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Title: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: tinkerbell on January 02, 2007, 11:40:44 PM
Post by: tinkerbell on January 02, 2007, 11:40:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOPbiB27yw
URL: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KAOPbiB27yw
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URL: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KAOPbiB27yw
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Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 03, 2007, 12:04:25 AM
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 03, 2007, 12:04:25 AM
Is this home grown or is it real?
;)
Cindi
;)
Cindi
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: tinkerbell on January 03, 2007, 12:05:44 AM
Post by: tinkerbell on January 03, 2007, 12:05:44 AM
Quote from: Cindianna_Jones on January 03, 2007, 12:04:25 AM
Is this home grown or is it real?
;)
Cindi
No idea. If I had to guess, I'd say home grown!
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Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: Hazumu on January 03, 2007, 07:47:38 AM
Post by: Hazumu on January 03, 2007, 07:47:38 AM
1. It's well-produced and funny.
2. It perpetuates in society stereotypes of the 'Jerry Springer' type.
There are other such video examples linked here where the TG visibly passes much better.
I'm torn---
Karen
UPDATE: Here's the link to the uploaders' blog (in german.)
http://zoe-hh.transgender-blogs.com/
She's also uploaded another similar video that I think has already been posted here at Susans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsvDZfSacs
2. It perpetuates in society stereotypes of the 'Jerry Springer' type.
There are other such video examples linked here where the TG visibly passes much better.
I'm torn---
Karen
UPDATE: Here's the link to the uploaders' blog (in german.)
http://zoe-hh.transgender-blogs.com/
She's also uploaded another similar video that I think has already been posted here at Susans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsvDZfSacs
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: BrandiOK on January 03, 2007, 09:37:23 AM
Post by: BrandiOK on January 03, 2007, 09:37:23 AM
Personally I think it's terrible....as was mentioned before it's just another example of perpetuating stereotypes made popular by (I hate to even say his name) Jerry Springer and his partner in stereotyping, Maury Povich.
It's no different than the children on the playground making fun of the overweight kid or the child who stutters except the people making it should know better. It's disgusting that adults still find humor in this kind of thing. Part of being an adult is understanding that while there may be a part of us that wants to laugh when someone trips and falls in public there should be a much bigger part of us that is concerned not only that the person who fell is ok but how embarressed they probably feel for doing it in a public place.
Somewhere along the line a good laugh at the expense of others has become more important than empathy and compassion in our society. I'm sick to death of all the little one liners I see scattered through television and movies where announcing that some woman, TS or otherwise, used to be a man is used for comedic effect.
While this "commercial" is most likely home made it is, sadly, reminiscent of todays marketing, advertising and entertainment mentalities.
It's no different than the children on the playground making fun of the overweight kid or the child who stutters except the people making it should know better. It's disgusting that adults still find humor in this kind of thing. Part of being an adult is understanding that while there may be a part of us that wants to laugh when someone trips and falls in public there should be a much bigger part of us that is concerned not only that the person who fell is ok but how embarressed they probably feel for doing it in a public place.
Somewhere along the line a good laugh at the expense of others has become more important than empathy and compassion in our society. I'm sick to death of all the little one liners I see scattered through television and movies where announcing that some woman, TS or otherwise, used to be a man is used for comedic effect.
While this "commercial" is most likely home made it is, sadly, reminiscent of todays marketing, advertising and entertainment mentalities.
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: Melissa on January 03, 2007, 10:00:09 AM
Post by: Melissa on January 03, 2007, 10:00:09 AM
I didn't like how it implies that a TG person does it for "shock value" and as a prank on men. It's completely degrading and nowdays most companies are going towards TG friendly policies and this is definitely something a major company like masterdard would not perpetuate.
Melissa
Melissa
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: tinkerbell on January 03, 2007, 06:34:38 PM
Post by: tinkerbell on January 03, 2007, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: Melissa on January 03, 2007, 10:00:09 AM
nowdays most companies are going towards TG friendly policies and this is definitely something a major company like masterdard would not perpetuate.
