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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUfN7ZcF5wY

I have nothing against plastic surgery whatsoever.  In fact, I wouldn't hesitate to say "go for it" if you can afford it.  However, IMO this is just way too much.
gender dysphoria?, body dysmorphic disorder? or both?

tinkerbell :icon_chick:

I've seen this before too.  She's apparently pretty famous.  I think she has a fixation for having procedures.  Can you imagine how much money has gone into that frame?  Wow.  Supposedly men dig it though.  Go figure.

It reminds me of the movie Brazil.  Did you ever see that film?  Oh yea... she looks so much like that dame who kept getting her face stretched.

Cindi

Sure!  Brazil....I'd forgotten about that movie...

On another note, she says:

QuoteI've had my lips done...

Really?  I hadn't noticed!!! >:D >:D

Yes, apparently she is very famous although I must confess that I'd never heard about her until tonight...LOL


tinkerbell :icon_chick:

Actually, as far as her appearance she looked pretty decent except those lips!  Jessica Rabbit has met her match!  Interesting though that after all she's done she still has a deep voice, albeit a more feminine version.

But I have heard of things like rib removal before.  So that didn't shock me.  I guess it's all about what makes you happy.

Julie

That gave me lip-phoria........scary







beth

She wouldn't have looked all that fake except for the lips and the boobs. I can't really fault her for wanting big jugs but those lips look like they could suck the paint off a car!

They're like, lips to sink nations.  :o

I was kind of suprised at the voice, too, if only because she'd gone to such great lengths with everything else.

I'm really jealous of her legs, though!  ;)

Those lips are the stuff nightmares are made of.  She must have had some kind of implants to make them that big.  

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857) Kristi

Quote from: angelsgirl on December 15, 2006, 12:06:31 PM
I can't really fault her for wanting big jugs but those lips look like they could suck the paint off a car!

ROFL!!!!!

With all that's been done, you'd think she would have gone for some kind of voice surgery.

Melissa

Quote from: Tinkerbell on December 14, 2006, 11:46:43 PMgender dysphoria?, body dysmorphic disorder? or both?

Gay male drag queen, not TS, IMHO. She's parodying women, not BEing one. Ridiculous lips, ridiculous breasts...

Quote from: Kate on December 15, 2006, 03:55:47 PMGay male drag queen, not TS, IMHO. She's parodying women, not BEing one. Ridiculous lips, ridiculous breasts...

Yeah, check out that makeup. :o

Melissa

Quote from: narrator...her big secret, she used to be "he"

Secret?  Sorry but with that voice....there is nothing you can hide from... >:D


tinkerbell :icon_chick:

P.S.  I think I am going to follow the steps of catwoman.....Male to female feline transkittysexual... :P

Ok this is definitly overblown. Still sounds masculine too and the lips just waaay to big. I would say she looks like a store manican.  Everything just way to big.  

My two cents


Owen

Love being female :angel:

Everyone should have a hobby and should be allowed to.  I guess I have no room to throw stones, but I'm sorry, I agree with Kate - that is ridiculous.

Susan Kay

Quote from: SusanKay140 on December 16, 2006, 01:15:27 AMEveryone should have a hobby and should be allowed to.  I guess I have no room to throw stones, but I'm sorry, I agree with Kate - that is ridiculous.

I agree, I mean, to each their own, I don't care what she did/does - that's what drag queens do, exaggerate effeminacy to make fun of it... it's all part of the "show." But I don't like that she's being portrayed as a "transsexual" on a national television program, reinforcing innaccurate stereotypes of what this is all about.

Maybe a wee bit over the top :icon_yikes:, but who am I to throw stones?  Actually, the proportion of lips to face reminded me a bit of Carol Channing!

Chaunte

Good on her; her life, not mine. I quite liked her... she seemed quite down to earth all things considering.

And as far as it reflecting on our community, stereotypes and extreme cases of many marginalised groups make popular television. Wishing it wasn't so is idealistic, not realistic.

