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Title: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: Butterfly on August 19, 2010, 05:11:10 PM
Post by: Butterfly on August 19, 2010, 05:11:10 PM
We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Posted by David Parker Brown
19 August, 2010
http://blog.seattlepi.com/airlinereporter/archives/218649.asp (http://blog.seattlepi.com/airlinereporter/archives/218649.asp)
The thing is we are not all the same and even if we are, we still have a right to privacy. With my obvious dis-like (maybe that is too nice of a word) for the body scanners, I get people who write me in support and calling me fool. Recently I had a woman write me who is a pre-operative transsexual, meaning she self-defines as a woman, but still has male genitalia. It is absolutely her right to keep her situation private and no one should have the ability to invade her privacy. Talking about privacy, I will call her "Jane" to keep her anonymous for this blog.
Posted by David Parker Brown
19 August, 2010
http://blog.seattlepi.com/airlinereporter/archives/218649.asp (http://blog.seattlepi.com/airlinereporter/archives/218649.asp)
The thing is we are not all the same and even if we are, we still have a right to privacy. With my obvious dis-like (maybe that is too nice of a word) for the body scanners, I get people who write me in support and calling me fool. Recently I had a woman write me who is a pre-operative transsexual, meaning she self-defines as a woman, but still has male genitalia. It is absolutely her right to keep her situation private and no one should have the ability to invade her privacy. Talking about privacy, I will call her "Jane" to keep her anonymous for this blog.
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: Nicky on August 19, 2010, 05:25:36 PM
Post by: Nicky on August 19, 2010, 05:25:36 PM
People can look at me naked if they want to, I am good to look at ;)
I don't see this as a big deal, but I accept some people would find this an invasion.
I don't see this as a big deal, but I accept some people would find this an invasion.
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: JosephKT on August 19, 2010, 05:27:24 PM
Post by: JosephKT on August 19, 2010, 05:27:24 PM
I'm not trying to criticize or otherwise judge your opinions, they are entirely your right, I'm just curious. My understanding of body scanners at airports is that the scan is read at a completely different room away from the people who guide passengers through the scanners, do not show any of the genitalia (in fact from what I could tell at most showed a vague outline of underwear) and never shows the persons face and if nothing that looks like a weapon is found the picture immediately erased from the computer where is it viewed. Also, anyone can refuse the body scanning process to be and instead get the "traditional" pat down and metal scan instead. It has been some time since I was reading up and watching news segments on this, has the information I know changed?
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: Janet_Girl on August 19, 2010, 05:39:36 PM
Post by: Janet_Girl on August 19, 2010, 05:39:36 PM
Personally, I tuck well so I could careless. Let them do want they need to. But if they are guiding only women to the machines that is an invasion of privacy
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: childofwinter on August 19, 2010, 06:31:06 PM
Post by: childofwinter on August 19, 2010, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: Janet Lynn on August 19, 2010, 05:39:36 PM
Personally, I tuck well so I could careless. Let them do want they need to. But if they are guiding only women to the machines that is an invasion of privacy
Why would they only be guiding women to the machine? Controversial as these machines may be, they're for detecting weapons and most terrorists are men/male-bodied.
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: Vicky on August 19, 2010, 10:36:32 PM
Post by: Vicky on August 19, 2010, 10:36:32 PM
If they are, and for the reason you suggested, it constitutes an "Unreasonable (ie; no reason for it) search and is against the general concept of US law. They should NOT be sending ONLY women to such a scanning device. The suspicion is that male scanner monitors are getting a fringe benefit to their job that is neither moral or part of their union contract. (Getting their erotic jollies).
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: uni on August 19, 2010, 11:42:34 PM
Post by: uni on August 19, 2010, 11:42:34 PM
Being safe on a plane is more important than somebody's discomfort in being scanned. Transsexuals are not exempt from random scans out of fear that the person scanning (who has seen it all) will judge them. It is not an invasion of privacy. Everybody who choses to fly gives up some of their privacy as part of the agreement to fly safely much like medical professionals may know your conditions, but they are not allowed to share that information with just anybody or they can get sued in violation of HIPPA.
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: noeleena on August 20, 2010, 06:54:38 AM
Post by: noeleena on August 20, 2010, 06:54:38 AM
Hi ,
It appears the TSA is not telling the whole truth that images can be keeped & sent else where , & an other details is how much xray are you being put through .
Have a look at your, cnn , body scanners . & could lead to abuse by the operaters .
...noeleena...
It appears the TSA is not telling the whole truth that images can be keeped & sent else where , & an other details is how much xray are you being put through .
Have a look at your, cnn , body scanners . & could lead to abuse by the operaters .
...noeleena...
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: childofwinter on August 20, 2010, 10:06:23 AM
Post by: childofwinter on August 20, 2010, 10:06:23 AM
Quote from: Vicky on August 19, 2010, 10:36:32 PM
If they are, and for the reason you suggested, it constitutes an "Unreasonable (ie; no reason for it) search and is against the general concept of US law. They should NOT be sending ONLY women to such a scanning device. The suspicion is that male scanner monitors are getting a fringe benefit to their job that is neither moral or part of their union contract. (Getting their erotic jollies).
Where are people getting this "women only" idea from? If they were, I would be disgusted with such actions, but I haven't seen any mention of this.
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: Vicky on August 21, 2010, 12:52:29 AM
Post by: Vicky on August 21, 2010, 12:52:29 AM
Quote from: childofwinter on August 19, 2010, 06:31:06 PM
Why would they only be guiding women to the machine? Controversial as these machines may be, they're for detecting weapons and most terrorists are men/male-bodied.
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Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: childofwinter on August 21, 2010, 04:15:48 PM
Post by: childofwinter on August 21, 2010, 04:15:48 PM
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: JosephKT on August 21, 2010, 06:32:13 PM
Post by: JosephKT on August 21, 2010, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: Vicky on August 21, 2010, 12:52:29 AM
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I believe childofwinter was making a hypothetical question as to why would airport security only scan women to Janet Lynn's comment about what she would hind controversial, as opposed to why is airport security onlly scanning women, which is how people have interpreted the comment. Apologies to childofwinter if this is not the case.
Title: Re: We Do NOT Have All the Same Body Parts and Body Scanners Violates Your Privacy
Post by: childofwinter on August 21, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
Post by: childofwinter on August 21, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: JosephKT on August 21, 2010, 06:32:13 PM
I believe childofwinter was making a hypothetical question as to why would airport security only scan women to Janet Lynn's comment about what she would hind controversial, as opposed to why is airport security onlly scanning women, which is how people have interpreted the comment. Apologies to childofwinter if this is not the case.
That is the case, thanks.