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So, I want a nostril piercing, a hoop of course. I seen a guy on TV named Ryan from the Real world: new Orleans with one, and i thought it looked awesome!
But would you consider it masculine or feminine? Or in-between?

I really want one, but i dont want it to make my face more girly :\

I'd always take what someone is doing on TV as acceptable in the real world.

Tekla... we know that you do not approve of piercing.. but this thread is about whether they are masculine or feminine.  Not whether they make someone low class or not.

Personally I find it rude for you to say such things on a thread where obviously many of the posters, myself included have piercings.

In my opinion, nose piercings are pretty feminine.  Most of the nose/nostril piercings I've seen are on girls; and not just studs, but rings and hoops too.  I'd hold off on it if I were you.

Quote from: LucienOctopus on July 30, 2010, 08:42:37 PM
In my opinion, nose piercings are pretty feminine.  Most of the nose/nostril piercings I've seen are on girls; and not just studs, but rings and hoops too.  I'd hold off on it if I were you.

Thanks, i want to pass as much as possible.

I think it depends on what the piercing looks like. For example... diamond piercings just scream feminine, though I have seen only a handful of dudes with that type.

Most nose piercings look feminine to me regardless of what the ring is.

Quote from: Jacob on July 30, 2010, 08:44:02 PM
I think it depends on what the piercing looks like. For example, I think diamond piercings just scream feminine, though I have seen only a handful of dudes with that type.

It's not just that.  I mean, the most manly masculine guy on Earth could get a pretty pink nose stud and nobody would mistake him for a girl.  (They might question his taste and sexuality, but that's a different story ;P)  I just don't think it's a good idea to risk it when your ability to pass could be affected.

Quote from: Jacob on July 30, 2010, 08:44:02 PMdiamond piercings just scream feminine, though I have seen only a handful of dudes with that type.

Almost every guy at my last school had atleast one in there ear, usually one.

Nose rings do seem feminine tho. septum piercings and stuff varies by person

It depends on the person as well. But true, like you said it could affect ability to pass.

I want my septum done, my mother won't let me, she refuses. Although..i do have snakebites and she let me have those when i was 15.
I'll but a 16G ring and put it on my nose to see what it will look like

Lots of guys have piercings around here, i think a hoop would look great.  Imo just be yourself, if you like the piercing go for it.  I don't think a nose piercing is going to be the cause for passing or not unless it was a stud in the shape of a flower or something lol

If I see a nosering on someone who looks at all androgynous, I would probably assume them female.

- N

I know a girl with a nose piercing. Don't know any guys with them, but then again, I don't hang out with the kind of guys who get piercings.

I only know of one guy with a nose piercing, and its septum piercing and a large one at that... Kind of reminds me of a bull out of loonytoons. Ive also seen women with the same piercing but they use a smaller gauge and colors instead of stainless and a black ball, or stainless with stainless caps.

Every other nose piercing I've seen appears to be common on women, the gauge and style of the piercings seems to correspond with there sexuality but thats just a theory... so don't quote me on that.

I have a septum piercing and I always thought of it as masculine.

Quote from: DamienR on July 30, 2010, 10:31:18 PM
I have a septum piercing and I always thought of it as masculine.

yours looks great!

Quote from: LynnER on July 30, 2010, 10:21:14 PM
I only know of one guy with a nose piercing, and its septum piercing and a large one at that... Kind of reminds me of a bull out of loonytoons.

Yes, that is what I've always thought of them. I wonder if the owners of said piercings do as well.

Quote from: Silver on July 30, 2010, 10:42:57 PM
Yes, that is what I've always thought of them. I wonder if the owners of said piercings do as well.

I don't think I look like a bull. Kinda rude.

Did not say you look like a bull. It's the same piercing that the bulls on those cartoons always have, so they are brought to mind when I see a septum piercing.

Cool. Sometimes kids make the bull reference, and I think it's cute. I let them pull on it

Lol.

I always thought of septum piercings as a bull thing when i was little to, now i just like them and how they look.

Uh, I don't think I look like a bull either. And it gets old hearing that over and over.  ::) It's usually young kids who say that or old people >.>

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On another note, do you guys think stretched ears are more masculine or feminine? I often see girls with the smaller stretches and guys with larger. Although I have seen some guys with smaller stretches and girls with large stretches. /shrug

I'm at 3/4" right now, it's a pretty good size I think and I'm still able to find a decent amount of jewelry for that size.

I have a septum as well.  I don't think it looks very masculine or feminine... then again, it just seems like a part of my face to me now.  I don't think I look like a bull either, but I am wearing quite "un-bull-like" jewelry.  (A CBR with no ball)

As for nostril piercings, I know of plenty of guys who have them.  However, they do feminize your face.  You'll have to decide which is more important: piercing or absolute pass?

