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Title: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: JessicaH on May 18, 2011, 04:44:11 PM
Post by: JessicaH on May 18, 2011, 04:44:11 PM
I finally had my appointment with the doctor that my therapist set me up with and as I was hoping, I walked out with legit scripts for estrace, spiro and finasteride. I was nervous at first to talk openly about being TG around yet another person that I just met but, he seemed very caring and compassionate and seemed 100% on board with my goal.
He didn't have any experience in prescribing HRT but I guided him through common dosages. I was taking E injections and I wanted to switch to pills since it seems like the shots hurt more each time. He ordered blood tests to evaluate E & T levels as well as prolactin and others. He did say he wanted me to see a specialist within 6 months to look over everything. There is a gender clinic in Galveston so that wont be a problem.
I'm not sure if the therapist sent him a letter but I wasnt asked to sign an informed consent or anything like that. I also told him that I had done a series of ethyl alcohol injectios to destoy the testicles. He seemed concerned and said it sounded painful and that I should just have them removed if I want to get rid of them that bad. It was kind of funny the way he mentioned several times, "that must have hurt!". lol It's kind of funny to see a doctor get a little squeemish..... >:-)
So far, it has all gone much easier than I ever imagined.
He didn't have any experience in prescribing HRT but I guided him through common dosages. I was taking E injections and I wanted to switch to pills since it seems like the shots hurt more each time. He ordered blood tests to evaluate E & T levels as well as prolactin and others. He did say he wanted me to see a specialist within 6 months to look over everything. There is a gender clinic in Galveston so that wont be a problem.
I'm not sure if the therapist sent him a letter but I wasnt asked to sign an informed consent or anything like that. I also told him that I had done a series of ethyl alcohol injectios to destoy the testicles. He seemed concerned and said it sounded painful and that I should just have them removed if I want to get rid of them that bad. It was kind of funny the way he mentioned several times, "that must have hurt!". lol It's kind of funny to see a doctor get a little squeemish..... >:-)
So far, it has all gone much easier than I ever imagined.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Colleen Ireland on May 18, 2011, 09:14:11 PM
Post by: Colleen Ireland on May 18, 2011, 09:14:11 PM
Congrats, girl, welcome to the dark side! Hey, Janet Lynn, pass her some cookies!
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Janet_Girl on May 18, 2011, 09:36:25 PM
Post by: Janet_Girl on May 18, 2011, 09:36:25 PM
>:-) >:-) >:-) >:-) >:-) >:-)
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Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Muffins on May 18, 2011, 10:53:30 PM
Post by: Muffins on May 18, 2011, 10:53:30 PM
^^lols...
legit scripts are awesome and so are blood tests! I had a few issues that were picked up in my blood work that if I hadn't could of been problematic. In a strange way I miss those times....good times!!!!
...well not the stressing over hyperprolactinemia and anemia parts :/
^___^
legit scripts are awesome and so are blood tests! I had a few issues that were picked up in my blood work that if I hadn't could of been problematic. In a strange way I miss those times....good times!!!!
...well not the stressing over hyperprolactinemia and anemia parts :/
^___^
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Colleen Ireland on May 19, 2011, 05:58:54 AM
Post by: Colleen Ireland on May 19, 2011, 05:58:54 AM
OMG, Janet, I just spewed coffee all over my monitor - you totally owe me a new one, lol! LOVE that second picture, and how TOTALLY it's the opposite of the first! Hehe!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Suzy on May 19, 2011, 07:28:20 AM
Post by: Suzy on May 19, 2011, 07:28:20 AM
Hey, congratulations, honey! Well done!
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Tammy Hope on May 27, 2011, 02:29:13 AM
Post by: Tammy Hope on May 27, 2011, 02:29:13 AM
Quote. I also told him that I had done a series of ethyl alcohol injections to destoy the testicles.
wait - WHAT?
Someone explain this to me (via PM if necessary).
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Keroppi on May 28, 2011, 03:43:35 AM
Post by: Keroppi on May 28, 2011, 03:43:35 AM
Quote from: Tammy Hope on May 27, 2011, 02:29:13 AMNOT recommended!Quote. I also told him that I had done a series of ethyl alcohol injections to destoy the testicles.wait - WHAT?
Someone explain this to me (via PM if necessary).
Basically some people have been known to inject high concentration unflavoured alcohol into their testicles. While it has been known to work ending up shrinking and hardening the testicles lowering testosterone production, the risk is very high even if one do everything right. And that's not counting the likelihood of doing something very wrong. For example, any impurities in the alcohol could seriously damages one's health. It's not unknown for the testicles to end up swelling to unnaturally large size causing great pain.
NOT recommended!
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: JulieC. on May 28, 2011, 03:14:11 PM
Post by: JulieC. on May 28, 2011, 03:14:11 PM
OUCH! OUCH! OUCH! Little squeamish here too. It does show your determination. Congrats with your legal scripts.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Tammy Hope on May 30, 2011, 02:36:48 PM
Post by: Tammy Hope on May 30, 2011, 02:36:48 PM
Quote from: Keroppi on May 28, 2011, 03:43:35 AM
wait - WHAT?