However, she'll always be known as a TS, which I would wager many of us aren't that keen on. Famous for being famous etc. But if I had (or was given) that sort of money, I wouldn't spend it on that degree of body-modification... just some of it.  ;)

Well, I just found another video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO1V5UcaPxg



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tinkerbell :icon_chick:

 :eusa_doh: There is no accounting for taste...  :eusa_wall:

Chaunte

Wow those lips are something else. I have to wonder if she is just enjoying being herself or if there is something else going on between those ears. As long as she is happy I guess, but I'd lay odds she sees something very different in the mirror than we see when we look at her.

Of course, every community has it's members that go to excess:

Men
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg6.picsplace.to%2Fimg6%2F25%2Fthumbs%2Fbodybuilders.JPG&hash=b91373575c145580add46dda866624de160c3b9b) (http://img6.picsplace.to/img.php?file=img6/25/bodybuilders.JPG)

GG
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg6.picsplace.to%2Fimg6%2F25%2Flarge_20breasts_small.jpg&hash=8b7b7a30a83a52aae99af2bf369af20d7ade489f) (http://picsplace.to/)

And we even see it in the animal kingdom.
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I dunno abut her proclaiming herself the worlds #1 Transexual though, I had always kinda pictured that person to be the last one anyone would have expected.

~Mandy~

Hrmm, I seem to recall a post not long ago about how it doesnt matter what the person looks like. I argued that to the point of frustration. I will be the first to say I dont want this person in that video representing me or the transsexual community because I think she is a Transvestite/Drag Queen, yet there are several that have posted in this thread making fun of this person that said in the other thread "how you identify is the only thing that matters, and I should respect that". Its not what you look or sound like because some will never pass. If they say they are transsexual, they should get the respect and support of society and especially get it from this community. Yet everybody here seems to be a critic. I have nothing against TV/DQ's, I just dont understand them, but they are not Transsexuals nor should they be representing Transsexuals.

So this person has big lips...so what? So this person sounds like a man...so what? This person looks awful in my book and is representing a false projection of Transsexuals. I argued that one should look like a normal woman or male in the transsexual community to represent the community. I got a lot of flack for saying that in that thread, yet in this very same thread, some of those very same ppl that gave me flak for saying that somebody looked like a man in a dress will not be accepted by society and damage the transsexual community have seen fit to point out this persons flaws by outing certain aspects of her face, body, or voice. If this person says she/he/it is transsexual then EVERYBODY that is making fun of her right now that argued the point of "looks do NOT matter but ONLY how you identify", are walking on the thin ice of hypocracy. In fact, several of you have already broken through.

I stand my ground. This person is a freak, ghoulish, and horrid looking. I wished she would shut up, get
FFS and remove those lips and fix whatever else, tone down the breasts and stop touting herself as the most popular Transsexual ever. OMG whut Ever, she is doing nothing but damage.

I'm not mad or upset, I just thought I would point this out.

I just wish she wouldn't call herself a transsexual anymore.  I would venture to say that she also has some form of BDD (Body Dysmorphic Disorder) and that is what most of the changes are from.  I have no problem with somebody looking like how they want to look, but it's the fact that they are associating themselves with the transsexual community.  By the way she looks, I would say she belongs in the dragqueen community just as I think Rupaul does.  It's very unfortunate though.

Melissa

Obviously a drag queen. This is what they do, IMHO: over-the-top, ridiculous, LOOK AT ME EVERYONE! (and often mean-spirited) parodies of women... not identifying as one.

Kate

Crazy-ness..
hehe
:o
Ricki

Quote from: Kate on February 23, 2007, 08:31:10 AM
Obviously a drag queen. This is what they do, IMHO: over-the-top, ridiculous, LOOK AT ME EVERYONE! (and often mean-spirited) parodies of women... not identifying as one.

Kate

However, since she's had SRS and is happy with that, I'll call her a she.  Well, I guess I call drag queens "she" because that's what they prefer when in drag.  I am generally respectful of people no matter how far out there they are.

Melissa

Quote from: Lori on February 23, 2007, 07:23:53 AM

I stand my ground. This person is a freak, ghoulish, and horrid looking. I wished she would shut up, get
FFS and remove those lips and fix whatever else, tone down the breasts and stop touting herself as the most popular Transsexual ever. OMG whut Ever, she is doing nothing but damage.

I'm not mad or upset, I just thought I would point this out.