Septum piercings can be masculine especially if they are stretched but in my opinion nostril piercings are too feminine and will affect passing.

I don't really think any sort of piercing is exceptionally "masculine" or "feminine." If you want your nose pierced and think it will look good on you then go ahead and get it (professional piercer, not a mall kiosk type thing).

I used to want a lip piercing then I put a CBR on my lip so it looked like a piercing and realized it wasn't for me. I'm just going to stick with my 00g ears.

if you guys want to pass as guys and just blend into the male poplulation you need to leave the face jewellery to girls and punkrockers...at my gender clinic open meeting the FtMs were indistinguishable from the clinic staff with plain faces and male clothes.
spend the jewellery money on male clothes and aftershave.

Honestly, I don't get what the big deal about piercing is but you know, there are pretty regular guys out there with piercings so it's not a definite "out" or anything.

I want to get my tongue split, is that too feminine? heh heh No seriously, I want my tongue split.

Some people just don't get the whole body modification scene. I just think, how can you not like piercings, tats, and body mods? Yet I don't get the whole wanting to blend in and be a clean cut Abercrombie&Fitch clone thing either.

If I had to downsize my ears and take out my jewelry it would be like getting rid of part of who I am. It has just become a part of my identity. That and I really just like how it looks ;) I would be so miserable with no mods/tats/piercings and put in a pair of khakis and a polo. I kind of want to throw up thinking about that...

I never put in my opinion about a nose piercing. One nostril piercing is seen as usually feminine. A double nostril, like one on each side is neutral depending on the jewelry. Septum is neutral. Stretched septum is more masculine. And a bridge piercing is usually more masculine.

I'm off-topic, but the OP has been answered so that makes me feel better.

I understand tattooing and some other forms. Just not piercing, seems rather painful and doesn't look very attractive to me. I'm not trying to be a clone, I'm just not trying to be original, because a lot of those "originals" are pretty similar so it seems counterproductive. I'll just set my mind to more important matters in life.

Just comes down to personal aesthetic preferences I guess as to whether or not one "gets" body modification. I'm pretty sure we're all dissatisfied with ourselves enough that offered the ability to change anything we wanted, everyone would take that chance.

Quote from: Shade on July 31, 2010, 04:02:33 AM
If I had to downsize my ears and take out my jewelry it would be like getting rid of part of who I am. It has just become a part of my identity. That and I really just like how it looks ;)

I feel the same way, my mods are part of me, i'd have more if I wasn't so desperate for a job. Maybe i'm weird but I like it and it's not hurting anyone else so I don't care.  :)

Quote from: Silver on July 31, 2010, 04:12:30 AM
I understand tattooing and some other forms. Just not piercing, seems rather painful and doesn't look very attractive to me. I'm not trying to be a clone, I'm just not trying to be original, because a lot of those "originals" are pretty similar so it seems counterproductive. I'll just set my mind to more important matters in life.

Actually getting tattooed hurts a hell of a lot more than getting a piercing. You are being stabbed over and over with a bunch of little needles for an hour or more when you're getting a tat. You are stabbed one time for a split second for a piercing.

I'm not trying to be "original" either. I get body mods that I like and that make me happy. I don't get them for other people either. I couldn't care less if someone thought my piercings were ugly. Even if my boyfriend hated it, I'd tell him to suck it.

I just think trying to blend in with everyone else makes you (not you personally) like a clone. How boring!

If you think body modification is an unimportant matter in life, why even post in the thread. That statement was kind of rude. Some of my friends are tattoo artists and body piercers. They take their work seriously and consider themselves artists.

Well yeah, but I find them more aesthetically appealing. Cool, good that it's working out for you. Hmm. . . I felt a need to reply because it would be rude to just ignore you but there's not really anything left to say.

Um I don't know what your problem is, but thanks for the reply?

You see, we keep hitting against this same old thing.  Do we want to pass as men at all costs, or do we want to look like what we want to look like?  Personally, I would feel trapped if I were obliged to "blend in with the male population" and wear trainers and a t-shirt.  I would be pretending to be what I am not, yet again.

So, I think that nostril piercings tend to be worn by women but, if you like the look of it and are prepared for the fallout, go for it!  I have one from years back and I have yet to feel the need to get rid of it.

And I have to differ with Shade.  Tattoos are just vaguely irritating when they are being done.  But piercing a nose?  Yaaarrggh!  Makes your eyes water.

