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Title: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Sly on March 09, 2011, 10:26:01 PM
Post by: Sly on March 09, 2011, 10:26:01 PM
So I've been thinking about this lately. I never used to wear makeup, I always liked the look and creative potential of it, but I used to completely stay away it. Along with anything else that I thought of as too feminine. But recently I've been more comfortable expressing this side of myself. I mean, if gender is a social construct then there's nothing inherently female about makeup, so it doesn't matter who wears it, right? I like it and it doesn't make me any less of a man.
I know there are other transguys on here who like to wear makeup or are effeminate in other ways, but I'm wondering how many of you did this before you transitioned, or were you completely uncomfortable with it like I was?
I know there are other transguys on here who like to wear makeup or are effeminate in other ways, but I'm wondering how many of you did this before you transitioned, or were you completely uncomfortable with it like I was?
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Donnie B. on March 09, 2011, 11:35:56 PM
Post by: Donnie B. on March 09, 2011, 11:35:56 PM
Well, I'm pre-transitioning, and I avoid make-up/feminine things like the plague right now. For me, it has to do with the reaction I get whenever I do stuff like that that turns me off. I love my feminine qualities, but it doesn't exactly help my self-esteem for everyone to gasp when I enter wearing a dress and start praising me for "finally accepting that I'm a girl". >:(
So...yeah- avoid it like the plague. However, when I start to pass a bit more and get on T, then I probably will go back to wearing skirts and makeup because I really am a feminine guy.
But yea, Sylvester, I saw your pic with the makeup on the passing thread, and dude, you totally can work that makeup like a pro. I am amazed. :o
So...yeah- avoid it like the plague. However, when I start to pass a bit more and get on T, then I probably will go back to wearing skirts and makeup because I really am a feminine guy.
But yea, Sylvester, I saw your pic with the makeup on the passing thread, and dude, you totally can work that makeup like a pro. I am amazed. :o
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Nygeel on March 09, 2011, 11:38:59 PM
Post by: Nygeel on March 09, 2011, 11:38:59 PM
Not a fan of the word "effeminate." I never was too feminine. Since I have the disadvantage of a very feminine body and am not read as male I tend to stay away from things that are read as feminine. I do enjoy skirts, I like crossdressing/gender play. I don't feel as if gender is strictly a social construct.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Randy on March 10, 2011, 12:29:24 AM
Post by: Randy on March 10, 2011, 12:29:24 AM
I've never really been into make-up, but I am definitely infinitely more feminine than I was pre-transition. It wasn't something I ever expected to happen, it just kind of did.... The gay man that had been trapped in there just pranced on out! I had definitely been overcompensating for being in a female body by trying to be as uber-masculine as I could possibly be. Now that being read as male is a non-issue for me, and I've come to terms with being gay, effeminacy feels completely natural to me.
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Love the avatar, Atlas, I just started getting into Death Note.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Alex37 on March 10, 2011, 05:56:21 AM
Post by: Alex37 on March 10, 2011, 05:56:21 AM
After I transition, I'll probably look/act much more effeminate. Right now I avoid wearing make up and skirts mainly because I'm not out to most people, and I don't want them to think I'm a girly girl when I'm really an effeminate guy. Really I should just get over it and enjoy cross dressing while I still have the body, but it just doesn't happen very often. ::)
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: MaxAloysius on March 10, 2011, 08:46:41 AM
Post by: MaxAloysius on March 10, 2011, 08:46:41 AM
I'm not effeminate in the slightest, but I do love make-up at times, to dramatise my face/features. I'm not talking red lipstick and pink eyeshadow, but black eyeliner and mascara, maybe a purple or black lipstick or white powder to lighten my face. And as much as make-up is socially accepted as a feminine product, by todays standards these methods seem genderless.
