i take no credit. a friend sent me this and this guy is a freaking genius. it's so stupidly simple i don't think most people even think to try.
Another way to "Go" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-oNgz6waQk#)
skip ahead to 1:30 for the main idea
Seems like a good way to end up pissing all over yourself. Let me know if it works well.
thats what i thought at first but ive done it about 10 times barely pulling my pants down at all and never had an accident once. who knew it was so easy to stp all this time!?!?!?
I've seen this once before and it seems pretty awesome but it makes me nervous the same reason STP's do. The worry of what if it goes wrong at work? Might be worth a shot if I hear a few more people say it's worked well for them though. RyGuy was it really as simple as he makes it seem?
Deviceless, I always had to use at least one hand. Takes a loooot of practice, ha. I could never get the hang of it with pants on, or without bending back like a pregnant person impersonating Tinman.
Some people are very lucky, hahaa.
yep i sent it directly to two of my trans friends and my brother (we're both ftm go figure) and they all tried it with clothes on and it really is that simple. don't bother with any of that "fingers in a v and spread" business that just sounds inappropriate and disgusting. seriously THE ONLY THING you have to do is drop your pants a couple inches, put your hand on the wall so that your pelvic area is somewhat above the toilet, and piss normally.
yea i remember when i first found this guy. i actually talked to him bc he lived near me at the time
i do this all the time in the stalls on campus and in other public places since i cant afford a packer/stp (id like to use urinals eventually)
im so broke cant even get the 25 i need haha
but yea bro when i found that vid i was like "->-bleeped-<- yeaa"
Quote from: lyrikal on July 17, 2011, 11:04:51 PM
yea i remember when i first found this guy. i actually talked to him bc he lived near me at the time
i do this all the time in the stalls on campus and in other public places since i cant afford a packer/stp (id like to use urinals eventually)
im so broke cant even get the 25 i need haha
but yea bro when i found that vid i was like "<not allowed> yeaa"
Go figure! Cade and I are actually friends from school! He's a phenomenal go-to for pointers and advice. Great guy. We don't get to hang as much since I moved though :(
small world! thats crazy haha where you move to
Chicago. Lincoln Park. Not terribly far, but between both our work and school schedules it doesn't leave as much free time for frequent commuting.
Okay, I just tried to this and it failed. Some of it ran down my leg, which was gross.
the other problem I have with this even if it had worked, since my pelvic basically has to be directly above the toilet, that means my pants which are pulled down some are going to be touching/pressing against the toilet bowl outside. Now some public restrooms are icky and I don't want my clothes touching the outside of the toilet, which sometimes has dried urine on it.
I'd rather use a STP device and stand back. that way nothing splashes on me too. and my pants won't touch.
I know I'm a germphob. but I thought I'd post this for anyone else who doesn't like pee on them.
I tried this last night... used the men's room for the first time (!!), and rather than sit I thought I'd give this a go. First time worked like a dream, though I had to keep my chinos down pretty low. Second time I... uh... got a bit messy. My trousers were spared, but it did end up with my leg hugging the toilet bowl in a desperate attempt to salvage the situation.
Think I'll save for an STP :D
Solo, you could try something like this for now. It works surprisingly well.
Kage's ftm stp tutorial for under $5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLiaVVihEn4&feature=related#)
I just tried this and it worked! The peace sign finger method works better for urinals. I couldn't do the peace sign method and use a normal toilet b/c it's hard to aim down. But using no hand and leaning like that works awesome. Just make sure you use some force, and when you're nearing the end, give it a push so it doesn't trickle down your leg or something.
I've only ever tried this in my own house while I wasn't wearing any pants and it was easier than I thought it would be. Maybe I'll try it with pants next time.
Tried this and it ran down my leg. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or something. Is it true that not every guy is able to do stuff like this because of their anatomy?
Quote from: Darrin on July 20, 2011, 03:53:33 PM
Tried this and it ran down my leg. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or something. Is it true that not every guy is able to do stuff like this because of their anatomy?
Happened to me a bit too. I find that if I use the whole 2 finger method that I have better aim. But that's not something I'm comfortable doing every time I piss. Besides, I have to drop my pants to the floor to get this accomplished successfully.