Quote from: Papillon on July 31, 2010, 04:38:43 AM
You see, we keep hitting against this same old thing.  Do we want to pass as men at all costs, or do we want to look like what we want to look like?  Personally, I would feel trapped if I were obliged to "blend in with the male population" and wear trainers and a t-shirt.  I would be pretending to be what I am not, yet again.

So, I think that nostril piercings tend to be worn by women but, if you like the look of it and are prepared for the fallout, go for it!  I have one from years back and I have yet to feel the need to get rid of it.

And I have to differ with Shade.  Tattoos are just vaguely irritating when they are being done.  But piercing a nose?  Yaaarrggh!  Makes your eyes water.

It just depends what area of the body you're getting work done on really. Big difference between your arm and your rib cage haha. The needle buzzing against your bones aaaahhhhhhgggg.

When I got my septum done my eyes didn't water at all and it didn't hurt one bit o.O. I had my nostrils done at one point, those made my eyes water though.

Quote from: Shade on July 31, 2010, 04:48:08 AM
When I got my septum done my eyes didn't water at all and it didn't hurt one bit o.O. I had my nostrils done at one point, those made my eyes water though.

My septum was pretty painful, actually it's probably the most painfull piercing i've had. I'm planning on getting it punched so i'm not too worried by pain.

Yeah, yeah Shade.  True.  My most painful tattoo so far was on my lower abdomen.  After an hour of that, I had had enough.  I am really not sure I would want to be tattoed directly over bone.  Eurrrrhhhh.

I have not had a septum piercing.  I am glad to hear it is less tear-inducing than a nostril piercing. *eyes water at the memory of it*

Quote from: Nathan. on July 31, 2010, 05:06:14 AM
My septum was pretty painful, actually it's probably the most painfull piercing i've had. I'm planning on getting it punched so i'm not too worried by pain.

Yikes, did they not go through your sweet spot? If they go through your cartilage by mistake, yea I heard that is stupid painful lol. Or on a scale of 1-10 an 11. -.-

It was pierced just above the sweet spot  :-X i'd do it again though as spetum piercings are my favourite.

doh! What gauge you getting it punched?

I'm thinking like 4 or 5mm so 6 or 4g.

ooo very nice :)

Maybe they'll let you keep the skin cookie in a little jar or something to freak your friends out with haha! <3 dermal punches.

I'm thinking of stretching to 10g maybe bigger, I'm not sure. It's just a 12g atm. My friend had hers stretched to...I think it was a 0g. It was insanely awesome.

I'm too lazy to read through the thread at the minute so I'm just gonna answer OP :P

I used to have a hoop through my nostril because I new a guy with one and it looked awesome. It was ok but it did make me look more fem. I then let it heal up and got my septum pierced instead, I think that looks awesome and definitely not fem in the slightest.

Quote from: Shade on July 31, 2010, 05:17:56 AM
Maybe they'll let you keep the skin cookie in a little jar or something to freak your friends out with haha! <3 dermal punches.

haha  :P

After my septum punch is healed I want my conch punched at 8mm/0g then I think i'll be done with punches.

I have had both my nostrils and my septum pierced, and my septum piercing was WAAAAY more painful. I have a high pain threshold and have given birth to three kids naturally and I gagged when I had my septum pierced because it hurt so much for about the first 15 minutes. Especially the clamp, which I had to get her to NOT use because I couldn't handle it.
I guess my nose is sensitive.

 :o It wasn't quite that bad for me.

Yeah.. I don't know why it was so bad. But if I had known I probably wouldn't have had it done. Love it now tho, and its stretched so i think it helps me pass.

To me, my transition and body modification are almost on an equal plane.  They will both help me towards expressing my true self.  I even get "unmodified" dysphoria.  ???  I suppose in this way I am androgynous, I feel like they will help me get out of the gender system. 

Quote from: Shade on July 31, 2010, 04:22:38 AM
Actually getting tattooed hurts a hell of a lot more than getting a piercing. You are being stabbed over and over with a bunch of little needles for an hour or more when you're getting a tat. You are stabbed one time for a split second for a piercing.

I love the feeling of get a tattoo!  It just felt like someone was running a vibrator at a really high speed on my arm, it didn't hurt in the least until about an hour later when I was driving.  Even then, the pain was awesome and I didn't mind.

But piercings make me cringe.  Even just getting my ears pierced hurt a lot more to me than getting a tattoo done.  I'd love a lip piercing, but at the same time I'm terrified of pain so I don't know if I'm brave enough to get one.

Well my lip piercing hardly hurt at all tbh.

Quote from: Nathan. on July 31, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
Well my lip piercing hardly hurt at all tbh.