But as it is, I avoid wearing the make-up that I love because I get comments like 'Oh, that eyeliner makes your eyes so bright', which is not in and of itself bad, except for when it is followed by something along the lines of, 'It makes you look so pretty, you should try and be girly more often.' >:(
Not impressed by societies standards, but oppressed by them anyway. However, when I pass as male, that make-up is coming right back out! >:-)
But as it is, I avoid wearing the make-up that I love because I get comments like 'Oh, that eyeliner makes your eyes so bright', which is not in and of itself bad, except for when it is followed by something along the lines of, 'It makes you look so pretty, you should try and be girly more often.' >:(
Not impressed by societies standards, but oppressed by them anyway. However, when I pass as male, that make-up is coming right back out! >:-)
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: PixieBoy on March 10, 2011, 09:12:17 AM
Post by: PixieBoy on March 10, 2011, 09:12:17 AM
I guess that I'm pretty effeminate. I don't know how to apply makeup, but I like the effect it has on me (sometimes I'm in the mood for dressing up as a girl, but I think of it as doing drag/crossdressing). I'm a goth; not exactly the manliest macho-style possible. Makeup is also the only way for me to achieve the lovely cheekbones of Peter Murphy (goth icon). I also very much adore the "genderless" look of early goth style, it was all cheekbones, slender bodies wrapped in ripped-up tights and leather and lacy shirts and chains, huge and bizarre hair, black upon white. The guys and the girls looked similar, almost identical; nowadays, it seems the goth style has become more "divided".
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Bahzi on March 10, 2011, 09:51:21 AM
Post by: Bahzi on March 10, 2011, 09:51:21 AM
I'm not really effeminate, I always hated makeup and form fitting clothing. However, I do have a thing for effeminate men. Cute, skinny boys who wear makeup and tight pants are just plain hot to me. I know there's a lot of emphasis in gay dating on the importance of being 'straight-acting', but there's always some dudes who love the girly boys too. Hell, even some women find them attractive, not that they'd typically be interested, but I have known a few to like girls. There's no point in acting like something you aren't, if you're not the super masculine type you shouldn't fake it, that's just another closet, you know?
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: lancem27 on March 10, 2011, 09:56:16 AM
Post by: lancem27 on March 10, 2011, 09:56:16 AM
I am not really that effeminate in terms of dress...I prefer very traditional men's clothes. And I despise makeup, I resent every single day I had to apply it as a teen girl.
However. I do have rather feminine mannerisms. Some I hate...some I am a wee bit attached to. Communicating with women has become very easy for me, and that's something I don't wanna lose.
However. I do have rather feminine mannerisms. Some I hate...some I am a wee bit attached to. Communicating with women has become very easy for me, and that's something I don't wanna lose.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: emil on March 10, 2011, 03:39:26 PM
Post by: emil on March 10, 2011, 03:39:26 PM
i actually use make-up the way i learned it from a "masculinizing make-up" tutorial on youtube and i pass really well that way. i look very pale and fragile in winter so i look more ambiguous without the make-up which includes a bronzer.....
i love kohl and eyeliner but that would definitely kill my passing - i have big blue eyes that allmost pop out of my head as it is, using eyeliner makes me look like a japanese doll:(
i love kohl and eyeliner but that would definitely kill my passing - i have big blue eyes that allmost pop out of my head as it is, using eyeliner makes me look like a japanese doll:(
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: N.Chaos on March 10, 2011, 06:14:36 PM
Post by: N.Chaos on March 10, 2011, 06:14:36 PM
QuoteI also very much adore the "genderless" look of early goth style, it was all cheekbones, slender bodies wrapped in ripped-up tights and leather and lacy shirts and chains, huge and bizarre hair, black upon white. The guys and the girls looked similar, almost identicalGod, you and me both. I think so many of the singers back then were godly-hot.
I'd love to be able to still wear fishnets and eyeliner, but since I'm still fat I don't think it'd work. I've never seen feminine fat guys, unfortunately. Makes me worry about my hair as well, because there's not way in hell I'm changing the only physical thing that makes me happy, but I'm worried it's giving me away. I just need to lose more weight... a lot more.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Farm Boy on March 10, 2011, 09:05:40 PM
Post by: Farm Boy on March 10, 2011, 09:05:40 PM
To be honest, I'm not really sure. I don't see myself as overly masculine or feminine (aside from clothing preference, I prefer masculine clothes). I do avoid certain things and overcompensate a bit in an effort to be seen as "not feminine/not a girl," but I'm not sure how much that would change after transition. I feel better about doing feminine things if I pretend that others see me as an effeminate gay guy and not a girl, so I like to think that post transition I wouldn't feel the need to overcompensate to be seen as male.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Nikolai_S on March 10, 2011, 11:42:56 PM
Post by: Nikolai_S on March 10, 2011, 11:42:56 PM
Yes, yes, definitely. Although I think most people around me are totally oblivious to the fact that I'm about 70% gay, leading me to believe most of my mannerisms and such are decidedly male. Eyeliner tends to make me look completely androgynous nowadays... or it did before I got my last haircut. Now I think I might pull it off and still look male, but hard to say. I like it anyway, I especially like looking like I'm a really androgynous guy, and before I just looked like a butch girl.