I do think that anatomy plays a part being able to stp (with or without devices). Pre-T I had an easier time of it. Now, my junk kind of..diverts urine off to the side or something. Not sure how to explain it without being graphic. But yeah, anatomy definitely affects my ability to do this. I'm sure the same is true for other guys.
Quote from: Darrin on July 20, 2011, 03:53:33 PM
Tried this and it ran down my leg. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or something. Is it true that not every guy is able to do stuff like this because of their anatomy?
i have reason to believe, without getting graphic, that my urethra is particularly well-positioned for peeing standing up. it may not work for everybody, but i wasn't aware that there was a lot of.. difference of structure.. in biological female genitals.
I just tried it, and yeah it must depend on your anatomy. I'll stick to my stp, but I'm glad it works for some of you guys.
I'm afraid of trying this and making a huge mess.
Does it work with larger husky guys? My thighs are rather big, making it hard to open my legs wide for clearance...
Quote from: Kerberos on July 21, 2011, 11:35:03 AM
I'm afraid of trying this and making a huge mess.
You could always try in the shower.
Thank you for posting this! I tried this and it works! I like this better than the stp's.
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Quote from: SnailPace on July 20, 2011, 03:27:21 PM
I've only ever tried this in my own house while I wasn't wearing any pants and it was easier than I thought it would be. Maybe I'll try it with pants next time.
Same here.
Quote from: Kerberos on July 21, 2011, 11:35:03 AM
I'm afraid of trying this and making a huge mess.
Does it work with larger husky guys? My thighs are rather big, making it hard to open my legs wide for clearance...
I think that was my issue. Thankfully I tried in the shower.
Update on this.
I did it a few more times. Once in the shower and twice in the toilet and it worked. I think it might take a few tries. So, for those guys who it didn't work for. Try it a few more times either in the toilet or shower and it might work.
So I've tried this several times, for reference I'm not really a big guy, but I have kinda big thighs. Sometimes it runs a little tiny bit down my right leg and it's always my right, otherwise it works. I think it all depends on positioning. I also have to pull my pants down significantly but I think with a lot of practice it could be perfected.
Oh Dear.
This guy did not do a whole lot of explaining, and it certainly didn't answer the questions that I generally get on my youtube channel.
Here is what I sent recently to a guy who asked me how I pee without using my hands.
"When you pee with the medicine spoon you must spread open your vaginal lips with your pointer and your middle fingers (thats how I do it). Guide it to where your little dick is at (your clit) and then go at it. I would strongly advise you to try it out in the tub first before you go out and do it in public. The last thing you need is to pee in your pants. Get the feel for it, and you will have it memorized. Once you master it you can then go out in public and pee like a man :D"
Once the medicine spoon is in the right place, and once you remove your fingers your vaginal lips will lock the medicine spoon into place. Then you can pee without the usage of your hands.
Quote from: Matthew J. F on July 28, 2011, 02:45:53 PM
Oh Dear.
This guy did not do a whole lot of explaining, and it certainly didn't answer the questions that I generally get on my youtube channel.
Here is what I sent recently to a guy who asked me how I pee without using my hands.
"When you pee with the medicine spoon you must spread open your vaginal lips with your pointer and your middle fingers (thats how I do it). Guide it to where your little dick is at (your clit) and then go at it. I would strongly advise you to try it out in the tub first before you go out and do it in public. The last thing you need is to pee in your pants. Get the feel for it, and you will have it memorized. Once you master it you can then go out in public and pee like a man :D"
Once the medicine spoon is in the right place, and once you remove your fingers your vaginal lips will lock the medicine spoon into place. Then you can pee without the usage of your hands.
I'm extremely confused. This technique does not require a medicine spoon (that why he e
never mentioned or "explained" it).
Quote from: RyanThomas on July 28, 2011, 04:25:22 PM
I'm extremely confused. This technique does not require a medicine spoon (that why he e
never mentioned or "explained" it).
So what do you use without having to use a STP or without any device? It doesn't make any sense at all. As I said before he didn't really get into further details other than to put your hands on the wall and to position your back a certain way, and then pee. He also mention to use distraction so others wont notice what you are doing. I would've liked to hear more details, like an actual tutorial. If this actually worked then he should've gave us a demonstration, and to show that he did not wet his pants as a result.
