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Title: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: tori319 on April 22, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
Post by: tori319 on April 22, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
Have you noticed your hands or feet getting any slimmer or smaller? If so how long have you been on hrt?
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: JungianZoe on April 22, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
Post by: JungianZoe on April 22, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
Haven't noticed any of that, but I've only been on HRT for seven months (though only four of them really count). Sure would be nice though since I'm quite disproportional! 5'11" with women's size 12 feet, a 6'8" armspan, and hands that can palm a basketball with ease. Some shrinkage would be exquisite. ;D
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 07:35:11 AM
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 07:35:11 AM
:(
I've always had tiny hands and that was one of the things I was told would help me pass
My feet lost between 1/2 and a full shoe size. I'm not sure if that's from HRT or just getting older but it surprised me
Quote from: tori319 on April 22, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
Have you noticed your hands or feet getting any slimmer or smaller? If so how long have you been on hrt?
I've always had tiny hands and that was one of the things I was told would help me pass
My feet lost between 1/2 and a full shoe size. I'm not sure if that's from HRT or just getting older but it surprised me
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Rock_chick on April 23, 2011, 10:10:19 AM
Post by: Rock_chick on April 23, 2011, 10:10:19 AM
Yes is the short answer, none of my rings fit now
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:16:09 AM
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: Helena on April 23, 2011, 10:10:19 AM
Yes is the short answer, none of my rings fit now
Loss of muscle maybe?
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Melody Maia on April 23, 2011, 10:19:59 AM
Post by: Melody Maia on April 23, 2011, 10:19:59 AM
All I know is that my favorite pair of Steve Madden blue suede stilettos now require one of those gel pads at the heel to stay on my feet. At US size 10, they used to fit perfectly. I think I am between a 10 and a 9.5 now.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: azSam on April 23, 2011, 10:22:39 AM
Post by: azSam on April 23, 2011, 10:22:39 AM
I have noticed nothing significant. I've always had healthy hands for my size, the piano and guitar helps with that. As for my feet, they're still around a 10, and wide. :'(
Shoe shopping is a little bit difficult. I tend to lean more toward open toe stuff.
Shoe shopping is a little bit difficult. I tend to lean more toward open toe stuff.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:29:12 AM
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: SamanthaFLA on April 23, 2011, 10:22:39 AM
I have noticed nothing significant. I've always had healthy hands for my size, the piano and guitar helps with that. As for my feet, they're still around a 10, and wide. :'(
Shoe shopping is a little bit difficult. I tend to lean more toward open toe stuff.
I've played guitar for 33 years, it never changed anything about my hands
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 10:42:32 AM
Post by: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: SamanthaFLA on April 23, 2011, 10:22:39 AM
I have noticed nothing significant. I've always had healthy hands for my size, the piano and guitar helps with that. As for my feet, they're still around a 10, and wide. :'(
Shoe shopping is a little bit difficult. I tend to lean more toward open toe stuff.
I took up piano after realizing I had a 15-key reach and might be able to do something with it... :laugh:
Some of your shoe stories are giving me hope, but I don't think I'd ever shrink enough to fit into the store-maximum size 11. I'm 10 1/2 mens (12 womens) so online shopping is my only hope now. The problem is that options for oversized feet come with oversized prices that will make shoe-buying an investment rather than a purchase.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:52:43 AM
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:52:43 AM
Quote from: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 10:42:32 AM
I took up piano after realizing I had a 15-key reach and might be able to do something with it... :laugh:
Some of your shoe stories are giving me hope, but I don't think I'd ever shrink enough to fit into the store-maximum size 11. I'm 10 1/2 mens (12 womens) so online shopping is my only hope now. The problem is that options for oversized feet come with oversized prices that will make shoe-buying an investment rather than a purchase.
I used to be a size 10 now I'm between a 9 and a 9 1/2
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 11:05:25 AM
Post by: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:52:43 AM
I used to be a size 10 now I'm between a 9 and a 9 1/2
Oh good... more hope! ;D
What would be the biological mechanism of foot shrinkage? I know HRT can't change bone structure, so how would this function?
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 11:16:11 AM
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 11:16:11 AM
Quote from: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 11:05:25 AM
Oh good... more hope! ;D
What would be the biological mechanism of foot shrinkage? I know HRT can't change bone structure, so how would this function?
