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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Topic started by: Wild Flower on July 19, 2011, 05:37:41 PM

Title: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: Wild Flower on July 19, 2011, 05:37:41 PM
Well, I want your guys opinions about this. Let's say I pretend that I wanted to be Sailor Moon around the ages of 5-7, this was early childhood to me.

I did a little research, and its describe as the cast were sailor senshi, "Senshi have also been described as merging male and female traits, being both desirable and powerful. Sailor Senshi blend ancient characteristics and symbols of femininity with modern ideas, reminding the audience of a pre-modern time when females were equal to males. powerful, yet childlike". This was a feminist theory.

Back then I remember I drew Sailor Moon, dresses (in private for some reason), and really like the shows. I also remember playing with Barbies but this wasn't as intense as the Sailor Moon episodes I watched. I also remember liking Sailor Jupiter a lot and pretended to be her; this includes high heels, and maybe a wig (can't remember). I can remember watching the episodes too... somewhat vividly.

I also drew pictures of women around the age of 12-15, but not sure that has anything transgendered to it.

Would you say I had a "normal" transsexual childhood?
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: Randi on July 19, 2011, 06:16:15 PM
What is 'normal' anyway? I certainly am not what I would call normal and like it this way. Isn't sailor moon a Japanese animation? If I am correct (please forgive and correct me if I am not) in Japanese culture it was acceptable for samurai to dress as geisha and many did so and were respected for it.

I identify as female but was born male. For the first few years of my life I wore girls clothing because that is what my mother had so to avoid buying other clothing she dressed me that way except when we would go out around other people-then she would dress me in boys clothes. That changed when my father made Mother stop dressing me as a girl.

I always identify with female characters in books or movies-when I close my eyes and think about myself I am female. I can't say that you did or did not have a normal 'transexual' childhood, but I am not normal-never have been-and I'm glad of it.

Randi 8)
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: Wild Flower on July 19, 2011, 06:45:02 PM
Maybe typical is the better word. Since I am not normal at all, or average.

But when I watch Sailor Moon it came from Japan, dubbed into English, and I didn't really see it as "anime" at that age, but just any other cartoon.
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on July 19, 2011, 08:39:01 PM
Sailor Moon's hair looks very fun to have.
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: Sabriel Facrin on July 20, 2011, 09:51:08 PM
You can take her as blending the female and male traits, or you can take her as a creature that takes a powerful presence and masculine-perceived traits, or as a transgender into the female identity you can consider her a way to bridge your initial "masculinity" (for what measures it might be there) into the feminine traits she possesses.
Personally, I barely got to watch sailor moon because the one who 'tricked' (he thought he was tricking me) into watching it made fun of me for being drawn into it, and I wanted to avoid my nature being understood.

I never liked barbies.  I always felt she was too gaudy, and eventually, outright sluttish...but...I can sometimes be very hardline about what's acceptable for a person to do and retain her pride, so I'm not a good measure for it. XD

But...yeah.  I have to say, personally I'm very drawn to watching that...My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic...The only thing that really holds me back is that it seems like it's for little kids.  But I really feel like I can relate to rainbow dash's personality...
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: pretty on July 21, 2011, 12:52:29 AM
I liked rollie pollies a whole bunch when I was 6. They rolled up into a ball and stuff, ahaha it was so funny.
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: xxUltraModLadyxx on July 21, 2011, 01:03:11 AM
there is no such thing as normal. are you unsure of if you are transsexual or not? that's the only reason i would think you would ask something like that. everyone has different experiences through their lives regardless of gender. you really can't determine how much of a transsexual you are just based on the things you enjoy doing. there's alot to it.
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: barbie on July 21, 2011, 05:34:15 AM
Yes. Typical experiences.

My son also likes sailing moon and other Japanese anime.

I clearly recongized my transsexualism by watching a barbie doll that my kids had played with. Even I studied the figure of typical barbie dolls: http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/barbie/proportionate_barbie.html (http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/barbie/proportionate_barbie.html)

I realized that it is virtually impossible for me to have anything like the Barbie's figure (23 inch waist at 183 cm (6 feet) height).

Yes. Image is a critical component in m2f transsexualims whether it is real or symbolic...

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: pebbles on July 21, 2011, 01:57:19 PM
playing with a barbie doll dosen't make you female nor dose watching sailor moon it's a very contrived idea that only girls do those things what makes you a transsexual is gender dysphora how much dose it hurt you to be a male?
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: Ryno on July 21, 2011, 02:08:13 PM
As a kid I loved Polly Pocket, My Little Pony, cute stuffed animals. I hates Barbie and most dolls. I loved horses. But I also loved my brother's toys, his Hotwheels, his action figures, his Jurassic Park toys. I liked playing rough, outside getting dirty and hated playing "make up" or "house" with the other girls.

In the end, I don't think watching certain shows or playing with certain toys means your are transgender or cisgender. The same goes with performing socially accepted "gender appropriate" activities (if you were born male, playing in the mud, playing with cars and G.I Joes, being loud and rambunctious) and later come out as transgender means you did not have a normal "transsexual" childhood, nor does it make you any less a transsexual. Our societies just put way too much effort into dividing activities based on primitive ideas that women cook, clean, and look pretty and sexually desirable, while men worked hard, did labour, and protected the family or community.
Title: Re: Sailor Moon ~ Barbie too
Post by: xxUltraModLadyxx on July 21, 2011, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: pebbles on July 21, 2011, 01:57:19 PM
playing with a barbie doll dosen't make you female nor dose watching sailor moon it's a very contrived idea that only girls do those things what makes you a transsexual is gender dysphora how much dose it hurt you to be a male?

that's the point i'm trying to get across as well. those things i enjoyed doing in my childhood just make sense now that i look back. by no means, is it a testament to whether you are transsexual or not. you have to figure that out on a different level similiar to what you suggested.