they only go down to S) so i 'll have it sewn tighter ...should be easier with this one since they didn't use that "flat seam" stitching technique.
yuck, okay, so before: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4833804641_e343c8c1f8_b.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4833804641_e343c8c1f8_b.jpg)
with my old (short double front, 100% lycra) binder:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/4833804653_1afe7bb3df_b.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/4833804653_1afe7bb3df_b.jpg)
tritop:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/4834439042_2e2c234330_b.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/4834439042_2e2c234330_b.jpg)
with the new binder:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/4833804643_228cbb3375_b.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/4833804643_228cbb3375_b.jpg)
i took the pictures but i think the binder is really a little large on me (i'm an XS but they only go down to S) so i 'll have it sewn tighter ...should be easier with this one since they didn't use that "flat seam" stitching technique.
yuck, okay, so before: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4833804641_e343c8c1f8_b.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4833804641_e343c8c1f8_b.jpg)
with my old (short double front, 100% lycra) binder:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/4833804653_1afe7bb3df_b.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/4833804653_1afe7bb3df_b.jpg)
tritop:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/4834439042_2e2c234330_b.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/4834439042_2e2c234330_b.jpg)
with the new binder:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/4833804643_228cbb3375_b.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/4833804643_228cbb3375_b.jpg)
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: no_id on July 27, 2010, 09:01:02 AM
Post by: no_id on July 27, 2010, 09:01:02 AM
Seems to work pretty damn well for you Emil :)
Not too sure if it'd work as well for larger breasted individuals because of the low cut under the arms. Looks like an invitation for more 'lumps'... Dum dee dum...
Not too sure if it'd work as well for larger breasted individuals because of the low cut under the arms. Looks like an invitation for more 'lumps'... Dum dee dum...
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Kohitsu on July 27, 2010, 09:04:20 AM
Post by: Kohitsu on July 27, 2010, 09:04:20 AM
Holy crap the results are amazing! o_o
I think when my Tri Top binders from Underworks wear out, I might just try that new binder!
I'm small chested as well so it should work for me. It's great to hear it's comfortable too!
I think when my Tri Top binders from Underworks wear out, I might just try that new binder!
I'm small chested as well so it should work for me. It's great to hear it's comfortable too!
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Zack on July 27, 2010, 09:07:53 AM
Post by: Zack on July 27, 2010, 09:07:53 AM
Think I'll try this binder out, looks pretty good.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Konnor on July 27, 2010, 10:18:39 AM
Post by: Konnor on July 27, 2010, 10:18:39 AM
Exactly how small chested are you? What size did you have in the tri-top?
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: insanitylives on July 27, 2010, 10:27:24 AM
Post by: insanitylives on July 27, 2010, 10:27:24 AM
Holy crap that's good. But yeah, it looks like with the short length it wouldn't work for me.
Still. Wow.
Still. Wow.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: emil on July 27, 2010, 11:53:00 AM
Post by: emil on July 27, 2010, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: konman on July 27, 2010, 10:18:39 AMi have an XS on the tritop and bra size is 32 B. I chose an S for the loveboat binder and it's a little large, so i am getting an inch taken out at the seams (half an inch would probably do but i always want to go as small as i can).
Exactly how small chested are you? What size did you have in the tri-top?
yeah that's another thing i wanted to add - it says on their site that you should get it a size larger because they run small, but personally i don't think so.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: notyouraverageguy on July 27, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
Post by: notyouraverageguy on July 27, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
Woah, it looks as flat at the tritop.. So what are the advantages/disadvantages of it compared to underworks binders?.. Any roll up, slide down, pop out issues?
I hope someone with a b/c cup can offer a review on this binder. Wonder if it'll work as well.
Post Merge: July 27, 2010, 02:49:11 PM
Im thinking maybe the extra strength velcro might work better for bigger chested guys.. I think you got the sports t-back, right?
I hope someone with a b/c cup can offer a review on this binder. Wonder if it'll work as well.
Post Merge: July 27, 2010, 02:49:11 PM
Im thinking maybe the extra strength velcro might work better for bigger chested guys.. I think you got the sports t-back, right?
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Elijah3291 on July 27, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
Post by: Elijah3291 on July 27, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
I have a few questions..
I was a little unsure at first because the model on the website is a tiny asian guy and well he probably doesnt have that big of a chest.. but in your pics you are about the size of me.
anyway.. what about jumping around, running.. I like my double compression underworks becuase it keeps things from bouncing around which I find really gross.. how does this new binder do?
how long did it take to get to you in the mail?
any other information we should know about it?
I was a little unsure at first because the model on the website is a tiny asian guy and well he probably doesnt have that big of a chest.. but in your pics you are about the size of me.
anyway.. what about jumping around, running.. I like my double compression underworks becuase it keeps things from bouncing around which I find really gross.. how does this new binder do?
how long did it take to get to you in the mail?
any other information we should know about it?