Honestly I have no idea, maybe loss of muscle and cartilidge?
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Melody Maia on April 23, 2011, 11:43:55 AM
Post by: Melody Maia on April 23, 2011, 11:43:55 AM
Yes, soft tissue shrinkage. You get it in your spine too. Some people lose a bit of height.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Rock_chick on April 23, 2011, 12:20:14 PM
Post by: Rock_chick on April 23, 2011, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:16:09 AM
Loss of muscle maybe?
Probably...it's not dramatic slimming of the fingers, but it is enough.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 12:25:26 PM
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 12:25:26 PM
Quote from: Melody Maia on April 23, 2011, 11:43:55 AM
Yes, soft tissue shrinkage. You get it in your spine too. Some people lose a bit of height.
I've lost 1" of height on hrt fir sure
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 12:29:43 PM
Post by: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 12:29:43 PM
I wouldn't mind some loss of height, but not from my spine! I'm already made of legs and little else. :laugh:
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 12:46:51 PM
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: JungianZoe on April 23, 2011, 12:29:43 PM
I wouldn't mind some loss of height, but not from my spine! I'm already made of legs and little else. :laugh:
Lol me too! I'm now 5'8" with a 33" leg
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Melody Maia on April 23, 2011, 01:05:30 PM
Post by: Melody Maia on April 23, 2011, 01:05:30 PM
I started at 5'6" with a 27" inseam. Wouldn't mind a bit of loss in my torso area. Haven't measured myself since the baselines back in October of last year.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: tori319 on April 23, 2011, 01:43:56 PM
Post by: tori319 on April 23, 2011, 01:43:56 PM
I don't want to lose too much height. It took me a while by I'm comfortable with it now. I'm 5"8'.9 so I wouldn't mind being 5"8' exactly but no less than that. I do however hate my hands and my size 11-12 in mens feet.I'm crossing my fingers.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: JennX on April 23, 2011, 05:56:46 PM
Post by: JennX on April 23, 2011, 05:56:46 PM
I've lost about 1 inch in height, and went from a women's size 9 to 8 in shoes. I've been on HRT for ~ 8 months. So yep, you may experience some shrinkage. ;)
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Caith on April 24, 2011, 08:11:58 AM
Post by: Caith on April 24, 2011, 08:11:58 AM
Quote from: tori319 on April 23, 2011, 01:43:56 PMDear lady, I share your disfavor with hands and feet. I wear a size 13 mens. :o
I don't want to lose too much height. It took me a while by I'm comfortable with it now. I'm 5"8'.9 so I wouldn't mind being 5"8' exactly but no less than that. I do however hate my hands and my size 11-12 in mens feet.I'm crossing my fingers.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Suzy on April 24, 2011, 09:03:34 AM
Post by: Suzy on April 24, 2011, 09:03:34 AM
Quote from: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 10:29:12 AM
I've played guitar for 33 years, it never changed anything about my hands
I have played for about that long too. I do have crazy callouses on my fingers, and have to keep my nails shorter though. As for shoe size, over two years I have gone from a women's 9 to 8 US.
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Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 24, 2011, 09:40:04 AM
Post by: Karynm8621 on April 24, 2011, 09:40:04 AM
Quote from: Kristi on April 24, 2011, 09:03:34 AM
I have played for about that long too. I do have crazy callouses on my fingers, and have to keep my nails shorter though. As for shoe size, over to years I have gone from a women's 9 to 8 US.
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I'd love to be down to an 8
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: JungianZoe on April 24, 2011, 09:45:58 AM
Post by: JungianZoe on April 24, 2011, 09:45:58 AM
Quote from: Karynm8621 on April 23, 2011, 12:46:51 PM
Lol me too! I'm now 5'8" with a 33" leg
I'm 5'11" with a 31" leg... after seeing your measurements, I will never complain about my disproportional legs again. :laugh:
Actually, my legs might be okay for my height, but my spine is so short because of curvature. I'm very careful about my posture these days, but I tended to walk with a sulk as a child (probably the result of getting the crap beaten out of my at my dad's house on a regular basis).