Well Lori you can stand your ground if you wish. But I think this woman should shut up and quit saying that she's the world's most popular transsexual!  I whole heartedly agree with you. 

I too feel very uncomfortable when some eccentric sort pretends to represent us.  I'm just a normal person who tries not to stick out in a crowd.

By the way... that picture of the woman above....  Is that a water bottle? ;)

Cindi

that's the [scariest] plastic surgery [disaster] i've ever seen.   :o
i think that some ts women and gg's get so obsessed with looking [perfect] that they [lose all ability] to see themselves [objectively]. while we might look at them and think that their face looks [destroyed], all they can see when they look in the mirror is that their nose could use a little more [refinement], that there's a wrinkle under their eye that needs to go away, that their face looks too masculine,and things like that. they're incapable of seeing the big picture. it's very sad.

My father saw her on some news show right around the time everything started going down hill....  He somehow mistook what that person did with what I am doing.... *sighs*  theres no accounting for stupidity in people though, and he was just waiting for a reason to fight and to hate so  *Shrugs*  Thankyou dateline or whatever  (No I didnt even bother watching the videos)

Quote from: LynnER on February 28, 2007, 04:39:14 AM
My father saw her on some news show right around the time everything started going down hill....  He somehow mistook what that person did with what I am doing.... *sighs*  theres no accounting for stupidity in people though, and he was just waiting for a reason to fight and to hate so  *Shrugs*  Thankyou dateline or whatever  (No I didnt even bother watching the videos)

See, that's the kind of damage some of these idiots can cause just by "choosing" to use the term "transsexual" when they clearly are not at this point.  I think this person went from transsexual to dragqueen w/ permanent modifications.

Melissa

what can I say?  trash in - trash out

Dear Tink,

As always thanks for an interesting post.  This lady loves to be the center of attention.  She wants you to go WOW.  She is a sensation.  She craves attention.  She is an icon.

Others of us would prefer to feel accepted and just fit in.  500 surgeries seems excessive.  Maybe 50 is O.K. ;)  (She does have a nice figure.)

W

 :o  She's very scary!  :o

FYI: Amanda Lepore [the person in the you tube clips] is Post-Operative. So, she either had lots of bread to get the SRS or she did jump through the same hoops as all TSes have to. I guess the former seems plausible, but the latter has not been falsified to me since I know many GGs that would made Amanda Lepore's visual presentation look butch. o_O

-- Bridget

Quote from: Kate on February 23, 2007, 08:31:10 AM
Obviously a drag queen. This is what they do, IMHO: over-the-top, ridiculous, LOOK AT ME EVERYONE! (and often mean-spirited) parodies of women... not identifying as one.

Kate

i concord.  definitely a [parody] of a woman.  i [dont] care if people have one or a thousand surgeries.  plastic surgery's supposed to make you [look] better, not ridiculous.

   I think the broad is an eccentric. She is all about being in her bubble world and bringing in money by selling her outrageuosness. That's okay for me as long as she doesn't murder people to get what she wants. Remember, there would be no change in the mainstream [of anything] if there weren't people out on the fringe.
   I can't make judgements on the person, but I worry that 20 years from now, she will be suffering from the excess. That much surgery must mess you up when your body naturally ages.

   I don't know how you find all this stuff, Tink, but I might try to put a temporary block on your internet access.   ;)    kidding


Peace,

Rebecca O' the Fog

Quote from: RebeccaFog on March 31, 2007, 11:38:17 AM
   I think the broad is an eccentric.

The broad, eh?  what broad?  >:D

Quote from: RebeccaFogI don't know how you find all this stuff, Tink, but I might try to put a temporary block on your internet access.    ;)    kidding

Awww, I know you love my posts!  if you try to put a temporary block on my internet access, I'm going to send you a Picasso painting!  >:D  Yeah, I still remember!  ;) ;D

tink :icon_chick:

My response goes something like this:

"Wahh!"   Or maybe, "ngah!!!"
Can you imagine coming around the corner and seeing her face to face?

People have surgery to correct problems like that.

She was in town a month or so back with her rapper BF.
One of those cases where you just have to go, "whatev," and walk away.