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Title: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Sada on December 13, 2010, 12:49:30 AM
Post by: Sada on December 13, 2010, 12:49:30 AM
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Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: MillieB on December 13, 2010, 01:47:45 AM
Post by: MillieB on December 13, 2010, 01:47:45 AM
I don't really know too much on the subject but could it be that it has thrown your hormone levels out of whack a little and will take some time to settle down? Either way I hope that you are feeling better soon :)
TC M x
TC M x
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Muffin on December 13, 2010, 01:48:08 AM
Post by: Muffin on December 13, 2010, 01:48:08 AM
I recently had to go under a general anaesthetic for something unrelated and even now seven days later I still feel crappy, I should feel great but I feel blah. I thought I'd heard something about post anaesthesia depression but I couldn't find anything online... of course assuming you had a general etc. :P
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: CaitJ on December 13, 2010, 02:00:41 AM
Post by: CaitJ on December 13, 2010, 02:00:41 AM
Had SRS three weeks ago; had one day where I felt pretty down, but otherwise I've been feeling great. Expecting a few more down days over the next couple of weeks, it's normal after having a general anaesthetic.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: CaitJ on December 13, 2010, 02:13:28 AM
Post by: CaitJ on December 13, 2010, 02:13:28 AM
Quote from: Sada on December 13, 2010, 02:09:49 AM
I just don't know something feels out of sorts. I didn't have any problems with the other surgery. . . I feel sad, but I don't know why. ???
That's pretty common - and can last 2-3 months, but generally goes away after 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Muddy on December 13, 2010, 02:19:05 AM
Post by: Muddy on December 13, 2010, 02:19:05 AM
Any sort of surgery is just hell on the body.
It throws a lot of your biochemistry out of whack. Your body spends a lot of time pumping you full of endorphins and other hormones, in an attempt to alleviate pain. Its a lot of hormonal up and down, following any invasive surgery.
Take care of yourself, stay well-hydrated, eat plenty of healthy foods, and stay active within the limitations of your surgeon's recommendations.
It throws a lot of your biochemistry out of whack. Your body spends a lot of time pumping you full of endorphins and other hormones, in an attempt to alleviate pain. Its a lot of hormonal up and down, following any invasive surgery.
Take care of yourself, stay well-hydrated, eat plenty of healthy foods, and stay active within the limitations of your surgeon's recommendations.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: lilacwoman on December 13, 2010, 04:33:03 AM
Post by: lilacwoman on December 13, 2010, 04:33:03 AM
I felt great aftre my orchie...no more testo
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: spacial on December 13, 2010, 06:38:29 AM
Post by: spacial on December 13, 2010, 06:38:29 AM
Sada.
Pain killers can often mess up our emotions.
Perhaps ypu could take some time out to reflect on why you did this and what you hope to achieve. Depression is generally a pain, but if you can use it constructively, then all the better.
As you say, you are a bubbly sort. So a bit of self reflection probably isn't something you do very often.
Pain killers can often mess up our emotions.
Perhaps ypu could take some time out to reflect on why you did this and what you hope to achieve. Depression is generally a pain, but if you can use it constructively, then all the better.
As you say, you are a bubbly sort. So a bit of self reflection probably isn't something you do very often.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: regan on December 13, 2010, 06:51:45 AM
Post by: regan on December 13, 2010, 06:51:45 AM
Quote from: Sada on December 13, 2010, 02:47:16 AM
That doesn't sound to good. I left a message for the Doc to buzz me back, but he is a surgeon not a hand holder.
Ah, but if he's a good surgeon he's a hand holder too. He should have enough experience to be able to tell you if what you're experiencing is a effect of the general anesthetic or if its something to be more concerned about. If he doesn't phone you back, call again until you speak with him.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Robert Scott on December 13, 2010, 10:02:32 AM
Post by: Robert Scott on December 13, 2010, 10:02:32 AM
I just learned at my transgroup last week that the period immediately following any surgery for trans stuff is the highest attempts of suicide...its why many doctors require therapy so that your therapist can make sure you have a support system in place.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Nero on December 13, 2010, 10:47:46 AM
Post by: Nero on December 13, 2010, 10:47:46 AM
I felt depressed for no reason following my top surgery. It was bad. It went away after a few days/week. I think it was the anesthetic.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: regan on December 13, 2010, 10:48:34 AM
Post by: regan on December 13, 2010, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: Rob on December 13, 2010, 10:02:32 AM
I just learned at my transgroup last week that the period immediately following any surgery for trans stuff is the highest attempts of suicide...its why many doctors require therapy so that your therapist can make sure you have a support system in place.