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Melody Maia on April 24, 2011, 12:53:42 PM
Post by: Melody Maia on April 24, 2011, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Kristi on April 24, 2011, 09:03:34 AM
I have played for about that long too. I do have crazy callouses on my fingers, and have to keep my nails shorter though. As for shoe size, over two years I have gone from a women's 9 to 8 US.
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I've seen Kristi play and she is wonderful. I'll be happy if I can get to a 9.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: tatiana on April 24, 2011, 08:04:30 PM
Post by: tatiana on April 24, 2011, 08:04:30 PM
No change. HRT doesn't change the bone structure... maybe minor adjustments but definitely doesn't change much. Exceptions have been some people's feet and height, but it varies on the individual.
Now, only if they can come up with procedures to control bone formation, I'd be one happy lady... smaller hands, smaller feet, shorter, wider hips, and less broad shoulders.
Now, only if they can come up with procedures to control bone formation, I'd be one happy lady... smaller hands, smaller feet, shorter, wider hips, and less broad shoulders.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Just Shelly on April 24, 2011, 08:32:12 PM
Post by: Just Shelly on April 24, 2011, 08:32:12 PM
I definitely lost at least a 1/2" on height, I'm not sure the exact because I never measured myself for years. 5'7" now
My feet have shrunk a little but not sure if its the hrt, I found I could wear a mens 7 before hrt just in wide. I'm now women's 8W or 8 1/2A. I'm fairly lucky its a common size for woman so plenty to choose from. Ya like I really need another pair ;) I actually see more woman shopping in the larger sizes when I'm shopping for shoes.
I definitely loss alot of muscle in chest area, not that I had much to start but I usually can wear small tops medium at most, it doesn't hurt that the BB's are on the small side.
Oh the hands 3" span don't think hrt changed that, I always had dinky hands for a guy, I now think there huge for womens, I wish they were be longer though.
Zoe for as big of hands you say you have I think they look great! :D
My feet have shrunk a little but not sure if its the hrt, I found I could wear a mens 7 before hrt just in wide. I'm now women's 8W or 8 1/2A. I'm fairly lucky its a common size for woman so plenty to choose from. Ya like I really need another pair ;) I actually see more woman shopping in the larger sizes when I'm shopping for shoes.
I definitely loss alot of muscle in chest area, not that I had much to start but I usually can wear small tops medium at most, it doesn't hurt that the BB's are on the small side.
Oh the hands 3" span don't think hrt changed that, I always had dinky hands for a guy, I now think there huge for womens, I wish they were be longer though.
Zoe for as big of hands you say you have I think they look great! :D
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: JessicaH on April 24, 2011, 08:49:28 PM
Post by: JessicaH on April 24, 2011, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: JungianZoe on April 24, 2011, 09:45:58 AM
I'm 5'11" with a 31" leg... after seeing your measurements, I will never complain about my disproportional legs again. :laugh:
You don't sound overly "leggy" to me. My wife is an a ttractive woman and she is 5'10" and a 36" inseam. She's about 155-160 lbs and a size 7 or 8 and looks way better than most 41 year old women.
I on the other hand, am 5'10.5" and wear a 30" inseam which makes me very disproportionate with such a long torso which I REALLY hate. Leggy is MUCH more attractive than short legs long torso... I am lucky that I can wear a size 11 womens which a lot of stores carry, although it is usually the largest size and not a huge selection. I'm really hoping I can get down to a woens 10.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: Susan Kay on April 24, 2011, 09:31:33 PM
Post by: Susan Kay on April 24, 2011, 09:31:33 PM
Well, there's hope. I'm 5' 11-99/100" tall ( I will not be a six foot woman!) 13 months on HT. My feet measure at size 11-1/2. Try and find that size - it's squeeze into 11s or try to find 12s. A real choice in that size, 3 or 4 pair maybe; usually they don't even carry higher than 11. Or e-buy, at exorbitant prices. I feel like my fingers have shrunk a bit and look more graceful; I used to think they were such sausages; they do look better now. Of course I look better overall now, comparatively speaking. My shoulders are definitely narrower - T-shirts that had the shoulder seams right at the top now have them 2 or 3 inches down the arm. According to measurements, the bulk from the shoulders moved directly to the breasts. :D A move in the right direction.