Before transition.... rarely. I wore eyeliner only 2 or 3 times before transition, and concealer a few times when my undereye circles made me look like a vampire otherwise. I started wearing eyeliner semi-regularly when I came out and I was around my boyfriend a lot, who wore eyeliner 24/7. I had to be in the right mood, otherwise I'd get really dysphoric - especially since I'd know I wouldn't pass that way.
Before transition.... rarely. I wore eyeliner only 2 or 3 times before transition, and concealer a few times when my undereye circles made me look like a vampire otherwise. I started wearing eyeliner semi-regularly when I came out and I was around my boyfriend a lot, who wore eyeliner 24/7. I had to be in the right mood, otherwise I'd get really dysphoric - especially since I'd know I wouldn't pass that way.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: sascraps on March 12, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
Post by: sascraps on March 12, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
You look like one of those slim gothy/punkish type of guys who can rock the makeup. And since you might be going for that sort of style, you might want to look up Archetype Cosmetics if it's still around. Several years ago I ordered some of her makeup, which is hand made by some chick. The colors are unbelievable! But I really don't wear makeup and never have. I just fell victim to the shiny colors. :laugh: But the odd thing with me, and why I never got into any aspect of trying to look feminine is because I have always passed as a guy without trying. From the time I was a toddler to the current day even with my big boobs, I still get "sir" and "buddy" all the time. But the real problem was when I was younger, in my very early teens, I got jumped by groups of adult men a few times and beat up for being a "->-bleeped-<-" because they thought I was a boy trying to look like a girl. So the whole girl thing just never worked for me. :-\
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: some ftm guy on March 12, 2011, 11:08:13 PM
Post by: some ftm guy on March 12, 2011, 11:08:13 PM
i know what you mean by not being the traditional view of male. I don't really see myself as macho, not the slightest bit tough but i never liked wearing make up or girls clothes, i guess that makes me kind of gender neutral in that aspect, very in between effeminate and not effeminate or knowing and accepting there are regular guy stuff i do, act, always HATED really tight forming clothes and still wouldn't wear them but i don't wear stuff that hangs off either. but i have a few mannerisms I've stopped trying to make myself not do anymore that are usually what only girls do like that limp wristed thing or the way i lean my head in my hands, sometimes finding that my legs are crossed. i find myself doing those and it doesn't make me mad anymore it's actually quite amusing since i realized I'm gay. like oh that's why! not to offend anyone, I'm well aware there are straight guys that act the same way, just saying for me that's what made me stop trying to act like some perfect male image.
Quote from: Jake84 on March 10, 2011, 09:51:21 AMagreed, agreed with the whole point to what you said but especially the highlighted one lol.
I'm not really effeminate, I always hated makeup and form fitting clothing. However, I do have a thing for effeminate men. Cute, skinny boys who wear makeup and tight pants are just plain hot to me. I know there's a lot of emphasis in gay dating on the importance of being 'straight-acting', but there's always some dudes who love the girly boys too. Hell, even some women find them attractive, not that they'd typically be interested, but I have known a few to like girls. There's no point in acting like something you aren't, if you're not the super masculine type you shouldn't fake it, that's just another closet, you know?
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Da Monkey on March 12, 2011, 11:26:06 PM
Post by: Da Monkey on March 12, 2011, 11:26:06 PM
I've realised that pre-transition I was a manly girl, now I am a rather girly guy. It's very strange to me because I was so masculine when I lived as a woman and now people pin me as being feminine. I don't wear make up, tight clothes, or talk with an upward inflection.