I don't know about you but when I pee standing up in the shower when I am cleaning myself, I really have to push it out in order for me to aim my pee straight out. If I relax and not put any pressure then the pee would just slide down.
Maybe this would work if you had bottom surgery, and was on T for some time but again the guy on the video did not say anything about bottom surgery so I am assuming that any bio women can pee standing up without using any device. I find it nearly impossible. I want to see it for my own eyes.
Quote from: Matthew J. F on July 28, 2011, 05:13:33 PM
So what do you use without having to use a STP or without any device? It doesn't make any sense at all. As I said before he didn't really get into further details other than to put your hands on the wall and to position your back a certain way, and then pee. He also mention to use distraction so others wont notice what you are doing. I would've liked to hear more details, like an actual tutorial. If this actually worked then he should've gave us a demonstration, and to show that he did not wet his pants as a result.
I don't know about you but when I pee standing up in the shower when I am cleaning myself, I really have to push it out in order for me to aim my pee straight out. If I relax and not put any pressure then the pee would just slide down.
Maybe this would work if you had bottom surgery, and was on T for some time but again the guy on the video did not say anything about bottom surgery so I am assuming that any bio women can pee standing up without using any device. I find it nearly impossible. I want to see it for my own eyes.
I feel like you are being very confrontational in a post that is supposed to be helpful and instructive. The man explained everything needed to execute this technique. Let me restate, you lower your pants, place a hand on the wall in front of you, lean your hips forward towards the toilet, and pee. There are no devices used besides your own body. It does not require being on hormones or having lower surgery. Generally, this technique works very well in people with female-assigned genitals. I'm sorry that I can't send you a video of myself urinating as I find that to be a pretty private matter, but let me assure you, I do not wet my pants when I do it. It's been established earlier in this thread that this technique may not work for huskier guys or guys with unique genital arrangements. I'm sorry if it doesn't work for you, but I'm more sorry that you're not willing to try and that you seem so hostile towards genuine help.
My ex, a bio-female used to use this technique when camping and when she got curious enough to try in a bathroom and it worked for her. She was a "bigger" girl. Not fat but her thighs weren't entirely thin either so I'm guessing it's an anatomy thing. I live with my family so I find it hard to find time to try this actually in the bathroom because if I make a mess it'd be rather hard to explain why I'm having to clean it up and why it's there in the first place.
Quote from: xAndrewx on July 28, 2011, 06:38:08 PM
My ex, a bio-female used to use this technique when camping and when she got curious enough to try in a bathroom and it worked for her. She was a "bigger" girl. Not fat but her thighs weren't entirely thin either so I'm guessing it's an anatomy thing. I live with my family so I find it hard to find time to try this actually in the bathroom because if I make a mess it'd be rather hard to explain why I'm having to clean it up and why it's there in the first place.
andrew, forgive me if this is a weird suggestion but maybe you could try this with toilet paper or a towel in hand ready to go right after a potential mishap.
Quote from: xAndrewx on July 28, 2011, 06:38:08 PM
My ex, a bio-female used to use this technique when camping and when she got curious enough to try in a bathroom and it worked for her. She was a "bigger" girl. Not fat but her thighs weren't entirely thin either so I'm guessing it's an anatomy thing. I live with my family so I find it hard to find time to try this actually in the bathroom because if I make a mess it'd be rather hard to explain why I'm having to clean it up and why it's there in the first place.
I pee with the door shut so no one sees how I pee or what (if anything) I have to clean up.
As far as bigger guys. I'm bigger and have bigger thighs (and calves, but that doesn't matter) and it works for me. Like Ryan said, there is no device and it is as simple as putting your hand on the wall, spread your feet about shoulder length lean forward and go. Maybe not everyone can do it, but I just wanted to point out that it might just take practice and if you really wanted to do it, just be patient. That's all.
Just wanting clarify that I do go with the door shut. My family is just the type to pick on me for taking too long.
Thanks for the suggestion I'll have to try that :)
Well I just tried this for the third time, and this time was the worst one. It made biggest mess :P
well I'm done trying now. I don't mind. using a STP device works just find for me.