I'm still scared.  I've got a bit of a low pain threshold and I really don't want to get it and then be bawling like a baby afterwards.

My snakebites didn't hurt at all, barely felt the nostril piercing. My septum hurt like all hell, the clamp, oh god the clamp. The first time the piercer did it wrong, it was in the wrong place and they sent me off anyway. A few days later i went back and demanded the manager re-do it properly and he did, hurt like hell again >:( but it's cool now.

First time I got my septum done it was wrong too, my fault really for not rearching piercers properly and going to a bad piercer but I was a piercing noob then.

I'm gonna jump in without reading the replies here and just say that in my opinion, a nostril piercing would definitely hinder passing. They're a very feminine piercing.

Quote from: Shang on July 31, 2010, 12:59:10 PM
I'm still scared.  I've got a bit of a low pain threshold and I really don't want to get it and then be bawling like a baby afterwards.

Haha you totally shouldn't worry. I think it's really common to get nervous before getting a piercing, but it goes so quick and is such a short pain.
My girlfriend has a very, very, veryyyy low pain tolerance (she passed out after getting her septum pierced) but got her lip done and said it didn't hurt at all, and everything went completely smooth despite how nervous she was.
I think lips are one of the more painless piercings.

I have my monroe done which is almost like a lip piercing, kind of, but either way I honestly couldn't feel it at all, it was very and quick and almost painless.


And also to address the main question of this thread, even though I think it's been mostly answered, I honestly don't think it would make you seem feminine. I think it all depends on how you wear it. I've seen lots of guys with nostril piercings and I think they look nice and in no way feminine. But that's just my opinion of course. Also when people see you the nostril piercing might not be the first thing they notice. If they see male clothes, a flat chest, short hair, an ultimately male appearance with a nose piercing, I'd say they're pretty much just going to think you're a guy with a few piercings!  :)

Yay peircings!!  I've had 13 done, but only wear jewelry in 6 right now.  I've had my nostril done 2 times, with a stud the first and a cbr the second, and definitely preferred the cbr.  I've known lots of guys with nostril rings and have never thought of it as feminine.

Lip was my most painful, followed by rook (inner ear cartiledge) and my conch.  My lip was only that bad because the ring my friend originally put in was too big (she was on her apprenticeship and I got it done for free at the shop) and we had to change it within 10 minutes of having it done.  The second ring wouldn't go in, so I ended up on the verge of tears with a death grip on the table while she was forcing it through my lip.

I love my piercings and tattoos and agree with what others have said.  They are part of what makes me me.

I find a little gemstone stud is very feminie

I think that a stud or ring in the side of the nose is pretty feminine, but a very thick ring through the septum (and yes, they make me think of bulls, sorry, grew up on a farm) looks pretty masculine.

This thread made me think of a convo I had with my brother the other day. We were talking about my hair, and I told him that I was thinking of growing it out and going all Jareth (David Bowie) from The Labyrinth, and he laughed and went, 'Oh god no! Here you are trying to be all masculine, and you want to have hair like David Bowie?! He's so effeminate!' to which I replied, 'I'm changing so I can be myself, not some male stereotype' which shut him right up. :P

I think a lot of us can get lost in the need to pass, and so give up things about ourselves that don't necessarily fit into the gender norms. It's a real shame. :(

I don't know if the OP's question is still on-topic, but I'll just answer it anyways..

I've actually seen a lot of guys with nostril piercings - not as many as women of course, but nose rings have been punk since the 80's. As long as you have any sort of facial hair I wouldn't worry about it affecting your passing at all.
I used to have a nose ring and long dreadlocks while pre-T, and they didn't make me pass any less than with no piercings and short hair.

It's certainly not masculine but it's not necessarily feminine either. Neutral.

I think of rings or hoops to be more masculine because I know of a couple cisguys with them and don't feel it makes them more feminine. I think that studs are generally more feminine, though.

It's not gender related. Both genders have Piercings!

I think they look icky for any gender.

Jennifer

One on the side of the nose, feminine. Septum piercings I see a lot on transguys (or maybe I just notice more because I spend more time looking at transmen...), but a thick gauge is pretty masculine. How old are you? Your mother shouldn't really be able to stop you from getting whatever you want pierced.
I'd go for a septum piercing myself, but my face is so small I'd look out of proportion XD

Like a bull = masculine

Stud on the side = girly

I had my septum done, looked better than people assumed it would. However I did get a few jokers who liked to touch it and knock on my face with it... to be honest that was funny to me though.

Anyways nose rings in my opinion look less feminine than studs, but I agree with that they usually look pretty feminine in general. Septum piercings don't really look masculine or feminine in my opinion, I've seen them on girls and guys...