I apparently dress "gangster" or appear masculine, though it's my mannerisms that get people (who don't know I am trans) calling me "gay", "girly", and even the... well... f word. They mean it in a "poking fun" sort of way even though I find it offensive I shrug it off otherwise they say "I'm too sensitive" or I should "get the sand out of my vagina".
It's made me realise that even thought I felt like a man my whole life it is one thing to identify as a male and another to interact socially as a male when people have no idea that I've transitioned into one.
I just wish I could act the way I always have without getting called names. :/
I apparently dress "gangster" or appear masculine, though it's my mannerisms that get people (who don't know I am trans) calling me "gay", "girly", and even the... well... f word. They mean it in a "poking fun" sort of way even though I find it offensive I shrug it off otherwise they say "I'm too sensitive" or I should "get the sand out of my vagina".
It's made me realise that even thought I felt like a man my whole life it is one thing to identify as a male and another to interact socially as a male when people have no idea that I've transitioned into one.
I just wish I could act the way I always have without getting called names. :/
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: lancem27 on March 12, 2011, 11:29:06 PM
Post by: lancem27 on March 12, 2011, 11:29:06 PM
Jay - this is the story of my life and will likely be worse when I pass.
Everyone was always saying I was such a masculine girl, total butch, "looks like a man", blah blah. Now that I tell them I'm male they're like "but you're so feminine! And so pretty!"
Grrr make up your goddamn minds.
Everyone was always saying I was such a masculine girl, total butch, "looks like a man", blah blah. Now that I tell them I'm male they're like "but you're so feminine! And so pretty!"
Grrr make up your goddamn minds.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Da Monkey on March 12, 2011, 11:34:00 PM
Post by: Da Monkey on March 12, 2011, 11:34:00 PM
Yeah some people like to think they understand you better than you do.
When I came out when people seemed shocked I just said "well, who didn't see this coming?" I actually found on FB someone's status who I went to high school with was "can't believe a girl I went to high school with is now becoming a man" and someone else who I knew commented "so she finally did it?"
The worst is my mom saying I had Barbie dolls as a child, I was like no ->-bleeped-<- you bought them for me.
When I came out when people seemed shocked I just said "well, who didn't see this coming?" I actually found on FB someone's status who I went to high school with was "can't believe a girl I went to high school with is now becoming a man" and someone else who I knew commented "so she finally did it?"
The worst is my mom saying I had Barbie dolls as a child, I was like no ->-bleeped-<- you bought them for me.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: insideontheoutside on March 12, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
Post by: insideontheoutside on March 12, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
Oddly enough to my knowledge no one has every called me butch or referred to me as a lesbian in the past. I did get "tom boy" a lot by family (everyone else who didn't know me as a kid just thought I was a boy). I always looked really awkward in all female clothes ... like I was dressing in drag or something. I look back on pictures and it seems plainly apparent how awkward it was. Now, there actually are some female clothes in my closet (granted, all of it is mostly androgynous) but I'm ok with that. Does that make me effeminate? Not really. I'm not macho either. I'm probably quite a blend by this point. I kinda just do whatever now. I probably don't have too many girly-girl mannerisms.
You want to really see me go girly though? Put me around a spider. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I've actually done the total girly scream and the little dance that goes with it.
You want to really see me go girly though? Put me around a spider. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I've actually done the total girly scream and the little dance that goes with it.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Da Monkey on March 12, 2011, 11:49:00 PM
Post by: Da Monkey on March 12, 2011, 11:49:00 PM
Quote from: insideontheoutside on March 12, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
You want to really see me go girly though? Put me around a spider. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I've actually done the total girly scream and the little dance that goes with it.
Hahah I'm like that with ear wigs. I've had sooo many bad experiences with them, my bathroom at my parents was infested with them and it's developed into a major phobia. Hahah I also don't like the spiders with the giant asses that are probably carrying 5942399848 baby monsters. I also scream girly and dance away from it.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: insideontheoutside on March 12, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
Post by: insideontheoutside on March 12, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
Quote from: JayUnit on March 12, 2011, 11:49:00 PM
Hahah I'm like that with ear wigs. I've had sooo many bad experiences with them, my bathroom at my parents was infested with them and it's developed into a major phobia. Hahah I also don't like the spiders with the giant asses that are probably carrying 5942399848 baby monsters. I also scream girly and dance away from it.
