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Title: Androgyny History in Allure
Post by: Cindy Stephens on November 26, 2010, 02:57:25 PM
I just happened to run across an interesting history of androgyny in the Nov. issue of Allure.  They usually do a one page history of something like eyeshadow, high heels, bras etc. every month.  I have often found them to contain interesting obscure references that make me realize how connected, though hidden, we are. 
Title: Re: Androgyny History in Allure
Post by: rite_of_inversion on November 26, 2010, 09:09:48 PM
no haz linky? :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Androgyny History in Allure
Post by: Flan on November 26, 2010, 09:35:43 PM
only thing i saw on the web site was this in http://www.allure.com/beauty/blogs/reporter/2009/12/a-brief-history-of-beauty.html (http://www.allure.com/beauty/blogs/reporter/2009/12/a-brief-history-of-beauty.html)

QuoteIn 1823, a British professor named William Buckland discovered a skeleton covered in red ochre and surrounded by ivory jewelry in a cave in Wales. Buckland assumed the bones dated to the Roman period and concluded the woman was a prostitute because she wore jewelry. But it turns out "she" was actually a high-ranking man, perhaps a warrior or hunter, who had been buried 27,000 years ago.
Title: Re: Androgyny History in Allure
Post by: Cindy Stephens on November 27, 2010, 01:07:49 PM
Well, you can tell I'm really old!  I actually post references that aren't on the web.  Must be a bit shocking, huh?  I once did a 50 page paper on unfunded pension liabilities with a very large bibliography (around 35-40 citations) and none of it was on the web,  because the web hadn't been INVENTED!  You kept little 3x5 note cards, that is how it was done.  Seriously, I have a subscription to Allure and had torn out that particular article to give to my wife who tends that way.  You might run into the November issue someplace.  Further note, Allure often has androgynous women in slightly feminized mens type clothing, often acting amorously toward extremly fem women in both ads and story lines.  Very sexy to me, but have seen letters to editor condemning it.
One of the Historical personages they mentioned was Queen Christina of Sweden, raised as a boy and who dressed in both men's and women's clothing.  Often at the same time. 
Title: Re: Androgyny History in Allure
Post by: Virginia on November 28, 2010, 09:17:19 PM
I saw that article and it was great, a bio female emphasis but still really good. I read Allure cover to cover every month and that is my favorite column!
Title: Re: Androgyny History in Allure
Post by: LilDoberman on November 30, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
I'm old too cindy (well, oldish lol) and may have to subscribe.  I had no idea allure was a bit ando-friendly.