Someone explain this to me (via PM if necessary).
NOT recommended!
Basically some people have been known to inject high concentration unflavoured alcohol into their testicles. While it has been known to work ending up shrinking and hardening the testicles lowering testosterone production, the risk is very high even if one do everything right. And that's not counting the likelihood of doing something very wrong. For example, any impurities in the alcohol could seriously damages one's health. It's not unknown for the testicles to end up swelling to unnaturally large size causing great pain.
NOT recommended!
I'm not remotely brave enough for such things. At least not as long as I'm sane.
10 or 12 years of frustration from now i might not be, lol.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Suzy on May 31, 2011, 02:02:43 PM
Post by: Suzy on May 31, 2011, 02:02:43 PM
Quote from: Keroppi on May 28, 2011, 03:43:35 AM
wait - WHAT?
Someone explain this to me (via PM if necessary).
NOT recommended!
Basically some people have been known to inject high concentration unflavoured alcohol into their testicles. While it has been known to work ending up shrinking and hardening the testicles lowering testosterone production, the risk is very high even if one do everything right. And that's not counting the likelihood of doing something very wrong. For example, any impurities in the alcohol could seriously damages one's health. It's not unknown for the testicles to end up swelling to unnaturally large size causing great pain.
NOT recommended!
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Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: cynthialee on May 31, 2011, 02:22:39 PM
Post by: cynthialee on May 31, 2011, 02:22:39 PM
OMG that is a horrid idea!
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: JessicaH on May 31, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
Post by: JessicaH on May 31, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
While I certainly won't recommend it to anyone, it is based on solid medical practices that use a sclerosing agent to to shrink a tumor or mass of cells. All I want to say about the procedure (for public safety reasons) is to NEVER inject, drink or otherwise place in the body, any alcohol that is not fit to drink. Rubbing (Isopropanal or denatured) is VERY poisionous and will kill you or cause serious neurological damage.
Quote from: Keroppi on May 28, 2011, 03:43:35 AM
wait - WHAT?
Someone explain this to me (via PM if necessary).
NOT recommended!
Basically some people have been known to inject high concentration unflavoured alcohol into their testicles. While it has been known to work ending up shrinking and hardening the testicles lowering testosterone production, the risk is very high even if one do everything right. And that's not counting the likelihood of doing something very wrong. For example, any impurities in the alcohol could seriously damages one's health. It's not unknown for the testicles to end up swelling to unnaturally large size causing great pain.
NOT recommended!
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Keroppi on June 01, 2011, 02:48:51 AM
Post by: Keroppi on June 01, 2011, 02:48:51 AM
Quoteit is based on solid medical practices that use a sclerosing agent to to shrink a tumor or mass of cells.Maybe, but they tend to do that with medical grade liquid and not vodka and neutral grain spirit bought from the local shop. ;)
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: annette on June 01, 2011, 04:50:29 AM
Post by: annette on June 01, 2011, 04:50:29 AM
Hi Stacey
congrats, girl
You're on your way, keep going.
hugs
Annette
congrats, girl
You're on your way, keep going.
hugs
Annette
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Tammy Hope on June 01, 2011, 11:42:50 PM
Post by: Tammy Hope on June 01, 2011, 11:42:50 PM
Quote from: cynthialee on May 31, 2011, 02:22:39 PM
OMG that is a horrid idea!
I can wrap my mind around someone being desperate enough to try it having been told it works.
What I can't figure out is what the person must have been thinking who first tried it?
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: pebbles on June 02, 2011, 02:21:39 AM
Post by: pebbles on June 02, 2011, 02:21:39 AM
I've tried it... Honestly. I was unable to get any more hormone blockers for a time due to the illegality of what I'm dependant on. I used this as my last resort as simply hacking them out would probably kill me. I also abused my testicles alot when I was a teenager.
It hurt... Alot... like screaming for 3 hours, my testicles have decided scars in them now and an abbrent shape my scrotum dose not. The temptation is to continue but knowlege of how much it hurts made me flinch last time causing me to drop the syringe.
The technique was first used on lab rats as a non-surgical method of castration. using anethesia on small mammals is inordinately dangerous.
It hurt... Alot... like screaming for 3 hours, my testicles have decided scars in them now and an abbrent shape my scrotum dose not. The temptation is to continue but knowlege of how much it hurts made me flinch last time causing me to drop the syringe.
The technique was first used on lab rats as a non-surgical method of castration. using anethesia on small mammals is inordinately dangerous.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: JessicaH on June 03, 2011, 08:15:50 AM
Post by: JessicaH on June 03, 2011, 08:15:50 AM
Quote from: Keroppi on June 01, 2011, 02:48:51 AM
Maybe, but they tend to do that with medical grade liquid and not vodka and neutral grain spirit bought from the local shop. ;)
I really don't think you get much more pure than Everclear which is crystal clear and 95% pure ethyl alcohol. Being a powerful disinfectant on it's own, you also don't have to worry about it being steril. I studied this for MANY hours and I am also very knowledgable in medical science.
