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How much does someone's political party affect/predict their tolerance for transfolk?

My electrologist is republican yet half her clients are trans and she is a wonderful compassionate person. It just depends on the person.

I'm a little to the right. Depends on the person.

  I am a moderate Republican and a Christian, think McCain.  Most of my family are Republicans and Christian.  My little brother is a Tea Party and won't say much past politics.  Most of my friends are Democrats.  I have more resistance with the people on the extremes, non believers and the higher educated!  Yet, a cousin is an extreme left, but she accepts my predicament a lot better than my extreme brother on the other end!   
The factors here are: 
My age, 58 (old).
The extremes of the political spectrum.  It gets worse at the ends.
The personality of the person.
The education degree level.  The higher, the less tolerant.
How much the person knows me.  The more the better.
  Joelene

I never voted but leaned strongly toward the republican views.....until the end of Bush's term. UGh.... I have always been a pretty conservative person too. Sooooooo.......not everyone is as predictable as one may think.

Hugs to you....
Patty

Of course not!  She could be one of the best people ever.  You never know, labels are just labels.  Ask the right questions and see where things go.

Best of luck!

Kristi

What does being a Christian and Republican have to do with this?

The 2008 election had several gay marriage issues on the ballot.

Now blacks vote solidy Democrat. Very liberal. But the wrong kind of liberal. Their fiscally liberal, social conservatives. It's thought that the  Obama factor brought out enough extra Black voters to turn the tide the wrong way on 8 in California.

Also theres no Republicans who are members of Mainline Protestant churches that take a positive view towards the GLBT community?

No, not necessarily.

I wouldn't date a Republican, but only because we'd have irreconcilable differences on points of ethics and social justice. I wouldn't necessarily assume that an individual Republican would be any more transphobic than a Democrat.

If she's a "social-values" Republican, that might be an issue.

If she's truly a "small government" Republican, you might be okay.  Just be warned that many of the people that claim to want the government out of people's lives really mean, "We want the government out of businesses lives so they can do what they want, but they absolutely should be in the bedroom to make sure nobody has any type of sex I don't like."

I've met both types of Republicans, and disagree with both, but I can live with and enjoy the company of the group of Republicans that isn't trying to enforce their moral values upon my life.  It's hard to enjoy the company of someone who wants the government to enforce some set of morals on me, though, so the other type isn't as fun to be around.

I voted 'No' in the Republic Referendum! Nothing wrong with a monarchy, I want a woman as our head of state, not a politician. :laugh:

Ask her a few questions on other things first, and see what her general attitude is. 

Not sure I could have a relationship with a republican. The republican party's social agenda causes deaths in the LGBT community. In my opinion, someone who would support them, no matter what your social agenda is, or lack thereof, is enabling them to continue this.

It probably depends on whether the person leans Republican more for fiscal or social issues. Naturally transfolk would tend to be socially liberal (since the social conservatives are usually their arch enemy). On the fiscal side, there would probably be minimal correlation with the trans community; on here we probably have members ranging from those with a socialist attitude to those who want as little government as possible. The problem is the two major U.S. political parties have "piggybanked" the fiscal and social issues together; "libertarian" would probably be a better description for most TSs who happen to be fiscally conservative.

Quote from: Joelene9 on April 16, 2011, 10:15:02 PM
  I am a moderate Republican and a Christian, think McCain.  Most of my family are Republicans and Christian.  My little brother is a Tea Party and won't say much past politics.  Most of my friends are Democrats.  I have more resistance with the people on the extremes, non believers and the higher educated!  Yet, a cousin is an extreme left, but she accepts my predicament a lot better than my extreme brother on the other end!   
The factors here are: 
My age, 58 (old).
The extremes of the political spectrum.  It gets worse at the ends.
The personality of the person.
The education degree level.  The higher, the less tolerant.
How much the person knows me.  The more the better.
  Joelene

I definitely agree that an extremist of any variety tends to be less accepting, but on the point of education I find the opposite to be true. There's no way of phrasing this that doesn't sound entirely snobbish, but an intelligent, educated person is not only more likely to already know about trans issues, but more willing to discuss it logically and be less swayed by automatic prejudices. There's a reason documentaries about trans issues are being shown at a nearby university rather than 2 year college. Not to say uneducated people can't do the same, I know that's not true. But I see a fair correlation between the desire for a higher education and the willingness to participate in rational conversation.
Not to mention that I see no reason an atheist would be less tolerant than a Christian.
Then again, people best tolerate those similar to themselves. It would make sense that if you are a Republican, you would receive better reactions from fellow Republicans. Whereas I place very high value on education, and rarely find myself at odds with those who are genuinely intellectual.

I've known some very compasionate, accepting very right-wing Republicans.  The people that I find that are most unaccepting are the very conservative religious people/groups.  But each person is an individual - you just need to find out about a person by getting to know them.
-Julie

Quote from: julies2000ma on April 18, 2011, 08:33:21 AM
But each person is an individual - you just need to find out about a person by getting to know them.

This.

Isn't that what we do when we explain to people about being TG? We want them to understand that we are just people.
Republicans, Christian, conservatives, they are all just people. Get to know them, some of them are very nice.

Quote from: Nikolai_S on April 18, 2011, 12:50:46 AMThere's no way of phrasing this that doesn't sound entirely snobbish, but an intelligent, educated person is not only more likely to already know about trans issues, but more willing to discuss it logically and be less swayed by automatic prejudices.

I've found this to be true too. But we can't assume an educated person will automatically be accepting or supportive.

One of the problems I have over the way political alignment seems to be defined is the attitudes to war.

Capitalists should be more opposed to war than anyone since it destroys everything they stand for. Free markets, enterprise, minimal government, employment mobility and so on. Yet the apparently pro capitalists groups seem to be most associated with war.

Irrelevant I suppose, but thought I'd put it in.

I'm so glad I do not live in a State that actually has people registered to a particular party.  Unfortunately I also live in a State that has judges running on party tickets which means we get some crappy judges on the bench in major elections that have a bunch of idiots who just vote straight-ticket ballots.   

FWIW, I am a politician's worst nightmare- an informed voter who looks at the candidate's individual qualification and stance on issues important to MY life.  I have given money to candidates of both major parties. 

Oh and I will have no problems with mocking elected individuals no matter what party they belong to when they fail to do what is promised...no matter if they are a local council member or occupying a large house on Pennsylvania Avenue.