That makes sense...if there's any ounce of doubt, there will be loads of "what did I just do?" afterward.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Nero on December 13, 2010, 11:04:50 AM
Post by: Nero on December 13, 2010, 11:04:50 AM
Quote from: Rob on December 13, 2010, 10:02:32 AM
I just learned at my transgroup last week that the period immediately following any surgery for trans stuff is the highest attempts of suicide...its why many doctors require therapy so that your therapist can make sure you have a support system in place.
Post-any surgery can cause depression though. Of course, someone who was suicidal beforehand may get really down and think there's no hope.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: spacial on December 13, 2010, 02:45:22 PM
Post by: spacial on December 13, 2010, 02:45:22 PM
Dee_pntx
Really sorry to hear of that succesion of misfortune.
Take care love.
Really sorry to hear of that succesion of misfortune.
Take care love.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: lilacwoman on December 13, 2010, 05:06:59 PM
Post by: lilacwoman on December 13, 2010, 05:06:59 PM
depression after trans-related surgery? dunno where you get that idea.
I travelled down to Tunisia - that's in North Africa - for my boob job and hair transplants and it was a wonderful time among lovely people who had never seen a white transsexual before.
Once home everyone was delighted and made sure I got straight back into socialising.
I'm giving serious thought to going down there again for a vacation next year.
I travelled down to Tunisia - that's in North Africa - for my boob job and hair transplants and it was a wonderful time among lovely people who had never seen a white transsexual before.
Once home everyone was delighted and made sure I got straight back into socialising.
I'm giving serious thought to going down there again for a vacation next year.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: CaitJ on December 13, 2010, 11:27:51 PM
Post by: CaitJ on December 13, 2010, 11:27:51 PM
Quote from: lilacwoman on December 13, 2010, 05:06:59 PM
depression after trans-related surgery? dunno where you get that idea.
It's common after ANY surgery. It's a common side effect of general anaesthetic.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Renate on December 14, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
Post by: Renate on December 14, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
Quote from: CaitJ on December 13, 2010, 11:27:51 PM
It's common after ANY surgery. It's a common side effect of general anaesthetic.
That's why I would avoid general anesthesia if at all possible.
Spinal anesthesia is easier on your system and they don't shove a tube between your vocal cords.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Muffin on December 14, 2010, 07:51:26 AM
Post by: Muffin on December 14, 2010, 07:51:26 AM
I've been thinking about this a bit recently. I haven't heard many people talk about it but I assume at some point days before srs they discuss this and give you the option between the two. The thought of having a spinal needle thing scares the crap out of me but not as much as possibly being sickeningly depressed post-op :-/ ......if this is true I'm glad I have at least three months to weight up those options/getting over my fear of fat-ass needles being curved around my spinal cord instead of less than 48hrs. :P
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Nero on December 14, 2010, 12:34:13 PM
Post by: Nero on December 14, 2010, 12:34:13 PM
Yeah, the depression's tough (of course it could hit people in varying degrees and ways), but worth it. It may help remembering it's only a side effect and will go away.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: lilacwoman on December 14, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
Post by: lilacwoman on December 14, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
I don't actually remember being asked if I wanted general or spinal in any of my surgeries and I think in UK its generally assumed that general will be given.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Riannah on December 14, 2010, 06:16:27 PM
Post by: Riannah on December 14, 2010, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: lilacwoman on December 13, 2010, 05:06:59 PM
depression after trans-related surgery? dunno where you get that idea.
I travelled down to Tunisia - that's in North Africa - for my boob job and hair transplants and it was a wonderful time among lovely people who had never seen a white transsexual before.
Once home everyone was delighted and made sure I got straight back into socialising.
I'm giving serious thought to going down there again for a vacation next year.
Are boob jobs more affordable in Tunisia? I wanna go to Tunisia anyway, and I want a boob job too :)
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Muffin on December 14, 2010, 08:31:09 PM
Post by: Muffin on December 14, 2010, 08:31:09 PM
With a spinal you are still unconscious they just use a lighter safer dose to knock you out and concentrate the heavy stuff locally where it's needed. I've only heard one doctor that does offer the option so maybe it's surgeon by surgeon.
It kinda feels like a catch 22 (if you hate big needles that is).. I just worry that it's already going to be extremely tough to go through and adding another layer of differcult will just be very blah ish. :-/
Saying that I'll no doubt go the general >___<
It kinda feels like a catch 22 (if you hate big needles that is).. I just worry that it's already going to be extremely tough to go through and adding another layer of differcult will just be very blah ish. :-/
Saying that I'll no doubt go the general >___<
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Renate on December 14, 2010, 09:32:45 PM
Post by: Renate on December 14, 2010, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: Muffin on December 14, 2010, 08:31:09 PM
With a spinal you are still unconscious ...