Quote from: JohnAlex on July 28, 2011, 09:06:32 PM
Well I just tried this for the third time, and this time was the worst one. It made biggest mess :P
well I'm done trying now. I don't mind. using a STP device works just find for me.
sorry, man. it works for me and some other people. i'm glad that you're comfortable with and have the option of using an stp though. i generally can't.
Quote from: RyanThomas on July 28, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
I feel like you are being very confrontational in a post that is supposed to be helpful and instructive. The man explained everything needed to execute this technique. Let me restate, you lower your pants, place a hand on the wall in front of you, lean your hips forward towards the toilet, and pee. There are no devices used besides your own body. It does not require being on hormones or having lower surgery. Generally, this technique works very well in people with female-assigned genitals. I'm sorry that I can't send you a video of myself urinating as I find that to be a pretty private matter, but let me assure you, I do not wet my pants when I do it. It's been established earlier in this thread that this technique may not work for huskier guys or guys with unique genital arrangements. I'm sorry if it doesn't work for you, but I'm more sorry that you're not willing to try and that you seem so hostile towards genuine help.
I don't believe that I pursued this in a hostile matter. I just wanted more details that could probably answer to some of my questions. I guess this only works for certain anatomy guys. I'm sure guys with smaller size labia majora can probably achieve this quite well while others with more pronounced labia majora seem to have a difficult time doing this because the flaps are mostly covering the clitoris.. Unfortunately for me it isn't my thighs, it's because my "flaps" are too fat to do this.
Quote from: Matthew J. F on July 29, 2011, 12:18:03 AM
I don't believe that I pursued this in a hostile matter. I just wanted more details that could probably answer to some of my questions. I guess this only works for certain anatomy guys. I'm sure guys with smaller size labia majora can probably achieve this quite well while others with more pronounced labia majora seem to have a difficult time doing this because the flaps are mostly covering the clitoris.. Unfortunately for me it isn't my thighs, it's because my "flaps" are too fat to do this.
I have never met someone in my life that urinates out of their clitoris (except for post-op trans men with urethral lengthening and I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate their post-op genitals being called a clitoris).
ive been using this technique since i was 6 or 7 and decided i want to pee standing up like my younger brother. i stopped around 10, tried taking it up again but couldnt get the hang of it so i use an stp.
Quote from: Darrin on July 20, 2011, 03:53:33 PM
Tried this and it ran down my leg. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or something. Is it true that not every guy is able to do stuff like this because of their anatomy?
Yes, everyone has certain discrepancies in their anatomy so no two people are able to do the exactly the same thing.
Quote from: RyanThomas on July 29, 2011, 12:21:53 AM
I have never met someone in my life that urinates out of their clitoris (except for post-op trans men with urethral lengthening and I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate their post-op genitals being called a clitoris).
I was using the word to describe the vaginal anatomy. And yes you're right people do not pee out of their clitoris. It was a mistake on my part. No I was not directing it to post op trans men either.
I tried it and it seemed to work, though I took my pants right off just in case and I've only tried it once so far. Used the bathroom in the basement that only my dad usually uses so if I missed or splashed they'd think it was him. But I've made bigger messes with an STP, and I've got a bit of a shy bladder so it's hard to even start with an STP in the first place. Will try and practice this one more!
just another hint for doing this with pants. I'm going to try to explain it as best as I can...
if you're wearing men's pants with a fly, you don't have to pull them down very far at all. you have to pull your underwear down further than the pants. in effect, by opening the fly and lowering your jeans only about 3-4 inches, you've created a V like area to pee through (unzip your pants, lower them, and lean forward a bit and you'll get it). so what you can do is push your underwear down out of the way just enough to give "clearance" for the pee to pass over top of the V-like fly area. if youre having a problem with one of the top "flaps" getting in the way of your pee stream, you can quickly tuck it into the waistband of your lowered underwear. the more you practice this, the easier it will be to do in seconds flat. it's actually a lot less complicated than it sounds but it's difficult to describe. really, it can be done as fast as a guy can whip out his dick at the urinal once you get the hang of it. after about a week of practice in situations where I wouldn't be devastated to have an accident, I am confident enough to do this every time I use a public restroom. if your anatomy allows for it, keep practicing and you may never use an stp again.