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Title: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Shana A on July 03, 2011, 11:01:43 AM
How I Learned to Hate Transgender People

    Cord Jefferson
    June 30, 2011 • 7:00 am PDT

http://www.good.is/post/how-i-learned-to-hate-transgender-people/ (http://www.good.is/post/how-i-learned-to-hate-transgender-people/)

The first time I openly laughed at a transgender person I was 12 years old. It was February, but I grew up in Tucson, Arizona, so the movie theater in which I was seeing Ace Ventura: Pet Detective had the AC on. The laughter helped me shake off the chill.

We, the audience, had just learned that Sean Young's character, Lt. Lois Einhorn, was transgender. Prior to identifying herself as Lois Einhorn, she'd been the pro football player Ray Finkle, who everyone thought was an at-large criminal. "Einhorn is Finkle!" screamed Jim Carrey, cracking the case before our very eyes. "Finkle is Einhorn! Einhorn is a man!" Then, more to himself: "Einhorn is a man?" Then he went to vomit.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Padma on July 03, 2011, 11:41:20 AM
The only thing I wanted to add to this is that the Jim Carrey "joke" is relying on homophobia too - the "awfulness" of a man kissing another man - which also deserves a mention in the Hall of Shame.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Amazon D on July 03, 2011, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: Valeriedances on July 03, 2011, 11:31:57 AM
Wow, good article.

DITTO
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Julie Marie on July 03, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
The repulsion exhibited by "straight" men by even the slightest thought of intimacy with another man always leads me to "methinks thou dost protest too much."
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Padma on July 03, 2011, 01:29:12 PM
I'm ashamed to say I did that myself as a closeted teenager. But that's mostly out of fear of being ostracised, rather than fear of being thought gay. If there was nothing wrong with being gay, men wouldn't fear being labelled as such.

And films like Jim Carrey's are made to capitalise on that fear, and then they reinforce it.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: tekla on July 03, 2011, 01:43:13 PM
It's a real shame because I remember Jim Carey before he sank this low.  He was a scholar, statesman, a humanitarian and a poet, when he wasn't busy adopting orphans from war zones he was building universities for the underprivileged by hand.  Oh, no.  Wait.  He was Fire Marshall Bill.

The idea was that no reasonable person would, or could, construe anything in Ace Ventura, Pet Detective as serious, realistic or meaningful.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: spacial on July 03, 2011, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Julie Marie on July 03, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
The repulsion exhibited by "straight" men by even the slightest thought of intimacy with another man always leads me to "methinks thou dost protest too much."

I feel the same way.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Julie Marie on July 04, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: tekla on July 03, 2011, 01:43:13 PMThe idea was that no reasonable person would, or could, construe anything in Ace Ventura, Pet Detective as serious, realistic or meaningful.

You did say "reasonable."  That eliminates a lot of people when it comes to things transgender.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: LordKAT on July 04, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: Julie Marie on July 04, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
You did say "reasonable."  That eliminates a lot of people when it comes to things transgender.

This is the fact that causes me the most grief.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: VeryGnawty on July 04, 2011, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: Julie Marie on July 04, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
You did say "reasonable."  That eliminates a lot of people when it comes to things transgender

Fixed.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Lisbeth on July 04, 2011, 06:53:21 PM
Quote from: Padma on July 03, 2011, 01:29:12 PM
If there was nothing wrong with being gay, men wouldn't fear being labelled as such.
Well, there's the problem. There isn't anything wrong with being gay; people are shamed into thinking there is.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Hikari on July 04, 2011, 09:57:32 PM
This was a well thought out article, honestly I wish more people looked at things an seen just how humor can reinforce negative things in society. It is a powerful thing, but one that needs to be used responsibly.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: arbon on July 04, 2011, 11:07:09 PM
Throughout most of my life trans people were always portrayed in a bad way by the media, and the message from family and society went right along with that negative image, reinforced it. It was not alright. Being trans (or gay, in my mind at least) was not something you wanted to grow up to be.  Not only did others learn to hate us but I learned pretty young to seriously  hate myself to.

Thank god things are getting better.

Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Joelene9 on July 05, 2011, 02:17:33 AM
  I remembered the mess called "Myra Breckenridge" by Gore Vidal.  This piece decries the mechanism of Hollywood more than Raquel Welch's transsexual movie character. 
  Joelene
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: justmeinoz on July 05, 2011, 03:05:11 AM
Local comedian addressed the question of his supposed  gayness a little whils ago.  He took cookery in High School, instead of playing Rugby.
"I'm gay?  Because I'm in here icing cakes with 30 chicks and you're taking showers together?"
Karen.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: Julie Marie on July 05, 2011, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Lisbeth on July 04, 2011, 06:53:21 PM
Well, there's the problem. There isn't anything wrong with being gay; people are shamed into thinking there is.

More like brainwashed...  We humans are big on that.
Title: Re: How I Learned to Hate Transgender People
Post by: VeryGnawty on July 05, 2011, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: Julie Marie on July 05, 2011, 09:23:05 AM
More like brainwashed...  We humans are big on that.

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