Bring on the redistribution!
Susan Kay
Bring on the redistribution!
Susan Kay
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: soulfairer on April 24, 2011, 11:08:02 PM
Post by: soulfairer on April 24, 2011, 11:08:02 PM
Ah, how do you measure legs? Is there a section where we can make our "standards"? One of the measures I found was from the floor to hip, but as I came with 103cm (40.5") I found them disproportional to what you reported here (I am 5'8", 1.72m (battling with cm/in, heh)). The jeans inseam (skinny jeans) is 84cm (~33"). Or may my legs be really long? :)))))
PS: noticed I shrunk. Was to report 5'9" but that has changed also... Wearing ~7 1/2 US shoes (24.5cm) - was 25.5cm, US 9. Weird is, I already wore 26cm (US 9.5) someday, and that went to 25.5cm without HRT. Ah, I am 30. Happy that I am "leggier" (shrunk height, leg didn't change)!
PS: noticed I shrunk. Was to report 5'9" but that has changed also... Wearing ~7 1/2 US shoes (24.5cm) - was 25.5cm, US 9. Weird is, I already wore 26cm (US 9.5) someday, and that went to 25.5cm without HRT. Ah, I am 30. Happy that I am "leggier" (shrunk height, leg didn't change)!
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: BunnyBee on April 24, 2011, 11:43:15 PM
Post by: BunnyBee on April 24, 2011, 11:43:15 PM
Quote from: JungianZoe on April 22, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
Haven't noticed any of that, but I've only been on HRT for seven months (though only four of them really count). Sure would be nice though since I'm quite disproportional! 5'11" with women's size 12 feet, a 6'8" armspan, and hands that can palm a basketball with ease. Some shrinkage would be exquisite. ;D
My goodness you're like a monkey with those arms!
I have a good answer for this because I recently bought unisex shoes, chuck taylor things, and they had men's size on the box with the women's. Seeing that size, I was shocked at how much smaller my feet are than before. 2-3 size shrinkage. I'll say closer to 2, just cause I know I used to buy shoes a bit big and I know these shoes run big.
My fingers haven't shrunk. They're actually fatter than before, but then so is my body lol (cry) so I think they've just come with.
I may have shrunk a half inch, but certainly not enough when you're 6'2"+. I need to lose inches like some of the other peeps I've heard of.
BTW nordstrom.com is a great place for larger shoes if you don't mind paying for quality, which I certainly don't.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: JungianZoe on April 25, 2011, 12:42:28 AM
Post by: JungianZoe on April 25, 2011, 12:42:28 AM
Quote from: Jen on April 24, 2011, 11:43:15 PM
My goodness you're like a monkey with those arms!
I have a good answer for this because I recently bought unisex shoes, chuck taylor things, and they had men's size on the box with the women's. Seeing that size, I was shocked at how much smaller my feet are than before. 2-3 size shrinkage. I'll say closer to 2, just cause I know I used to buy shoes a bit big and I know these shoes run big.
Ugh... bad flashbacks to junior high when the other boys all called me "monkey arms" before pushing me down and kicking the crap out of me. Sorry. :laugh:
I also got a pair of Chucks this past Tuesday to replace my ratty old ones, and was saddened to see they had abandoned half sizes. I was a perfect 9 1/2 mens (they ran a size down as I was 10 1/2 in any other shoe) and so I had to buy 10s that my feet swim in. Not only that, but they make my feet look even bigger than before. But I've worn Chucks since 6th grade and I simply wasn't going to stop now! Definitely no foot shrinkage yet, as the size 9 didn't fit.
Title: Re: Are they any slimmer or smaller?
Post by: BunnyBee on April 25, 2011, 10:37:51 AM
Post by: BunnyBee on April 25, 2011, 10:37:51 AM
Oops sorry! I didn't mean to dredge up bad memories for you. It just reminded me of a friend of mine's wife who's hands came below her knees and she used to show off how long her arms were all the time lol.
My arms are almost as long as yours btw, but I'm a few inches taller. Trust me, I would take your proportions in a heartbeat..
My arms are almost as long as yours btw, but I'm a few inches taller. Trust me, I would take your proportions in a heartbeat..