Melissa
I'm not sure. Can anyone make a home video using any company name like mastercard and put it in the youtube website? It doesn't sound right IMO.
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Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 03, 2007, 06:38:54 PM
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 03, 2007, 06:38:54 PM
Oh.... It's funny! Can't we make a little fun of ourselves once in a while? Lighten up! Enjoy life! Laugh a little (or a lot if you can)
Cindi
Cindi
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: Suzy on January 03, 2007, 06:39:48 PM
Post by: Suzy on January 03, 2007, 06:39:48 PM
I just don't believe any company like MasterCard would want to irk the TG community.
It's almost as bad as what Geico is doing to cavemen.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi
It's almost as bad as what Geico is doing to cavemen.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: Steph on January 03, 2007, 06:56:42 PM
Post by: Steph on January 03, 2007, 06:56:42 PM
Quote from: Cindianna_Jones on January 03, 2007, 06:38:54 PM
Oh.... It's funny! Can't we make a little fun of ourselves once in a while? Lighten up! Enjoy life! Laugh a little (or a lot if you can)
Cindi
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Normally I have always agreed with your views and comments Cindi, but this time I can't quite get my head around the purpose of the ad. Yep normally I would smile, chuckle, laugh but the problem is that we are not the ones making fun of ourselves, it's an international corporation portraying us as, if nothing else, being deceitful, perpetuating the stereo types.
Just my thoughts :)
Steph
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 03, 2007, 07:11:15 PM
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 03, 2007, 07:11:15 PM
If it were an international company, I'd agree. But this is likely fabricated by someone else... perhaps a crossdresser. I still think it's funny ;)
Cindi
Cindi
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: Melissa on January 04, 2007, 11:45:57 AM
Post by: Melissa on January 04, 2007, 11:45:57 AM
Quote from: Cindianna_Jones on January 03, 2007, 06:38:54 PMHehe, I have to agree with this. I kind of was away for a while and I was hanging out with a bunch of non-LGBT people for a while and having a grand old time and then I came back I there was a noticable amount of tension (understandably so) with the TG community compared to the what I was experiencing. Anyhow, I think sometimes we do get a little too caught up in drama sometimes. Now that being said, I dislike the message that was implied, and if not for the inaccuracies, it might have actually been funny.
Lighten up! Enjoy life! Laugh a little (or a lot if you can)
Melissa
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: Steph on January 04, 2007, 01:14:24 PM
Post by: Steph on January 04, 2007, 01:14:24 PM
Quote from: Cindianna_Jones on January 03, 2007, 07:11:15 PM
If it were an international company, I'd agree. But this is likely fabricated by someone else... perhaps a crossdresser. I still think it's funny ;)
Cindi
There is that I guess. Damn cross-dressers :)
Steph
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 04, 2007, 02:35:56 PM
Post by: cindianna_jones on January 04, 2007, 02:35:56 PM
And as I was contemplating this last night, I realized that this thing pokes fun at Mastercard in a major way. Now I understand better why I like it. I love ridiculing the big businesses. I'm not against business, mind you. I just like to make fun of them..... for they so richly deserve it ;)
Cindi
Cindi
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: Sophie on January 05, 2007, 08:06:54 AM
Post by: Sophie on January 05, 2007, 08:06:54 AM
;D Oh, it's just a bit of fun isn't it?
I thought it was funny, but then again I've never been into the whole Political Correctness thing.
I thought it was funny, but then again I've never been into the whole Political Correctness thing.
Title: Re: Mastercard Commercial
Post by: HelenW on January 06, 2007, 11:09:44 AM
Post by: HelenW on January 06, 2007, 11:09:44 AM
I think this video perpetuates the fear that transsexuals are all just out to pervert their unsuspecting straight boyfriends and thus keeps the transphobia alive and well. Shame on whoever made it.
I heartily disapprove. >:(
helen
I heartily disapprove. >:(
helen