Oh man that sucks! There was one time I was walking around my apartment complex and accidentally walked right into a big web. I knew what kind of spider made it because I'd seen the webs around before - a giant orange one EEEEEEE. So yeah, walked right into it and promptly freaked the f*** out right in the middle of the complex. There was totally a spider in it and I had no idea where it went. It was like a horror movie. *shivers*
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Nikolai_S on March 13, 2011, 12:01:19 AM
Post by: Nikolai_S on March 13, 2011, 12:01:19 AM
Quote from: insideontheoutside on March 12, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
Oh man that sucks! There was one time I was walking around my apartment complex and accidentally walked right into a big web. I knew what kind of spider made it because I'd seen the webs around before - a giant orange one EEEEEEE. So yeah, walked right into it and promptly freaked the f*** out right in the middle of the complex. There was totally a spider in it and I had no idea where it went. It was like a horror movie. *shivers*
As much as I sympathise with the insect problem - at one point my living room became a waystation for wasps (and I am really, really phobic of them) - I can't help but find the idea of you freaking out and doing a girly scream hilarious. I just can't properly picture it.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Da Monkey on March 13, 2011, 12:03:55 AM
Post by: Da Monkey on March 13, 2011, 12:03:55 AM
Both of those situations sound horrifying hahah ahh! I would like to overcome my fears of them but I don't think it will be easy.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: lancem27 on March 13, 2011, 12:05:55 AM
Post by: lancem27 on March 13, 2011, 12:05:55 AM
Eurghh. We have earwigs, little black beetles, mice (not many this year though). When I see them I don't really scream anymore, I just kinda do a really deep gasp, haha.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Da Monkey on March 13, 2011, 12:19:33 AM
Post by: Da Monkey on March 13, 2011, 12:19:33 AM
Hahah that's awful.
My girlfriend's sister's boyfriend had a spider crawl on his shoulder and he flicked it while screaming in a girlish way. Hahah it made me feel better about myself especially because he likes to out-man me a lot and is condescending. It was hard not to laugh.
My girlfriend's sister's boyfriend had a spider crawl on his shoulder and he flicked it while screaming in a girlish way. Hahah it made me feel better about myself especially because he likes to out-man me a lot and is condescending. It was hard not to laugh.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: N.Chaos on March 13, 2011, 12:51:11 AM
Post by: N.Chaos on March 13, 2011, 12:51:11 AM
^LOL. ->-bleeped-<-, at least he flicked it. Once while I was camping a spider landed on me and I flailed so hard I almost ended up getting roasted.
I hate almost all bugs, but centipedes...I've ran out of the house because of those effers before. I'll kill most spiders and almost anything else (Long as it's not a bee, screw bees) but centipedes? To hell with that.
I'm pissed off right now because we've got a minor case of carpet beetles and I'm afraid to sleep, I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up with one in my ear or my mouth or something X_X.
I hate almost all bugs, but centipedes...I've ran out of the house because of those effers before. I'll kill most spiders and almost anything else (Long as it's not a bee, screw bees) but centipedes? To hell with that.
I'm pissed off right now because we've got a minor case of carpet beetles and I'm afraid to sleep, I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up with one in my ear or my mouth or something X_X.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: greekboi on March 13, 2011, 03:57:36 AM
Post by: greekboi on March 13, 2011, 03:57:36 AM
I'm new to the whole ftm scene (hi everyone!) and haven't been very far into my transition yet. I think that if I hade been born into the right body I would definitely be a more skinny boy (I'm a rather skinny yet curvy boy with my female born body) and my style would definitely gravitate towards the tight pants and makeup style. Since I'm stuck in this body I'm wearing much more baggy clothes...I'm considering starting T and having top surgery done, but once I start passing I think I will begin to go for that style. For now I can't wear anything remotely effeminate or genderless because people always say "You look so pretty, why don't you dress like a girl more often?" which bothers me. A lot.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Bahzi on March 13, 2011, 10:31:39 AM
Post by: Bahzi on March 13, 2011, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: N.Chaos on March 13, 2011, 12:51:11 AM
I hate almost all bugs, but centipedes...I've ran out of the house because of those effers before. I'll kill most spiders and almost anything else (Long as it's not a bee, screw bees) but centipedes? To hell with that.