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: emil on July 27, 2010, 03:08:03 PM
Post by: emil on July 27, 2010, 03:08:03 PM
well as i said, the low cut arms might make larger sizes pop out maybe. I am getting mine back from the tailor tomorrow and will put it to the test this following week but i doubt that it will roll up since it seems too short for that.
i have yet to try it out while doing sports @Elijah, but will do that soon. I think the bounce-control of the double front and tri-top are better though. It took me 5 days to get it in the mail but i chose express shipping. I'm in Europe, but they list delivery times by country in the FAQs.
in terms of other information.....i think the binder is a great relief for days when i cannot bind with a tritop or double because my back hurts or i just don't like the discomfort it gives me at times. I would not necessarily recommend it as an only binder if you wanna look as flat as possible and feel as secure as possible. but i will really only be able to tell for sure once i get it back from the tailor. an inch less in circumference may make quite a difference.
@femboy: yeah i got the sports back one....the extra strength is made of tactel i believe
Post Merge: July 28, 2010, 10:15:01 AM
okay, now that it fits there's no more bouncing at all. i would still say the binding effect is about equal to the double front. i think it's a really good binder for sports, especially when you're going to the gym and can't really inhale well in your other binders, and one you can comfortably sleep in. i will probably still resort to the tritop when i'm going out wearing a fitted t-shirt or something
edit:
oh yeah, and it says on their site to get a size larger. i got an S and i have an X-small in Underworks and the S was too large, I had an inch and a half taken out for it to fit me.
i have yet to try it out while doing sports @Elijah, but will do that soon. I think the bounce-control of the double front and tri-top are better though. It took me 5 days to get it in the mail but i chose express shipping. I'm in Europe, but they list delivery times by country in the FAQs.
in terms of other information.....i think the binder is a great relief for days when i cannot bind with a tritop or double because my back hurts or i just don't like the discomfort it gives me at times. I would not necessarily recommend it as an only binder if you wanna look as flat as possible and feel as secure as possible. but i will really only be able to tell for sure once i get it back from the tailor. an inch less in circumference may make quite a difference.
@femboy: yeah i got the sports back one....the extra strength is made of tactel i believe
Post Merge: July 28, 2010, 10:15:01 AM
okay, now that it fits there's no more bouncing at all. i would still say the binding effect is about equal to the double front. i think it's a really good binder for sports, especially when you're going to the gym and can't really inhale well in your other binders, and one you can comfortably sleep in. i will probably still resort to the tritop when i'm going out wearing a fitted t-shirt or something
edit:
oh yeah, and it says on their site to get a size larger. i got an S and i have an X-small in Underworks and the S was too large, I had an inch and a half taken out for it to fit me.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Kohitsu on July 30, 2010, 07:38:25 PM
Post by: Kohitsu on July 30, 2010, 07:38:25 PM
This is great to know, thanks for the info! =)
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Lex on August 13, 2010, 02:45:50 PM
Post by: Lex on August 13, 2010, 02:45:50 PM
Just wanted to add my review on the binder too.
I'll admit that when I first read this, I thought it was way too good to be true BUT I figured that it was at least worth giving a shot, 'cause my Underworks binder started wearing out and I'm tired of being uncomfortable when I bind.
So, I ordered the Juya, had to guesstimate on the sizing though, because my weight and height don't match up on the chart. I got a large, and it fits quite nicely. Like emil said, it's really comfortable and when wearing it, I actually can breathe! I'll say that I'm definitely not flat in the same way as I am with my tri-top, but still completely passable. I've gotten 3 opinions on how it looks and everyone seems to prefer this binder over my old ones.
If I ever have to buy another binder, I'll more than likely order another one like this. 4.5 out of 5 stars.
-Lex
I'll admit that when I first read this, I thought it was way too good to be true BUT I figured that it was at least worth giving a shot, 'cause my Underworks binder started wearing out and I'm tired of being uncomfortable when I bind.
So, I ordered the Juya, had to guesstimate on the sizing though, because my weight and height don't match up on the chart. I got a large, and it fits quite nicely. Like emil said, it's really comfortable and when wearing it, I actually can breathe! I'll say that I'm definitely not flat in the same way as I am with my tri-top, but still completely passable. I've gotten 3 opinions on how it looks and everyone seems to prefer this binder over my old ones.
If I ever have to buy another binder, I'll more than likely order another one like this. 4.5 out of 5 stars.
-Lex
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Elijah3291 on August 13, 2010, 03:40:13 PM
Post by: Elijah3291 on August 13, 2010, 03:40:13 PM
thanks for another review.. id really like to be able to breathe during the day. next time I need a new binder I'm ordering from this site
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Konnor on August 13, 2010, 07:27:50 PM
Post by: Konnor on August 13, 2010, 07:27:50 PM
Hey Lex, would you mind telling us your height/weight/chest size? I'm pretty interested in this binder too, my tritop is dying haha. Seems pretty good from the reviews!