I have talked to a lot of people who have done this and the only real complication that I have heard reported was short term pain. I couldn't do it any more after about 5 or 6 rounds and it was only uncomfortable for about 30 minutes. The pressure buildup inside is the worst part. It didn't sting but felt more like right after being kicked in the crotch.
Again, I'm not advocating this to anyone. In my opinion though, it is better than other options if you aren't going to have an legit surgeon do it which IS what I would recommend !
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: cynthialee on June 03, 2011, 02:56:53 PM
Post by: cynthialee on June 03, 2011, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: StacyBeaumont on June 03, 2011, 08:15:50 AMI ussed to have a reflux still that I could get 198 proof out of. :) Everclear is 190 proof.
I really don't think you get much more pure than Everclear which is crystal clear and 95% pure ethyl alcohol. Being a powerful disinfectant on it's own, you also don't have to worry about it being steril. I studied this for MANY hours and I am also very knowledgable in medical science.
I still have a small jar of that stuff around here somewhere.
:)
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Bird on June 09, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
Post by: Bird on June 09, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
Complications arise when the procedure is not done right.
Right off the bat, you can get infections. A testicle infection on top of the pain of the alcohol injection sounds very unfun. But you know, we go trough such great levels of pain this doesn't surprises me. I can see myself a candidate for it if I had not began HRT.
Right off the bat, you can get infections. A testicle infection on top of the pain of the alcohol injection sounds very unfun. But you know, we go trough such great levels of pain this doesn't surprises me. I can see myself a candidate for it if I had not began HRT.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: cynthialee on June 10, 2011, 10:49:30 AM
Post by: cynthialee on June 10, 2011, 10:49:30 AM
Why go this route when you could lie about serious pain and get an orchi?
I got an orchi solely bassed on my say so that I was living with unremiting pain. It was true, but there is no way to test to verify for pain. Granted I had some deformities and cysts down there, but I had 3 doctors independantly assert that the issues I had downstairs could not have accounted for the pain I was having . Also none of them could nail down any reason why I was experiancing pains so they had to go on my assertion I was in pain. No evidence to prove this was needed to get the orchi. I just had to constantly whine and fuss at the doctors for a number of months.
I got an orchi solely bassed on my say so that I was living with unremiting pain. It was true, but there is no way to test to verify for pain. Granted I had some deformities and cysts down there, but I had 3 doctors independantly assert that the issues I had downstairs could not have accounted for the pain I was having . Also none of them could nail down any reason why I was experiancing pains so they had to go on my assertion I was in pain. No evidence to prove this was needed to get the orchi. I just had to constantly whine and fuss at the doctors for a number of months.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: JessicaH on June 10, 2011, 01:24:19 PM
Post by: JessicaH on June 10, 2011, 01:24:19 PM
On another board (eunuch.org) there are countless guys who have tried that route and they spent thousands of dollars and surgeons still wouldn't remove them. By the way they act about testes, you would think it were half of the brain.
On the other hand, in the shrunken and lumpy condition that mine are in, I could probably get mine removed pretty easy by just asking. I'm sure my doc would even recommend it. I will most likely go that route this year but I need to deal with some issues with my wife first.
On the other hand, in the shrunken and lumpy condition that mine are in, I could probably get mine removed pretty easy by just asking. I'm sure my doc would even recommend it. I will most likely go that route this year but I need to deal with some issues with my wife first.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Keroppi on June 10, 2011, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: Keroppi on June 10, 2011, 02:56:00 PM
Quote from: StacyBeaumont on June 10, 2011, 01:24:19 PMWhere do you think I learned enough information on the subject to describe it in the first place? ;) :D
On another board ......
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Tammy Hope on June 10, 2011, 06:53:20 PM
Post by: Tammy Hope on June 10, 2011, 06:53:20 PM
Quote from: cynthialee on June 10, 2011, 10:49:30 AM
Why go this route when you could lie about serious pain and get an orchi?
I got an orchi solely bassed on my say so that I was living with unremiting pain. It was true, but there is no way to test to verify for pain. Granted I had some deformities and cysts down there, but I had 3 doctors independantly assert that the issues I had downstairs could not have accounted for the pain I was having . Also none of them could nail down any reason why I was experiancing pains so they had to go on my assertion I was in pain. No evidence to prove this was needed to get the orchi. I just had to constantly whine and fuss at the doctors for a number of months.
sounds like a plan - IF you are insured or can afford that much doctoring.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: JessicaH on June 10, 2011, 09:21:25 PM
Post by: JessicaH on June 10, 2011, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: Keroppi on June 10, 2011, 02:56:00 PM
Where do you think I learned enough information on the subject to describe it in the first place? ;) :D
I figured you read some about it there. Many have had success with it with little pain. I couldnt go past 6 rounds due to pan but pleased with results.
Title: Re: Got legit scripts today!
Post by: Bird on June 11, 2011, 11:43:59 AM
Post by: Bird on June 11, 2011, 11:43:59 AM
Does removing your male gonads interferes with GRS?