This, so much this! I loathe those things. I think the spiders are cute in comparison, and I leave them alive so they can help control the centipede population now, because centipedes are from hell. Nothing should have that many legs, butt antenna half their body length, and move that quickly. Wikipedia says they can move 2 feet a second- that's just wrong. I found a baby one in my laundry basket yesterday when grabbing some clean socks. I've gotten to the point where unless it's a huge one, I just go "oh, eww!", and look for an implement to kill it with, but I used to yell a bit when I saw them indoors, including the first time a couple years when a 3" long one was running past me on my bed. O_o I probably did shriek a bit then.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: PixieBoy on March 13, 2011, 10:58:20 AM
Post by: PixieBoy on March 13, 2011, 10:58:20 AM
Spiders are horrifying. I watched Return of the King (third part of the Lord of the Rings films) yesterday, and I think that Tolkien is quite the bastard for including Shelob (giant spider monster) in his story. Once, I googled images of spiders (I was chatting with a friend about things that scared us), and I was so frightened by the images that I couldn't sit with my feet touching the floor for an hour.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Sly on March 13, 2011, 02:08:22 PM
Post by: Sly on March 13, 2011, 02:08:22 PM
Hahaha I actually love spiders... bugs in general really. Although I'm not fond of the ones that fly. Buzzing noises whizzing past my ears kinda freak me out at times.
Funny thing is, I think makeup actually helps me pass a little better. Because it makes me look less like a girl dressing like a guy and more like a femmy gay dude. I've noticed people sometimes giving me weird looks since I started wearing eyeliner, so I just give 'em a smile and little flick of the wrist. ;) I mean, I'm not 100% gay... I like everybody. But it's easier for me to project that image.
Funny thing is, I think makeup actually helps me pass a little better. Because it makes me look less like a girl dressing like a guy and more like a femmy gay dude. I've noticed people sometimes giving me weird looks since I started wearing eyeliner, so I just give 'em a smile and little flick of the wrist. ;) I mean, I'm not 100% gay... I like everybody. But it's easier for me to project that image.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: insideontheoutside on March 13, 2011, 02:46:07 PM
Post by: insideontheoutside on March 13, 2011, 02:46:07 PM
Glad it's not just me on the spiders phobia! There's other bugs I can handle but spiders are the worst (followed by centipedes and scorpions).
I guess one other way I'm girly is I fuss with my hair. Although now so do plenty of other guys.
I guess one other way I'm girly is I fuss with my hair. Although now so do plenty of other guys.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: N.Chaos on March 14, 2011, 09:53:26 PM
Post by: N.Chaos on March 14, 2011, 09:53:26 PM
Quote from: Jake84 on March 13, 2011, 10:31:39 AM
This, so much this! I loathe those things. I think the spiders are cute in comparison, and I leave them alive so they can help control the centipede population now, because centipedes are from hell. Nothing should have that many legs, butt antenna half their body length, and move that quickly. Wikipedia says they can move 2 feet a second- that's just wrong. I found a baby one in my laundry basket yesterday when grabbing some clean socks. I've gotten to the point where unless it's a huge one, I just go "oh, eww!", and look for an implement to kill it with, but I used to yell a bit when I saw them indoors, including the first time a couple years when a 3" long one was running past me on my bed. O_o I probably did shriek a bit then.
Agh, 3 INCHES? I'm actually sitting here getting chills just thinking about that kind of nastyness. Eugh. You're a braver man than me lol, I can't kill them at alllll.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Devin87 on March 14, 2011, 10:07:27 PM
Post by: Devin87 on March 14, 2011, 10:07:27 PM
There are very, very few feminine things about me. I've only worn makeup twice in my life (literally-- no more than that). Once was when my grandmother insisted on showing me how to put it on when I was 17 and I tried to wash it all off before going to work, but my manager still noticed enough on me to freak out about it. And then there was when I let the gay guy at the beauty school do my hair and makeup before prom and again everyone freaked out that I had on makeup and a dress.