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Nygeel on August 14, 2010, 09:05:32 AM
Post by: Nygeel on August 14, 2010, 09:05:32 AM
I have one big question: how large is the binding material from top to bottom? My main problem with the T-kingdom binder was that the binding part itself was only about 7 inches from top to bottom, 14 inches from the seam at the shoulder to the bottom of the binding material.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: emil on August 16, 2010, 06:59:57 PM
Post by: emil on August 16, 2010, 06:59:57 PM
sorry, haven't managed to measure it out yet because the binder's in the laundry, but i can say it's short and i'm almost certain it's no longer than the 14 inches you were talking about. Mine is a small though.
Their website says you can always contact them if you need help with the sizing, though, and i know they have some binders of the same brand that looked longer in the pictures.
Their website says you can always contact them if you need help with the sizing, though, and i know they have some binders of the same brand that looked longer in the pictures.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Nygeel on August 16, 2010, 08:22:39 PM
Post by: Nygeel on August 16, 2010, 08:22:39 PM
I asked them and they said 14 inches for the long shirt...but I still don't know if 14 inches is the length of the binding material or from the seam at the top of the shoulder to the bottom of the binding material. I got really frustrated exchanging e-mails with customer support because there were huge miscommunications. They didn't understand what I was asking, I didn't understand why they were responding with what they said.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: emil on August 17, 2010, 08:13:40 AM
Post by: emil on August 17, 2010, 08:13:40 AM
oh ok :D well i found a measuring tape that has inches on it, and my binder is shorter than 14 inches top to bottom, but again, i'm the smallest size, and i don't know how long the binder would actually be in any other size. for my size, i like the low and short cut, but from what you're describing, i would really think you may need one of the longer binders. and unfortunately i don't know whether the binding area goes all the way down to the bottom of the shirt with the long and medium juya binders :(
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Nygeel on August 17, 2010, 06:29:18 PM
Post by: Nygeel on August 17, 2010, 06:29:18 PM
>.<
That still doesn't answer my question. I want to know just the binding material alone. If the binding area is about 7-8 inches then that's about the size of the binding area of the one I have (which doesn't do shizznat).
That still doesn't answer my question. I want to know just the binding material alone. If the binding area is about 7-8 inches then that's about the size of the binding area of the one I have (which doesn't do shizznat).
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: JosephKT on August 17, 2010, 06:37:45 PM
Post by: JosephKT on August 17, 2010, 06:37:45 PM
Have you used binders from T-Kingdom before, and if so how would you say they differ in feel? I like what I got from T-Kingdom, but it wearing down.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: emil on August 17, 2010, 06:40:27 PM
Post by: emil on August 17, 2010, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: Nygeel on August 17, 2010, 06:29:18 PMhard to say where the "binding area" starts but i'm gonna say 8 inches at the most, less than that in the back. again, this is referring to a size small.
>.<
That still doesn't answer my question. I want to know just the binding material alone. If the binding area is about 7-8 inches then that's about the size of the binding area of the one I have (which doesn't do shizznat).
bytheway i was answering to your posting prior to my answer, where you were saying:
Quotebut I still don't know if 14 inches is the length of the binding material or from the seam at the top of the shoulder to the bottom of the binding material, so i was letting you know the 14 inches referred to the length top to bottom.
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Nygeel on August 17, 2010, 06:46:40 PM
Post by: Nygeel on August 17, 2010, 06:46:40 PM
Dang. Then it'll be about the same as the T-kingdom. Frack!
D:
I just can't catch a break. And just realized that what I posted was nonsense. XD
D:
I just can't catch a break. And just realized that what I posted was nonsense. XD
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Ryuu on August 22, 2010, 08:54:51 PM
Post by: Ryuu on August 22, 2010, 08:54:51 PM
I just ordered the Jersey Mesh Velcro Short binder from this site. (it's one of the cheapest) I'll review it when I get it. ;D
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: HuntersandKings on September 29, 2010, 07:59:27 PM
Post by: HuntersandKings on September 29, 2010, 07:59:27 PM
How did you end up liking the jersey mesh ryuu?
Title: Re: the most comfortable binder ever
Post by: Ryuu on October 03, 2010, 09:28:44 PM
Post by: Ryuu on October 03, 2010, 09:28:44 PM
There was a screwup with the order, so it didn't actually go through. And a few weeks later I looked at my debit card balance and thought "wow, I have 40 dollars on here I didn't know I had! Awesome" and spent it. XD
Money management skills: I do not haz them.
Money management skills: I do not haz them.