The spinal itself just causes you to be without any feeling below the waist.
By itself you would still be wide awake, but they slip a Mickey Finn in your IV and you nod off.
I'm not trying to scare anyone, but you might wake up during the operation.
You probably won't care about anything and if you are quiet they'll probably leave you alone.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Muffin on December 14, 2010, 09:55:37 PM
Post by: Muffin on December 14, 2010, 09:55:37 PM
Yeah sorry I can see now how that was misleading yeah.. I dunno it seems pretty self explanatory/obvious.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: CaitJ on December 14, 2010, 11:39:55 PM
Post by: CaitJ on December 14, 2010, 11:39:55 PM
Quote from: Renate on December 14, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
That's why I would avoid general anesthesia if at all possible.
Spinal anesthesia is easier on your system and they don't shove a tube between your vocal cords.
No reputable surgeon would ever do only a spinal anaesthetic for SRS.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: lilacwoman on December 15, 2010, 04:43:01 AM
Post by: lilacwoman on December 15, 2010, 04:43:01 AM
Ann Lawrence the Autogyne insisted on spinal when he went to have his penis converted into a a vagina.
Go read his website for the reasons for wanting the experience of watching the surgeons.
Go read his website for the reasons for wanting the experience of watching the surgeons.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: lilacwoman on December 15, 2010, 04:48:30 AM
Post by: lilacwoman on December 15, 2010, 04:48:30 AM
Riannah, Tunis is former French colony and surgeons are trained in top French universities and use latest equipment and implants so there is no real risk and they are a really freindly people with only the odd one or two displaying some transphobia. I saved 50% and had ten days in 4 star hotel too.
Food was delicious too.
here is a the link: http://www.cosmeticatravel.com/english/default.asp (http://www.cosmeticatravel.com/english/default.asp)
Food was delicious too.
here is a the link: http://www.cosmeticatravel.com/english/default.asp (http://www.cosmeticatravel.com/english/default.asp)
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: juliemac on December 15, 2010, 05:05:24 AM
Post by: juliemac on December 15, 2010, 05:05:24 AM
You know... I watched that with my breakfast.
NP... I wish the doctor would have given me the pics he took of the surgery. I find all of it fascinating.
As for the post surgical depression? Nope.
After surgery I was pain free for the most part. Not even tylenol.
I came back to my room after a short walk to find something on my hospital bed table.
3 baggies. They contained the "remainders".
I poked at them, looked at them even took a few pics (no I didnt take them out).
I was quite detached. Literally and figureativly (spulling?)
NP... I wish the doctor would have given me the pics he took of the surgery. I find all of it fascinating.
As for the post surgical depression? Nope.
After surgery I was pain free for the most part. Not even tylenol.
I came back to my room after a short walk to find something on my hospital bed table.
3 baggies. They contained the "remainders".
I poked at them, looked at them even took a few pics (no I didnt take them out).
I was quite detached. Literally and figureativly (spulling?)
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Renate on December 15, 2010, 05:56:08 AM
Post by: Renate on December 15, 2010, 05:56:08 AM
Quote from: CaitJ on December 14, 2010, 11:39:55 PM
No reputable surgeon would ever do only a spinal anaesthetic for SRS.
I consider Dr. Pierre Brassard of Montréal reputable.
As an option he does spinal anesthesia with sleeping sedatives in the IV.
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Angela on December 15, 2010, 06:18:34 AM
Post by: Angela on December 15, 2010, 06:18:34 AM
Cant remember what Anaesthesia they gave me during my SRS, almost 4 years ago. But I remember sleeping heavilly throughout. But then again, Im a heavy sleeper to begin with. I slept through a 6.0 eathquake years ago. :D
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: CaitJ on December 17, 2010, 02:24:35 AM
Post by: CaitJ on December 17, 2010, 02:24:35 AM
Quote from: Renate on December 15, 2010, 05:56:08 AM
I consider Dr. Pierre Brassard of Montréal reputable.
As an option he does spinal anesthesia with sleeping sedatives in the IV.
What part of 'only' do you not understand?
Title: Re: Feeling Blue ~ after operation
Post by: Renate on December 17, 2010, 06:51:08 AM
Post by: Renate on December 17, 2010, 06:51:08 AM
Quote from: CaitJ on December 17, 2010, 02:24:35 AM
What part of 'only' do you not understand?
Well, the vowels give me trouble, Y only sometimes.