Probably the only "feminine" thing about me that I'm going to miss is my ability to completely manipulate older men in positions of power. I was able to get professors, priests, bosses, etc to let me get away with murder with my smartass-y brat charm. Somehow I'm not sure I'll be able to pull that off in the same way after I transition. But then again, I'm getting older, so that gift was doomed anyway. Ah well.
Probably the only "feminine" thing about me that I'm going to miss is my ability to completely manipulate older men in positions of power. I was able to get professors, priests, bosses, etc to let me get away with murder with my smartass-y brat charm. Somehow I'm not sure I'll be able to pull that off in the same way after I transition. But then again, I'm getting older, so that gift was doomed anyway. Ah well.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: tekla on March 14, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
Post by: tekla on March 14, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
DO NOT move to Northern California, it's spider heaven here. Redwoods look awesome in pictures, up close, they are covered in webs, and no frost here to do a winter kill on them.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Lee on March 14, 2011, 10:21:55 PM
Post by: Lee on March 14, 2011, 10:21:55 PM
My parents' place is right next to a field, and my room was on the bottom floor. There was almost always a spider somewhere in my room or bathroom. I grew up paranoid that any itch on my foot was a spider. That was one of the high points of moving. I'm in the middle of the city and 30 floors in the air, and there's yet to be anything living here that isn't supposed to. :)
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Da Monkey on March 14, 2011, 10:28:41 PM
Post by: Da Monkey on March 14, 2011, 10:28:41 PM
Quote from: Lee on March 14, 2011, 10:21:55 PM
My parents' place is right next to a field, and my room was on the bottom floor. There was almost always a spider somewhere in my room or bathroom. I grew up paranoid that any itch on my foot was a spider. That was one of the high points of moving. I'm in the middle of the city and 30 floors in the air, and there's yet to be anything living here that isn't supposed to. :)
30 floors in the air? I am soo jealous. In my city the highest building is maybe 14 floors hahah =( I'm excited about moving to an apartment building next month big enough for an elevator (6 floors hahahh).
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: tekla on March 14, 2011, 10:49:58 PM
Post by: tekla on March 14, 2011, 10:49:58 PM
Well just an odd fact that not a whole lot of people know (well hotel clerks know it because of all the requests they get) but a hook and ladder on a metropolitan fire department only reaches up six stories. Anything over that, you're bar-b-que in the event of a fire.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Lee on March 14, 2011, 10:53:56 PM
Post by: Lee on March 14, 2011, 10:53:56 PM
Yeah, my mother reminds me of that every time I see her :laugh:
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: Devin87 on March 14, 2011, 10:54:44 PM
Post by: Devin87 on March 14, 2011, 10:54:44 PM
My roommate woke me up at 3 in the morning once because she peed on a spider... She woke up and went to the bathroom and then as she was about to flush she looked down and saw this huge spider as big as a tarantula (but I'm convinced it was a wolf spider). We were at her parents' house in the North Carolina swamp. She woke me up and I slammed the lid and flushed the toilet a few times, but in the morning when she told her dad and he checked it was still there, so he flushed the toilet a few more times and it finally went down. So just be careful where you pee.
Title: Re: effeminate transmen...
Post by: kyril on March 14, 2011, 10:59:12 PM
Post by: kyril on March 14, 2011, 10:59:12 PM
Quote from: tekla on March 14, 2011, 10:49:58 PMIt's not quite that grim. We'll hike up the stairs to get you...you're only out of luck in the worst fires, or if you're both incapacitated and so overweight that it takes multiple firefighters to carry you (most of us can lift people up to about 180 pounds).
Well just an odd fact that not a whole lot of people know (well hotel clerks know it because of all the requests they get) but a hook and ladder on a metropolitan fire department only reaches up six stories. Anything over that, you're bar-b-que in the event of a fire.
If you have the option, get downstairs though. Safer from the smoke anyway. If you think you'll have to pass through a smoky area, get a T-shirt wet and wrap it around your face - it won't help with the low oxygen content in the immediate area of a fire, but it'll catch most of the particulates which can interfere with oxygen absorption and cause coughing/deep smoke inhalation.
Next best option is the roof. Roof evacuation via helicopter is reasonably straightforward.